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Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:19:00 - [1] Edited by: Chribba on 03/09/2007 16:23:58 2007.09.03 16:03 Hi, Your corporation owned a large ship assembly array in high security space. As it is not intended for these arrays to be available in high security, they are now being removed. As such, the array has been unanchored, and the Rorqual in production (due 2007.09.09 12:07) has been canceled. In order to retrieve the ship, please file a stuck petition after this point and we will give you the ship in a low security empire system of your choosing. We apologise for the inconvenience. The EVE Online Customer Support Team I was soooo looking forward to having my high-sec Rorqual for my private Veldspar needs And so this is the end of my Capital Veldspar Fleet. Help me help you .

Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:20:00 - [2] /cues the final fantasy victory fanfare Local Thread 107-b
Wizzkidy Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:21:00 - [3] Hm that kinda sucks, I don't see why you cannot be the only one with this ship in empire its not like its going to be a huge imbalance
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:22:00 - [4] Originally by: Wizzkidy Hm that kinda sucks, I don't see why you cannot be the only one with this ship in empire its not like its going to be a huge imbalance Because bias is bad mkay? Local Thread 107-b
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:22:00 - [5] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. --- The Disclosure Project
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:22:00 - [6] Edited by: slothe on 03/09/2007 16:22:57 so does the same happen to everyone else with high-sec capital assembly arays, or just you? i know at least one other persoan that has one.
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Tsurokigaarai APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:22:00 - [7] An era is over. ----- results may vary
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:25:00 - [8] In the very least they should give you the benifit of getting the ship early as some sort of compensation for taking away the high sec cap ship production. ************************** Ki Tech Industries - Bond Offer

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:27:00 - [9] Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 03/09/2007 16:22:57 so does the same happen to everyone else with high-sec capital assembly arays, or just you? i know at least one other persoan that has one. Probably everyone having an array in 0.5+, otherwise I'd be angry instead of sad. Help me help you .

CiNi FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:29:00 - [10] Awww give chribba his hi sec Rorqual you big meanies!! Firestar Is Recruiting Again For A Short Time!!
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:29:00 - [11] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Agreed. ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.
nameless oats	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:30:00 - [12] Don't forget the ones in Luromooh or Irjunen mr gms
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Agreed. favoritism is bad mkay Local Thread 107-b
Shiner BockBeer Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:33:00 - [14] Dang. I was figuring yours would be the best way to see one in person.
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:35:00 - [15] Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 16:35:41 Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Agreed. favoritism is bad mkay The amount of favoritism that Chribba gives back to the community in general is good. mkay! ************************** Ki Tech Industries - Bond Offer
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:35:00 - [16] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 03/09/2007 16:36:13 Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 03/09/2007 16:35:19 Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Agreed. favoritism is bad mkay Chribba deserve a hisec rorqual. That the least ccp can do for the bandwidth he gives to us. - edit - oh, and the server. - edit - oh, and the maintenance. 2isk
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:35:00 - [17] If anyone deserve special treatment, it's Chribba. He's done more for the web-based portion of the EVE community than the devs! TBH though, I'm relieved. When I saw the thread title, I assumed either you were shutting down one of your services or the Veldnaught had seen it's day! ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Patch86 He's done more for the web-based portion of the EVE community than the devs! Saddly, this might actually be true. ************************** Ki Tech Industries - Bond Offer
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:39:00 - [19] Signed for chribba¦s high sec cap ships. Ship lovers click here
DirtyHarry Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:41:00 - [20] Give Chribba his hisec carebearwagon! I think CCP should make an exception in this case. rabble rabble rabble RKK INNIT - Havo / DH
Odda Gallente Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:42:00 - [21] CCP let the players give this ship to chribba in hig sec!
Suboran Gallente Sphinx Inc Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:43:00 - [22] aww comon, chribba's contribution to the game almost entitals him to it.
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:43:00 - [23] Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 16:43:02 Originally by: DirtyHarry Give Chribba his hisec carebearwagon! I think CCP should make an exception in this case. rabble rabble rabble Agreed, they should give him the Rorqual in Amarr so that he can give the Veldnaught the support it deserves. rabble rabble rabble ************************** Ki Tech Industries - Bond Offer
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Originally by: CiNi Awww give chribba his hi sec Rorqual you big meanies!! Originally by: Patch86 If anyone deserve special treatment, it's Chribba. He's done more for the web-based portion of the EVE community than the devs! Originally by: Hellspawn01 Signed for chribba¦s high sec cap ships. I also /sign this thread for Chribba to get a Roqual, even one that isnt working. Seriously, he deserves at least that. - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:45:00 - [25] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:46:14 Originally by: Suboran aww comon, chribba's contribution to the game almost entitals him to it. I remember him posting his bandwidth costs at some point, and they were astronomical. Chribba deserves special treatment, its as simple as that. Nobody else even comes close to what he has done. The guy is paying for all of us. CCP knows this to be true. Give the man his high sec veldspar machine. --- The Disclosure Project
Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:47:00 - [26] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Signed
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:53:00 - [27] Originally by: Lord MuffloN Give Chribba his high sec carebear machine! I fully support this breach of normal game rules ! _ Complaint vs whine \| Char creation guide \| Stacknerfs explained
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:53:00 - [28] Chribba's low end capital mining is part of eve history ccp - do not destroy it! /signed
Dei Amarr Guiders' Of Light	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:53:00 - [29] We should rally outside Amarr station with ishtars and attack faction police until CCP give Chribba his Rorqual! --- The true master paralyses his opponent, leaving him vulnerable to attack
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:54:00 - [30] So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint Local Thread 107-b
DirtyHarry Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:55:00 - [31] Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint dude seriously stfu RKK INNIT - Havo / DH
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:56:00 - [32] Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint I'm up to giving him a "nerfed" Roqual or a non-working one, just like an ingame trophy tbh. Seriously, all points aside, we can all agree he's done a whole friking lot for the EVE community, and people feel that he deserves it. I think we can all agree with that. - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:58:00 - [33] Edited by: Captian Internet on 03/09/2007 16:59:23 Edited by: Captian Internet on 03/09/2007 16:58:51 Originally by: DirtyHarry Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint dude seriously stfu brilliant arguement Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint I'm up to giving him a "nerfed" Roqual or a non-working one, just like an ingame trophy tbh. Seriously, all points aside, we can all agree he's done a whole friking lot for the EVE community, and people feel that he deserves it. I think we can all agree with that. Nerfed roqual I can deal with. Or a coal miner statue in an asteroid belt with Chribbia's face on it would be funnier Local Thread 107-b
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:59:00 - [34] Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 16:59:41 Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint They might be called out of game actions if they had nothing to do with the game. But they're tools and resources that he provides are next to indispensable for many players in-game play. We (all those who have voiced in favor and I am sure that there are many more) think that this would be a fitting in-game reward for the vast improvement that he has made to our in-game experience. ************************** Ki Tech Industries - Bond Offer
Leroy Payne	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:59:00 - [35] Edited by: Leroy Payne on 03/09/2007 16:59:27 Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Agreed. favoritism is bad mkay You are a confirmed exclamation mark. Die.
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:00:00 - [36] Originally by: Leroy Payne Edited by: Leroy Payne on 03/09/2007 16:59:27 Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Agreed. favoritism is bad mkay You are a confirmed exclamation mark. Die. My lack of a portrait doesn't change the issue thanks for the rage though. Local Thread 107-b
Dei Amarr Guiders' Of Light	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:01:00 - [37] Originally by: Captian Internet Edited by: Captian Internet on 03/09/2007 16:59:23 Edited by: Captian Internet on 03/09/2007 16:58:51 Originally by: DirtyHarry Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint dude seriously stfu brilliant arguement Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint I'm up to giving him a "nerfed" Roqual or a non-working one, just like an ingame trophy tbh. Seriously, all points aside, we can all agree he's done a whole friking lot for the EVE community, and people feel that he deserves it. I think we can all agree with that. Nerfed roqual I can deal with. Or a coal miner statue in an asteroid belt with Chribbia's face on it would be funnier So you would give Chribba a unique item, but not one that is available to everyone in order to stop favouritism? --- The true master paralyses his opponent, leaving him vulnerable to attack
Greenwing SuX ltd.	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:01:00 - [38] Why don't they just give all the people who have a ship in their array that ship in the same system (so high-sec) It's not like they are the first with a capital ship in empire (or is CCP removing all capitals from high-sec ? )
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:01:00 - [39] Give Chribba anything he darn well wants. The Eve community loves the fellow like no other. - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:02:00 - [40] Originally by: Ki Tarra Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 16:59:41 Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint They might be called out of game actions if they had nothing to do with the game. But they're tools and resources that he provides are next to indispensable for many players in-game play. We (all those who have voiced in favor and I am sure that there are many more) think that this would be a fitting in-game reward for the vast improvement that he has made to our in-game experience. He made a fansite and a search tool. If that is the case then every one who makes a fan site needs to get something in game. Local Thread 107-b
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:02:00 - [41] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 17:04:30 Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint Look. Anyone who puts up a gigantic file sharing service which costs them a huge amount of money JUST so they can help the community and CCP promote the game deserves special treatment. What if this post would have been about closing down eve-files? It would be a really huge loss to the community. Sharing eve files in a easy to use manner helps the game grow. Besides, the PR would be very good if ccp did this. It shows that they really appreciate the work of one very special hard working individual. Out of several hundred thousand eve players, this guy stands as #1 when it comes to creating highly needed services that are free for everybody to use. I dont see any harm in allowing him to mine veldspar with a capital ship in high sec. --- The Disclosure Project
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:03:00 - [42] Originally by: Dei Originally by: Captian Internet Edited by: Captian Internet on 03/09/2007 16:59:23 Edited by: Captian Internet on 03/09/2007 16:58:51 Originally by: DirtyHarry Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint dude seriously stfu brilliant arguement Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint I'm up to giving him a "nerfed" Roqual or a non-working one, just like an ingame trophy tbh. Seriously, all points aside, we can all agree he's done a whole friking lot for the EVE community, and people feel that he deserves it. I think we can all agree with that. Nerfed roqual I can deal with. Or a coal miner statue in an asteroid belt with Chribbia's face on it would be funnier So you would give Chribba a unique item, but not one that is available to everyone in order to stop favouritism? There are ingame trophies awarded to corps for completing certain events for example the monument outside of a station in jita awarded to BE Local Thread 107-b
Lord MuffloN Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Lord MuffloN Give Chribba his high sec carebear machine! I fully support this breach of normal game rules ! Oh sh- I forgot, it's lowsec only sorry I'll rephrase then, GIVE HIM HIS MINING TOY! FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:07:00 - [44] Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Ki Tarra Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 16:59:41 Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint They might be called out of game actions if they had nothing to do with the game. But they're tools and resources that he provides are next to indispensable for many players in-game play. We (all those who have voiced in favor and I am sure that there are many more) think that this would be a fitting in-game reward for the vast improvement that he has made to our in-game experience. He made a fansite and a search tool. If that is the case then every one who makes a fan site needs to get something in game. There is certain level of scale here. Eve-files alone probably cost a fortune to maintain. If you care to look around a little more, you will see how much he has given to the community and how little he has taken. Your arguement, does not seem to reflect the voice of the community general. ************************** Ki Tech Industries - Bond Offer
Lyn Z Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:08:00 - [45] I fully support Chribba getting his high-sec Rorqual.
Angela Toren Amarr Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:08:00 - [46] someone snitched on chribba
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:11:00 - [47] Originally by: Ki Tarra Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Ki Tarra Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 16:59:41 Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint They might be called out of game actions if they had nothing to do with the game. But they're tools and resources that he provides are next to indispensable for many players in-game play. We (all those who have voiced in favor and I am sure that there are many more) think that this would be a fitting in-game reward for the vast improvement that he has made to our in-game experience. He made a fansite and a search tool. If that is the case then every one who makes a fan site needs to get something in game. There is certain level of scale here. Eve-files alone probably cost a fortune to maintain. If you care to look around a little more, you will see how much he has given to the community and how little he has taken. Your arguement, does not seem to reflect the voice of the community general. Well some one has to post a counter arguement to GIVE ME MAH VELD. So the guys that went out and ran the numbers to find out what the mission percentages were they should get something to as that is a "great" service to the community as seen by X characters bio. The EvE wiki guys should all get special gifts because they do a "great" service to the community by finding the true sec systems, npc resists and damage types + tons of other data. If you give one fansite owner something they all must get it regardless of who is chucking money at what. Local Thread 107-b
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:17:00 - [48] Ouch I hope you can keep your dread there at least
Femaref Caldari Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:17:00 - [49] Fully supported! Chribba 4tw!
lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:17:00 - [50] Chribba deserves a hisec Rorqual. GIEF IT TO HIM NOW! --- Project Mayhem 2
Mashie Saldana Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:20:00 - [51] The timing is crap but tbh, the large ship assembly arrayes should have been unanchored the day they no longer were anchorable in highsec.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Captian Internet Well some one has to post a counter arguement to GIVE ME MAH VELD. So the guys that went out and ran the numbers to find out what the mission percentages were they should get something to as that is a "great" service to the community as seen by X characters bio. The EvE wiki guys should all get special gifts because they do a "great" service to the community by finding the true sec systems, npc resists and damage types + tons of other data. If you give one fansite owner something they all must get it regardless of who is chucking money at what. Sure, true, but im a bit tired of the really productive and helpful people not getting anything for it because everything has to be so fair all the time. It doesnt matter what a guy does, showing him some appreciation is favorism. The favorism in this case is not uncalled for. --- The Disclosure Project
Viper ShizzIe Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:21:00 - [53] Originally by: lofty29 Chribba deserves a hisec Rorqual. GIEF IT TO HIM NOW! Truth! /signed and whatnot.
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:22:00 - [54] Any special reason why CCP is doing this to chribba? Ship lovers click here
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:23:00 - [55] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Any special reason why CCP is doing this to chribba? Dibs is to avoid another Veldnaught. Looks like it backfired - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Dire Lauthris Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:23:00 - [56] Damn that sucks. ------ [The Exiled]
ookke	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:27:00 - [57] cruel
Kala Veijo Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:27:00 - [58] Give Chribba his Veldcompresser 2000. Warp Wind, CSM Chapter blog.
Miriyana Gallente Legions of Derek	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:27:00 - [59] plz fix CCP. Chribba seems to have an error... - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:38:00 - [60] Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 17:40:31 Originally by: Captian Internet Well some one has to post a counter arguement to GIVE ME MAH VELD. No. There is no counter arguement required. Many of us feel that this would be a suitable reward for all that Chribba has done. Our statement of this believe obviously has no effect on your opinions. Nor does your arguements about favoritism have any effect on our support of Chribba. You are welcome to your opinion, as are we. Whether or not CCP will give Chribba this ship or not is up to them. I will just voice my support for giving Chribba this one last addition to the legacy of the Veldnaught. ************************** Ki Tech Industries - Bond Offer
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:55:00 - [61] I think we should have a Compromise CCP. Chribba has done so much for the community. Reanchor his shipyard and allow this last capital to finish there in high sec. When completed unanchor the shipyard. It would be a nice jester to someone who has given so much to the community. (And really is much cheaper than if you had to pay for all the services he provides) Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:55:00 - [62] Originally by: Arvald Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Originally by: CiNi Awww give chribba his hi sec Rorqual you big meanies!! Originally by: Patch86 If anyone deserve special treatment, it's Chribba. He's done more for the web-based portion of the EVE community than the devs! Originally by: Hellspawn01 Signed for chribba¦s high sec cap ships. I also /sign this thread for Chribba to get a Roqual, even one that isnt working. Seriously, he deserves at least that. /signed GIVE CHRIBBA HIS ROQUAL OR FACE THE WRATH OF ARVALD AND HIS SHARP POINTY TEETH /signed Chribba is practically an EvE institution. Giving him something unique is well-deserved in my oppinion. Originally by: Tsanse Kinske The second you start equating time spent playing a game with lost time and money is the second you need to ask yourself "Why am I playing?". Seriously
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:56:00 - [63] Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 17:57:48 Originally by: Mecinia Lua I think we should have a Compromise CCP. Chribba has done so much for the community. Reanchor his shipyard and allow this last capital to finish there in high sec. When completed unanchor the shipyard. It would be a nice jester to someone who has given so much to the community. (And really is much cheaper than if you had to pay for all the services he provides) No need to reanchor the shipyard. Just spawn the ship on the proper date, or before then if the GM's don't want to revisit the issue in a week. I see no problem with letting the current batch of high sec capital ships being completed in their current location. We already have capital ships in high sec, what is a couple more. ************************** Ki Tech Industries - Bond Offer
Allisie	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:57:00 - [64] This must be an oversight. I'm sure they were just cleaning up other highsec POSs and didn't realise it'd kill Chribba's. They wouldn't do that to him deliberately
RigelKentaurus Flying Reblochons Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:01:00 - [65] Originally by: Lyn Z I fully support Chribba getting his high-sec Rorqual. A Rorqual Chribba Issue!
Lord MuffloN Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:05:00 - [66] Originally by: RigelKentaurus Originally by: Lyn Z I fully support Chribba getting his high-sec Rorqual. A Rorqual Chribba Issue! I don't know how to say this, YES!
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:06:00 - [67] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. I agree, they should make 1 exception. ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:08:00 - [68] Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. I agree, they should make 1 exception. Mouse meet cookie Local Thread 107-b
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:11:00 - [69] Originally by: Jim McGregor Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. /Signed not nice CCP, you could have waited a few weeks - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:11:00 - [70] Edited by: Tortun Nahme on 03/09/2007 18:12:03 they waited a year anyone else notice this is a good sign, they might get around to removing the old cans too! Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums: Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
AirWalker Amarr Galactic Response Team	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:28:00 - [71] long live the king of veld
magnus amadeus Amarr Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:31:00 - [72] I agree its high-time they unanchored the high-sec large ship assemblies, but ffs CCP. Chribba deserves to have it. Hell I think he deserves some type of super-jovian mining platform. Don't listen to children like Captain Internet, everyone thats not blind can see that Chribba is an irreplaceable asset to EvE. I mean come on man, he never ask for anything for all the hard work he puts into the community of EvE, so I think if he wants his roraqual (sp?) give it to him. _________________________________________________ Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you down with experience.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:39:00 - [73] Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Agreed. favoritism is bad mkay Zip it lame alt. Agreed , chribba deserves it and would be nice if CCP makes a sort of event about it or something to give it a publicity .
Par Bobot	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:41:00 - [74] GIVE DA MAN HIS SHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jinmie	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:48:00 - [75] Originally by: Captian Internet /cues the final fantasy victory fanfare Maybe you should learn how to spell Captain mmmmkay.
Mikal Drey Angels and Demons	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:49:00 - [76] hey hey not sure if i support the allowance of the rorqual for various reasons but i would like to add Why now ? Also if its been unanchored and the new rorqual being moved to a low sec system why hasnt the veldnaught also been removed under the same reasons ?
Valeo Galaem InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:49:00 - [77] /riot /signed Give Chribba his Rorq! Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption Methods
Meepie	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:51:00 - [78] Slight favoritism that isn't game unbalancing and simply aids in creating a better community for players greater than most average MMO communities is good. Chribba has spent and continues to spend a lot of money on the hosting with eve-files which has been a massive community builder. He deserves a high sec Rorqual.
SchirmerN Amarr Danish Arms Association	Posted - 2007.09.03 18:51:00 - [79] Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. I agree, they should make 1 exception. Mouse meet cookie Seriously, are you off your meds of something?
Mr Crow Legion Of Darkspace Requiem-Aeternam	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:04:00 - [80] Originally by: Mikal Drey hey hey not sure if i support the allowance of the rorqual for various reasons but i would like to add Why now ? Also if its been unanchored and the new rorqual being moved to a low sec system why hasnt the veldnaught also been removed under the same reasons ? when his dread was made in high sec it was within legitimate game mechanics to do so. the fact of the matter is that the rules were changed in RMR and it's due to a exploit or whatever (as construction yards aren't allowed in high sec anymore) as he should not of had the option to build it. saying that give the man his ship! /me imagines him running the gang link to help a fleet of rookie ships in amarr mine something decent
Lord Zoran Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:10:00 - [81] /SIGNED give him what he deserves after all he's king of veld --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:16:00 - [82] Give the guy his Rorqual...
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:17:00 - [83] Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Ki Tarra Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 16:59:41 Originally by: Captian Internet So every one loves him that is understandable but giving him an in game reward for out of game actions is unjustified and shows blatant favoritism which is bad in a pr standpoint They might be called out of game actions if they had nothing to do with the game. But they're tools and resources that he provides are next to indispensable for many players in-game play. We (all those who have voiced in favor and I am sure that there are many more) think that this would be a fitting in-game reward for the vast improvement that he has made to our in-game experience. He made a fansite and a search tool. If that is the case then every one who makes a fan site needs to get something in game. A fan site? Aside from EVE Search (phenomenally useful search tool), EVE Files (hosting 99% of all the EVE images, screenshots, videos, forum signatures, and resources that exist), free hosting for EVE corporate websites, Podbase (sadly not around at the moment, but a pioneer of EVE killboarding), the Agent Finder (incredibly useful), EVE Videos and a server monitor, he also leaps in to fill any gap that CCP ever leave in their service within moments of them making the announcement. For example, when CCP announced that they were closing the market forums (idiotic decision that thankfully has been suspended for a long time), within about 5 posts Chribba had set up a replacement. All of which he does for free, and personal expense and effort. When someone contributes that much to any community, they deserve some recognition. And not just from the players- recognition from the Devs whose game he relentlessly help out, should show some love too. Saying "no favouritism" is a bit like a General coming to a heroic soldier, having valiantly and through great self sacrifice achieves some immensely important feats, and saying "Well we would reward you with a medal and a lucrative retirement, but that'd kinda be showing you some favouritism which might upset some of the other soldiers. But please do keep working hard for us!". There's "favouritism" and there's showing some gratitude. Anyhow, Rorqual or no, I fully support the "Statue of Chribba" proposal ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Terror Rising Death Of Fallen Angels	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:19:00 - [84] Edited by: Terror Rising on 03/09/2007 19:20:10 If they had warned people it would not have been an issue.. If they had not trapped billions of isk of components and bps it would not have been an issue .. If they had put it in the patch notes it would not have been an issue.. If they had even hinted at it or pre-empted it would not have been an issue.. If they had not just bodged it, it would not have been an issue.. Guess what .... But then this is CCP, the master of "features".
Antaris Xenal Gallente Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:23:00 - [85] /signed, Chribba deserves anything he wants.
Leviathan Brian Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:25:00 - [86] /signed, make an exception!
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:25:00 - [87] I disagree. I think that everything unique should be removed from Eve and then all items and types of gameplay balanced to be even across the board so that there is nothing that is overpowered or underpowered. Btw, this is exactly how it happens in the real world and I feel eve should reflect it. I actually thought something like this would happen. Funny how they can remove this but cant get rid of the armies of hauler mission running macro/farming alts that everyone is complaining about. Chribbas high sec ship array was way more important to get rid of then the people ruining the eveconomy. Way to go CCP, as usual you work on the crap that doesn't need it and leave the stuff that really affects the game for another time. btw, did I have enough sarcasm up there or do I need more of these ? ----------------- Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:26:00 - [88] Originally by: Antaris Xenal /signed, Chribba deserves anything he wants. qft ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
Intigo Amarr The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:27:00 - [89] Chribba deserves the love. EVE-Files is nothing short of amazing work. --
Badhands Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:30:00 - [90] Originally by: Johncrab Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Signed Doubly signed. Originally by: Player Guide Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses. ^^^Stolen from Tarminic^^^
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:31:00 - [91] As Chribba: - Has given an immense amount to the Eve community - Is one of the few 'true neutral' pilots in Eve - Has an almost legendary love for Veldspar CCP should unanchor his shipyard, but spawn the Rorqual in its place. Either that, or name a Moon after him. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Thommy	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:34:00 - [92] Although the issue with unanchoring the hi-sec LSAA's os understandable it should have been done alot sooner if it where an big issue (right on the notice that anchoring them in hi-sec is no longer possible, not how long has it been afterwards). I would be pretty sure chribba would be showing off the industrial mode to new players (hint hint very awesome ccp publicity machine ... think off the impressed new players!). Now who will see it? - People in lowsec - People who own one / can afford one - 0.0 corps / alliances Who will not see it? - Everyone that doesnt want to be bait for lowsec pirates under an possible claim off an rorqual showing - People who cant loose anything because of low isk and therefore dont leave hi-sec Im sure alot of new players would be very amazed by seeing motherships, titans, carriers and dreads and now the capital industrial ship Unfortunately they will only see a few of these and most likely on the bullet recieveing end and have no time to really look at it and be impressed but rather hate them. On the other end chribba has given so much which cannot be compared to anyone else. Only a small selection of what he gives: - eve search (better search engine for these forums) - eve files (host your images & video's related to eve) and there are many more. When i see what is hosted on eve-files alone and look at what the bandwidth would be i can imagine its an very big bill to foot for a person and he does it without expectations from ccp whatsoever (thats true love for a game). Additionally he also spends money to invest into new / better hardware and really delivers on his promises. Long story short: i would vote for chribba getting some little unique thing like the rorqual. If it is an issue he would use things ccp dont want to be used (mineral compression, super bonusses etc) change it so it cant do that but make it able to come into and go out of industrial mode because that is just truely awesome to see. Guide \| Patch day
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:36:00 - [93] Edited by: Mithrantir Ob''lontra on 03/09/2007 19:37:00 Give Chribba his high sec Rorqual CCP. The man has done so much for the community and thus the game. I, among many others, urge you to break the rules for this one time. He deserves it, hands down. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Vienna Gates Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:47:00 - [94] Give the man what he deserves CCP! give him his high sec Rorqual!!
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:53:00 - [95] Why must it be a pessimistic thread? The thread could have been made a bit cheerful by posting - The beginning of a new era :) Optimism is good, the future's bright. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Ess Erbe State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:55:00 - [96] VERY signed! Give Chribba his high-sec Rorqual! Rorqual Chribba Issue - Role Bonus: 50 % extra Veldspar compression per skill level.
herot The Scope	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:59:00 - [97] Have a heart! Give our Veld-amour his high-sec mining jewel.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:02:00 - [98] Edited by: Ricdic on 03/09/2007 20:05:19 Posting in a Save Chribba thread Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
The Squirrell Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:02:00 - [99] /signed. Chribba for the Rorqual!
Lishan Kamatar	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:04:00 - [100] /signed he must have his carebearmachine!!! 99.99% of the eve comunity will agree!
BenYGW Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:05:00 - [101] /signed
DHG Cold Blooded Killers	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:36:00 - [102] /signed Get him a highsec Rorqual, let him keep the veld plague under control
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:39:00 - [103] Give him his Rorqual! He's deserving an exception.
Sha Dar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:56:00 - [104] /signed Hell, for the amount of tools/bandwidth/goodwill etc he has given, he ought to be given the rorqual as a special dispensation and while they're at it, quadruple the veld roids in his main system (amarr ?) as a further thank you. -
Kodiak31415 An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.09.03 21:13:00 - [105] /signed I wonder if CCP realizes just how much Chribba has done for the community? _______________________________ Pleese exucse any seplling erorr's in tihs psot
Frances Ducoir Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion	Posted - 2007.09.03 21:23:00 - [106] make an event out of this in which the community can decide wether chribba gets the rorqual or not... i.e. rorqual must be escorted from 0.0 through high pirate infested region to amarr. player could decide to defend or attack it! pleaaaaaase. snip Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch
Kikuko Rakeriku Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2007.09.03 21:25:00 - [107] Give the toy to chribba!
May Shiko	Posted - 2007.09.03 21:29:00 - [108] Seriously, I'm a pretty laid back gamer. People who are new to the game, people who don't visit the forums, people who only stay for the trial. Most everyone from these rather 'unexposed' groups, knows Chribba's name. The man is one of the game's icons. It's not favoritism, it's just rewards. Seriously, people who don't know or care about things like BoB and what not, and they still know of Chribba. That's the kind of presence and impact the guy has on this game.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 21:30:00 - [109] Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: Wizzkidy Hm that kinda sucks, I don't see why you cannot be the only one with this ship in empire its not like its going to be a huge imbalance Because bias is bad mkay? You say that because you're just bigoted against it. You're a hater. Why do you hate so much? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Tassadar Beta Amarr BIG	Posted - 2007.09.03 21:32:00 - [110] Chribba does/has done a lot for the eve community but CCP shouldn't make an exception. I'm pretty sure if CCP rewarded hard working ISD/CCP people with capital ships in hi-sec systems, people would scream blue murder. I'm pretty sure the volunteers especially work their arse off far more than you can imagine for no reward...should we give all of them cap ships in amarr? Go donate through his paypal if you want to reward him and help him, help you. Thats the way to help the guy in my opinion.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.09.03 21:40:00 - [111] Ahhh, come on CCP!! Chribba has done so much for Eve! Why can't he be the only one with a high sec Rorq? I know, it might cause angry shouts of favourism, but ... it is Chribba!! Maybe he can have a test ship. And since he has grown a huge reputation, ORE could have decided to study their new ship in an controlled and secure environment, so that would explain the uniqueness of this high sec ship
Esme Calladine Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:00:00 - [112] If CCP are unwilling to show their immense thanks to the almighty Chribba, perhaps the community should take it upon themselves? I present to you my idea; "Veldathon 2007"! We get as many people as possible into Amarr (weekend probably best?), and mine veld till there is no more veld to mine! all Veldspar mined to be donated to the incredible Chribba! I'm sure he could do with a few more billion veld :)
DirtyHarry Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:02:00 - [113] DEV response imo RKK INNIT - Havo / DH
Petrothian Tong Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:15:00 - [114] /signed for the King of Veldspar. Originally by: CCP Chronotis Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
Dei Amarr Guiders' Of Light	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:20:00 - [115] What aboot a Revelation Chribba Issue instead? --- The true master paralyses his opponent, leaving him vulnerable to attack
Trek Minmatar N.A.G.A Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:23:00 - [116] In game compensation for out of game stuff is not really right, and I am not sure if this should be an exception because of EVE-files or EVE-search. However in my mind there is another very compelling reason for letting Chribba keep his dread and also get that Rorqual. The fact that a well known and trusted person owns a capital ship or two in high-sec allows newer players to go there and see the big ships for themselves. Otherwise the only view many players would get of capitals is a short glimpse before they are ganked by a carrier or mothership by a low sec gate. Imagine yourself how massive a dread must look to the average month-old player! I remember the first time I saw a battleship a long way back and it was huge and awe-inspiring. Now think of how much bigger a dread is for the new player! Maybe seeing the massive ship gives that player something to aim for and a goal in the game. So I say let Chribba have his ships, not because of some out of game reasons but because of the in game stuff it contributes to. --- My other ship is a Reaper
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:43:00 - [117] Edited by: Kcel Chim on 03/09/2007 22:44:58 im with Trek on this one. Give new players a chance to see the "endgame" content. I remember seeing the first bs in 2003/4 and the excitement it created amongst my friends to chase an armagedon or an apoc to see this beauty move in highsec. Chribba has done alot for the community and while i agree that alone doesnt justify a special treatment youve also add into the equasion that bringing in new players was rewarded with ingame items not too long ago aswell while helping the existing playerbase and supporting ccp on many shortcomings from chribba was not rewarded (yet). Chribba is famous for his veldnought and i doubt that a rorc would imbalance all of eve in one day, especially in the hands of someone who has the least intention to exploit it in any way or form and just wants it for a laugh. Let him build his ship elsewhere and move it to amarr. Make a cute event out of it where the pie guys can parade in their shiny armors and alot of newbies can see a deepspace vessel pull into port of the throneworld station.
Victor Ivanov Minmatar The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:51:00 - [118] Roamy says: Give Chribba his OptiVeld Prime ship. :D The arguments in favour are sound. ----------------------
Treelox Amarr Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:55:00 - [119] CCP, you annoy me to no end with your disregard for the player base, really! Allow Chribba his Rorgual in Amarr. His Veldnaught has been a fixture there for a long time. Its a tourist attraction for new pilots, and is part of the rich "urban" lore of eve. Chribba's prescence in cap ships, mining in Amarr is a part of this game. -- http://www./sigs/Treelox/sig.png [orange]signature removed (change the zombie gagging sig) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected]
Tasuric Orka Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:00:00 - [120] The community demands it, give chribba his ****ing Rorq, he simply deserves it.
gaaksel Destructive Influence	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:02:00 - [121] Give him his ship already.. seriously.
bluechimera D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:06:00 - [122] Give Chribba the Rorqual! DO IT NOW!
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:13:00 - [123] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Originally by: CiNi Awww give chribba his hi sec Rorqual you big meanies!! Originally by: Patch86 If anyone deserve special treatment, it's Chribba. He's done more for the web-based portion of the EVE community than the devs! Originally by: Hellspawn01 Signed for chribba¦s high sec cap ships. I also /sign this thread for Chribba to get a Roqual, even one that isnt working. Seriously, he deserves at least that. I agree. Chribba with a high-sec Rorqual would be awesome.
Kaaii Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:17:00 - [124] I Too, am saddened by the blatant turncoat of events.... I had one of the other LSAA's in empire as well, and was building two rorquals (as well as a nid) like I have done For the last eleven months... When low and behold I get a system message saying no more, which i quickly petitioned, including Kierons Orginal response on LSAA's in EMPIRE In that thread part way down you can clearly see him stating "they would stay", that they would be grandfathered in, but just that no new ones would be allowed. Some preceived this as a slight, that others had this "special feature" but never did they address the issue that this was available to anyone who had the desire to anchor a tower in hi sec, pre-December (kali?) Im at a loss to such a "we said its ok but we take it back" attitude,... Downhill we go... Kaaii "Id rather fall beside 10 Lions, than stand with 1000 sheep.."
Senator Martin'Lefouret	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:18:00 - [125] /signed give chribba his rorqual and if you don't want to, give it to him for 1 day, make an event out of it then, the official launch of the first rorqual, let him use it in high sec for 1 day then as a demonstration of the future for low sec and 0.0 mining, so everyone willing to make the trip to watch it.
Gomorn	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:18:00 - [126] Edited by: Gomorn on 03/09/2007 23:18:46
Cpt Fina Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:20:00 - [127] Isn't chribba still the only one in Eve with a Dreadnought in High-sec? Eve-files rocks tho so i wouldn't mind if he got a (non functioning) Rorq.
dfbhetbher	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:23:00 - [128] nah, screw chibbra. he didnt sign some form saying he gets special treatment for being generous. hey lets compromise game mechanics and fairness by paying CCP 3000 dollars cause im a rich bastard and I can afford to toss money at a video game, so I deserve to be better in the game than everyone else. nahhh.
Entreri Finwe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:30:00 - [129] Originally by: dfbhetbher brain damage, possibly drug related Originally by: jarack I de-synced in my bathroom once, now i have no where to wash my hands
Sir Heavy Dragonian Freelancers Academy	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:31:00 - [130] Originally by: Chribba snip Posting of private communication with CCP personnel is not allowed on the forum. -pirlouit ([email protected]) No elbows on that mod, I've got them, I'll just keep refreshing how long it takes to be snipped. unlucky Chribba!
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:33:00 - [131] Edited by: cal nereus on 03/09/2007 23:33:58 Chribba having a high-sec Rorqual doesn't threaten anyone, but meh. It's only fluff.
dfbhetbher	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:39:00 - [132] Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 03/09/2007 23:33:58 Chribba having a high-sec Rorqual doesn't threaten anyone, but meh. It's only fluff. 10/10 for missing the point. it creates a precedent for paying lots of real life money to get around playing the game by its design. lets all buy ISK from farmers too.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.09.03 23:44:00 - [133] i hope all the veldspar soothes your wounds Chribba ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Gemmi Onyc	Posted - 2007.09.04 00:03:00 - [134] Originally by: dfbhetbher Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 03/09/2007 23:33:58 Chribba having a high-sec Rorqual doesn't threaten anyone, but meh. It's only fluff. 10/10 for missing the point. it creates a precedent for paying lots of real life money to get around playing the game by its design. lets all buy ISK from farmers too. Anything you write is made null by the fact that you're an alt with a name like an isk farmer.
dfbhetbher	Posted - 2007.09.04 00:06:00 - [135] because idiocy is logical..
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.04 00:41:00 - [136] Originally by: Gemmi Onyc Originally by: dfbhetbher Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 03/09/2007 23:33:58 Chribba having a high-sec Rorqual doesn't threaten anyone, but meh. It's only fluff. 10/10 for missing the point. it creates a precedent for paying lots of real life money to get around playing the game by its design. lets all buy ISK from farmers too. Anything you write is made null by the fact that you're an alt with a name like an isk farmer. Attacking the person who makes the point is avoiding the argument please try again. Local Thread 107-b
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.04 00:53:00 - [137] ccp ban the /signed lemmings! they are a detriment to high sec Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums: Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
RigelKentaurus Flying Reblochons Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:02:00 - [138] Originally by: Captian Internet Attacking the person who makes the point is avoiding the argument please try again. What's the point of arguing with a troll?
Waxau Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:05:00 - [139] /Signed - Chribba needs his high sec Cap ships. Heck, a couple were given an opus luxury Yacht, for getting married. Thats putting how many billions into the game? Chribba has actually not only attracted many to eve, but made many stay, due to the community feel of eve. And lets face it - Eve would be different without chribba - and not for the better. give Chribba a pink Rorqual!
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:28:00 - [140] There's a precedent for killing all the Jews in the world. There's a precedent for just about anything, and it's meaningless to say "OMG, there's precedent." Giving Chribba the Veldqual does nothing but make us happy.
Clorthos Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:31:00 - [141] Originally by: Kaaii Edited by: Kaaii on 03/09/2007 23:37:28 I Too, am saddened by the blatant turncoat of events.... I had one of the other LSAA's in empire as well, and was building two rorquals (as well as a nid) like I have done For the last eleven months... When low and behold I get a system message saying no more, which i quickly petitioned, including Kierons Orginal response on LSAA's in EMPIRE In that thread part way down you can clearly see him stating "they would stay", that they would be grandfathered in, but just that no new ones would be allowed. Some preceived this as a slight, that others had this "special feature" but never did they address the issue that this was available to anyone who had the desire to anchor a tower in hi sec, pre-December (kali?) Im at a loss to such a "we said its ok but we take it back" attitude,... I guess we as the game community should be getting used to that by now... Downhill we go... Kaaii complete and utter fubish for ccp to do a 180, the actual ammount of shipyards was getting smaller and smaller due to people searching them out and blowing them up. Over time the problem would of been solved by the actual gaming community. As it is now all large ship assymbly arrays in emprie have been offlined and unanchored, materials in the hanger are moved to the closest corp office of the owner of the pos and all jobs will be delivered to the nearest low sec station. That being said CCP has once again changed thier stated position on a subject that was covered in nov of 2006. For those of you thinking the high sec Rorq is a expliot need to read the link in the quotes above, all Large arrays already up were granfathered in.
Callthetruth Caldari Drunken Ratbags Inc New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:34:00 - [142] give chribba a ticket into isd and limit him to a high sec ORE cap ship. If not oh well
Clorthos Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:39:00 - [143] if ccp followed thier own word stated in http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=430960&page=10 this would not be an issue .... end of statement.
EliteSlave Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:58:00 - [144] this is complete idiocy, return the LSAA's, this was unjustified, and no prior notice. we want our lsaa's back
GPerson Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.09.04 02:26:00 - [145] CCP, you set a new low on this one. Not only did you do a 180 on an issue that would have been eliminated by the community eventually anyway, but you snub Chribba, a man to has given more than anyone else has to help the community? And he's picked up your slack on more occasions then I care to count, to boot. Give the man his ****ing Rorq, at the very least. ~~~Sig Stuffs Here~~~ I highly recommend drunken posting. This sig has been unhighjacked since 2005.
RigelKentaurus Flying Reblochons Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.09.04 02:40:00 - [146] Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Yes because the words 'CCP' and 'special treatment' won't cause them any damage regardless of the context. Replace it with 'reward' if it annoys you that much
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion	Posted - 2007.09.04 02:42:00 - [147] Everyone's biased. It's the people who pretend that they aren't that I don't trust to be quite honest. Chribba is an icon, and deserves iconic status.
Sanguinarius Aevum	Posted - 2007.09.04 02:47:00 - [148] Originally by: dfbhetbher nah, screw chibbra. he didnt sign some form saying he gets special treatment for being generous. hey lets compromise game mechanics and fairness by paying CCP 3000 dollars cause im a rich bastard and I can afford to toss money at a video game, so I deserve to be better in the game than everyone else. nahhh. ZOMG! ISK farmer farming Chribba's thread of goodness! make them stop!!!
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.09.04 02:49:00 - [149] The Rorqual is not a mining ship ffs. -------------- Fulfilling 0.0 Ammo needs since 2 days after being made.
Raivi Explosion Matrix Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.09.04 02:53:00 - [150] Run an ingame event where ORE gives Chribba a Rorqual in high sec. If anyone complains about AURORA bias, just remind them that AURORA is closing. Explosion Matrix: Nostrum Nomen est Ridiculum
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.09.04 03:19:00 - [151] Originally by: Cpt Fina Isn't chribba still the only one in Eve with a Dreadnought in High-sec? Eve-files rocks tho so i wouldn't mind if he got a (non functioning) Rorq. Before the screwup with allowing LSAAs in highsec, there were only two capital ships in highsec: Chribba's Revelation in Amarr, and then someone else, whose name I forget, had a Phoenix in Sobaseki. There may have been a couple others, but those are the only 2 I know of, and all but those two should be forced into lowsec. -------------- Fulfilling 0.0 Ammo needs since 2 days after being made.
Dark Warrior Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.04 04:10:00 - [152] I don't think there is a person who has done more for the community and popularity of the game than Chribba. Come on guys - it wouldn't kill you to allow him to finish the production of that boat! _________________________________________
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.09.04 04:24:00 - [153] Edited by: Verite Rendition on 04/09/2007 04:24:10 Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis Originally by: Cpt Fina Isn't chribba still the only one in Eve with a Dreadnought in High-sec? Eve-files rocks tho so i wouldn't mind if he got a (non functioning) Rorq. Before the screwup with allowing LSAAs in highsec, there were only two capital ships in highsec: Chribba's Revelation in Amarr, and then someone else, whose name I forget, had a Phoenix in Sobaseki. There may have been a couple others, but those are the only 2 I know of, and all but those two should be forced into lowsec. As the owner of another high-sec Phoenix that wasn't a LSAA product I vehemently disagree with this. It's not like there are ever going to be more cap ships in high-sec, so I don't think any of us would like it if CCP were taking away any of our toys. And poor Chribba, he really does deserve that Rorq. At least they aren't taking away anything else. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.04 04:28:00 - [154] Chribba for president
Gaunty Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.09.04 04:29:00 - [155] Originally by: DirtyHarry Give Chribba his hisec carebearwagon! I think CCP should make an exception in this case. rabble rabble rabble Agree.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.09.04 04:50:00 - [156] Give the man his Rorqual. . . It's Chribba ffs, not like he'll be siphoning off compressed Veld to nullsec wars or something. . . I have seen one capital on TQ, a Thanatos-class Carrier in Inari. It had apparently just been picked up, and the owner was jumping it out to lowsec. It was a rather impressive ship. There is a place for major (non-exploit related) changes to production mechanics (like, say. . . the end of highsec cap production). It's the patch notes. -------------------------------------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Slash Harnet Minmatar Industrial Services INC	Posted - 2007.09.04 05:25:00 - [157] Give some Rorqual love to Chribba! signature removed ... Pirlouit I finally got my sig nerfed once, I feel like a forum warrior!
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.04 06:01:00 - [158] Joining the RAZ.. err Chribba bandwagon so .. /sign0d!!! I was sworn absolute love by Pepperami
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2007.09.04 06:10:00 - [159] Edited by: Mnengli Noiliffe on 04/09/2007 06:12:39 why is era over? are you gonna cancel your accounts and close down web sites if ccp does not comply with the request? seriously why do people frown upon in game rewards for things like bringing new players to the game, but wholly support Chribba in this case?
Jezze Flay	Posted - 2007.09.04 06:27:00 - [160] Edited by: Jezze Flay on 04/09/2007 06:28:06 Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe Edited by: Mnengli Noiliffe on 04/09/2007 06:12:39 why is era over? are you gonna cancel your accounts and close down web sites if ccp does not comply with the request? seriously why do people frown upon in game rewards for things like bringing new players to the game, but wholly support Chribba in this case? Because they are hypocrites. And I agree with the poster who suggested that this guy should open up a PayPal account and all these people who say he should be rewarded can reward him. Oh but wait....that would require that the reward {gasp} comes from them and not CCP. That sort of curbs the enthusiasm a bit doesn't it?
Ess Erbe State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.04 06:30:00 - [161] Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe why is era over? Because his LSAA is being nuked within a week of finishing off his Rorqual? I agree with the Veldathon. Let's mine all the Veld in the systems around Amarr and then give it to Chribba!
Tivookzz	Posted - 2007.09.04 06:34:00 - [162] Threaten to shutdown eve-files and you should soon see the rorqual in your ship hangar ;) Make an exception CCP!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.04 06:52:00 - [163] Wouldn't the classic line "If you want special presents, go play Hello Kitty Online" be appropriate here? EVE is a cruel and cold place, where you get squat all for free and no good deed goes un-rewarded. So...in regards to this being EVE(as is the consensus of the majority), no ship for Chribba nod So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Linavin Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.04 07:05:00 - [164] Originally by: Brunswick2 Chribba for Emperor Fix'd ---
Kibbler FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.04 07:08:00 - [165] I fully support this! Chribba desserves a Rorqual in high-sec!
Vir Hellnamin Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.09.04 07:12:00 - [166] Mega sucky decision, bth. -- V.H. "Entering MH means instant death. It's worse than 0.0. Even the asteroids shoot back." - Alex Harumichi, Gradient [GRD]
EntroX Arepa INC.	Posted - 2007.09.04 07:14:00 - [167] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Lord MuffloN Give Chribba his high sec carebear machine! I fully support this breach of normal game rules ! This.
Varrakk Chosen Path FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:17:00 - [168] I take it was Chribba's petition in original post that got annihilated? Is everyone getting their LSAA petitions turned down, even if we was permitted to keep them?
Fendragun Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:23:00 - [169] boooo ccp EX-DICE CEO EX-ATUK Director EX-MACE CEO EX-Xanadu Officer
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:39:00 - [170] Given how much he does for the community, and that in his case, it is pretty harmless to the game, i think CCP could rethink this someway _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:56:00 - [171] Originally by: Varrakk I take it was Chribba's petition in original post that got annihilated? Is everyone getting their LSAA petitions turned down, even if we was permitted to keep them? Not a petition, but rather an ingame mail from the game master team informing him of the removal of his LSAA and offering to spawn the nearly completed ship in a lowsec system of his choice. I am pretty sure that every highsec LSAA holder got a similar mail on that day.
Viliny principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:19:00 - [172] Ishina, where are you signatures from? And /signed for chribbas rorqie!
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:22:00 - [173] Black Adder, I believe. Made by Fotoflame, not by me. They're awesome, if a bit politically outdated Back on topic: The EVE public demands a Rorqual for Chribba!
Darwinia Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:30:00 - [174] Give Chribba his empire toy, he deserves it and we don't mind. ------------------------ I don't believe in sigs.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:35:00 - [175] I fully endorse this thread. Chribba has proven he can act responsibly with high sec capital assets and he is both a symbol as well as a highly valued member of the EVE community. He deserves the distinction of a Roqual. Now why he would want a ship that can't be used to mine directly with i wouldn't know (AFAIK the ship can not mount mining lasers, just support modules and tractors), but still he deserves something special as the king of Veldspar.
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:35:00 - [176] Ohh well i will get hammered here, but here we go First i am sry u did not get to finish u Rorqual and u deserve it more then any, but whit that said. i think ccp does the right thing, the ship was not meant in high sec and thus they did what they did, no matter how and so it cant be fair if some can get a unique ship like that in high sec and other ppl will be denied, its either all or none so if chribba gets a Rorqual in highsec all who wants one there should be allowed. pretty simple u cant let some ppl get a favour over other like this. flame me away ppl!
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:49:00 - [177] And on top of that you got modded. So I don't know exactly what you were after or how, but I get the gist of it. THIS is what you get for causing CCP to U-Turn on the sales forums. Payback is a *****. You got CCPWNED!
Kirjava Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:56:00 - [178] I say Eve has 2 problems at the moment - so it is only appropriate to remove both at once. The Ammarr Roleplaying community needs an emperor - we have Chibbra who is know for having his Veldnaught in Ammarr. I say we make him the Emperor of the Ammarr empire - and as such give him his designated imperial flagship - the Chibbra issue Avatar - mining style. CCP - this man has done more for the game than ANY individual I can think of bar making the game itself, please let the icon of Eve have his iconic tools. /sighned in my blood with a kidney as full stop. Ultimate solution to Jita Problem thread Prublems Originally by: Tarminic 1. Research CCP's network architecture 2. Research CCP's physical hardware 3. Read dev blogs relating to server and hardwa
Jinmie	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:58:00 - [179] "Captian Internet" You claim to be a forum pvp specialist and the "Captian of the Internet". You can't even spell your own name correctly! (Captain) You have already failed at the internet. Bye!
Meepie	Posted - 2007.09.04 10:02:00 - [180] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Wouldn't the classic line "If you want special presents, go play Hello Kitty Online" be appropriate here? EVE is a cruel and cold place, where you get squat all for free and no good deed goes un-rewarded. So...in regards to this being EVE(as is the consensus of the majority), no ship for Chribba nod Exactly where is your signature hosted?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.04 10:06:00 - [181] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/09/2007 10:06:00 Originally by: Meepie Originally by: Sheriff Jones Wouldn't the classic line "If you want special presents, go play Hello Kitty Online" be appropriate here? EVE is a cruel and cold place, where you get squat all for free and no good deed goes un-rewarded. So...in regards to this being EVE(as is the consensus of the majority), no ship for Chribba nod Exactly where is your signature hosted? points at other thread Go read that, then come back here to flame. Thank you. So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Gorefacer	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:04:00 - [182] Chribba's a great guy I 'm sure. Honestly I never used EVE files and never worried about it dropping off the face of the Earth. If CCP wants to reward Chribba they can give him free subscriptions. Changing the rules of the game for one person is unacceptable. The devs created the game, yet there was a huge outcry when it was perceived they helped a particular group of players. According to people's logic in this thread (contribution to EVE equaling allowed special in-game treatment), the devs should be able to give and do anything to anyone. If the devs aren't allowed to do this, neither is Chribba. It's the principal of the matter for the integrity of the game, I'm sure Chribba will be fine playing the game the same way everyone else has to. In short, with nothing personal against Chribba, I vote no. "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus
Khanid Honey	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:12:00 - [183] Originally by: Meepie Exactly where is your signature hosted? You don't want to know where Chribba has his servers hosted for free.
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:44:00 - [184] The first post even got edited by a mod. You should be ashamed of yourself for doing this to chribba. To the GM that started all this: YOU SUCK. To the mod that edited the post: YOU SUCK. CCP for not rewarding chribba for a service thats way better than yours: YOU SUCK EVEN MORE. And you call yourself a caring company, you¦re lame tbh. Ship lovers click here
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:47:00 - [185] Give it to the man. That is all. ----------------
Senghir Amarr Deep Space Security	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:53:00 - [186] So Chribba mines in high sec? So he hosts a file sharing application. So what? He does it voluntarily, he doesnt have to. CCP isn't obliged to change anything for him in game. If you love Chribba and his applications so much, donate some money to him and/or his site. Furthermore, most of this thread is double standards. You all *****ed enough about BoB receiving help from a Dev, despite them being about since Beta and helping CCP massively with testing etc, but it's okay for Chribba just because you happen to see a post with 'most peope' posting their support and you mindlessly add your /sign. Luckily for the sane, CCP doens't make its decisions on 'most signed thread of the day'.
Bentula	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:56:00 - [187] There are dozens of things ccp gave people as rewards, starting from snowballlaunchers everybody got cause of freaking christmas, or things like giving out freaking unique ships worth many billions cause of some event. Care to check how all the unique ships in the game came into it? How big of a "rulebreak" is it to make a event where concord puts out a single license for chribba to jump a mining capital into highsec anyway? Following that logic every single event that handed out any kind of reward would have been some kind of rulebreak. And dont give me that crap about favioritism and giving players stuff that other players cant get, i can never get a storm or imperial issue apoc either, my alliance also will never see the amount of events rp alliances have. And last but not least, eve is a cruel harsh world. Not everybody is equal in such a world, people like chribba, sir molle, seleene, tyrrax thorrk and many other players will always stand above you until you archive similar feats, people being unequal is almost a feature of eve. P.S. For all i care chribba could have a personal hotline to oveur, send petitions in per sms, and have kieron haul the veldspar he mines to the station for him in his free time. It still wouldnt affect any other player/alliance in the game, people have problems with ccp siding with a 0.0 entity that tries to take over the whole of 0.0, i doubt sensible people have as many problems with ccp siding with a single carebear in highsec that shows new players how you mine veldspar with a dreadnaught.
Senghir Amarr Deep Space Security	Posted - 2007.09.04 12:00:00 - [188] I guess I'm just lucky CCP disagrees with you.
Siminuria	Posted - 2007.09.04 12:02:00 - [189] I remember why I don't really use the forums, it takes so damn long to read through a single thread! Ok, here goes: 1) CCP said LSAAs would stay (Kaaii's post), doing a u-turn with zero notice is completely unfair to those with an LSAA. 2) Timing is appauling. If they didn't want the rorqual in high sec (a fair assumption given the decision at this exact time to unanchor the arrays), they should have damn well thought of that and made the change in the patch that introduced the rorqual. 3) Assuming that they screwed up and overlooked LSAA when adding the rorqual, they should at the obsolute minimum have given LSAA owners a fair degree of warning ahead of unanchoring their arrays. Or they could have allowed any current jobs to finish and stopped installation of any new jobs, then unanchored the arrays when all jobs were finished. Bottom line: This was exceptionally poorly handled and I would expect better from a group of professionals. I'm not going to add my voice to whether chribba should get special treatment or not, imo there is already far too much debate about that and far too little about the issue as a function of the wider game mechanics on this thread.... However.... Originally by: Frances Ducoir make an event out of this in which the community can decide wether chribba gets the rorqual or not... i.e. rorqual must be escorted from 0.0 through high pirate infested region to amarr. player could decide to defend or attack it! pleaaaaaase. This sounds like a really really fun idea!
Bentula	Posted - 2007.09.04 12:14:00 - [190] Originally by: Senghir I guess I'm just lucky CCP disagrees with you. Yes your so lucky, i cant imagine what horrible thing it would have been for your playing experience if ccp wouldnt have taken this action. Nothing anybody ever does is good enough to warrent special treatment to people like you it seems, everybody is equal, comon lets hand out a few faction BS to some random people nobody heard about before, thats so much better than giving a tiny bit of reward or showing some gratitude to someone who actually did something for eve and its players. I seriously dont understand people, what is this bull**** with people being treated equally? Humans are equal, cats and dogs too i guess, but a company has every damn right rewarding a customer that has done something benifital to them in any way they feel like. And from a ingame perspective concord/amarr empire has every reason to allow a wellknown and respected podpilot like chribba the use of a harmless capital inside their borders, especially if they overlooked him using a military capital inside their homesystem for months.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.04 12:15:00 - [191] Originally by: Bentula And last but not least, eve is a cruel harsh world. Exactly, so no ship for Chribba Double standards So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Vrizuh Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.04 12:16:00 - [192] Bloody hell CCP, what is wrong with you? You leave crap anchored all over high sec belts, but its Chribba's shipyard that you de-anchor? I would not have minded them being disabled at patch. But the rorq has been in these yards from the moment the yard owners got the bps back to system. The owners had legitimate reason to believe that the grandfathering would continue under the existing rules (no pvp). Out of the blue strikes like this harm anyone and everyone with long term hopes for Eve. Let 1 batch get out, then disable. Chribba was excited about a rorq in Amarr since it was on test server. You could have told him at any point in the last few weeks that it wasnt going to happen. He would have understood. But no, its more fun taking something away that someone thought they had.
Kalazar Amarr Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.04 12:45:00 - [193] I say give Chribba his high sec carebearmobile. The guy is a legend in his own lifetime and the amount of stuff he's done for this community is staggering. Oh, and would Captian Internet and the guy with the isk farmer name just give it a rest, if you're just gonna ***** and moan (because it's not YOU that would be getting attention) then most of the people in this thread have no time for you. Go back to smacktalking in local somewhere. All in all, /signed (especially the idea that was put forth earlier in the thread about the Rorqual Chribba Issue ^^). Kal. ----------------------------------------------
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.09.04 13:05:00 - [194] Originally by: Senghir So Chribba mines in high sec? So he hosts a file sharing application. So what? He does it voluntarily, he doesnt have to. CCP isn't obliged to change anything for him in game. If you love Chribba and his applications so much, donate some money to him and/or his site. Furthermore, most of this thread is double standards. You all ***ed enough about BoB receiving help from a Dev, despite them being about since Beta and helping CCP massively with testing etc, but it's okay for Chribba just because you happen to see a post with 'most peope' posting their support and you mindlessly add your /sign. Luckily for the sane, CCP doens't make its decisions on 'most signed thread of the day'. We wouldnt need chribba¦s service if CCP could get its butts up. Fan submission page is broke for years, the movie hosting is poor and the video streams are worse than a ¦70 ** filmed in black&white. But he is doing CCPs work but do they reward him? Nooo. Ship lovers click here
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.04 13:58:00 - [195] Edited by: Darcuese on 04/09/2007 13:59:33 I dont know what should output be like in this scenario and what would be right. But from what i saw i got feeling that even communication between CCP/devs and Chribba wasnt the way you expected after things he has done/doing for community (which improve CCP Public relations -> more satisfied customers). And that itself make me bitter. me, myself and I ------>
Senghir Amarr Deep Space Security	Posted - 2007.09.04 16:52:00 - [196] Can people stop posting to this thread? It's boring. CCP has no doubt registered your *****ing and whining, and you don't get to make corporate decisions for CCP by typing "/sign" either so whether Chribba gets his mining ship or not has absolutely nothing to do with any of you. You've expressed your dislike for the decision, and that's all you can do so please stop posting the same crap.
swoj The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2007.09.04 17:09:00 - [197] Originally by: Bentula There are dozens of things ccp gave people as rewards, starting from snowballlaunchers everybody got cause of freaking christmas, or things like giving out freaking unique ships worth many billions cause of some event. Care to check how all the unique ships in the game came into it? The unique ships came in via the alliance tournaments or some other competition, yes? That being the case, then the prize was available in an event that any could enter (alliance tournaments have 16+ teams competing). They know what is at stake and everyone has the equal opportunity to get it. However in this case, a Rorqual for Cribba, it could be seen as favouritism to give him one because no one else has any opportunity to get it, it would be a gift solely for him. Not that I'm against it, but it would be favouratism of a sort, even if it is backed by most of the community
i take	Posted - 2007.09.04 17:12:00 - [198] Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 03/09/2007 16:22:57 so does the same happen to everyone else with high-sec capital assembly arays, or just you? i know at least one other persoan that has one. kind of funny, he uses an exploit and whine about not being allowed to do so, instead of thanking ccp for not banning him or removing the exploiterble object :P
Clorthos Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.04 17:33:00 - [199] this is not about chibb, though it effects him, this is not about his high sec veldnaught, though it will be the only one. This is about a stance that CCP took last november with the Rev 1 patch notes concerning large ship arrays at high sec pos's. There were a few that per ccp's own statement were grandfathered in, and the reversal of that desicsion without notice has had a devestating blow for a lot of people. At the very least the location of existing logistics and the materials that are now stranded many jumps away from where they can be use. I am honestly sorry that chibb's ore ship is now where he does not want to use it, we all know that he wanted to zoom around high sec belts compressing for newer players and letting them have more fun while he had more fun, but that is never goign to happen now and sadly not due to any fualt of his own but to the corperation that he pays to play in thier game while he is thier best promoter. This is a sad week for us because of you CCP, you have helped squash more hopes and dreams than any gate camp or outpost taking in the blink of an eye. If we truely wanted to be at the whim of a cruel taskmasters whip I think most of us would still be playing Yatzee with our older brothers who cheat. Shame on you CCP for not sticking to your own rules ..... again.
Clorthos Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.04 17:44:00 - [200] Edited by: Clorthos on 04/09/2007 17:44:27 Originally by: i take Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 03/09/2007 16:22:57 so does the same happen to everyone else with high-sec capital assembly arays, or just you? i know at least one other persoan that has one. kind of funny, he uses an exploit and whine about not being allowed to do so, instead of thanking ccp for not banning him or removing the exploiterble object :P First of all they were large ship assymbly arrays, they can produce dreads carriers frieghters as well as the new capital ore ship. Last november they told the community that no more large ship arrays would be allowed to be anchored in high security, and that all existing arrays would be grandfathered in. There were no exploits to be banned about, there were no rules broken. The number of large assymbly arrays were fading due to corps breakign up and not fueling the pos, wardecs on pos owners, and people just up and removing them to go do other things. This was not a rampent issue at all but a handful of cases that while having a veldnaught in amarr is nice, anyone attacking or tanking concord or pvping at all in a capital got a free ride to low sec ship and all. read the background information before you scream for bans and expolits
B0rn2KiLL MicroFunks Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.09.04 17:51:00 - [201] Originally by: CiNi Awww give chribba his hi sec Rorqual you big meanies!! ^^ --- Originally by: Oveur It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game
Zephyrys Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.04 17:52:00 - [202] Originally by: Ishina Fel Back on topic: The EVE public demands a Rorqual for Chribba! Not all the EVE public This wouldn't even be an issue if they had unanchored them a week earlier. Just because he tried to pop out another super cap in empire dosen't entitle him to a gift. Has he done alot for the community.. sure.. of his own free will. Has/does he deserve a reward for his services.. sure.. I believe he just received the EON award.. seems like CCP is thanking him there.. If he had successfully completed the ship.. I could understand letting him keep it.. But as the ship wasn't complete and he is getting it finished and delivered to the system of his choice.. I think he's gotten thanked enough. Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy -------------- Active Miner improvement Threads = 5 Active Miner improvement Threads with Dev Response = 0
Clorthos Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.04 18:13:00 - [203] Originally by: Zephyrys Originally by: Ishina Fel Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy it is a capital ship not a supercapital which would be a titan or mothership, since this only takes about a much minerals as a dread and has 1/30th the cost then this would fall in the capital ship line.
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.09.04 18:30:00 - [204] Originally by: Clorthos Originally by: Zephyrys Originally by: Ishina Fel Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy it is a capital ship not a supercapital which would be a titan or mothership, since this only takes about a much minerals as a dread and has 1/30th the cost then this would fall in the capital ship line. nitpicky symantics ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master
Clorthos Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.04 18:43:00 - [205] Originally by: Illyria Ambri Originally by: Clorthos Originally by: Zephyrys Originally by: Ishina Fel Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy it is a capital ship not a supercapital which would be a titan or mothership, since this only takes about a much minerals as a dread and has 1/30th the cost then this would fall in the capital ship line. nitpicky symantics just a fact, having a revelation in amarr space and having a avatar in amarr space are 2 different things.
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:05:00 - [206] RENAME VELDSPAR CHRIBBITE. but withhold the high sec rorqual. an age has ended..... ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Coconut Joe VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:18:00 - [207]
WrathchildeVOTF	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:21:00 - [208] Originally by: Clorthos Shame on you CCP for not sticking to your own rules ..... again. QFT.
Sacul Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:25:00 - [209] Last time i cleaned up my empire hangars i contracted the man 5 veldspar crystals, i swear to god they were accepted in 2 seconds The Veldnaught will be a second class ship compared to the Rorq.....we cant have Chribba-poo flying in 2nd class ships mining veld now can we? Let Chribba have his Rorq and be done with it he is a frikking legend FFS The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
xeom Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:26:00 - [210] Start putting Google adds all over your site chribba. No reason for you to lose money.I'd actually like to see you pull the service. I doubt CCP will step up,Even if they do it will take them 3+ years to get it up. So yea leave for about 4-8 months.Come back and charge people real money for hosting. I think $1 dollars for ever 4GB of transfer there file gets is fair.At the very least lots of ad's to at least make some profit. --- -Videos- Viciously Delicious
Riddick Valer	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:54:00 - [211] The original decision was to leave existing arrays anchored. CCP is free to change that decision, but owners should be given notice. 1. Re-anchor player arrays and start back up any manufacturing jobs. Give them a definite date a few weeks from now to allow them to change thier business model. or 2. Give the man his Rorqual. Make it some sort of aurora event to work it into the story line. Maybe ORE hired him as their design consultant when producing the ship. and 3. Create a new time of Veldspar. Chribban Ultradense Veldspar. Have it randomly spawn in small ammounts.
lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:57:00 - [212] Originally by: xeom I think $1 dollars for ever 4GB of transfer there file gets is fair.At the very least lots of ad's to at least make some profit. I don't Being 16 and having about ú500 to my name, from the number of hits I got on my last 3 videos, I'd be very very in debt --- Project Mayhem 2
Khanid Honey	Posted - 2007.09.04 20:01:00 - [213] Originally by: xeom Start putting Google adds all over your site chribba. No reason for you to lose money.I'd actually like to see you pull the service. I doubt CCP will step up,Even if they do it will take them 3+ years to get it up. So yea leave for about 4-8 months.Come back and charge people real money for hosting. I think $1 dollars for ever 4GB of transfer there file gets is fair.At the very least lots of ad's to at least make some profit. Except it doesn't cost Chribba a cent in bandwidth as he has it "sponsored".
Zephyrys Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.04 20:06:00 - [214] Chribba must be feeling like the worlds biggest man today.. so many ppl fighting to give him the biggest and best e-stroke of all time... He's got the Veldnaught.. he dosen't need a second "illegal" ship -------------- Active Miner improvement Threads = 5 Active Miner improvement Threads with Dev Response = 0
Trilli Shaw	Posted - 2007.09.04 20:47:00 - [215] Give Chribba the Rorqual! He is a living legend already. Why cant he have an unique ship?? There are a few unique ships out there and no one cries 'unfair'. And I think no one deserves it more than Chribba. Without him Eve wouldn't be the same, actually I go as far as in saying that he has a good part in the commercial success of Eve! Damn it! Do we really need a cold and inhuman game? I want laughter and anger, fear and joy and all the uproar of emotions. Not some cold and lifeless 'we apologize for any inconvenience, but we cannot do anything zap'. Eve lives from all these small and large legends and stories!! And Chribba with his Veldnaught is a HUGE legend.
Elvarien Caldari Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.09.04 22:03:00 - [216] if anyone cribba deserves some rule bending. how about ccp just hold a pole .. those against and those for if more then 10% of the voters is against it he doesnt get it .. I`m sure he`l win with a landslide ;D >--- Witty banter.
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.09.04 22:11:00 - [217] Originally by: Zephyrys Chribba must be feeling like the worlds biggest man today.. so many ppl fighting to give him the biggest and best e-stroke of all time... He's got the Veldnaught.. he dosen't need a second "illegal" ship The first one wasn't illegal in the first place. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD
GandolftheWhite Gallente The Hull Miners Union	Posted - 2007.09.04 22:40:00 - [218] chribba having one in high sec wont hurt anything. FFS they are designed to make people actually mine veldspar level roids in low sec and 0.0. Him strip mining veld in empire and helping newbies etc is not bad for eve. And to the nobodys that are posting in ccps favor on this, who the hell are you? The ones that are posting in favor by vast majority are the vets that have been with this game and have met or know of chribba for a very long time. shame on ccp.
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 22:51:00 - [219] This is a TRAVESTY!!! /emote goes to look up the word travesty in an online dictionary to check he used it right. /emote goes to look up the word dictionary to make sure he was looking in the right book. /emote goes to lookup the word book.... Give him his ship, so the new guys can see what they are going to continue to play eve to pilot.Chribba is your unofficial poster boy, and tbh, you should be paying him for all the work he does for you. Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
BigDave Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.04 23:08:00 - [220] No need to bother reading the entire thread... Chribba easily deserves the ability to build a single Rorq in highsec. /signed Let's review: in addition to his well-known OOG support encouraging a stronger Eve community as a whole, he contributes significantly to Eve's backstory through his ingame actions. He's the dude who -- regardless of how fat his wallet must be already -- spends time mining VELDSPAR in a DREADNAUGHT in an OVERPOPULATED (picked-over) system. This isn't about unfair advantage, it's about character. CCP's rationale for allowing Devs to play the game they control is that it keeps them engaged with the community. That doesn't pass muster in a case like this, when whoever made the initial call clearly doesn't "get it." Kieron, this is your mess to clean up but at least it's an easy fix. ----- Dang, signatures keep getting smaller and smaller, unless you count the bits where ISD colors outside the lines...
Ket Halpak Cold-Fury Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 23:21:00 - [221] /me shakes head After all Chribba has done for the eve comunity CCP could not even give Chribba a highsec rorqual. Give the man his rorqual! _ This is a dev trap sig. It has beer in it. Lets see how many we can catch :) Free Beer, Don't mind the spikes
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.04 23:33:00 - [222] Edited by: Tortun Nahme on 04/09/2007 23:33:27 Originally by: Chribba I was soooo looking forward to having my high-sec Rorqual for my private Veldspar needs an admitted plan that he was going to exploit the lsaa, as those with them were told expressely NOT TO DO Chribba can be held just as accountable for this change as the fellow who DID advertise as selling it for high sec and CCP is right not to cave Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums: Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
Ghaelsto Kakram	Posted - 2007.09.05 00:10:00 - [223] As if some hoodlums weren't going to shoot down the unique high-sec capital for lulz and gigglz?
THEGREAT LOBO Trouble Every Day	Posted - 2007.09.05 00:19:00 - [224] The guy does a hell of a lot for the eve community, Give Chribba what he wants, even ifs its just a nerfed version just for him ---------------------------------------------
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.05 00:35:00 - [225] bumped for some additional front page exposure
Natalia Fachiri Minmatar Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.09.05 00:38:00 - [226] give the man his ship, ccp. and in high sec too.
vile56 Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.09.05 02:40:00 - [227] chribba= need carebearmobile in higsec -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Is in appropriate for the forums. mail us with a link if you want to know why -Kaemonn ([email protected])
Dyntheos The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.05 03:20:00 - [228] He should get a Rorqual as a present from the Empire, to help him keep Amarr Prime's belts clear from Veldspar
Johnny ReeRee The ReeRee Brigade	Posted - 2007.09.05 03:47:00 - [229] After careful consideration, the ReeRee Brigade would like to announce our complete support for Chribba's capital veldspar mining program. We think that clearly he deserves this accomodation in light of his contributions to the Eve community. Moreover, here's an opportunity for a fun event and a little custom world-building. Do the right thing CCP, or face the wrath of the ReeRee Brigade!
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.09.05 03:59:00 - [230] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram As if some hoodlums weren't going to shoot down the unique high-sec capital for lulz and gigglz? While the Rorq isn't a tanking powerhouse, it's not the fragile ship that the freighters are. It has 625k HP just in hull if you are counting a T2 damage control, and at least another 200k in shielding with a good omnitank. Especially in Amarr where Chirbba is(1.0), you'd have to really work at it to flatten a Rorq, especially now that drones aren't an exploitable option to attack ships. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2007.09.05 04:13:00 - [231] ok considering the lsaa unanchoring without warning and without completing the started jobs story I agree that this was not fair to the people including Chribba.
DirtySnipe Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.09.05 07:30:00 - [232] Edited by: DirtySnipe on 05/09/2007 07:30:27 /signed... Give the man the ship... "we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our Island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years" - Sir W. Churchill
DeODokktor Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2007.09.05 08:03:00 - [233] Originally by: Waxau /Signed - Chribba needs his high sec Cap ships. Heck, a couple were given an opus luxury Yacht, for getting married. Thats putting how many billions into the game? Quote: 0 Bilion (give or take 0) Originally by: Waxau Chribba has actually not only attracted many to eve, but made many stay, due to the community feel of eve. And lets face it - Eve would be different without chribba - and not for the better. give Chribba a pink Rorqual! I think Chribba is a great guy. Without chribba there is a likelyhood that someone else would step up and do much of what he does. I do think what he does is great to the community and he adds more to the game than ccp does in some areas. I am not sure I would give Chribba a Rorqual unless I was willing for ccp to give everyone in high-sec who was producing one a Rorq. The largest question one must ask is simply "Why were these unachor'd".. IMHO, LSAA's should be allow'd in High-Sec, and ccp should just put checks on those LSAA's to make sure they cant build ships that dont have permission for highsec. I have built many Carriers/Dreads in highsec and my intention was to build a few Rorquals as well but now (for what ever reason) ccp has changed their mind and removed this from the game. Chribba wasnt the only one who got the shaft here.
DeODokktor Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2007.09.05 08:11:00 - [234] Originally by: Varrakk I take it was Chribba's petition in original post that got annihilated? Is everyone getting their LSAA petitions turned down, even if we was permitted to keep them? Not sure, but petitions arent allow'd so he shoulda just posted the system msg that everyone who had a LSAA got.. There were a few flavors of it depending on jobs being installed. 2007.09.03 17:31 Hi, Your corporation owned a large ship assembly array in high security space. As it is unintended for these arrays to be available in high security, they are now being removed. Your array has been unanchored. We apologise for the inconvenience. The EVE Online Customer Support Team
Daaxe	Posted - 2007.09.05 09:08:00 - [235] I'll pay a merc corp 10b to blow up the Veldnaught
Eve Innovative Eve Innovative Technologies	Posted - 2007.09.05 09:36:00 - [236] Originally by: Shiner BockBeer Dang. I was figuring yours would be the best way to see one in person. Exactly my thoughts too
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.05 10:01:00 - [237] If anyone in EVE deserves a unique ship in-game as a medal for service to the community, it's Chribba. Sit-in protest in Amarr, anyone? Mine Veld and sing "We Shall Overcome".
SiJira	Posted - 2007.09.05 10:34:00 - [238] Originally by: Amarria Black If anyone in EVE deserves a unique ship in-game as a medal for service to the community, it's Chribba. Sit-in protest in Amarr, anyone? Mine Veld and sing "We Shall Overcome". thats what gallente do we will go to ccp headquarters and enslave most of them while burning their most militarized planets ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Sheriff Jones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.05 10:37:00 - [239] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 05/09/2007 10:38:32 Give him some useless ship like that luxury opus or something, but not something like this. As said before: Chribba needs an award, he's done nice things. Yes, it could be a statue or some other thing(as long as it's written in, with a story). Still, off-game isn't in-game rewardable. Meaning, the EON award was already a price for his off-game actions. No matter what you do, who you are, how much cash you dish out or become the admiration of thousands of fanbois...you're not over the rules. That's EVE. So stop talking about a rule bending ship, and give ideas for a reward that is feasible, that has a story behind it, and something that's not rule bending. Once mroe, no matter WHO you are, or what you do, you deserve no special treatment. Rewards, sure, as long as they keep in line. Also have to consider of the possibility of Chribba cutting all servers and selling his character. What then? Does the one dishing out the cash deserve those high sec ships too? So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.05 10:52:00 - [240] I don't think you should have to be an "EVE Celebrity" like Chribba to have the right to ask from CCP to stick to their promises. This is another epic failure on behalf of CCP's customer service. :-/ Let's hope they will at least try to make amends, somehow. It has nothing to do with whether LSAAs were broken or not. isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
Drasked North Face Force	Posted - 2007.09.05 11:38:00 - [241] Originally by: Meepie Originally by: Sheriff Jones Wouldn't the classic line "If you want special presents, go play Hello Kitty Online" be appropriate here? EVE is a cruel and cold place, where you get squat all for free and no good deed goes un-rewarded. So...in regards to this being EVE(as is the consensus of the majority), no ship for Chribba nod Exactly where is your signature hosted? I think i have never seen someone being owned so hard this year.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.09.05 11:46:00 - [242] Originally by: Drasked Originally by: Meepie Originally by: Sheriff Jones Wouldn't the classic line "If you want special presents, go play Hello Kitty Online" be appropriate here? EVE is a cruel and cold place, where you get squat all for free and no good deed goes un-rewarded. So...in regards to this being EVE(as is the consensus of the majority), no ship for Chribba nod Exactly where is your signature hosted? I think i have never seen someone being owned so hard this year. /signed really hard ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Mianda Atira The Jaapjan Order	Posted - 2007.09.05 11:58:00 - [243] Chrib-ba! Chrib-ba! Chrib-ba!
Lord Meriak	Posted - 2007.09.05 12:29:00 - [244] signed we love the veld king :)
Sheriff Jones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.05 12:40:00 - [245] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 05/09/2007 12:40:43 Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Drasked Originally by: Meepie Originally by: Sheriff Jones Wouldn't the classic line "If you want special presents, go play Hello Kitty Online" be appropriate here? EVE is a cruel and cold place, where you get squat all for free and no good deed goes un-rewarded. So...in regards to this being EVE(as is the consensus of the majority), no ship for Chribba nod Exactly where is your signature hosted? I think i have never seen someone being owned so hard this year. /signed really hard Well not really, as it's neither here nor there where my sig is hosted. As said on the other thread. and also as said, it was a joke, as stated with the in there. But logic is not the friend of such trolls. And why would you want to "own" me? Just because i find that particular prize for Chribba as "un-fitting"? Because i appreciate what Chribba has done, but don't want to jump on the "giv ship +1/sign" brigade? Because i've offered more ideas for a prize then most of the +1 in here? You're /signing that i got "owned" is as much "owned" as someone getting suicided in highsec in a shuttle. Unwarranted, unneeded and rather juvenile behaviour. But NO, there's only two sides, with us or against us. You couldn't possibly discuss a matter, oh no. Just like the freakin' "eleet" crew who laugh at people asking for help. Those are the people who ruin the MMOs. So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Drasked North Face Force	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:06:00 - [246] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Well not really, as it's neither here nor there where my sig is hosted. As said on the other thread. and also as said, it was a joke, as stated with the in there. But logic is not the friend of such trolls. And why would you want to "own" me? Just because i find that particular prize for Chribba as "un-fitting"? Because i appreciate what Chribba has done, but don't want to jump on the "giv ship +1/sign" brigade? Because i've offered more ideas for a prize then most of the +1 in here? You're /signing that i got "owned" is as much "owned" as someone getting suicided in highsec in a shuttle. Unwarranted, unneeded and rather juvenile behaviour. But NO, there's only two sides, with us or against us. You couldn't possibly discuss a matter, oh no. Just like the freakin' "eleet" crew who laugh at people asking for help. Those are the people who ruin the MMOs. Yep, he got pwnd
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:11:00 - [247] I don't use chribba's services much. But he should have that Rorq. It adds some flavor to the game and something to envious of. Is it favorism, i guess it is. But giving is good, and he deserves it. And personally I don't mind that he has a dread and rorq in empire. I belive he should have a Titan also, as long as they are only used for the Veldspar fleet. This is a game, and this is a little fun thing for the game. It won't break the game, it won't shift any balances, just make people giggle or go "YIKES, TITAN!!! I'm dead" when he warps to a belt. So, without having added anything new to this thread, I take my leave and search for Chribba's whereabouts. I want to see that Rorq
Khorian Gallente Excidium.	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:11:00 - [248] /signed I'm sure CCP can think of a Player Event that in the end rewards him with a Rorqual.
Nofonno Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:17:00 - [249] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 05/09/2007 10:38:32 Give him some useless ship like that luxury opus or something, but not something like this. As said before: Chribba needs an award, he's done nice things. Yes, it could be a statue or some other thing(as long as it's written in, with a story). Still, off-game isn't in-game rewardable. Meaning, the EON award was already a price for his off-game actions. No matter what you do, who you are, how much cash you dish out or become the admiration of thousands of fanbois...you're not over the rules. That's EVE. So stop talking about a rule bending ship, and give ideas for a reward that is feasible, that has a story behind it, and something that's not rule bending. Once mroe, no matter WHO you are, or what you do, you deserve no special treatment. Rewards, sure, as long as they keep in line. Also have to consider of the possibility of Chribba cutting all servers and selling his character. What then? Does the one dishing out the cash deserve those high sec ships too? I fully support this option. Give Chribba an Opux or a Golden Magnateà Veldspar hewn statue of Rorqual (or his Veldnought) in the mined out belt in Amarr. He's a living legend, no doubt about that. I bow deeply before his accomplishment. However, as Sheriff Jones has said, off-game is not in-game rewardable. A scientist must be an optimist at heart - to have the strength to rally against a chorus of voices saying "it cannot be done".
Sheriff Jones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:21:00 - [250] Originally by: Drasked Yep, he got pwnd Well you just proved what i was aiming at. Trolling for trollings sake, without any discussion or basis. Just "haha i +1 troll you", with only intent to annoy someone else. So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Lightof God Caldari Founder's of the Dominion The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:28:00 - [251] CCP Plese play nice give the man his just deserts after all Chirbba has done he deserves this carebear machiene of veldspar goodness. so /signed for givving the man a Rorqual.
vanBuskirk Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:50:00 - [252] I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, but here goes: Chribba wasn't GIVEN anything. Presumably, he (or his corp) bought the POS and LSAA in Amarr, bought the Rorqual BPO and/or BPOs for all the components, acquired the minerals and/or components for it either by mining or by buying them, etc. etc. etc. All that anyone is asking is that he is allowed to keep his carebearmobile in high-sec; this being by way of a reward for doing many things, at his own RL expense, that CCP should do and doesn't. Personally, I think that similar rewards ought to be afforded to the makers of EVEMon, EVEMeep and similar tools - perhaps selected by popular acclamation? ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:51:00 - [253] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2007 16:22:17 Meh.... Chribba deserves special treatment for what he has done for the community. Two words: Slippery Slope. For every person in eve who knows who you are, there are 10,000 who don't. When these people see your array and want to know from CCP why they can't have one, problems and whining arises. In pure, cold hearted, technical terms, this is long overdue. Shame though :*( Scrapheap Challenge Forums
Piran Eligius	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:52:00 - [254] :Sniff: This feels like when they took our Christmas presents away. Give Chribba his ship, he's done more for the game unpaid, than most anyone else.
Jack Mancetti Minmatar Rennfeuer	Posted - 2007.09.05 14:12:00 - [255] /me vote for Chribba
Valeo Galaem New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit	Posted - 2007.09.05 14:21:00 - [256] My second endorsement. Rabble Rabble! Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption Methods
Daaxe	Posted - 2007.09.05 15:55:00 - [257] Why exactly does chribba deserve it?? What has he done for us????
Redbad Minmatar Tempered Steel Legion	Posted - 2007.09.05 16:22:00 - [258] Originally by: Daaxe Why exactly does chribba deserve it?? What has he done for us???? He gave us a place to store our victories, defeats and most beloved memories from this game. -> EVE-Files Perhaps the community can agree to give Outer World a low-sec constellation and agree that someone that defies or harasses these systems will get KOS to us all. Personally I have no problems with Chribba have a high sec Rorqual. It might even give the newer players a chance to see such a ship. RB join us today!
General StarScream Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.05 16:35:00 - [259] Lol go cry to your mum Cribby
Sheriff Jones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.05 16:36:00 - [260] Originally by: General StarScream Lol go cry to your mum Cribby Kinda ironic(i think checks dictionary) that THIS is exactly the response anyone else would get for this kind of post So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Abye Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.05 16:59:00 - [261] His revelation is mostly good for novelty value, however a rorqual in highsec could be used as permanent ore compressor which could heavily influence the economy. ___
FiNAL FiGHT	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:00:00 - [262] He deserves it. I'd give the man anything he wants. He's obviously not out to 'sploit the game. If there is ONE person that deserves this, it's him.
Grez Minmatar Sybrite Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:02:00 - [263] Give him his ship damnit ---
JamnOne Amarr	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:07:00 - [264] Ok, I am not here to join the give Chribba a Rorq Bandwagon. What I am questioning is the Grandfather clause for those that had LSAA in Hi-Sec. My only question is why didn't they give proper notice for the corps so they can move their stuff and not start any new jobs? Using the grandfather clause - why couldn't CCP allow the ships in production to be completed where they were and then unanchor the LSAA? Ok, that is actually 2 questions. As for the Veldnaught, what system is it in and when is Chribba usually online? I want to see one up close without dying. "The History of every major Galactic Civilization tends to pass through three distinct and recognizable phases, those of Survival, Inquiry and Sophistication, otherwise known as the How, Why and Where
Auron Shadowbane Teeth Of The Hydra R i s e	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:15:00 - [265] give him a skin-change for the veldnought so it looks like a rorqual... if he wants that. unique ror which can fit mining lazors ^^
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:27:00 - [266] Rorqual Chribba Issue ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Vito Parabellum Fivrelde Corp	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:35:00 - [267] I'm gonna have to go with the mayority and ask that the powers that be move that single ship back to Amarr. Thanks. ------ When you say "no one's perfect", Chuck Norris takes this as a personal insult.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:33:00 - [268] Originally by: Ki Tarra Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/09/2007 16:37:51 Originally by: Patch86 He's done more for the web-based portion of the EVE community than the devs! Saddly, this might actually be true. indeed... however, as long as there is the smallest of favouritism, there will be fertile ground for more tinfoil hattery. i'm inclined to say no. but then again, there's lots of other fertile incidents out there so leave this one for last - putting the gist back into logistics
Alpine 69 Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:56:00 - [269] /signed, please ccp, give chribba his carebearmobile Sweet love for the ones that mod my sig <3 From her? You're on. -Rauth
SFShootme Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.05 19:08:00 - [270] i vote chribba for his own private highsec carebear capital! - Tho shall give Life, for Life.
HaulandHaul Gallente Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.09.05 19:08:00 - [271] chribba for president! euhm, i mean, mining capital. snip Modifying another player's signature graphic to insult them is trolling. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
Silver Night Caldari Intergalactic Combined Technologies THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.09.05 19:46:00 - [272] Edited by: Silver Night on 05/09/2007 19:51:33 In what way is giving him a unique statue or ship or something less favoritism than giving him a ship everyone has access to simply in a place that not everyone can get it? While generalities about favoritism being bad, slippery slopes etc are all well and good, this is a single specific case. It is unlikely to the point of impossibility that someone else will contribute as much of their time and money as Chribba has to this community. And with such renown and success. Additionally, he is acknowledged as one of the single most neutral parties in the game. So aside form favoritism attached specifically to him, what tin foil hattery? He isn't in an alliance, or even a corp with more than one person. It favors no party with a real or unbalancing advantage. A single Rorqual isn't going to do anything at all to the economy really. And if it did, they could simply ask him to stop using it. Its not like they are giving it to him in secret. If they do give it to him, it would likely be public, and in the form of a reward for services rendered to the community. Finally, Chribba essentially pays out of his own pocket and gives up his own time to do things that a) someone at CCP should be getting paid to do(ie eve-search. lets face it, its older than and vastly superior to the built in search engine), or that in an ideal world CCP would do themselves (Eve-files, nuff said). So, instead of paying him tens of thousands of dollars (or Pounds, or Euros or whatever) a year as a CCP employee, they can simply grant one small request of his that, despite the nay sayers, would have no dire effect on the game. The problem with the favoritism argument is that it assumes there are others anything like Chribba who would be missing out, just because CCP likes him more. Chribba is unique. Therefore, it isn't favoritism at all. If there were more people like Chribba, they would deserve Rorquals too. Abstract ideals aside, the reality is that Chribba may be both the most valuable and most valued member of the community. Including any one of the Devs. Barring maybe Eris . A Rorqual is less than he deserves, but its all he asks for. Denying it to him is the worst kind of ungratefulness. And that applys to people who use his services and then say he doesn't deserve it. You are literally spending his money and time, and you have the gall to deny him such a truly small thing. Edit: And just to spit in the face of those who would call it spam, /signed. It isn't spam, it is an indication of support for a pillar of our little community. And also distills my wall of text for those who aren't so hot on reading long posts on page ten -------------- Director. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.09.05 19:54:00 - [273] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 05/09/2007 19:55:09 Originally by: Silver Night All the right stuff. This is correct. Oh, by the way, when you want something to be done through a secure third party (and which involves tons of ISK), who is the secure third party? Chribba, right? Make a RP event to escort his Rorqual through 0.0 sec, I guarantee it would be the largest, most node-crashing fleet fight in EvE so far. Also very one-sided Anyway, /signed. Originally by: Tsanse Kinske The second you start equating time spent playing a game with lost time and money is the second you need to ask yourself "Why am I playing?". Seriously
Silver Night Caldari Intergalactic Combined Technologies THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:00:00 - [274] Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 05/09/2007 19:55:09 Originally by: Silver Night All the right stuff. This is correct. Oh, by the way, when you want something to be done through a secure third party (and which involves tons of ISK), who is the secure third party? Chribba, right? Make a RP event to escort his Rorqual through 0.0 sec, I guarantee it would be the largest, most node-crashing fleet fight in EvE so far. Also very one-sided Anyway, /signed. I second this. Let the community decide democratically if it is favoritism. The thing about being the biggest carebear in Eve is, I bet that some of the nastiest pirates and 0.0 PvPers would fight for the chance to eviscerate anyone firing on him. And of course the dirtiest forum *****s. Cause where would they be without Eve search? -------------- Director. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
THEGREAT LOBO Trouble Every Day	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:08:00 - [275] Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 05/09/2007 19:55:09 Originally by: Silver Night All the right stuff. This is correct. Oh, by the way, when you want something to be done through a secure third party (and which involves tons of ISK), who is the secure third party? Chribba, right? Make a RP event to escort his Rorqual through 0.0 sec, I guarantee it would be the largest, most node-crashing fleet fight in EvE so far. Also very one-sided Anyway, /signed. I would love to be at an event like that. Defend Chribba's Rorqual from 0.0 to empire(only the low sec part, im a blinky red) from other people.. would be a lot of fun ---------------------------------------------
Laura Steel Minmatar Independent Interspace Industiers Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:28:00 - [276] Who the hell would attack it? ---- Darn exclamation mark! I have brown hair, green eyes and a nice tan :)
THEGREAT LOBO Trouble Every Day	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:30:00 - [277] I think the devs should have a go, since there the ones that don't want him to have it :P ---------------------------------------------
DaMiGe Amarr Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:37:00 - [278] Chribba deserves a Faction Rorqual called the Chribbanator! Chribba for president ---> My vids <--- latest movie = DaMiGe Control 2
Jinx Denton Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:55:00 - [279] I vote Chribba be awarded for his contributions to the community and the game. Be it a rorqual, a statue or some infinitely large rock of dense veldspar in Amarr. At any rate I wish to see some official thanks from CCP for what this man has done for their game. Going to the fanfest? Check my Fanfest Guide
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.05 21:00:00 - [280] Originally by: Jinx Denton At any rate I wish to see some official thanks from CCP for what this man has done for their game. Like when he recieved the EON award and almost all CCP staff came to congratulate him? So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.09.06 00:46:00 - [281] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Jinx Denton At any rate I wish to see some official thanks from CCP for what this man has done for their game. Like when he recieved the EON award and almost all CCP staff came to congratulate him? The EON awards were crap, and everyone knows that. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2007.09.06 00:55:00 - [282] Originally by: Silver Night In what way is giving him a unique statue or ship or something less favoritism than giving him a ship everyone has access to simply in a place that not everyone can get it? While generalities about favoritism being bad, slippery slopes etc are all well and good, this is a single specific case. It is unlikely to the point of impossibility that someone else will contribute as much of their time and money as Chribba has to this community. And with such renown and success. Additionally, he is acknowledged as one of the single most neutral parties in the game. So aside form favoritism attached specifically to him, what tin foil hattery? He isn't in an alliance, or even a corp with more than one person. It favors no party with a real or unbalancing advantage. A single Rorqual isn't going to do anything at all to the economy really. And if it did, they could simply ask him to stop using it. Its not like they are giving it to him in secret. If they do give it to him, it would likely be public, and in the form of a reward for services rendered to the community. Finally, Chribba essentially pays out of his own pocket and gives up his own time to do things that a) someone at CCP should be getting paid to do(ie eve-search. lets face it, its older than and vastly superior to the built in search engine), or that in an ideal world CCP would do themselves (Eve-files, nuff said). So, instead of paying him tens of thousands of dollars (or Pounds, or Euros or whatever) a year as a CCP employee, they can simply grant one small request of his that, despite the nay sayers, would have no dire effect on the game. The problem with the favoritism argument is that it assumes there are others anything like Chribba who would be missing out, just because CCP likes him more. Chribba is unique. Therefore, it isn't favoritism at all. If there were more people like Chribba, they would deserve Rorquals too. Abstract ideals aside, the reality is that Chribba may be both the most valuable and most valued member of the community. Including any one of the Devs. Barring maybe Eris . A Rorqual is less than he deserves, but its all he asks for. Denying it to him is the worst kind of ungratefulness. And that applys to people who use his services and then say he doesn't deserve it. You are literally spending his money and time, and you have the gall to deny him such a truly small thing. I agree wholeheartedly. CCP, give Chribba his toy, he does allot for the community as a whole, and deserves his Veldmobile as a small reward. Make it a Chribba Issue Rorwhatever it is, and code it so it can only mine Veldspar.
Scott Ryder	Posted - 2007.09.06 01:42:00 - [283] Originally by: Daaxe Why exactly does chribba deserve it?? What has he done for us???? Evesearch? Evefiles? What would eve be without evesearch and evefiles? :o Where would you host the Curzon dax songs? Where would you host your avatars and most importantly where would you host and preserve the pictures taken during battles wich are worth mentioning? He is one of the very very few people that is trusted by the entire comunety and is often chosen as a third party for ms sales and stuff like that. Pardon my english but please think before posting.
Ket Halpak Cold-Fury Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.06 08:21:00 - [284] Edited by: Ket Halpak on 06/09/2007 08:22:23 CCP 4tl on this one, nearly 300 posts, 99% of them saying give chribba the Rorqual, people from every corner of the eve universe and still no reponse. Give Chribba his Rorqual! EDIT: This is the first time I have said CCP 4tl and will more than likely be the only time, I suppor CCP in 99% of things they do, but they have really droped the ball on this one. _ This is a dev trap sig. It has beer in it. Lets see how many we can catch :) Free Beer, Don't mind the spikes
Filthy Pierre Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises	Posted - 2007.09.06 08:33:00 - [285] Chribba I don't know personally, but I've used the services he's created for the community and I know he seems to be one of the most trusted and respected individuals in the game. CCP - give the man a break - he deserves it for all that he has done for us and for you at his own expense out of his love for your game. And, CCP, if you can't see your way clear to that, I'll invoke that terrible curse upon all your male devs that involves Brennevin, roofies and waking up with your underwear on back to front in the morning.... FP
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:27:00 - [286] Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Jinx Denton At any rate I wish to see some official thanks from CCP for what this man has done for their game. Like when he recieved the EON award and almost all CCP staff came to congratulate him? The EON awards were crap, and everyone knows that. So it isn't a matter of saying "thanks for your hard work", but more of "No i want THIS candy." Originally by: Ket Halpak Edited by: Ket Halpak on 06/09/2007 08:22:23 CCP 4tl on this one, nearly 300 posts, 99% of them saying give chribba the Rorqual, people from every corner of the eve universe and still no reponse. Well, in your own words, overexaggeration 4tl. Majority maybe, 99%, never. And mostly people arn't against rewarding chribba, just against giving him a ship where one shouldn't be. Veldspar belt, sure. Statue, sure. A luxury yacht or some sort of "useless" ship, sure. Own freakin station somewhere that only buys veldspar, sure!! Give the man his due respect and reward for dishing out cash. But no rule breaking. Can't see what's so hard to understand about that. Noone even TRIES to understand it, just goes on about "No you hate Chribba! Give him ship!" So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Steve Hawkings	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:32:00 - [287] Whos chribba ? what has he done to deserve this ? (I suspect nothing)
Kirjava Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:45:00 - [288] Originally by: Steve Hawkings Whos chribba ? what has he done to deserve this ? (I suspect nothing) THIS Hope that answers it. To put it into perspective - all those forum signatures? 90% plus are hosted on that website, all the eve applications and pictures linked onto these forums are also hosted there by the millions. He is also the most neutral peep in Eve - this means you can leave a titan beside the man in his pod with skills to fly it and he won't eben show info on it without you asking him to (this IS how motherships sucha s the Nyx and should it happen titans are sold as they cannot dock). What I am wondering right now is "where is Chibbra?". We have all sighned an epic thread and he did start the first page - but wheres he bugered off to I wonder....
WrathchildeVOTF	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:20:00 - [289] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Steve Hawkings Whos chribba ? what has he done to deserve this ? (I suspect nothing) THIS Hope that answers it. To put it into perspective - all those forum signatures? 90% plus are hosted on that website, all the eve applications and pictures linked onto these forums are also hosted there by the millions. He is also the most neutral peep in Eve - this means you can leave a titan beside the man in his pod with skills to fly it and he won't eben show info on it without you asking him to (this IS how motherships sucha s the Nyx and should it happen titans are sold as they cannot dock). What I am wondering right now is "where is Chibbra?". We have all sighned an epic thread and he did start the first page - but wheres he bugered off to I wonder.... Honestly, I think he's doing the smart thing, and staying out of this. It probably embarrasses him a bit also. but I do want to bring up a point mentioned earlier. Chribba was not and is not asking for a gift. From my understanding, he legitimately owned the PoS, the LSAA, and all of the components/minerals, BPO, and commenced production of his own Rorqual. The only "gift" we, the majority of the EVE community, are asking is that CCP has the integrity to honor their own word, and allow this job to complete where it was commissioned at. I find it absolutely disgusting that this situation was handled in the manner it has been. Now it's time that CCP re-interpereted their own intentions, much like they did with the trade forums, and belay their actions in this matter. Or we all have to admit that nothing you are told by CCP, no matter by whom, is worthy of trust, as they may capriciously renege on their word.
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:35:00 - [290] rabble rabble rabble. /signed.
Big Pick Caldari Task Force Ranger	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:44:00 - [291] Chribba never fades. /signed
David Bonesaw Gallente Parental Advisory WhoCares.	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:53:00 - [292] /signed come on CCP give Chribba his Chribba Issued Rorqual or make him CEo of the ORE Corp
Zephyrys Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:54:00 - [293] Originally by: WrathchildeVOTF The only "gift" we, the majority of the EVE community, are asking is that CCP has the integrity to honor their own word, and allow this job to complete where it was commissioned at. CCP ruled that the remaining high sec Arrays would stay so long as the ships they produce went immediatly to lowsec upon completion. Chribba has stated his was intended for high-sec. A flat out disregard for CCP's set rules regarding the construction of capitals in high sec. There were sell orders for Roq's advertising them for high-sec.. so at least 1 of the other arrays ships could have possibly ended up in high sec... where CCP dosen't want them. Solution.. unachor the arrays and send them out of empire where everyone elses is. Don't tell me you are gullible enough to believe that upon seeing 1 Roq in highsec.. that others wouldn't do what they could to sneak more by and not take them to lowsec. CCP decided not to take the chance of these ships having access to high sec. Did this screw up Chribbas plans to use his Roq in high sec, in complete disregard for CCP's rule that they all get moved to lowsec.. yes Will CCP allow him to have the capital in high sec, showing favoritism, in light of all the recent alligations of CCP corruption and favortism towards players.. hell no. Does Chribba do alot for the eve community? Apparently so Does he pay thousands of dollars of his own money to provide that service to the community.. maybe (you don't really think he dosen't get donations and sponsorship do you?) Does he deserve recognition of his works for EVE.. yes.. and he got it.. the EON award. Does he deserve in game freebies and favoritism due to something he does of his own volition outside of game? No Originally by: WrathchildeVOTF I find it absolutely disgusting that this situation was handled in the manner it has been. Now it's time that CCP re-interpereted their own intentions, much like they did with the trade forums, and belay their actions in this matter. Nothing to belay.. its already been handled. Originally by: WrathchildeVOTF Or we all have to admit that nothing you are told by CCP, no matter by whom, is worthy of trust, as they may capriciously renege on their word. Welcome to the land of the MMO company.. where NOTHING is set in stone.. ever. -------------- Active Miner improvement Threads = 5 Active Miner improvement Threads with Dev Response = 0
NIKNAK	Posted - 2007.09.06 14:27:00 - [294] Originally by: Kirjava We have all sighned an epic thread and he did start the first page - but wheres he bugered off to I wonder.... This is an epic thread alright... epic "Whine" thread from someone that's acting like a spoiled child that has had his toy's taken away. Chribba and the other LSAA owner's started to build rorq's in Empire (an exploit incase you didn't already know) and CCP acted quickly in unanchoring the LSAA's and told the owner's in a "confidential GM/DEV message" which Chribba felt the need to display in his original post that they could still have the ship's when the production time had elapsed but they would need to choose a low sec system for the GM/DEV's to spawn the ship's in. Chribba obviously wouldn't accept this so he made this "Whine" thread knowing that it would attract all his fanboi's to it like a plague of locust's to do his whining for him, although I imagine it's falling on deaf ear's in the CCP offices. I don't see where CCP owe him anything ingame for out of game stuff he decided to do out of his own pocket, if anything it's you fanboi's that should reward him by maybe donating to his paypal. Although someone already mentioned he has sponsor's for the site so perhap's it doesn't cost him anything? Anyway a rorq in empire is an "exploit" and if sanctioned by CCP it's just T20 and co all over again and we don't really want that do we? NOT signed!
Clorthos Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.06 17:08:00 - [295] Originally by: NIKNAK Chribba and the other LSAA owner's started to build rorq's in Empire (an exploit incase you didn't already know) and CCP acted quickly in unanchoring the LSAA's and told the owner's in a "confidential GM/DEV message" which Chribba felt the need to display in his original post that they could still have the ship's when the production time had elapsed but they would need to choose a low sec system for the GM/DEV's to spawn the ship's in. It was not an exploit according to the devs and patch notes about the subject, stop calling things that they are not. The mail sent to the CEO's put 100% of the blame on the LSAA owners not the devs making the desecion last november when the patch was set, AND when we asked in mails and petitions about the rules of putting them up. Originally by: NIKNAK Anyway a rorq in empire is an "exploit" and if sanctioned by CCP it's just T20 and co all over again and we don't really want that do we? NOT signed! You do realise that there is a huge difference between spawning tech 2 bpo's for your friends under the guise of a event that no one else could enter, and using game mechanics that were known about and apperently not thought about with the introducton of the new ship? The real solution to this was to not allow them at all, but once they did and when they sanctioned the building of ships in empire they OWE it to the LSAA owners to tell them ahead of time, regardless of what everyone is thinking this is CCP's fualt and not the shipyard owners. And all of the shipyard owners will agree that taking them down is not the issue, but how CCP has gone about it and how they have treated the shipyard owners as the ones that have caused this issue when they operated under thier guidelines. Chibb needs a giant veldspar rock outside the main amarr station that is bm's system wide and will never run out of ore, the ore capital ship in high sec is next to useless.
SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2007.09.06 18:12:00 - [296] Wrangler et. al., I hope you see the mess you've started and make amends quickly, before the mob gets to have thier day with you at fanfest. The man deserves a little leeway considering the chunk of change he lays out for us that YOU don't have to. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
Big Pick Caldari Task Force Ranger	Posted - 2007.09.06 19:13:00 - [297] Originally by: SSgt Sniper Wrangler et. al., I hope you see the mess you've started and make amends quickly, before the mob gets to have thier day with you at fanfest. The man deserves a little leeway considering the chunk of change he lays out for us that YOU don't have to. Yall better start sharpnin' yer pitchforks, looks like theres gonna be a big fuss! Let's git-er-done for Chribba!!! Sharpens ye-olde pitchfork
LogixCraft Gallente Insidious Existence Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.06 21:36:00 - [298] Give the man his ship back, it's not like we are all asking for our own high sec capital. He deserves it, I remeber when I was a noob to eve and I heard the stories of the veldnaught, it made me strive for low-sec/0.0 to get my own Moros which I'm attempting to afford now :P Add more inspiration to eve, let the Chribba fleet live! Rorqual in high-sec, let it happen, let the stories continue! ----------------------------- Why don't the mods love my sig!?! Show some love: (<-- see that, it means you can mod my sig and show love, or sell your soul for a cookie.)
Lord Dynastron Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.09.07 00:29:00 - [299] Give him his Rorq in the system in which is was built. The mob has spoken... and continues to speak.
zacuis Great Big Research	Posted - 2007.09.07 00:55:00 - [300] u big meanies signed
Sorum Daemoth Insidious Existence Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 00:58:00 - [301] let the man live! let him have his high-sec rorq. its not like everybody is gonna complain for one if he gets it, he deserves it, make one exception, dont be bullys
Cougem Divine Retribution	Posted - 2007.09.07 03:58:00 - [302] Well that's going to greatly reduce any chances in dividends from my OWE shares ;/
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 04:32:00 - [303] Originally by: Big Pick Originally by: SSgt Sniper Wrangler et. al., I hope you see the mess you've started and make amends quickly, before the mob gets to have thier day with you at fanfest. The man deserves a little leeway considering the chunk of change he lays out for us that YOU don't have to. Yall better start sharpnin' yer pitchforks, looks like theres gonna be a big fuss! Let's git-er-done for Chribba!!! Sharpens ye-olde pitchfork Torches! Get yer red-hot torches here! Pitchforks, five dollars! (No, rly, Chribba - Veldqual = )
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:02:00 - [304] Derek wants Chribba to have a Rorqual. Defy Derek at your own peril --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:46:00 - [305] for all the reasons repeatedly stated in the thread... /signed __________________________________
St Clair Caldari North Star Networks	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:04:00 - [306] /signed in the name of Kladdkaka
Jezze Flay	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:18:00 - [307] Originally by: Zephyrys Will CCP allow him to have the capital in high sec, showing favoritism, in light of all the recent alligations of CCP corruption and favortism towards players.. hell no. Does he deserve recognition of his works for EVE.. yes.. and he got it.. the EON award. Does he deserve in game freebies and favoritism due to something he does of his own volition outside of game? No Bingo! we have a winner! This is a company who just went through a major scandal which was fueled by many of YOU people here on the forums. Now you are asking the same company you damned to do the same sort of rule bending for someone you like...lol Can you say hypocrisy? The T20 thing is reason enough to why you will never see this guy get his ship. It doesn't matter how many lemmings go /signed Oh and a hundred or so people posting in this thread with both their main and their alts does NOT represent the 20,000 plus sized community so stop saying that you do.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:26:00 - [308] Originally by: Jezze Flay Bingo! we have a winner! This is a company who just went through a major scandal which was fueled by many of YOU people here on the forums. Now you are asking the same company you damned to do the same sort of rule bending for someone you like...lol Can you say hypocrisy? The T20 thing is reason enough to why you will never see this guy get his ship. It doesn't matter how many lemmings go /signed Oh and a hundred or so people posting in this thread with both their main and their alts does NOT represent the 20,000 plus sized community so stop saying that you do. Already been addressed and discounted. Giving T2 blueprints to your buddies on one side of an active conflict creates a fundamental imbalance in the game itself. Giving a neutral party a trophy ship that has little to no impact on the game creates no such imbalance.
Jezze Flay	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:34:00 - [309] Edited by: Jezze Flay on 07/09/2007 10:37:25 Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jezze Flay Bingo! we have a winner! This is a company who just went through a major scandal which was fueled by many of YOU people here on the forums. Now you are asking the same company you damned to do the same sort of rule bending for someone you like...lol Can you say hypocrisy? The T20 thing is reason enough to why you will never see this guy get his ship. It doesn't matter how many lemmings go /signed Oh and a hundred or so people posting in this thread with both their main and their alts does NOT represent the 20,000 plus sized community so stop saying that you do. Already been addressed and discounted. Giving T2 blueprints to your buddies on one side of an active conflict creates a fundamental imbalance in the game itself. Giving a neutral party a trophy ship that has little to no impact on the game creates no such imbalance. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:08:00 - [310] I'm actually leaning towards just giving him the damn thing so this thread would die already My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Ishara Da'Ahn Amarr Emanation Of Malevolent Outcries	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:14:00 - [311] Edited by: Ishara Da''Ahn on 07/09/2007 11:16:54 Originally by: Jezze Flay Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jezze Flay stuff. more stuff. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted. And that one person would be flamed from one end of the EVE universe to the other. Besides, if CCP would play it right, the whole event could be positive PR. You even have BoB agreeing with IAC agreeing Outbreak agreeing with Goonswarm agreeing with ex-ASCN...... and that is just skimming through the thread. How bad could it be if rivals agree?
Xeron Silverblade Esthar Industries Tres Viri	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:57:00 - [312] /signed give chribba his rorqual. he deserves it.
Jezze Flay	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:14:00 - [313] Edited by: Jezze Flay on 07/09/2007 12:15:14 Originally by: Ishara Da'Ahn Edited by: Ishara Da''Ahn on 07/09/2007 11:16:54 Originally by: Jezze Flay Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jezze Flay stuff. more stuff. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted. And that one person would be flamed from one end of the EVE universe to the other. Besides, if CCP would play it right, the whole event could be positive PR. You even have BoB agreeing with IAC agreeing Outbreak agreeing with Goonswarm agreeing with ex-ASCN...... and that is just skimming through the thread. How bad could it be if rivals agree? What makes you think that "one person" would be a current EvE subscriber? All it would take is one ex-player or EvE hater who got ****ed off at the game or CCP for some reason hearing about it and spouting off on MMORPG.com's forums {or any forums} starting rumors and propaganda about how "CCP is breaking their own rules again." You don't think that hacker dude who uncovered the T2O situation wouldn't have a field day with this? A lot of people listen to that guy too. CCP understands this and it is why this guy isn't getting the ship. It is nothing personal.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 14:51:00 - [314] Originally by: Jezze Flay Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted. The difference being above-board activities and below-board activities. T20 spawning BPOs for his buddies on the DL was a subversive act, and thusly affected perceptions of CCP negatively. If CCP were to publicly state, "This person has done incredible things for the community of EVE. His selfless dedication has made this game more than the sum of its parts, and we owe him a great debt of gratitude. In recognition for his actions, we're giving him <insert name here>, a special edition Rorqual which only he will own. (alternately substitute a regular Rorqual)," then players and nonplayers alike will see that CCP is loyal to, and rewards, those who do good to further this game. Throw the PR guys at it to spread more information to the uninformed about the terrible travesty of such an upstanding EVE citizen being stripped of his one desire, the outcry of the community, the desire of the devteam to do what's right. Do it out in the open where it'll be seen as a good thing, and spin, spin, spin. You obviously don't have a marketing degree, correct? No worries, I do, and I'm for hire.
Isakova	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:01:00 - [315] Edited by: Isakova on 07/09/2007 15:01:59 Originally by: Amarria Black You obviously don't have a marketing degree, correct? No worries, I do, and I'm for hire. With logic like that it's easy to see why. The fact is a small handful of nay-sayers are more than enough to sully a companies name. What about all the other players who run fan sites? It may not be the same circumstances, but why not reward everyone with customised ships? I am not suggesting this and while I do agree it'd be nice for them to reward someone who gives so much to their community people are always going to complain when someone else is rewarded. The best thing CCP can do is steer well clear of this thread. No-one is going to quit in protest of him not getting his ship and probably neither will he. People wont stop signing up because people on the forums are complaining about it. While it has many posibilities to make CCP look like a good, supportive company it opens itself up to many more opportunities to be dragged through the mud. Again.
Draycar Hazaran Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:17:00 - [316] /signed Chribba deserves it!
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:21:00 - [317] Ban Chribba for attempting to circumvent the stipulations laid out when they were allowed to keep their high sec lsaa's Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums: Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
Threv Echandari Caldari Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:25:00 - [318] Originally by: Isakova Edited by: Isakova on 07/09/2007 15:01:59 The fact is a small handful of nay-sayers are more than enough to sully a companies name. What about all the other players who run fan sites? It may not be the same circumstances, but why not reward everyone with customised ships? I am not suggesting this and while I do agree it'd be nice for them to reward someone who gives so much to their community people are always going to complain when someone else is rewarded. The best thing CCP can do is steer well clear of this thread. No-one is going to quit in protest of him not getting his ship and probably neither will he. People wont stop signing up because people on the forums are complaining about it. While it has many posibilities to make CCP look like a good, supportive company it opens itself up to many more opportunities to be dragged through the mud. Again. Reality Rears its Ugly Head but Frankly I don't care GIVE CHRIBBA HIS CAREBEAR-MOBILE! If anyone deserves it its him. You should have Grandfathered his LSAA and the Fruits thereof. You big Meanies...
Isakova	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:27:00 - [319] Originally by: Threv Echandari Originally by: Isakova Reality Rears its Ugly Head but Frankly I don't care GIVE CHRIBBA HIS CAREBEAR-MOBILE! If anyone deserves it its him. You should have Grandfathered his LSAA and the Fruits thereof. You big Meanies... Well from a personal POV I think it'd be a fun event like some have outlined in this thread, just someone raised the "logical" point so I thought I'd pipe up.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:57:00 - [320] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jezze Flay Doesn't matter the circumstances. Rules are rules and CCP already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once. Even though in this case it would be a "kind gesture" on their part, all it will take is one person crying about it afterwards and here comes public fire storm # 2. It is all about perception in business and they already did enough in the past to damage their image. You obviously do not have a Business or Marketing degree correct? Your opinion is now being addressed and discounted. The difference being above-board activities and below-board activities. T20 spawning BPOs for his buddies on the DL was a subversive act, and thusly affected perceptions of CCP negatively. If CCP were to publicly state, "This person has done incredible things for the community of EVE. His selfless dedication has made this game more than the sum of its parts, and we owe him a great debt of gratitude. In recognition for his actions, we're giving him <insert name here>, a special edition Rorqual which only he will own. (alternately substitute a regular Rorqual)," then players and nonplayers alike will see that CCP is loyal to, and rewards, those who do good to further this game. Throw the PR guys at it to spread more information to the uninformed about the terrible travesty of such an upstanding EVE citizen being stripped of his one desire, the outcry of the community, the desire of the devteam to do what's right. Do it out in the open where it'll be seen as a good thing, and spin, spin, spin. You obviously don't have a marketing degree, correct? No worries, I do, and I'm for hire. After reading that, it doesn't surprise me that you are unemployed. I know it is hard to comprehend this since you probably live on these forums but there are actually sites out there which are still discussing the T20 Scandal. These are sites like mmorpg.com where players rank and discuss games. It is also a good place for people with an agenda {or grudge} to start a nasty smear campaign. I know that there are people on mmorpg.com who say bad things about EvE simply because they hated seeing it ranked as the # 1 game for so long. CCP simply isn't going to give those people any possible ammunition to start something like that especially after the crap they went through a few months ago. No matter how good intentioned and "open to the public" this gesture might be, anything can be twisted and misrepresented and CCP really cannot defend themselves on that front except to come out and make official statements periodically. It just isn't worth the risk and the can lose much more than they gain. Therefore, this crusade and thread is a loser....sorry.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:37:00 - [321] Originally by: Hasak Rain After reading that, it doesn't surprise me that you are unemployed. Originally by: Isakova With logic like that it's easy to see why. Ye gods, you're quite quick to jump to ad hominems. I never said that I was unemployed, merely for hire. Tu comprende work for the highest bidder? Originally by: Isakova The fact is a small handful of nay-sayers are more than enough to sully a companies name. What about all the other players who run fan sites? It may not be the same circumstances, but why not reward everyone with customised ships? I am not suggesting this and while I do agree it'd be nice for them to reward someone who gives so much to their community people are always going to complain when someone else is rewarded. The best thing CCP can do is steer well clear of this thread. No-one is going to quit in protest of him not getting his ship and probably neither will he. People wont stop signing up because people on the forums are complaining about it. While it has many posibilities to make CCP look like a good, supportive company it opens itself up to many more opportunities to be dragged through the mud. Again. Really, you're right. A "sensible" corporation will do nothing that potentially exposes itself to criticism. However, I would hope for more from CCP. Considering its standing position that CCP marches to its own drum and that popularity be damned, a laudable extension of this would be singling out and rewarding the exceptional regardless of the potential fallout from people who are already primed to be nay-sayers. Or would you rather that CCP dumb down EVE for the masses? Originally by: Hasak Rain I know it is hard to comprehend this since you probably live on these forums but there are actually sites out there which are still discussing the T20 Scandal. These are sites like mmorpg.com where players rank and discuss games. It is also a good place for people with an agenda {or grudge} to start a nasty smear campaign. I know that there are people on mmorpg.com who say bad things about EvE simply because they hated seeing it ranked as the # 1 game for so long. CCP simply isn't going to give those people any possible ammunition to start something like that especially after the crap they went through a few months ago. No matter how good intentioned and "open to the public" this gesture might be, anything can be twisted and misrepresented and CCP really cannot defend themselves on that front except to come out and make official statements periodically. It just isn't worth the risk and the can lose much more than they gain. Therefore, this crusade and thread is a loser....sorry. Edit: btw: go check out the thread above this one titled "corruption all over the place" as an example to how easy it is to start rumors and conspiracy theories. Now imagine that thread on another site where raging fanboys aren't there to defend CCP. A site where people go to help them decide which game they want to subscribe to. Getting the point yet?....naw probably not. MMORPG.com is a joke. Going there for MMO news is like seeking the same at gamefaqs.com, or going to freerepublic.com for balanced political debate. As to rumors, and your example thread: should tinfoil hatters and the 1% who are hell-bent on ruining everything dictate the future course of CCP's actions? Should that which is right, or that which is best for the community at-large, be subverted by those whose goal is the defamation of those who seek to better this game? How does performing a disservice to one who gives selflessly to this community do anything other than further besmirch the character of CCP? Do right actions not justify themselves?
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:52:00 - [322] /signed /signed /signed!! Let the man have his toys! -=^=-
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:55:00 - [323] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Hasak Rain After reading that, it doesn't surprise me that you are unemployed. Originally by: Isakova With logic like that it's easy to see why. Ye gods, you're quite quick to jump to ad hominems. I never said that I was unemployed, merely for hire. Tu comprende work for the highest bidder? You are correct.. you never said you were unemployed...you never said you were employed either.. You still haven't said either.. therefore you are unemployed till further notice. :) ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 18:06:00 - [324] Originally by: Illyria Ambri You are correct.. you never said you were unemployed...you never said you were employed either.. You still haven't said either.. therefore you are unemployed till further notice. :) Touche. ^_^ I hereby declare that I am currently gainfully and legally employed.
Irob Urore Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.07 18:10:00 - [325] geez get out of high sec already chribba. Your a 03 player. Stop mooching off CCP's goodwill. I mean thanks for the websites, but as has been posted no need to act like a spoilt child.

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