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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.08.26 06:48:00 -
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I dont like the change simply because a fleeing gang cant drop bubbles behind them anymore...
even though everyone had instas, we never saw battleship gangs of 30+ keeping pace with small hac gangs...
I guess we'll just have to keep nanoing.
Also this will do SFA about stabbed ravens, the stabs arent the problem at all, local is, and showing standings in local doesnt help much either. You cant even catch them in an inty unless they get distracted or lazy (hard for a macro to get lazy).
The only positive of this change is that if screws over super capitals (they need it.)
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althan gnartians
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Posted - 2007.08.26 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: umop 3pisdn I dont like the change simply because a fleeing gang cant drop bubbles behind them anymore...
even though everyone had instas, we never saw battleship gangs of 30+ keeping pace with small hac gangs...
Dictors are fast ships and arent slow at warp dropping bubbles behind just got a bit less easy, it¦s still a viable tactic, you just need to leave the dictor out of the gang warp they can easily mwd out of their bubble and catch up on outgoing gate.
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Zalathar
Minmatar Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.08.26 07:58:00 -
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WOOHOO! lets all bask in the sweet fuzzy odour of another supercaptial nerf! 
~~~~~~ *mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!"* ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty  I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh |

Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.08.26 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: althan gnartians Dictors are fast ships and arent slow at warp dropping bubbles behind just got a bit less easy, it¦s still a viable tactic, you just need to leave the dictor out of the gang warp they can easily mwd out of their bubble and catch up on outgoing gate.
Exactly. Now this maneuver takes skill.
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Hellspawn01 What about emergency warps? Will this change stop loggers too?
Bubbles were changed so that they stop emergency warps from logging out back in the spring, so yes.
Unless the emergancy warp was initiated before the bubble was dropped. i.e. a roaming ganksquad spot a raven who has left local as soon as someone has entered, but their dictor manages to dictor him before his ship warps off. Will it prevent his warp?
I wonder.
I tried to get people to test with me on sisi but everyone was more interested in testing their nanoishtar setups and unbreakable drakes. 
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.08.26 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: althan gnartians
Originally by: umop 3pisdn I dont like the change simply because a fleeing gang cant drop bubbles behind them anymore...
even though everyone had instas, we never saw battleship gangs of 30+ keeping pace with small hac gangs...
Dictors are fast ships and arent slow at warp dropping bubbles behind just got a bit less easy, it¦s still a viable tactic, you just need to leave the dictor out of the gang warp they can easily mwd out of their bubble and catch up on outgoing gate.
I didnt think that ppl dropped bubbles on the gate they jumped through to slow followers anymore most ppl jump the dictor to the outgate at 30 or 40km and drop the bubble there and mwd to the gate and jump. It will now take a bit better timing as you do not want to catch any of your buddies but its still better than dropping in on the out gate.
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Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.08.26 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: marakor I didnt think that ppl dropped bubbles on the gate they jumped through to slow followers anymore most ppl jump the dictor to the outgate at 30 or 40km and drop the bubble there and mwd to the gate and jump. It will now take a bit better timing as you do not want to catch any of your buddies but its still better than dropping in on the out gate.
Well, bubbling the out gate is the effective way to slow down another gang on your tail, but it takes time which you may not have (they might be on the other side of the gate already so they could jump in and enter warp before the dictor drops out of warp on the out gate) and it also gives away your heading (scouts split up to find you, they don't even need to jump into the next system they will just assume the one a dictor sphere is 40km off)
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.26 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zalathar Edited by: Zalathar on 26/08/2007 08:11:34 WOOHOO! lets all bask in the sweet fuzzy odour of another supercaptial nerf!  And i know you can now move through wrecks/cans/biomass, but if the warp can be killed at any point, the capital is still dead.
and we need more super capital nerfage.
I 've been seeign for 3 days titans warp in with DD damage detonate the verys isntant it arrives and already in warp 2 secodns later. Not very good for game that. Man I could not even lock him witha 2 sensor boosted battleship before he warps.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Zalathar
Minmatar Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Zalathar Edited by: Zalathar on 26/08/2007 08:11:34 WOOHOO! lets all bask in the sweet fuzzy odour of another supercaptial nerf!  And i know you can now move through wrecks/cans/biomass, but if the warp can be killed at any point, the capital is still dead.
and we need more super capital nerfage.
I 've been seeign for 3 days titans warp in with DD damage detonate the verys isntant it arrives and already in warp 2 secodns later. Not very good for game that. Man I could not even lock him witha 2 sensor boosted battleship before he warps.
ATM it is pretty comonly agreed that titans are no loger cost effective, and that motherships have been dieing like flies since the big super-cap nerf in rev II. This is just another kick in the nuts to those who can afford to build supercaps... IF it costs 80 billion, IT SHOULD BE POWERFULL! ~~~~~~ *mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!"* ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty  I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh |

Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
and we need more super capital nerfage.
I 've been seeign for 3 days titans warp in with DD damage detonate the verys isntant it arrives and already in warp 2 secodns later. Not very good for game that. Man I could not even lock him witha 2 sensor boosted battleship before he warps.
Yet this patch wont stop the invincible MC titan (at least one of the "how many titans" knows how to use it). It will screw over the motherships on the frontline though. Not sure if they needed more nerfing though.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zalathar
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Zalathar Edited by: Zalathar on 26/08/2007 08:11:34 WOOHOO! lets all bask in the sweet fuzzy odour of another supercaptial nerf!  And i know you can now move through wrecks/cans/biomass, but if the warp can be killed at any point, the capital is still dead.
and we need more super capital nerfage.
I 've been seeign for 3 days titans warp in with DD damage detonate the verys isntant it arrives and already in warp 2 secodns later. Not very good for game that. Man I could not even lock him witha 2 sensor boosted battleship before he warps.
ATM it is pretty comonly agreed that titans are no loger cost effective, and that motherships have been dieing like flies since the big super-cap nerf in rev II. This is just another kick in the nuts to those who can afford to build supercaps... IF it costs 80 billion, IT SHOULD BE POWERFULL!
pretty much agreed? How many of this agreeing peoples have been on the recievign side of a doomsday on last 1 month? Have you..?
Let me see about 7 time on last 3 days... more than 200 titans kills, it warps out in 1 second, as impossible to kill as before.
yeahh very cost innefective... pfff
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zalathar ATM it is pretty comonly agreed that titans are no loger cost effective, and that motherships have been dieing like flies since the big super-cap nerf in rev II. This is just another kick in the nuts to those who can afford to build supercaps... IF it costs 80 billion, IT SHOULD BE POWERFULL!
Powerful, not invincible. If it tries to run into a large fleet on its own, it should go poof no matter how much it costs.
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Azirapheal
Amarr Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:36:00 -
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anyone else notice how it said probe... not bubble?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
Originally by: Cyan Nuevo I (seriously) doubt you've seen a 6-WCS Raven.
/me giggles
lock, go to bed, when you wake up you got a target! ------
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