Originally by: ForumPosterAlt

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notice how all your posts get modded

train corp management 1 noob

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Originally by: Irob Urore

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i think most of us have these horror stories when fighting in blobs, ccp un-nerf the titans please and re-introduce more anti-blob warfare.

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Originally by: Lucius Ventrue

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Originally by: WT Snacks

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Originally by: Lucius Ventrue

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Edited by: Lucius Ventrue on 21/08/2007 15:29:03

Originally by: Papa Ina

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Then again I guess it's fair enough to repost this if you want to distract from the fact it was leaked onto the forums already. Maybe your pilots will think it was supposed to be posted and won't notice?

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if you look at the time it was posted and the time i posted their nearly exact.

so either I leaked it preemptively in the SOV4 post or the spy in my alliance and I have uncanny timing

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If it were not RISE, I'd believe you. But seeing as RISE is known for obscuring facts and lying to it's members, I'll pass.

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The irony coming from someone in "Anonymous Legionnaires" ?

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Originally by: steamy

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thank you Hippoking for doing a Jacob on the goons

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Originally by: Mistress Suffering

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You can't deploy 7 capitals in the field and call any enemy gang that comes to face it (particularly without their own capitals) a superblob.

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Originally by: Lucius Ventrue

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enter grid in map mode

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Originally by: Kaar

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Originally by: Lucius Ventrue

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enter grid in map mode

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Does this help?

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Originally by: General Tsao

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I'll try to be as neutral about this as I can, it's not a bad writeup. However, the lag was definitely on both sides. I ended up losing my curse because I was activating warp for over a minute after I had strayed within smartbomb range of another carrier.

The lag was bad, but certainly not near as bad as other fleet engagements we've been in and still managed to function. Apart from remote repping the carriers, there was little/ no coordination of the RISE fleet. Their support, lagged or no, warped into range of our fleet as few as 4-5 at a time. The remaining support was over 300km away at the edge of the grid. If they had come in together instead of piecemeal, the fight might have ended very differently.

tl;dr: The lag was manageable. Organization of the opponent seemed incredibly poor.

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Originally by: Gokil

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I was unable to be there, but I do have one question for the participants. There was clearly a lot of lag as there is for many large scale fleet battles, but were there notable desyncs (or any)?

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Originally by: Lucius Ventrue

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There were orders on several occasions where all support were pulled out of fight, leaving carriers to do their thing, meet back at a POS, align, one person would get to the grid load and the group would warp collectively to that gridload in minimap mode.

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Originally by: Mistae

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Instead of questioning whether the lag was bad, very bad, terrible, or un-playable; both sides should be making the point that CCP's dismal failure at fixing this problem is utterly inexcusable.

Players invest 100s of hours into building skills and buying ships to engage in fleet battles. When a major fleet battle occurs the game engine craps out, not just some of the time but all the time. There is a term for software in which a central function is broken, namely beta software.
While winning is certainly preferable to losing. Defeating an opponent who was not handicapped by a failure of the game engine itself, is far more satisfying.
What I do not understand, is why there is not more collective outrage about CCP's refusal to fix a core aspect of the game. I say refuse because ultimately you can solve virtually all software or hardware problems if you are willing to invest the money necessary to hire the programming talent or purchase the equipment.

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Originally by: Mistae

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Instead of questioning whether the lag was bad, very bad, terrible, or un-playable; both sides should be making the point that CCP's dismal failure at fixing this problem is utterly inexcusable.

Players invest 100s of hours into building skills and buying ships to engage in fleet battles. When a major fleet battle occurs the game engine craps out, not just some of the time but all the time. There is a term for software in which a central function is broken, namely beta software.
While winning is certainly preferable to losing. Defeating an opponent who was not handicapped by a failure of the game engine itself, is far more satisfying.
What I do not understand, is why there is not more collective outrage about CCP's refusal to fix a core aspect of the game. I say refuse because ultimately you can solve virtually all software or hardware problems if you are willing to invest the money necessary to hire the programming talent or purchase the equipment.

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