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Sorum Daemoth Insidious Existence Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 00:58:00 - [301] let the man live! let him have his high-sec rorq. its not like everybody is gonna complain for one if he gets it, he deserves it, make one exception, dont be bullys
Cougem Divine Retribution	Posted - 2007.09.07 03:58:00 - [302] Well that's going to greatly reduce any chances in dividends from my OWE shares ;/
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 04:32:00 - [303] Originally by: Big Pick Originally by: SSgt Sniper Wrangler et. al., I hope you see the mess you've started and make amends quickly, before the mob gets to have thier day with you at fanfest. The man deserves a little leeway considering the chunk of change he lays out for us that YOU don't have to. Yall better start sharpnin' yer pitchforks, looks like theres gonna be a big fuss! Let's git-er-done for Chribba!!! Sharpens ye-olde pitchfork Torches! Get yer red-hot torches here! Pitchforks, five dollars! (No, rly, Chribba - Veldqual = )
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:02:00 - [304] Derek wants Chribba to have a Rorqual. Defy Derek at your own peril --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:46:00 - [305] for all the reasons repeatedly stated in the thread... /signed __________________________________
St Clair Caldari North Star Networks	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:04:00 - [306] /signed in the name of Kladdkaka
Jezze Flay	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:18:00 - [307] Originally by: Zephyrys Will CCP allow him to have the capital in high sec, showing favoritism, in light of all the recent alligations of CCP corruption and favortism towards players.. hell no. Does he deserve recognition of his works for EVE.. yes.. and he got it.. the EON award. Does he deserve in game freebies and favoritism due to something he does of his own volition outside of game? No Bingo! we have a winner! This is a company who just went through a major scandal which was fueled by many of YOU people here on the forums. Now you are asking the same company you damned to do the same sort of rule bending for someone you like...lol Can you say hypocrisy? The T20 thing is reason enough to why you will never see this guy get his ship. It doesn't matter how many lemmings go /signed Oh and a hundred or so people posting in this thread with both their main and their alts does NOT represent the 20,000 plus sized community so stop saying that you do.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:26:00 - [308] Originally by: Jezze Flay Bingo! we have a winner! This is a company who just went through a major scandal which was fueled by many of YOU people here on the forums. Now you are asking the same company you damned to do the same sort of rule bending for someone you like...lol Can you say hypocrisy? The T20 thing is reason enough to why you will never see this guy get his ship. It doesn't matter how many lemmings go /signed Oh and a hundred or so people posting in this thread with both their main and their alts does NOT represent the 20,000 plus sized community so stop saying that you do. Already been addressed and discounted. Giving T2 blueprints to your buddies on one side of an active conflict creates a fundamental imbalance in the game itself. Giving a neutral party a trophy ship that has little to no impact on the game creates no such imbalance.
Jezze Flay	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:34:00 - [309] Edited by: Jezze Flay on 07/09/2007 10:37:25 Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jezze Flay Bingo! we have a winner! This is a company who just went through a major scandal which was fueled by many of YOU people here on the forums. Now you are asking the same company you damned to do the same sort of rule bending for someone you like...lol Can you say hypocrisy? The T20 thing is reason enough to why you will never see this guy get his ship. It doesn't matter how many lemmings go /signed Oh and a hundred or so people posting in this thread with both their main and their alts does NOT represent the 20,000 plus sized community so stop saying that you do. Already been addressed and discounted. Giving T2 blueprints to your buddies on one side of an active conflict creates a fundamental imbalance in the game itself. Giving a neutral party a trophy ship that has little to no impact on the game creates no such imbalance. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:08:00 - [310] I'm actually leaning towards just giving him the damn thing so this thread would die already My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Ishara Da'Ahn Amarr Emanation Of Malevolent Outcries	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:14:00 - [311] Edited by: Ishara Da''Ahn on 07/09/2007 11:16:54 Originally by: Jezze Flay Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jezze Flay stuff. more stuff. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted. And that one person would be flamed from one end of the EVE universe to the other. Besides, if CCP would play it right, the whole event could be positive PR. You even have BoB agreeing with IAC agreeing Outbreak agreeing with Goonswarm agreeing with ex-ASCN...... and that is just skimming through the thread. How bad could it be if rivals agree?
Xeron Silverblade Esthar Industries Tres Viri	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:57:00 - [312] /signed give chribba his rorqual. he deserves it.
Jezze Flay	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:14:00 - [313] Edited by: Jezze Flay on 07/09/2007 12:15:14 Originally by: Ishara Da'Ahn Edited by: Ishara Da''Ahn on 07/09/2007 11:16:54 Originally by: Jezze Flay Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jezze Flay stuff. more stuff. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted. And that one person would be flamed from one end of the EVE universe to the other. Besides, if CCP would play it right, the whole event could be positive PR. You even have BoB agreeing with IAC agreeing Outbreak agreeing with Goonswarm agreeing with ex-ASCN...... and that is just skimming through the thread. How bad could it be if rivals agree? What makes you think that "one person" would be a current EvE subscriber? All it would take is one ex-player or EvE hater who got ****ed off at the game or CCP for some reason hearing about it and spouting off on MMORPG.com's forums {or any forums} starting rumors and propaganda about how "CCP is breaking their own rules again." You don't think that hacker dude who uncovered the T2O situation wouldn't have a field day with this? A lot of people listen to that guy too. CCP understands this and it is why this guy isn't getting the ship. It is nothing personal.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 14:51:00 - [314] Originally by: Jezze Flay Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted. The difference being above-board activities and below-board activities. T20 spawning BPOs for his buddies on the DL was a subversive act, and thusly affected perceptions of CCP negatively. If CCP were to publicly state, "This person has done incredible things for the community of EVE. His selfless dedication has made this game more than the sum of its parts, and we owe him a great debt of gratitude. In recognition for his actions, we're giving him <insert name here>, a special edition Rorqual which only he will own. (alternately substitute a regular Rorqual)," then players and nonplayers alike will see that CCP is loyal to, and rewards, those who do good to further this game. Throw the PR guys at it to spread more information to the uninformed about the terrible travesty of such an upstanding EVE citizen being stripped of his one desire, the outcry of the community, the desire of the devteam to do what's right. Do it out in the open where it'll be seen as a good thing, and spin, spin, spin. You obviously don't have a marketing degree, correct? No worries, I do, and I'm for hire.
Isakova	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:01:00 - [315] Edited by: Isakova on 07/09/2007 15:01:59 Originally by: Amarria Black You obviously don't have a marketing degree, correct? No worries, I do, and I'm for hire. With logic like that it's easy to see why. The fact is a small handful of nay-sayers are more than enough to sully a companies name. What about all the other players who run fan sites? It may not be the same circumstances, but why not reward everyone with customised ships? I am not suggesting this and while I do agree it'd be nice for them to reward someone who gives so much to their community people are always going to complain when someone else is rewarded. The best thing CCP can do is steer well clear of this thread. No-one is going to quit in protest of him not getting his ship and probably neither will he. People wont stop signing up because people on the forums are complaining about it. While it has many posibilities to make CCP look like a good, supportive company it opens itself up to many more opportunities to be dragged through the mud. Again.
Draycar Hazaran Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:17:00 - [316] /signed Chribba deserves it!
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:21:00 - [317] Ban Chribba for attempting to circumvent the stipulations laid out when they were allowed to keep their high sec lsaa's Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums: Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
Threv Echandari Caldari Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:25:00 - [318] Originally by: Isakova Edited by: Isakova on 07/09/2007 15:01:59 The fact is a small handful of nay-sayers are more than enough to sully a companies name. What about all the other players who run fan sites? It may not be the same circumstances, but why not reward everyone with customised ships? I am not suggesting this and while I do agree it'd be nice for them to reward someone who gives so much to their community people are always going to complain when someone else is rewarded. The best thing CCP can do is steer well clear of this thread. No-one is going to quit in protest of him not getting his ship and probably neither will he. People wont stop signing up because people on the forums are complaining about it. While it has many posibilities to make CCP look like a good, supportive company it opens itself up to many more opportunities to be dragged through the mud. Again. Reality Rears its Ugly Head but Frankly I don't care GIVE CHRIBBA HIS CAREBEAR-MOBILE! If anyone deserves it its him. You should have Grandfathered his LSAA and the Fruits thereof. You big Meanies...
Isakova	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:27:00 - [319] Originally by: Threv Echandari Originally by: Isakova Reality Rears its Ugly Head but Frankly I don't care GIVE CHRIBBA HIS CAREBEAR-MOBILE! If anyone deserves it its him. You should have Grandfathered his LSAA and the Fruits thereof. You big Meanies... Well from a personal POV I think it'd be a fun event like some have outlined in this thread, just someone raised the "logical" point so I thought I'd pipe up.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:57:00 - [320] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jezze Flay Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted. The difference being above-board activities and below-board activities. T20 spawning BPOs for his buddies on the DL was a subversive act, and thusly affected perceptions of CCP negatively. If CCP were to publicly state, "This person has done incredible things for the community of EVE. His selfless dedication has made this game more than the sum of its parts, and we owe him a great debt of gratitude. In recognition for his actions, we're giving him <insert name here>, a special edition Rorqual which only he will own. (alternately substitute a regular Rorqual)," then players and nonplayers alike will see that CCP is loyal to, and rewards, those who do good to further this game. Throw the PR guys at it to spread more information to the uninformed about the terrible travesty of such an upstanding EVE citizen being stripped of his one desire, the outcry of the community, the desire of the devteam to do what's right. Do it out in the open where it'll be seen as a good thing, and spin, spin, spin. You obviously don't have a marketing degree, correct? No worries, I do, and I'm for hire. After reading that, it doesn't surprise me that you are unemployed. I know it is hard to comprehend this since you probably live on these forums but there are actually sites out there which are still discussing the T20 Scandal. These are sites like mmorpg.com where players rank and discuss games. It is also a good place for people with an agenda {or grudge} to start a nasty smear campaign. I know that there are people on mmorpg.com who say bad things about EvE simply because they hated seeing it ranked as the # 1 game for so long. CCP simply isn't going to give those people any possible ammunition to start something like that especially after the crap they went through a few months ago. No matter how good intentioned and "open to the public" this gesture might be, anything can be twisted and misrepresented and CCP really cannot defend themselves on that front except to come out and make official statements periodically. It just isn't worth the risk and the can lose much more than they gain. Therefore, this crusade and thread is a loser....sorry.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:37:00 - [321] Originally by: Hasak Rain After reading that, it doesn't surprise me that you are unemployed. Originally by: Isakova With logic like that it's easy to see why. Ye gods, you're quite quick to jump to ad hominems. I never said that I was unemployed, merely for hire. Tu comprende work for the highest bidder? Originally by: Isakova The fact is a small handful of nay-sayers are more than enough to sully a companies name. What about all the other players who run fan sites? It may not be the same circumstances, but why not reward everyone with customised ships? I am not suggesting this and while I do agree it'd be nice for them to reward someone who gives so much to their community people are always going to complain when someone else is rewarded. The best thing CCP can do is steer well clear of this thread. No-one is going to quit in protest of him not getting his ship and probably neither will he. People wont stop signing up because people on the forums are complaining about it. While it has many posibilities to make CCP look like a good, supportive company it opens itself up to many more opportunities to be dragged through the mud. Again. Really, you're right. A "sensible" corporation will do nothing that potentially exposes itself to criticism. However, I would hope for more from CCP. Considering its standing position that CCP marches to its own drum and that popularity be damned, a laudable extension of this would be singling out and rewarding the exceptional regardless of the potential fallout from people who are already primed to be nay-sayers. Or would you rather that CCP dumb down EVE for the masses? Originally by: Hasak Rain I know it is hard to comprehend this since you probably live on these forums but there are actually sites out there which are still discussing the T20 Scandal. These are sites like mmorpg.com where players rank and discuss games. It is also a good place for people with an agenda {or grudge} to start a nasty smear campaign. I know that there are people on mmorpg.com who say bad things about EvE simply because they hated seeing it ranked as the # 1 game for so long. CCP simply isn't going to give those people any possible ammunition to start something like that especially after the crap they went through a few months ago. No matter how good intentioned and "open to the public" this gesture might be, anything can be twisted and misrepresented and CCP really cannot defend themselves on that front except to come out and make official statements periodically. It just isn't worth the risk and the can lose much more than they gain. Therefore, this crusade and thread is a loser....sorry. Edit: btw: go check out the thread above this one titled "corruption all over the place" as an example to how easy it is to start rumors and conspiracy theories. Now imagine that thread on another site where raging fanboys aren't there to defend CCP. A site where people go to help them decide which game they want to subscribe to. Getting the point yet?....naw probably not. MMORPG.com is a joke. Going there for MMO news is like seeking the same at gamefaqs.com, or going to freerepublic.com for balanced political debate. As to rumors, and your example thread: should tinfoil hatters and the 1% who are hell-bent on ruining everything dictate the future course of CCP's actions? Should that which is right, or that which is best for the community at-large, be subverted by those whose goal is the defamation of those who seek to better this game? How does performing a disservice to one who gives selflessly to this community do anything other than further besmirch the character of CCP? Do right actions not justify themselves?
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:52:00 - [322] /signed /signed /signed!! Let the man have his toys! -=^=-
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:55:00 - [323] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Hasak Rain After reading that, it doesn't surprise me that you are unemployed. Originally by: Isakova With logic like that it's easy to see why. Ye gods, you're quite quick to jump to ad hominems. I never said that I was unemployed, merely for hire. Tu comprende work for the highest bidder? You are correct.. you never said you were unemployed...you never said you were employed either.. You still haven't said either.. therefore you are unemployed till further notice. :) ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 18:06:00 - [324] Originally by: Illyria Ambri You are correct.. you never said you were unemployed...you never said you were employed either.. You still haven't said either.. therefore you are unemployed till further notice. :) Touche. ^_^ I hereby declare that I am currently gainfully and legally employed.
Irob Urore Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.07 18:10:00 - [325] geez get out of high sec already chribba. Your a 03 player. Stop mooching off CCP's goodwill. I mean thanks for the websites, but as has been posted no need to act like a spoilt child.

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