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Kira Pasisson 7th Regimental Combat Team Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.08.30 22:21:00 - [361] thx a lot ccp...we are loosing a well defended system to your midfight node-reset...this could have happened before battle....but no....now i hear all our pilots cant see and do anything...others like me cant relog and we are loosing lots of ships....i hope you have the billions of isk ready to reimburse what your incompetence has created sry for rude language but it just sucks
Red Mouse REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.30 22:54:00 - [362] Originally by: Kira Pasisson thx a lot ccp...we are loosing a well defended system to your midfight node-reset...this could have happened before battle....but no....now i hear all our pilots cant see and do anything...others like me cant relog and we are loosing lots of ships....i hope you have the billions of isk ready to reimburse what your incompetence has created sry for rude language but it just sucks Stop whining
Hothnogg Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.30 23:36:00 - [363] was a lag tastic fight, we have killed alot , those dreads of your went down fighting, btw i dont see them on your killboard
Ilmonstre The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.30 23:39:00 - [364] yay gpt in after almost 3 hours so I'll be back later boys shoot y'all another time
Dagam GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.30 23:48:00 - [365] Originally by: Space Harrier Originally by: kill0rbunny At least they know how to produce lag. Thanx CCP for another day of lagbattle. No problem with reds i can see, but if I'm back in station before the grid is loaded, that is a bit of a problem. Oho! sounds like there was just a fleet battle... and somebody lost? /me gets popcorn in anticipation of much whinging at ccp. Irony ITT.
dabbi75 Caldari Quam Singulari M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.30 23:49:00 - [366] Edited by: dabbi75 on 30/08/2007 23:50:05 Originally by: Hothnogg was a lag tastic fight, we have killed alot , those dreads of your went down fighting, btw i dont see them on your killboard Well the reason you don't see them on the killboard is ?? THEY ARE ALL F*ING LAGGED OUT YOU CHEAKY C*
ardik TunkbwahCorp	Posted - 2007.08.30 23:50:00 - [367] Originally by: Armois Delgato Sounds to me like 'Boom. Nodeshot.' Lame? Yeah. "CCP IS SCREWING US AGAIN?" Sure. ******** to park caps on the gates? Yeah, but par the course. Most cap pilots seem to be idiots. Oh well. Don't blame this on the cap pilots, if it wasn't for the server it would have been fine.
Hothnogg Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.30 23:56:00 - [368] Originally by: dabbi75 Edited by: dabbi75 on 30/08/2007 23:50:05 Originally by: Hothnogg was a lag tastic fight, we have killed alot , those dreads of your went down fighting, btw i dont see them on your killboard Well the reason you don't see them on the killboard is ?? THEY ARE ALL F*ING LAGGED OUT YOU CHEAKY C* chill man have a break was only mentioning
Hothnogg Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.30 23:58:00 - [369] Edited by: Hothnogg on 30/08/2007 23:58:13
Armois Delgato FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:00:00 - [370] Originally by: ardik Don't blame this on the cap pilots, if it wasn't for the server it would have been fine. Tell that to some good friends of ours (notably, quite a few of our own corporations and current allies) at JV1V. What isn't reimbursed (they wont reimburse us here) counts as lost. "If it wasn't for the server" fails to take into account a major (unfortunate) aspect of EVE POS warfare- to not account for the server is akin to saying "if it wasn't for the machinegun" about WWI battles. The server is a fact of life in EVE. To not account for this is tactical error and blame should be placed directly on those that directed caps to a gate (or for individual pilots for risking such a vital alliance asset to lag). If razor and co. were to place caps on a gate and nodeshot occurred I guarantee they would see the tactical mistake of deploying caps on the gate at that particular moment in time.
ardik TunkbwahCorp	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:10:00 - [371] Originally by: Armois Delgato Originally by: ardik Don't blame this on the cap pilots, if it wasn't for the server it would have been fine. If razor and co. were to place caps on a gate and nodeshot occurred I guarantee they would see the tactical mistake of deploying caps on the gate at that particular moment in time. No mistake was made here. A phoenix can kill a battleship in one shot why wouldnt you have such a war machine on gatecamp? And a thanatos can kill battleships in seconds while repping its buddies so they cant die. It's a good tactic, stop trying to disrespect your allies buddy.
Armois Delgato FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:19:00 - [372] Edited by: Armois Delgato on 31/08/2007 00:21:53 I like my allies I have just noticed that we have some rather **** luck when it comes to nodes. Someone in charge of server balance really doesnt like LV/ex-LV. You're a goon anyways ardik go away.
ardik TunkbwahCorp	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:23:00 - [373] Originally by: Armois Delgato Edited by: Armois Delgato on 31/08/2007 00:21:53 I like my allies I have just noticed that we have some rather **** luck when it comes to nodes. Someone in charge of server balance really doesnt like LV/ex-LV. You're a goon anyways ardik go away. 0wn3d
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:28:00 - [374] Originally by: Armois Delgato Edited by: Armois Delgato on 31/08/2007 00:21:53 I like my allies I have just noticed that we have some rather **** luck when it comes to nodes. Someone in charge of server balance really doesnt like LV/ex-LV. You're a goon anyways ardik go away. Dev-swarm dude. What u expect.
Bombcrater DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:30:00 - [375] Originally by: ardik No mistake was made here. A phoenix can kill a battleship in one shot why wouldnt you have such a war machine on gatecamp? And a thanatos can kill battleships in seconds while repping its buddies so they cant die. It's a good tactic, stop trying to disrespect your allies buddy. It may well be a good tactic when the numbers are smaller, but the risk involved in using it in a battle like BKG is enormous. There were ~370 ships in BKG and 260 or so trying to jump in. The chance of that triggering a node crash or a node shutdown to prevent it killing the cluster are fairly high. And in that case, as we've seen, the jumpers-in get priority on login and the re-logging camp gets slaughtered. The M.Pire FC may not have known what happens when the node goes down during a mass jump-in, which is hardly something you can blame him for. Or he may have known and simply decided the potential payoff was worth the risk - if that was the case he deserves praise for having big brass ones. It turned into a disaster for his side, but if the node had stayed up it could easily have been a disaster for us instead... We won, but it was more a game of chance than a fight. I don't think anyone involved, on either side, is very happy at what went on in BKG tonight
Armois Delgato FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:35:00 - [376] The northern experience is sync and desync. To lag and to be lagged. The cap move apparently worked pretty well on a different day but nodeshots are scary, scary things. Glad to see CCP has eliminated all stability issues with EVE, etc.
Tarsyris Gallente The OSS	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:42:00 - [377] So what happened to the towers? I'm assuming that was the reason for tonight's efforts...
gamarus D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:44:00 - [378] Originally by: Tarsyris So what happened to the towers? I'm assuming that was the reason for tonight's efforts... Cynojammers still have 16 mill hp, so it took some work to kill that. I believe RZR caps are jumping in now though..
Lyn Bunnions	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:48:00 - [379] Edited by: Lyn Bunnions on 31/08/2007 00:48:48 stupid forum
Ironass Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:48:00 - [380] Edited by: Ironass on 31/08/2007 00:49:52 Originally by: Tarsyris So what happened to the towers? I'm assuming that was the reason for tonight's efforts... I believe that was the preliminary mission here, but our fleets didn't make it in time and the 2 Reinforced PoS's was repped up as far as i know. However: Cynojammer is currently down in BKG. Quote: Forgot about the jammer. Could you give us some numbers on the tower situation then(how many moons in system, towers on each side, reinforced towers on each side etc)? 65 moons in BKG, mostly held by M.Pire. De-sync Online... =(
Tarsyris Gallente The OSS	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:49:00 - [381] Originally by: gamarus Originally by: Tarsyris So what happened to the towers? I'm assuming that was the reason for tonight's efforts... Cynojammers still have 16 mill hp, so it took some work to kill that. I believe RZR caps are jumping in now though.. Forgot about the jammer. Could you give us some numbers on the tower situation then(how many moons in system, towers on each side, reinforced towers on each side etc)?
Ohmi Sohaawny Love You Long Time	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:57:00 - [382] Edited by: Ohmi Sohaawny on 31/08/2007 01:01:48 Quoting this. Minmatar too beaucoup!
Dianaballick Band of Developers	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:58:00 - [383] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 30/08/2007 21:53:13 Well i just had the pleasure of being stuck in space for 20 mins and after about 25 mins i watched my shield, armour, then hull slowly go down and not even see who was shooting me. Thanks for making this game so enjoyable ccp and kiss my *. DIAF Quote:** 2006.12.18 23:46:04 /DevCommand Self_destruct Phoenix(nOrAb)
Fray Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 01:55:00 - [384] Edited by: Fray on 31/08/2007 01:58:31 Originally by: Tarsyris So what happened to the towers? I'm assuming that was the reason for tonight's efforts... The towers are awesome. The one with the cyno jammer on esp as it is just pure pwnage - it even draws people who thought they got away from it with 5% hp, then arrived at the station, broadcast for armour, realigned and got disconnected BACK to it to make sure it can finish them... its THAT awesome. No idea about the towers, I'm not sure anyone else does atm either. The boards and a certain running play by play ts commentary in irc that went on were probably the most awesome part of the very long frustrating evening. God I felt my iq drop just by hitting post reply. Edit: Should probably add unlucky to mpire an co, before the crash we were getting picked off one by one as we jumped in, after the crash you got picked off. Sucky way to go - wasn't the first, won't be the last. - <@Cf'DigitalCommunist> D2, if you go to za'ha'delve, you will die. -
Danny Centurai New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.08.31 03:55:00 - [385] Its currently a game of cyno jammer goes down, we shoot it take it offline. Jump in caps. They rep the jammer and pos and things return to normal. However look at the killboards and they speak for themselves today.
Gharthak Gallente Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.31 08:41:00 - [386] Good job to all involved. It was a good fight for what it was worth and I dont recall seeing any local smack.. It was an excellent show of force by all parties involved.
Neena Valdi Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.08.31 09:01:00 - [387] Originally by: Gharthak Good job to all involved. It was a good fight for what it was worth and I dont recall seeing any local smack.. It was an excellent show of force by all parties involved. Good fight? Is it a joke? 450 vs 280. Node crashed. Most of us haven't seen a single target over the whole evening and after that most of us couldn't even log back in. Good fight indeed... staring at black screen for hours.
NOObbody Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.08.31 09:13:00 - [388] Originally by: Neena Valdi Originally by: Gharthak Good job to all involved. It was a good fight for what it was worth and I dont recall seeing any local smack.. It was an excellent show of force by all parties involved. Good fight? Is it a joke? 450 vs 280. Node crashed. Most of us haven't seen a single target over the whole evening and after that most of us couldn't even log back in. Good fight indeed... staring at black screen for hours. Of course it was a good fight. Maybe you didnt notice it by now, but your individual pov is worth nothing in alliance warfare and fleetbattles. --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
Solasta Kovacs FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 09:39:00 - [389] Originally by: Gharthak Good job to all involved. It was a good fight for what it was worth and I dont recall seeing any local smack.. It was an excellent show of force by all parties involved. I wanted to smack in local but it was too laggy
Space Harrier Minmatar Roman Holiday	Posted - 2007.08.31 09:59:00 - [390] Originally by: Danny Centurai Its currently a game of cyno jammer goes down, we shoot it take it offline. Jump in caps. They rep the jammer and pos and things return to normal. However look at the killboards and they speak for themselves today. You forgot the part where the POS kills 30+ of your battleships every time you attempt to kill the cyno jammer. Just sayin

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