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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.09.04 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/09/2007 10:06:00
 Originally by: Meepie
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Wouldn't the classic line "If you want special presents, go play Hello Kitty Online" be appropriate here? 
EVE is a cruel and cold place, where you get squat all for free and no good deed goes un-rewarded. So...in regards to this being EVE(as is the consensus of the majority), no ship for Chribba *nod*
Exactly where is your signature hosted?
*points at other thread*
Go read that, then come back here to flame. Thank you.
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Gorefacer
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:04:00 -
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Chribba's a great guy I 'm sure. Honestly I never used EVE files and never worried about it dropping off the face of the Earth. If CCP wants to reward Chribba they can give him free subscriptions. Changing the rules of the game for one person is unacceptable.
The devs created the game, yet there was a huge outcry when it was perceived they helped a particular group of players. According to people's logic in this thread (contribution to EVE equaling allowed special in-game treatment), the devs should be able to give and do anything to anyone. If the devs aren't allowed to do this, neither is Chribba. It's the principal of the matter for the integrity of the game, I'm sure Chribba will be fine playing the game the same way everyone else has to.
In short, with nothing personal against Chribba, I vote no.
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Khanid Honey
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Meepie
Exactly where is your signature hosted?
You don't want to know where Chribba has his servers hosted for free. 
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:44:00 -
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The first post even got edited by a mod. You should be ashamed of yourself for doing this to chribba.
To the GM that started all this: YOU SUCK.
To the mod that edited the post: YOU SUCK.
CCP for not rewarding chribba for a service thats way better than yours: YOU SUCK EVEN MORE.
And you call yourself a caring company, you¦re lame tbh.
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:47:00 -
[185]
Give it to the man.
That is all.
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Senghir
Amarr
Deep Space Security
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:53:00 -
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So Chribba mines in high sec? So he hosts a file sharing application. So what? He does it voluntarily, he doesnt have to. CCP isn't obliged to change anything for him in game. If you love Chribba and his applications so much, donate some money to him and/or his site.
Furthermore, most of this thread is double standards. You all *****ed enough about BoB receiving help from a Dev, despite them being about since Beta and helping CCP massively with testing etc, but it's okay for Chribba just because you happen to see a post with 'most peope' posting their support and you mindlessly add your /sign. Luckily for the sane, CCP doens't make its decisions on 'most signed thread of the day'.
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Bentula
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:56:00 -
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There are dozens of things ccp gave people as rewards, starting from snowballlaunchers everybody got cause of freaking christmas, or things like giving out freaking unique ships worth many billions cause of some event. Care to check how all the unique ships in the game came into it?
How big of a "rulebreak" is it to make a event where concord puts out a single license for chribba to jump a mining capital into highsec anyway? Following that logic every single event that handed out any kind of reward would have been some kind of rulebreak.
And dont give me that crap about favioritism and giving players stuff that other players cant get, i can never get a storm or imperial issue apoc either, my alliance also will never see the amount of events rp alliances have.
And last but not least, eve is a cruel harsh world. Not everybody is equal in such a world, people like chribba, sir molle, seleene, tyrrax thorrk and many other players will always stand above you until you archive similar feats, people being unequal is almost a feature of eve.
P.S. For all i care chribba could have a personal hotline to oveur, send petitions in per sms, and have kieron haul the veldspar he mines to the station for him in his free time. It still wouldnt affect any other player/alliance in the game, people have problems with ccp siding with a 0.0 entity that tries to take over the whole of 0.0, i doubt sensible people have as many problems with ccp siding with a single carebear in highsec that shows new players how you mine veldspar with a dreadnaught.
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Senghir
Amarr
Deep Space Security
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:00:00 -
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I guess I'm just lucky CCP disagrees with you.
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Siminuria
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:02:00 -
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I remember why I don't really use the forums, it takes so damn long to read through a single thread!
Ok, here goes:
1) CCP said LSAAs would stay (Kaaii's post), doing a u-turn with zero notice is completely unfair to those with an LSAA.
2) Timing is appauling. If they didn't want the rorqual in high sec (a fair assumption given the decision at this exact time to unanchor the arrays), they should have damn well thought of that and made the change in the patch that introduced the rorqual.
3) Assuming that they screwed up and overlooked LSAA when adding the rorqual, they should at the obsolute minimum have given LSAA owners a fair degree of warning ahead of unanchoring their arrays. Or they could have allowed any current jobs to finish and stopped installation of any new jobs, then unanchored the arrays when all jobs were finished.
Bottom line:
This was exceptionally poorly handled and I would expect better from a group of professionals.
I'm not going to add my voice to whether chribba should get special treatment or not, imo there is already far too much debate about that and far too little about the issue as a function of the wider game mechanics on this thread....
However....
Originally by: Frances Ducoir
make an event out of this in which the community can decide wether chribba gets the rorqual or not...
i.e. rorqual must be escorted from 0.0 through high pirate infested region to amarr.
player could decide to defend or attack it!
pleaaaaaase.
This sounds like a really really fun idea!
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Bentula
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Senghir
I guess I'm just lucky CCP disagrees with you.
Yes your so lucky, i cant imagine what horrible thing it would have been for your playing experience if ccp wouldnt have taken this action. Nothing anybody ever does is good enough to warrent special treatment to people like you it seems, everybody is equal, comon lets hand out a few faction BS to some random people nobody heard about before, thats so much better than giving a tiny bit of reward or showing some gratitude to someone who actually did something for eve and its players.
I seriously dont understand people, what is this bull**** with people being treated equally? Humans are equal, cats and dogs too i guess, but a company has every damn right rewarding a customer that has done something benifital to them in any way they feel like. And from a ingame perspective concord/amarr empire has every reason to allow a wellknown and respected podpilot like chribba the use of a harmless capital inside their borders, especially if they overlooked him using a military capital inside their homesystem for months.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bentula
And last but not least, eve is a cruel harsh world.
Exactly, so no ship for Chribba
Double standards
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Vrizuh
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:16:00 -
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Bloody hell CCP, what is wrong with you? You leave crap anchored all over high sec belts, but its Chribba's shipyard that you de-anchor?
I would not have minded them being disabled at patch. But the rorq has been in these yards from the moment the yard owners got the bps back to system. The owners had legitimate reason to believe that the grandfathering would continue under the existing rules (no pvp). Out of the blue strikes like this harm anyone and everyone with long term hopes for Eve.
Let 1 batch get out, then disable. Chribba was excited about a rorq in Amarr since it was on test server. You could have told him at any point in the last few weeks that it wasnt going to happen. He would have understood. But no, its more fun taking something away that someone thought they had.
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Kalazar
Amarr
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:45:00 -
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I say give Chribba his high sec carebearmobile. The guy is a legend in his own lifetime and the amount of stuff he's done for this community is staggering.
Oh, and would Captian Internet and the guy with the isk farmer name just give it a rest, if you're just gonna ***** and moan (because it's not YOU that would be getting attention) then most of the people in this thread have no time for you. Go back to smacktalking in local somewhere.
All in all, /signed (especially the idea that was put forth earlier in the thread about the Rorqual Chribba Issue ^^).
Kal.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:05:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Senghir
So Chribba mines in high sec? So he hosts a file sharing application. So what? He does it voluntarily, he doesnt have to. CCP isn't obliged to change anything for him in game. If you love Chribba and his applications so much, donate some money to him and/or his site.
Furthermore, most of this thread is double standards. You all *****ed enough about BoB receiving help from a Dev, despite them being about since Beta and helping CCP massively with testing etc, but it's okay for Chribba just because you happen to see a post with 'most peope' posting their support and you mindlessly add your /sign. Luckily for the sane, CCP doens't make its decisions on 'most signed thread of the day'.
We wouldnt need chribba¦s service if CCP could get its butts up. Fan submission page is broke for years, the movie hosting is poor and the video streams are worse than a ¦70 **** filmed in black&white. But he is doing CCPs work but do they reward him? Nooo.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 04/09/2007 13:59:33
I dont know what should output be like in this scenario and what would be right.
But from what i saw i got feeling that even communication between CCP/devs and Chribba wasnt the way you expected after things he has done/doing for community (which improve CCP Public relations -> more satisfied customers).
And that itself make me bitter.
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Senghir
Amarr
Deep Space Security
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Posted - 2007.09.04 16:52:00 -
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Can people stop posting to this thread? It's boring. CCP has no doubt registered your *****ing and whining, and you don't get to make corporate decisions for CCP by typing "/sign" either so whether Chribba gets his mining ship or not has absolutely nothing to do with any of you. You've expressed your dislike for the decision, and that's all you can do so please stop posting the same crap.
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swoj
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bentula
There are dozens of things ccp gave people as rewards, starting from snowballlaunchers everybody got cause of freaking christmas, or things like giving out freaking unique ships worth many billions cause of some event. Care to check how all the unique ships in the game came into it?
The unique ships came in via the alliance tournaments or some other competition, yes?
That being the case, then the prize was available in an event that any could enter (alliance tournaments have 16+ teams competing). They know what is at stake and everyone has the equal opportunity to get it. However in this case, a Rorqual for Cribba, it could be seen as favouritism to give him one because no one else has any opportunity to get it, it would be a gift solely for him.
Not that I'm against it, but it would be favouratism of a sort, even if it is backed by most of the community
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i take
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 03/09/2007 16:22:57
so does the same happen to everyone else with high-sec capital assembly arays, or just you?
i know at least one other persoan that has one.
kind of funny, he uses an exploit and whine about not being allowed to do so, instead of thanking ccp for not banning him or removing the exploiterble object :P
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Clorthos
Gallente
Tau Ceti Global Production
Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:33:00 -
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this is not about chibb, though it effects him, this is not about his high sec veldnaught, though it will be the only one. This is about a stance that CCP took last november with the Rev 1 patch notes concerning large ship arrays at high sec pos's.
There were a few that per ccp's own statement were grandfathered in, and the reversal of that desicsion without notice has had a devestating blow for a lot of people. At the very least the location of existing logistics and the materials that are now stranded many jumps away from where they can be use.
I am honestly sorry that chibb's ore ship is now where he does not want to use it, we all know that he wanted to zoom around high sec belts compressing for newer players and letting them have more fun while he had more fun, but that is never goign to happen now and sadly not due to any fualt of his own but to the corperation that he pays to play in thier game while he is thier best promoter.
This is a sad week for us because of you CCP, you have helped squash more hopes and dreams than any gate camp or outpost taking in the blink of an eye. If we truely wanted to be at the whim of a cruel taskmasters whip I think most of us would still be playing Yatzee with our older brothers who cheat.
Shame on you CCP for not sticking to your own rules ..... again.
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Clorthos
Gallente
Tau Ceti Global Production
Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Clorthos on 04/09/2007 17:44:27
Originally by: i take
Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 03/09/2007 16:22:57
so does the same happen to everyone else with high-sec capital assembly arays, or just you?
i know at least one other persoan that has one.
kind of funny, he uses an exploit and whine about not being allowed to do so, instead of thanking ccp for not banning him or removing the exploiterble object :P
First of all they were large ship assymbly arrays, they can produce dreads carriers frieghters as well as the new capital ore ship. Last november they told the community that no more large ship arrays would be allowed to be anchored in high security, and that all existing arrays would be grandfathered in. There were no exploits to be banned about, there were no rules broken.
The number of large assymbly arrays were fading due to corps breakign up and not fueling the pos, wardecs on pos owners, and people just up and removing them to go do other things. This was not a rampent issue at all but a handful of cases that while having a veldnaught in amarr is nice, anyone attacking or tanking concord or pvping at all in a capital got a free ride to low sec ship and all.
read the background information before you scream for bans and expolits
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B0rn2KiLL
MicroFunks
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: CiNi
Awww give chribba his hi sec Rorqual you big meanies!!
^^
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Originally by: Oveur
It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game
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Zephyrys
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ishina Fel
Back on topic: The EVE public demands a Rorqual for Chribba!
Not all the EVE public
This wouldn't even be an issue if they had unanchored them a week earlier.
Just because he tried to pop out another super cap in empire dosen't entitle him to a gift.
Has he done alot for the community.. sure.. of his own free will.
Has/does he deserve a reward for his services.. sure.. I believe he just received the EON award.. seems like CCP is thanking him there..
If he had successfully completed the ship.. I could understand letting him keep it.. But as the ship wasn't complete and he is getting it finished and delivered to the system of his choice.. I think he's gotten thanked enough.
Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy
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Clorthos
Gallente
Tau Ceti Global Production
Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyrys
Originally by: Ishina Fel
Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy
it is a capital ship not a supercapital which would be a titan or mothership, since this only takes about a much minerals as a dread and has 1/30th the cost then this would fall in the capital ship line.
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Clorthos
Originally by: Zephyrys
Originally by: Ishina Fel
Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy
it is a capital ship not a supercapital which would be a titan or mothership, since this only takes about a much minerals as a dread and has 1/30th the cost then this would fall in the capital ship line.
nitpicky symantics
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Clorthos
Gallente
Tau Ceti Global Production
Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Originally by: Clorthos
Originally by: Zephyrys
Originally by: Ishina Fel
Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy
it is a capital ship not a supercapital which would be a titan or mothership, since this only takes about a much minerals as a dread and has 1/30th the cost then this would fall in the capital ship line.
nitpicky symantics
just a fact, having a revelation in amarr space and having a avatar in amarr space are 2 different things.
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Cornucopian
Gallente
Dutch Omega
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:05:00 -
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RENAME VELDSPAR CHRIBBITE. but withhold the high sec rorqual.
an age has ended.....
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"post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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Coconut Joe
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:18:00 -
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WrathchildeVOTF
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Clorthos
Shame on you CCP for not sticking to your own rules ..... again.
QFT.
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:25:00 -
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Last time i cleaned up my empire hangars i contracted the man 5 veldspar crystals, i swear to god they were accepted in 2 seconds
The Veldnaught will be a second class ship compared to the Rorq.....we cant have Chribba-poo flying in 2nd class ships mining veld now can we?
Let Chribba have his Rorq and be done with it he is a frikking legend FFS
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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xeom
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:26:00 -
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Start putting Google adds all over your site chribba.
No reason for you to lose money.I'd actually like to see you pull the service.
I doubt CCP will step up,Even if they do it will take them 3+ years to get it up.
So yea leave for about 4-8 months.Come back and charge people real money for hosting.
I think $1 dollars for ever 4GB of transfer there file gets is fair.At the very least
lots of ad's to at least make some profit.
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