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Teeth
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Posted - 2004.02.07 00:48:00 -
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Why does everyone hate them so much?
I heard they used to have m0o as a part of their alliance, is that why? Or is it because they claim too much of space (not the regular 1 or 2 off limits systems for alliances).
I've also heard claims that they're pirates, but those come mostly from people they're at war with, so that's no horribly impartial.
What's the story?
-T
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.07 01:03:00 -
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Honestly, we are way past the point of caring what ppl think about us. Our enemies like to slander ppl, which is fine, for a child. Our space that is claimed, is claimed for strategic purposes. Honestly, if we didnt there would be a line of CC, GWP, CFS carebears that would be fodder there anyway.
Another reason ppl don't like us is because of our power. Its natural that others are jealous of our success. I could dig up many threads that claim we are beaten, yet we fought off so many ppl that only a fool wouldnt respect our military might. Our PR may be lacking, but who cares? Not us.....
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Diavalos
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Posted - 2004.02.07 01:08:00 -
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Curse?.. what there is a curse alliance? Never heard of them before.. cant be to special if i've never heard of them before.
/emote shrug
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.02.07 01:25:00 -
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Why everyone hates them so much?
Well.. As a new member to CA (about a month now) My answer would be: I don't have a clue.
I remember being "brought up" KNOWING CA were the bad guys. Pirates and all. Some of our members even quit the game when we joined. As it turns out though, I'm having a great time. Great alliance chat allways lots of ppl online. Overall nice attitude between players. Whatever you wanna do. It's there. Wanna mine? join one of the mining ops going on pretty much 24/7 . Wanna pvp? Well take a look at our enemies and tell me if you thnk we lack pvp oppurtunities. 
To sumarise. CA is about as far from the picture I had of it when I was in empire as it posibly could have been. Except for the PvP. THAT'S allways present. Which is great,
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.07 02:26:00 -
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As was stated earlier, we no longer care what ppl think, but as you sound new to game I will say this.
I was a director in my first corp. we where an empire based corp only. we made some incursions into stain and fountain,and did not recieve very warm welcomes. we determined that in order to survive with up comming features in the game we needed to be able to move about freely in 0.0 space. the one place we always knew not to go was Curse. as there where "pirates" there.
Yes m0o was there. but they had changed from a pirate corp to going legit. alot of their original players had left on an extended brake. there was also a couple of other former pirate corps also. Sinster and Red Corsairs. they too went legit. No one wanted to give up and forgive their past transgretions. and so every one declaired war on the Curse Alliance.
When I joined I thought for sure I was getting in over my head. but I found a great bunch of friends and a great alliance. Its not what people think it is and they are jealous of our success and friendship. there is not much more I can say other then we are the best pvp alliance in all of eve. and maybe that is why.
flame away all you Curse haters.
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Teeth
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Posted - 2004.02.07 02:38:00 -
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Not really new, I've been playing for several months. Just can't make heads or tails about what I hear.
Thanks for the replies!
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.07 03:02:00 -
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CA was formed by very welknown pirates. And survived by reqruiting MANY new corps that were ready to fight for those pirates to get access to rare ore/good NPCs (and also to get PvP).
Hence they were naturally "everyones enemy".
And some corps in CA also held some old anger against SA since the early days of the SA.
The situation now is very different. The initial pirate corps that caused the wars are disbanded. But the war rages on, cause during months of fighting against each other...
(and, no Tivian, I don't for a second doubt that you are nice guys having lots of fun together. Cause we have that too.)
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.02.07 03:33:00 -
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Yep, Dalman hit it right on the head.
The original reasons for the war against the CA are mostly gone, yet we just keep right on fighting because that's how it's been for quite a long time, and any attempts at peace talks have been blown out of the water before they even got started.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.07 03:56:00 -
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Peace..... whats that?
I think thats the thinking of most of the CA and SA.
Since being a member of the CA all i've known is mining and fighting, and i've had a good time doing both, on TS and that even mining is a laugh tbh sometimes, Tholarim wouldn't agree tho ¼_¼.
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Finderne
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Posted - 2004.02.07 05:55:00 -
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Obviously, 'everyone' and 'hate' is OTT, but here's some things that Curse ppl have done that annoyed some outsiders:
1) Polaris shows up to scout a system for a potential event and is greeted by rude jerks. Mass petitions from CA follow based on various conspiracy theories.
2) In-game news featured an RP article citing NPC's that criticized CA's minmatar corps. The writer was hoping to spark some IC rebuttals, but was met with petition spam from Curse.
3) CA claims 7 regions. Granted most of it is non-station space at the backside of Curse region, and could never belong to anyone other than CA (barring player structures). But annexing GWP was more about greed and appeasing pvpers in CA rather than a defense strategy.
4) When CA vs Evolution fights didn't go CA's way, they accused Evolution of every exploit imaginable (and you guessed it - mass petitions).
5) They have Reclaimer in their ranks. And still haven't killed him in a friendly fire 'accident'.
6) There's tons of ex-CA pirates that are on good terms with CA ppl. Any force that attacks CA has to worry about rear-guard attacks from pirates. CA on the other hand can move around Eve at will, with little interference and often getting help from those pirates. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with CA's policies there. I think other alliances resent CA's advantages in that department.
7) It gets tiresome hearing CA's telling of how they singlehandedly defeated the rest of Eve.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.07 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 07/02/2004 06:27:38
Who cares what our enemies think of us?
Besides our reputation keeps most people away from us, so it suits me and CA just fine 
Only Stain and fountain and CFS seemed obsessed with our appearance to others.. Opps..look what happened to fountain and CFS 
To be blunt 99% of Eve doesnt care one way or another about Curse, they know enough to avoid our space and thats it. 99% of the CA couldn't care less if people think we are pirates or carebear roid hugging hippies.
Oh yea.. M0o are friends..so we must be ebil!!!! phear us, also notice that CA doesnt do the backstabbing thang that most other alliances do, a la Omega Corp/Stain.
And as for Peace between SA and CA? Blah..would be hell of a boring game if that happened.
Been kinda fun says in curse the last 4 month, despite every major alliance attacking us at one point or another, we are still here, and stronger than before
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.07 06:20:00 -
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Enemy #1 Fountain Alliance
Reason: SINC/RUS/m0o raided fountain fairly often destroying many of their ships, so a good reason to hate Curse once these corps joined CA.
Enemy #2 Evolution
Reason: (See Above)
Enemy #3 Stain Alliance
Reason: Stain was never overly friendly with the Curse region to begin with. When SINC/RUS/m0o came to Curse they got really paranoid and began their "EVERYONE ATTACK CURSE PLZ" campaign.
Also Stain lost a fair number of battleships to RUS/SINC/m0o in previous engagements in FD-MLJ.
Enemy #4 Curse Coalition
Reason: CC saw that the newly formed CA was very outnumbered by SA/FA and decided it would be better to ally SA/FA hoping to take Curse for themselves instead of doing actual fighting. Of course this never worked out for CC and they fell apart.
Did I miss anyone?
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Brom
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Posted - 2004.02.07 07:07:00 -
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Curse arent bad folks. A lot of the hatred stems from the fact curse is one of two small areas that currently have arkonor. That'll change eventually (suppossedly) when the ore distribution rotates though.
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kisula
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Posted - 2004.02.07 08:08:00 -
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Lol isnt hate such a strong word?
Its a game guys and Curse are playing it well,and as Nirvy so rightly says it would be one hell of a boring game without the current war.
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.02.07 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: Lansfear on 07/02/2004 08:54:09
There's only a handful of people I respect in the CA, GoLeM being one of them, the rest have shown to little restraint in local chat.
I don't like CA for the simple fact they tend to blow up anyone that's not CA. Even if you're not in CA space. This is from multiple contacts with ca, not just one or two.
First time i heard or encountered CA was in B-VIP9, they blew my away without a word at a gate.(as most pirates do) Reading the forums and recognizing alot of CA members posts, you'll find alot of consistant behavior I've noticed.
I don't know, they just don't seem all that different from other pirates.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.07 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 07/02/2004 09:34:11
Well, who cares what the entire population, thinks about CA, we are having fun.
This is how far this game has progressed, along the road, we all get a little jaded and cynical.
1on1 most of us are very likeble guys and galls
But hey come to my space and ill shoot you up
But then again, without PvP this game would have been dead along time ago, Not much RP left, and we are all holding our breath and allready waiting for Shiwa patch
Guess we are hooked on this game
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.07 09:37:00 -
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Oracle really don't like it when you interrupt their RP 
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Shamen
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Posted - 2004.02.07 11:08:00 -
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Obviously, 'everyone' and 'hate' is OTT, but here's some things that Curse ppl have done that annoyed some outsiders:
1) Polaris shows up to scout a system for a potential event and is greeted by rude jerks. Mass petitions from CA follow based on various conspiracy theories.
2) In-game news featured an RP article citing NPC's that criticized CA's minmatar corps. The writer was hoping to spark some IC rebuttals, but was met with petition spam from Curse.
3) CA claims 7 regions. Granted most of it is non-station space at the backside of Curse region, and could never belong to anyone other than CA (barring player structures). But annexing GWP was more about greed and appeasing pvpers in CA rather than a defense strategy.
4) When CA vs Evolution fights didn't go CA's way, they accused Evolution of every exploit imaginable (and you guessed it - mass petitions).
5) They have Reclaimer in their ranks. And still haven't killed him in a friendly fire 'accident'.
6) There's tons of ex-CA pirates that are on good terms with CA ppl. Any force that attacks CA has to worry about rear-guard attacks from pirates. CA on the other hand can move around Eve at will, with little interference and often getting help from those pirates. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with CA's policies there. I think other alliances resent CA's advantages in that department.
7) It gets tiresome hearing CA's telling of how they singlehandedly defeated the rest of Eve.
Now Finderne I do find your comments interesting not because they are true or false but the simple fact is "How do you know what the content of other peoples petitions are ?" You are either a employee of CCP,a GM or your indulging in a wild guessing game..If your a gm or work for CCP then that brings into question the ethics of having a player account as well as performing a vital and dare I suggest an impartial role within the game?
As for exploits well I can only recall 1 particular "Extreme use of game mechanics outside CCP's [desired intention of it's use] and that was the cancel warp issue..which was soon corrected following concerns raised by MANY players not just CA members... now I would consider that CA helped CCP and considering the swiftness of the removal of this failure in game mechanics I would go so far as to say that CCP considered it an EXPLOIT
The rest of your post is filled with bitterness,jealousy and envy all of which narrows your perspective and blinds you to the honest truth that you are unable to do anything within the game so you resort to bithin and moanin on the forums. I am sorry that you feel so unhappy that CA has managed to prosper and like all strong alliances expanded its sphere of influence.
If the expansion of CA causes you so much concern then get of your arse and do something about it.
It is funny how CA is seen by outsiders as the aggressors when 90% of all CA military operations take place within curse space..this despite the size of our homelands leaves plenty of other areas for the rest of eve to play in, but yet, enough of you flock to curse to jump on the attack CA band waggon, Hey thats fine by me as many posts from CA and others have said PvP is a vital aspect of EVE and saves us having to root you out ..
As for RP I personally do not care much for the RP aspect but others who play eve do and what better way to really get into your RPing role than to drive a storyline or generate a whole new opportunity for a storyline.. The fact CA is large enough to attempt this is no reason to slam us for it.. anyway I hope that I have not upset too many people and it was not my intention to generate another flamefest.. have fun enjoy eve cos I am
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.02.07 11:22:00 -
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OC has now been on both sides of this war and I'll say that both alliances have some good people in them. I don't find the political BS in CA that we experienced in SA and are much happier now.
As for peace I don't believe there can or should ever be peace between SA and CA. It isn't wealth that makes an alliance strong it's the combat experience and their willingness to fight. In that regard both alliances are benefitting greatly from this ancient blood fued.
Since all of 0.0 in the S.E section of Eve is claimed by SA, CA or Xetic (NAP w/CA), OC will attack anything that does not bear a CA or Xetic tag (barring of course friend corps of CA). If you're not CA or NAP with CA then you're either there to aid the enemy or tresspassing... either way it's KOS.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.02.07 12:26:00 -
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CA are the richest and strongest alliance in the game. I have a lot of friends there and our goals often coincide nicely.
CA are hated for a bunch of PR related reasons, because some of the founder corps smacked down evolution and fountain alliance. Although tbh the corps that created foutain were rather far in player composition from the corps that smashed far larger fountain fleets.
So thats why fountain and evolution had problems with them.
Stain and SA had similar problems and have always feared a large alliance moving in next door and have done their best to destabilize and destroy it to maintain their grip on the area.
So there you go :D
CYA!
Staveh
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.02.07 13:18:00 -
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CA are the richest and strongest alliance in the game.
Ought to be mOo's next target then, since mOo seem only to be interested in proving they can beat everybody...
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.07 14:17:00 -
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yer yesterday we beat some NPC battleships
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.07 14:24:00 -
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yer yesterday we beat some NPC battleships
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Teeth
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Posted - 2004.02.07 15:32:00 -
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Ah, the whole friends with m0o explains a lot of it. The doing the wars out of habit bit seems to make sense too.
Thanks guys.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.07 17:51:00 -
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Oracle really don't like it when you interrupt their RP
No we relly dont like you
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.07 18:45:00 -
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Just what I was hoping for
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2004.02.07 21:44:00 -
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Why does everyone hate them so much?
I heard they used to have m0o as a part of their alliance, is that why? Or is it because they claim too much of space (not the regular 1 or 2 off limits systems for alliances).
I've also heard claims that they're pirates, but those come mostly from people they're at war with, so that's no horribly impartial.
What's the story?
-T
Simple answer, at least from my point of view, is that they are a pirate alliance. They have and still do support pirates.
The reason it seems that "everyone" hates them, is the pirates they chose to ally with, mainly Moo and Sinc, two corps that were well known for sitting in major travel corridors near, high security space and popping people indiscrimantely.
When they allied with these pirates they claimed they were reformed and all should be forgiven, while most people saw this was obviously a lie, and it was just that the pirates at the time had been taking it on the chin and had also figured out they needed a "carebear" (which most of these pirates supposedly despise) foundation to keep their supplies somewhat steady and give them a place to go for respite from enemies.
Thats as simply as it can be stated, the reason alot of them post "We don't care what anyone thinks of us", is because its fairly obvious what they are.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.07 22:24:00 -
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Quote:
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Why does everyone hate them so much?
I heard they used to have m0o as a part of their alliance, is that why? Or is it because they claim too much of space (not the regular 1 or 2 off limits systems for alliances).
I've also heard claims that they're pirates, but those come mostly from people they're at war with, so that's no horribly impartial.
What's the story?
-T
Simple answer, at least from my point of view, is that they are a pirate alliance. They have and still do support pirates.
The reason it seems that "everyone" hates them, is the pirates they chose to ally with, mainly Moo and Sinc, two corps that were well known for sitting in major travel corridors near, high security space and popping people indiscrimantely.
When they allied with these pirates they claimed they were reformed and all should be forgiven, while most people saw this was obviously a lie, and it was just that the pirates at the time had been taking it on the chin and had also figured out they needed a "carebear" (which most of these pirates supposedly despise) foundation to keep their supplies somewhat steady and give them a place to go for respite from enemies.
Thats as simply as it can be stated, the reason alot of them post "We don't care what anyone thinks of us", is because its fairly obvious what they are.
I forgive you for your ignorance. Do you guys recall the supposed "tax" that you ignorant ppl thought was imposed by Sinister? Well, being privy to the inside info, I still chuckle when I think of that. Sinister, paid in FAR more than than they took out. But, that truth would wreck your spin machine. I have never seen a bigger group of liars that troll than the ooze that resides to our south of our border.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.07 22:32:00 -
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But Mr Reclamimer, you're pirates. The reason is: LOL, DUH.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.02.07 22:48:00 -
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I forgive you for your ignorance. Do you guys recall the supposed "tax" that you ignorant ppl thought was imposed by Sinister? Well, being privy to the inside info, I still chuckle when I think of that. Sinister, paid in FAR more than than they took out. But, that truth would wreck your spin machine. I have never seen a bigger group of liars that troll than the ooze that resides to our south of our border.
I know I'm spitting into the wind, but....
Let's assume, for the sake of the argument, that Sinister WERE an evil bunch of pirates even after they joined, that they DID impose a tax, and that you're the liar and not him. What would you have posted? You'd have posted exactly what you just did, except that in that case, it would be false.
If you're not the liar, then you'd still post exactly what you did, and it would be true.
But us lot who aren't directly involved, don't know - and possibly even don't care - which side is telling the truth and which isn't, and there's no way of proving either case. So ... why do you guys (on both sides of the argument) even bother posting?
I ask not to insult, but out of genuine curiosity. Given that all your claims are completely worthless, because unprovable ... what do you all hope to achieve?
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.07 23:40:00 -
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Yes, my point exactly. If ppl make up lies, which I may add is about all SA has going for them (that and their recruitment of cannon fodder) ppl are free to counter them. The best part is reading all the old posts. The still make me laugh.
The best part is that 90% of the time CA is defending their territory. But we are labled pirates. This sounds like 1935 all over again. We are proud of our stars.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.07 23:45:00 -
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Kettle calling the pot black, Reclaimer
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.07 23:48:00 -
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But, I thought I was the Ebil pirate?
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.07 23:54:00 -
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No,
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=58227
thats a ebil pirate
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.07 23:55:00 -
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No,
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=58227
thats a ebil pirate
LOL
He is a nub ebil pirate.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.02.07 23:56:00 -
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Yes, my point exactly. If ppl make up lies, which I may add is about all SA has going for them (that and their recruitment of cannon fodder) ppl are free to counter them.
Contradictory post. If you agree with my point - that all of these posts are just a waste of time - then why are you making them? And yes, you're free to do so .. but what FOR?
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.08 00:00:00 -
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Bleh, go nothing else to while camping DSS. Despite being out numbered they hid. CA did manage to gank five battleships before they got to a safe spot. Only a cruiser or two lost on our end.
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2004.02.08 00:17:00 -
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Yes, my point exactly. If ppl make up lies, which I may add is about all SA has going for them (that and their recruitment of cannon fodder) ppl are free to counter them. The best part is reading all the old posts. The still make me laugh.
The best part is that 90% of the time CA is defending their territory. But we are labled pirates. This sounds like 1935 all over again. We are proud of our stars.
Sorry to the original poster, I guess they are still trying to spin it that they are not allied to pirates, but if you want to find out for yourself mate, just head down to curse and great wildlands and count the self admitted pirate corps (i.e. Moo and such) working side by side with the CA, then make up your own mind.
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.02.08 00:38:00 -
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Yes, my point exactly. If ppl make up lies, which I may add is about all SA has going for them (that and their recruitment of cannon fodder) ppl are free to counter them. The best part is reading all the old posts. The still make me laugh.
The best part is that 90% of the time CA is defending their territory. But we are labled pirates. This sounds like 1935 all over again. We are proud of our stars.
Sorry to the original poster, I guess they are still trying to spin it that they are not allied to pirates, but if you want to find out for yourself mate, just head down to curse and great wildlands and count the self admitted pirate corps (i.e. Moo and such) working side by side with the CA, then make up your own mind.
Funny that you couldn't leave this post without trying to do some PR (or what ever it should be called)...
Why don't you just leave this thread alone and let the guys make up their own mind.
It's not necessary to start a flame war and get every thread locked.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2004.02.08 00:43:00 -
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Where's my flame Kulach?
The original poster asked a question, I answered it, and in the end I told him if he wanted to find out for himself, that he should fly to Curse and Great wildlands and it would be fairly obvious whether CA was allied to pirates.
Or is pointing out the obvious now a flame?
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.02.08 00:53:00 -
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What pirate corps are currently in ca fatman? None i'm aware of.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.02.08 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 08/02/2004 01:02:27
m0o are far from pirates, we destroy alliances and are completely unopposed in the eve universe.
We kill for sport and really couldn't care about the loot...
PvPers? Definitely...
Griefers? Maybe...
Pirates? Hell no...
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2004.02.08 01:03:00 -
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What pirate corps are currently in ca fatman? None i'm aware of.
In the alliance itself, as in official members? none that I know of.
Working with the CA in the curse, great wildlands? mainly Moo are what I have been seeing, but their have been a couple of others.
Last night they were hanging by Vol-mi I think there was a mining op going on
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.02.08 01:08:00 -
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Where's my flame Kulach?
The original poster asked a question, I answered it, and in the end I told him if he wanted to find out for himself, that he should fly to Curse and Great wildlands and it would be fairly obvious whether CA was allied to pirates.
Or is pointing out the obvious now a flame?
I did not say, but PR Fatman.
And to reply on your second statement that he should fly down to Curse is not a good idea as he would be shot on site if he did not have a NAP with CA first, as also he would be if he flew to down to Stain.
My reason for replying so harshly to your statement was when reading it I get the impression that you are trying to direct the thread towards us being pirates and therefore I said ôIt's not necessary to start a flame war and get every thread lockedö.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.02.08 01:22:00 -
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What pirate corps are currently in ca fatman? None i'm aware of.
In the alliance itself, as in official members? none that I know of.
Working with the CA in the curse, great wildlands? mainly Moo are what I have been seeing, but their have been a couple of others.
Last night they were hanging by Vol-mi I think there was a mining op going on
Interesting question. What is a pirate these days?
A lot of people consider Evolution as pirates and they are affiliated with SA so it is surely a thin line you are drawing.
I think the pirate issue should be dropped totally as it is not really relevant as it is a personal opinion.
(I hope this can be kept civil even if I mentioned Evolution in this thread)
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.08 01:56:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Ergaster on 08/02/2004 01:58:11
Evol isn't affiliated with SA.
Usually threads can stay civil as long as people don't lie.
I am however very attracted to hypocrits like Reclaimer, crying about people making stuff up @ the CA.
Just the other day one of Reclaimers newbies sent me this mail when I downed his Dominix with in my blackbird:
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2004.02.02 07:11:00
thanks for ctding me****, there iis a petition with your name on it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.02.08 02:33:00 -
[47]
Quote:
Edited by: Homo Ergaster on 08/02/2004 01:58:11
Evol isn't affiliated with SA.
Usually threads can stay civil as long as people don't lie.
I am however very attracted to hypocrits like Reclaimer, crying about people making stuff up @ the CA.
Just the other day one of Reclaimers newbies sent me this mail when I downed his Dominix with in my blackbird:
Quote:
2004.02.02 07:11:00
thanks for ctding me****, there iis a petition with your name on it
Sucks when people infer your cheat and exploit, imo.
Well HOMO, I was mearly pointing you were fighting side by side so to say with SA.
(I was however wondering how long time after saying "evolution" it would take before you entered the thread
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.08 03:09:00 -
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jus2awesome and mkultra
quite well known pirates in Amamake are in Knights of the Minmatar Republic since the end of January
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 03:53:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Skillz on 08/02/2004 03:54:04
EVOL had a scum deal with the now defunct Everlastin Vendetta. All their plans failed. You do know that I have infiltrated both EV and EVOL.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.08 04:03:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 08/02/2004 04:23:02
yes, you say it every other post
yet your a benign cancer, we've learned to live with you since you dont do anything of notice
defunct? funny, I dont feel like Im the member of a dead or dying corp
guess ill live the part
Brains...BRAINS!!!..Grrr..brains
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.08 04:09:00 -
[51]
Quote:
Edited by: Skillz on 08/02/2004 03:54:04
EVOL had a scum deal with the now defunct Everlastin Vendetta. All their plans failed. You do know that I have infiltrated both EV and EVOL.
Off topic...
Skillz, are there any corp that you have NOT infiltrated?
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 04:21:00 -
[52]
Yes Dalman, there are no corporations of any significance that I or my irl brothers have not infiltrated.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.08 04:49:00 -
[53]
Skillz is m0o of any significance?
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 04:59:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Skillz on 08/02/2004 05:02:19
No. m0o are exellent PvP:ers but lack infrastructure. It has wealthy members but as tech level 2 are introduced, a new strategy is needed. Those idiotic allies of yours don't realize that however...
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.08 05:57:00 -
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Ok Homo, we all know Evol has a rep of a honest corp. Only you and your bootlickers (for the time) believe that. Is your other account banned? I dont see you post with your typical ugly mug.
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Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.08 06:00:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Ergaster on 08/02/2004 06:01:37
skillz, you're mother's dentist's dog's vet couldn't get into Evol. We would still smell your stench. |
Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.08 06:34:00 -
[57]
Hope this post deters even more people from visiting Curse..
Bad boys reputation rocks
Im really suprised that anyone still gives a toss that we once had ex pirate corps in CA, or that m0o are friends..but hey...whatever turns ya on
Mercenary | The Azath |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.08 08:36:00 -
[58]
I fight Curse because there's no way the war will ever end.
Plus, they annoy me with that safespot crap when they, aswell as I, know it's complete lies.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.08 08:43:00 -
[59]
Quote:
I fight Curse because there's no way the war will ever end.
Plus, they annoy me with that safespot crap when they, aswell as I, know it's complete lies.
Fighting curse from pator are you josh?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.08 08:50:00 -
[60]
Quote:
Quote:
I fight Curse because there's no way the war will ever end.
Plus, they annoy me with that safespot crap when they, aswell as I, know it's complete lies.
Fighting curse from pator are you josh?
Don't tell me you're that stupid, Iluyen?
Stain defense doesn't have to take place in Stain.
Curse offense doesn't have to take place in Curse.
Plenty of CA corps. in Pator lately.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.08 09:18:00 -
[61]
Gotto love how you guys always rationalise cowardice as "tactics".
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ColdFuzion
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Posted - 2004.02.08 11:42:00 -
[62]
Edited by: ColdFuzion on 08/02/2004 11:42:56
Josh We need many there to find your safe spot
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.08 15:18:00 -
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So attacking people in Empire is "Cowardice Tactics" now? then your attack on our miners which cost one of your members a battleship yesterday was the cost of YOUR "cowardice tactics"
please, war is war, you attack people where you can find then
gather resources where its easiest
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.08 15:43:00 -
[64]
no, remember, BOS doesnt trash talk
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.08 16:17:00 -
[65]
Edited by: TIvian on 08/02/2004 16:28:52
For once I have to agree with Josh. I do need to sleep. and being in a station is hardly what I call a safe spot. and at least I still have my ship.
Yep I will warp away when its 4 on 5 or what ever it was.
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.08 16:18:00 -
[66]
Tivian, go to bed already!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.08 16:21:00 -
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Tivain, I never said SA, or EV doesnt
hell i know i trash talk from time to time
but its rare when i do
and whats with the "stfu" dont get mad, the stress is bad for your heart
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.08 16:21:00 -
[68]
Quote:
Tivian, go to bed already!
I see you have already done to sleep in your safe spot again...
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.02.08 16:54:00 -
[69]
Quote:
So attacking people in Empire is "Cowardice Tactics" now? then your attack on our miners which cost one of your members a battleship yesterday was the cost of YOUR "cowardice tactics"
If I'm not misstaken you guys lost a raven in that figth... let me guess it was equiped for mining
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.08 16:54:00 -
[70]
Please keep this thread free from trolling anf flames.
Thank you
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.08 16:57:00 -
[71]
Quote:
Edited by: Stavros on 08/02/2004 01:02:27
m0o are far from pirates, we destroy alliances and are completely unopposed in the eve universe.
We kill for sport and really couldn't care about the loot...
PvPers? Definitely...
Griefers? Maybe...
Pirates? Hell no...
m0o renounce piracy! read all about it!
Reverend Necrona |
Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.08 17:09:00 -
[72]
Quote:
Quote:
So attacking people in Empire is "Cowardice Tactics" now? then your attack on our miners which cost one of your members a battleship yesterday was the cost of YOUR "cowardice tactics"
If I'm not misstaken you guys lost a raven in that figth... let me guess it was equiped for mining
if we did lose a raven then VOTF gave as good as they got
still, by their standards they were using "cowardice tactics"
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The Mizz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 18:54:00 -
[73]
here is the legit truth why people hate curse. 4 months ago or so there were a few small corps making a living in curse space mining the rare ores. All of a sudden sinister comes in and starts killing people on site no questions asked. Then after killing these small corps they ask if they want to be part of the curse alliance. That is why people hate curse so much for what they did and can't stand the corps that are part of an alliance that was founded by pirates.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.08 18:59:00 -
[74]
Quote:
Quote:
Tivian, go to bed already!
I see you have already done to sleep in your safe spot again...
Lightor, get a grip.
It was a private joke with Tivian about a chat we had in Pator when I and 2 other EV almost caught him napping above a gate in his Raven.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 19:01:00 -
[75]
The the other alliances were not founded in the same way? How about Evolution and Xanadu attacking everyone and then ask the same question?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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The Mizz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 19:01:00 -
[76]
Quote:
Edited by: Stavros on 08/02/2004 01:02:27
m0o are far from pirates, we destroy alliances and are completely unopposed in the eve universe.
We kill for sport and really couldn't care about the loot...
PvPers? Definitely...
Griefers? Maybe...
Pirates? Hell no...
Then why not attack Curse? That is my question.
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The Mizz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 19:04:00 -
[77]
to my recollection xanadu and evol r from one alliance plus fountain didnt attack any1 who went into their space at first. if im wrong let me know. who else has done what curse did.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 19:09:00 -
[78]
They said, pay 500k or die. Now that sounds a bit pirate to me.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.08 19:58:00 -
[79]
hmmm m0o members have friends in CA, so why attack your friends when there are like 4 other bull**** alliances that need to be spanked(with a baseball bat, on the head). so funny - all the other alliances are just jealous m0o arent your friends, arent ya :D
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.08 21:23:00 -
[80]
I though it was going to be so funny when FA pundits were talking here in the forums about m0o not being able to keep up with 'real corporations and players'.
Of couse there can only be one end for FA with that kind of talk and that's the end of FA.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.02.08 21:57:00 -
[81]
Quote:
jus2awesome and mkultra
quite well known pirates in Amamake are in Knights of the Minmatar Republic since the end of January
You forgot ot mention that they were pirates who harassed Everlasting Vendetta quite a bit. Why did you leave that out?
I fought those two and killed them before. What I liked about them was the absence of smack talk and how they praised my skill when I killed both of them. They later approached me and said that they were giving up piracy and wanted to join. After a rigorous interview and trial I took them in. Can't say I regret the decision.
It's such a shame you bring this up since ex-pirates are found in many corporations in EvE. I even recall Mass recruiting ex-pirates (psychopath comes to mind, not sure how he spells it)
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.02.08 22:31:00 -
[82]
People will hate them even more after tomorrow, look for that right hand side of the map to light up.
We of course already have our recon pilots inside.
Convert Stations
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.08 23:01:00 -
[83]
Quote:
People will hate them even more after tomorrow, look for that right hand side of the map to light up.
We of course already have our recon pilots inside.
Yep go take a station, lets see how long you'd hold onto it.
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.08 23:03:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 08/02/2004 23:05:49
*double post*
Reverend Necrona |
Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.08 23:12:00 -
[85]
Quote:
You forgot ot mention that they were pirates who harassed Everlasting Vendetta quite a bit. Why did you leave that out?)
cause I really didnt see it as important
and if they were out to continue bothering us, they would have joined BOS or a corp at war with us
and Ill give them this, they seemed to be pirates more for just the fight than anything else, and all the times i ran agent mission through their jumpin Id talk to them (and no not insults and smack) if it wasnt for them tryng to kill me, might have been friends
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.08 23:18:00 -
[86]
Quote:
Quote:
You forgot ot mention that they were pirates who harassed Everlasting Vendetta quite a bit. Why did you leave that out?)
cause I really didnt see it as important
and if they were out to continue bothering us, they would have joined BOS or a corp at war with us
and Ill give them this, they seemed to be pirates more for just the fight than anything else, and all the times i ran agent mission through their jumpin Id talk to them (and no not insults and smack) if it wasnt for them tryng to kill me, might have been friends
Aww how cute, EV getting on with pirates. "Can you feel... The Love Tonight".
Reverend Necrona |
IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.02.08 23:26:00 -
[87]
Personally, I think you can take everything said in this thread with a grain of salt.
PvP types in eve fight eachother for (lets be honest here) very flimsy reasons and then defend those reasons until they are blue in the face because its fun to argue on the forums. Call it a type of role playing, if you like. The thing with PvPers in Eve is that you require some big important reason to fight other players. If it was an FPS or an RTS, nobody is going to message you after you frag them with:
"wtf?!? I was just running around the map minding my own business.. what did you shoot me in the face for?!?"
If you do that in Eve, you're labelled a pirate/griefer because PvP is not a game requirement and not everyone wants to be forced to do it.
So, in a nutshell, Stain fights Curse a lot because they are right next to eachother and both sides like to fight. m0o and EVOL fight everyone all over the place cause they like to fight and they like to move around a lot. FE fights FA because it seemed like a good idea at the time. etc. etc.
Lets face it, the game would be pretty boring if we all tried as hard to get along as we do to continue arguing with eachother.
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2004.02.08 23:37:00 -
[88]
IIIIIIIII you hit the nail on the head :)
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.08 23:53:00 -
[89]
 IIIIIIIII, I totaly asgree. With one exception, the CA doesnt (usually) go looking for the fight. Generally, we prefer to let others waste the travel time. Also, we don't pretent to be holy rollers like some other alliances. We also dont discriminate. We are equal opportunity employers.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.09 01:55:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 09/02/2004 01:55:48
Quote:
here is the legit truth why people hate curse. 4 months ago or so there were a few small corps making a living in curse space mining the rare ores. All of a sudden sinister comes in and starts killing people on site no questions asked. Then after killing these small corps they ask if they want to be part of the curse alliance. That is why people hate curse so much for what they did and can't stand the corps that are part of an alliance that was founded by pirates.
Ok here is the deal, Oracle was there when sinister came and aproched us, we didnt get shoot at, so get your facts straight, before you go on raving like a lunatic.
You see their are 2 kinds of people, thoose who think they know, and thoose who do know, which catagory do you think you fit in
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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GoLeM
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Posted - 2004.02.09 02:29:00 -
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Everyone hates us because they think we are pirates. Our enemies will flame this and say we are pirates. They may even back up their claims with pictures of 1 or 2 CA members pirating.
The truth? CA does not condone it members to pirate. We consider pirating to be killing people that are not on our KOS list outside of our space or Catch. We will kill anything that enters B-VIP9 or HED-GP or beyond. HED-GP is not our space but is considered restricted space because it only leads to Curse and Stain.
The Curse Alliance contains several former pirates. There have even been some cases where our members were pirating. These have resulted in warnings and even being kicked from the CA. We will probably bring more ex-pirates into our alliance in the future. We have no problem with this as long as they abide by our rules. If this causes others to come attack us, great because we love PvP. If our enemies want to call the whole CA pirates because of this, who cares.
If the CA were pirates, the whole galaxy would know it without a doubt. We are only pirates if you consider claiming and defending territory an act of piracy.
m0o are our friends and former allies. Yes we are friends with pirates. We help them and they help us. Others that call us pirates have or have had relationships with pirates. We openly admit our relationship. We don't claim to be "the good guys". We like PvP and that's all that matters to us.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.09 02:51:00 -
[92]
Quote:
Everyone hates us because they think we are pirates. Our enemies will flame this and say we are pirates. They may even back up their claims with pictures of 1 or 2 CA members pirating.
The truth? CA does not condone it members to pirate. We consider pirating to be killing people that are not on our KOS list outside of our space or Catch. We will kill anything that enters B-VIP9 or HED-GP or beyond. HED-GP is not our space but is considered restricted space because it only leads to Curse and Stain.
The Curse Alliance contains several former pirates. There have even been some cases where our members were pirating. These have resulted in warnings and even being kicked from the CA. We will probably bring more ex-pirates into our alliance in the future. We have no problem with this as long as they abide by our rules. If this causes others to come attack us, great because we love PvP. If our enemies want to call the whole CA pirates because of this, who cares.
If the CA were pirates, the whole galaxy would know it without a doubt. We are only pirates if you consider claiming and defending territory an act of piracy.
m0o are our friends and former allies. Yes we are friends with pirates. We help them and they help us. Others that call us pirates have or have had relationships with pirates. We openly admit our relationship. We don't claim to be "the good guys". We like PvP and that's all that matters to us.
Pretty much bob on.
Reverend Necrona |
Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.09 03:11:00 -
[93]
Quote:
Everyone hates us because they think we are pirates. Our enemies will flame this and say we are pirates. They may even back up their claims with pictures of 1 or 2 CA members pirating.
The truth? CA does not condone it members to pirate. We consider pirating to be killing people that are not on our KOS list outside of our space or Catch. We will kill anything that enters B-VIP9 or HED-GP or beyond. HED-GP is not our space but is considered restricted space because it only leads to Curse and Stain.
The Curse Alliance contains several former pirates. There have even been some cases where our members were pirating. These have resulted in warnings and even being kicked from the CA. We will probably bring more ex-pirates into our alliance in the future. We have no problem with this as long as they abide by our rules. If this causes others to come attack us, great because we love PvP. If our enemies want to call the whole CA pirates because of this, who cares.
If the CA were pirates, the whole galaxy would know it without a doubt. We are only pirates if you consider claiming and defending territory an act of piracy.
m0o are our friends and former allies. Yes we are friends with pirates. We help them and they help us. Others that call us pirates have or have had relationships with pirates. We openly admit our relationship. We don't claim to be "the good guys". We like PvP and that's all that matters to us.
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Zelota
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Posted - 2004.02.09 03:14:00 -
[94]
Quote:
Yep, Dalman hit it right on the head.
The original reasons for the war against the CA are mostly gone, yet we just keep right on fighting because that's how it's been for quite a long time, and any attempts at peace talks have been blown out of the water before they even got started.
Oh your right.....well in the sens that the tides turned agenst you and we are atacking you now.Wen you were atacking uss you had no resons ether we cryed for mercy but you just ignored that....Welcome to the world of being small and help less!!!
Vid of the week |
Sequin
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Posted - 2004.02.09 03:45:00 -
[95]
@skillz
I can pretty much guarante you have not infiltrated us:)
^A Raem Civre Original
EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original.
[i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything
Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
b]
We are evil exploiters! |
The Mizz
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Posted - 2004.02.09 03:50:00 -
[96]
Quote:
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 09/02/2004 01:55:48
Quote:
here is the legit truth why people hate curse. 4 months ago or so there were a few small corps making a living in curse space mining the rare ores. All of a sudden sinister comes in and starts killing people on site no questions asked. Then after killing these small corps they ask if they want to be part of the curse alliance. That is why people hate curse so much for what they did and can't stand the corps that are part of an alliance that was founded by pirates.
Ok here is the deal, Oracle was there when sinister came and aproched us, we didnt get shoot at, so get your facts straight, before you go on raving like a lunatic.
You see their are 2 kinds of people, thoose who think they know, and thoose who do know, which catagory do you think you fit in
not true greyskull was there as well.
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CubePusher
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Posted - 2004.02.09 03:58:00 -
[97]
Quote:
@skillz
I can pretty much guarante you have not infiltrated us:)
seconds that
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.02.09 04:01:00 -
[98]
OMFG CUBE IS THE MOLEH! GET HIM!
^A Raem Civre Original
EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original.
[i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything
Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
b]
We are evil exploiters! |
Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.09 07:51:00 -
[99]
not true greyskull was there as well.
No one got shoot at, but hey live in fairytale land
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.02.09 09:57:00 -
[100]
Coz we are so damn Handsome and Uber ......and not at all arrogant
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Durandal
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Posted - 2004.02.09 10:23:00 -
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From my own experience I think the reason people dislike CA so much is because of the somewhat mixed messages that come out of there, and their earlier actions which could very well be interpreted as pirating.
GoLeM said: Quote:
The truth? CA does not condone it members to pirate. We consider pirating to be killing people that are not on our KOS list
which I happen to believe. However I sometimes have to wonder whether or not certain members of the CA actually listen to this. When people like Duke Droklar come out and say things like: Quote:
If you're not CA or NAP with CA then you're either there to aid the enemy or tresspassing... either way it's KOS
it kind of contradicts what GoLeM is saying (unless of course anyone who is not in CA is actually KOS, in which case thats a big list ). I understand that CA want to defend their territory however it is the manner in which you defend it that has probably annoyed people.
Before joining SA, Second Wave had ships in Curse, Fountain and Stain from time to time. When those regions wars escalated we were asked to leave by Stain and Fountain, and we did so. However Curse decided to try and shoot us without warning. Even after I lost an Armageddon and had a chat with a couple of CA leaders who assured me SWI would be left alone, attacks continued on our battleships and cruisers in the region (thankfully without loss).
It is (or was) the shoot first ask questions later attitude that continued the pirate theme from what I can tell....and the fact that even after destroying my ship, apologising, admitting it was a mistake you wouldn't give me my mods back .
Now I don't claim that people have not been shot without warning in both SA and FA aswell, however it is the apparent consistency with which it happens in Curse that cause the grumbles.
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!"
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GoLeM
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:10:00 -
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Ahh yes, our territory was quite bumpy at the start. We then agreed to give warning to all who had not been warned before. This didn't work too well and we eventually came to where we are today. Now we can kill all in our space without giving warning. This is very necessary because of all the wars going on.
I'm sorry to hear of your previous loss and that they admitted fault but wouldn't return the mods. I don't agree with that.
Duke said "trespassing" so I imagine he means people in our space. That is true, all in our space are considered KOS.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:12:00 -
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I'd like to see the names of pilots kicked out of CA for engaging in piracy.
Just to back up your claims, Golem.
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: XeQtR on 09/02/2004 11:15:54
I have an explanation about the contradicing messages emerging from CA.
This might come as news to a lot of you but we are many people in CA. And strangelly enough we don't all think exactly alike
Many in CA are obviously friends with m0o and c0w members etc. Some of us (I.E me)don't know them well enough to call them friends. I've even been killed by m0o back in june. Unlike many people here however I don't consider the act of attacking me in a game equals the attacker being the antichrist and I have nothing against m0o or any other so called "pirate" corp, so I can STILL be in the CA without feeling I'm condemning my immortal soul to an eternity of above average warmth.
In short: We're just a couple of hundred individual players who happend to end up in CA and many of us enjoys it. If you don't like it, Come attack us. The pirate angle is getting PRETTY old now though
Oh and Josh: relax. it's a GAME.
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GoLeM
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: GoLeM on 09/02/2004 11:27:01
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I'd like to see the names of pilots kicked out of CA for engaging in piracy.
Just to back up your claims, Golem.
PsXDnS for starters. I think another at the same time. He was kicked for killing the President of CFS during a cease fire. This created a little bit of a stir and a few people went with him. They formed a corp and shortly thereafter PsXDnS and another were banned from the game for a reason I don't remember.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:25:00 -
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Oh and Josh: relax. it's a GAME.
Tell that to The Reclaimer.
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Durandal
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Durandal on 09/02/2004 11:31:29
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I have an explanation about the contradicing messages emerging from CA.
This might come as news to a lot of you but we are many people in CA. And strangelly enough we don't all think exactly alike
......In short: We're just a couple of hundred individual players who happend to end up in CA and many of us enjoys it. If you don't like it, Come attack us. The pirate angle is getting PRETTY old now though
I understand how contradicting messages can come from large alliances and I wasn't really commenting on the cause of them as such, I was just answering the original post as to why people tend not to like CA.
Obviously you don't all think alike, however it would normally be expected, from a neutral stand point, to have one official message representing the views of an alliance on a particular topic. You should not be surprised when people get annoyed and a pirate theme continues when the leaders of CA take an anti-pirate stance while many of the "free-thinking" members take part in pirate activities....it can be very confusing to those trying to work out where they stand (please note I am not trying to label the whole of CA as pirates, or indeed as a pirate alliance).
Curses public image problem (and I know you don't care blah, blah...but its the point of the whole thread) has been caused by poor communication to those outside of their alliance, and communication/control over the actions of those within it. I don't mean that the alliance doesn't work, or that they are unorganised (which they are obviously not), but if you want a reason for the "hate" then there it is.
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!"
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GoLeM
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:39:00 -
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My opinion is that our alliance is not anti-pirate. We just don't allow it by our members. If we have an official stance on whether we are anti-pirate, I have not heard of it. It would be quite strange to be anti-pirate and yet allow people into our alliance that have just quit pirating.
Oh btw, we don't add all that trespass our space onto the KOS list. They are KOS when they are in our space. Only people that show aggression are added to the KOS list. I imagine the same is true for all alliances.
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Durandal
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:41:00 -
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My opinion is that our alliance is not anti-pirate. We just don't allow it by our members.
Thats what I meant by being anti-pirate i.e. not allowing members to take part in pirating .
I didn't mean you actively hunt down pirate corps....hope the post makes more sense now.
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!"
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:42:00 -
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Josh u get a medal for being wrong alot. be proud.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:43:00 -
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Josh u get a medal for being wrong alot. be proud.
I'm not wrong.
I'm just temporarily not right.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.09 11:46:00 -
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11:42:00
11:43:00
----OMFG----
btw good comeback...
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.02.09 12:00:00 -
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I love how EV is always harping on the ex pirate thing its such bs.
A few weeks ago i was checking out my personal standings with people and tweaking the ones who where no longer enemies and i came across Sparhawk he was the ceo of a corp we fought very early in release so i look up his employment just cause i was curious if he had quit or not low and behold some time after Xtinction collapsed he joined red corsairs and is currently a member of EV makes me wonder how many other ex pirates does the sa have and use in there war against the ca "pirates" hell i can think of another one off the top off my head Atari of solar wind ex mOo. Well now since stain has consorted with ex pirates by stains own standards they too are "pirates". I bet there mothers are so proud.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.09 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 09/02/2004 12:14:49
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I love how EV is always harping on the ex pirate thing its such bs.
A few weeks ago i was checking out my personal standings with people and tweaking the ones who where no longer enemies and i came across Sparhawk he was the ceo of a corp we fought very early in release so i look up his employment just cause i was curious if he had quit or not low and behold some time after Xtinction collapsed he joined red corsairs and is currently a member of EV makes me wonder how many other ex pirates does the sa have and use in there war against the ca "pirates" hell i can think of another one off the top off my head Atari of solar wind ex mOo. Well now since stain has consorted with ex pirates by stains own standards they too are "pirates". I bet there mothers are so proud.
You may wish to check Sparhawk's security rating.
We do not employ anyone with a really bad negative security rating or anyone we feel has been an active pirate/pk'er recently.
I personally couldn't give a $hit about CA being pirates or not being pirates. Telling them they are pirates acheives the same reaction from them as they get from us when they accuse us of being cowards/safespotters
Check my security rating - does that make me a pirate?
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.09 12:14:00 -
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I'd like to see the names of pilots kicked out of CA for engaging in piracy.
Just to back up your claims, Golem.
PsX, AngelusIce and some of their buddies were kicked.
Cyrus left because he wanted to pirate CFS space and was told not to.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.09 12:17:00 -
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I'd like to see the names of pilots kicked out of CA for engaging in piracy.
Just to back up your claims, Golem.
PsX, AngelusIce and some of their buddies were kicked.
Cyrus left because he wanted to pirate CFS space and was told not to.
Yup, Golem already told me.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.09 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Iluyen on 09/02/2004 12:24:18
[I personally couldn't give a $hit about CA being pirates or not being pirates. Telling them they are pirates acheives the same reaction from them as they get from us when they accuse us of being cowards/safespotters
You mean "damn they're on to us"?
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.09 12:32:00 -
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There are no pirates in Curse!....NEVER! I dont want you to be afraid my friend. I am not afraid and neither should you be!
We of the Curse Alliance do not condone piracy in any way shape or form.
Ahh screw it. no one believes us any way!
So do you have any questions about what we have discussed today? great thanks I was happy to answer your questions. and as a Curse Alliance victom I do value your time as a customer, so let me thank you for your business today.
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Durandal
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Posted - 2004.02.09 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Durandal on 09/02/2004 12:44:37
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I personally couldn't give a $hit about CA being pirates or not being pirates
Neither could I really. Either way we are at war with them, so it makes no difference. And the only reason it was brought up in this thread is because Teeth asked:
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Why does everyone hate them so much?
and it is a bit difficult to explain that without mentioning the fact that some people believe they are or were pirates. The hate stems from perception rather than fact....even if the facts are that Curse is pirate free!
So there is no need for the:
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There are no pirates in Curse!....NEVER!
since that is not what we are saying here . We can save that eternally entertaining topic for another thread
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!"
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