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Gentle Glide
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Gentle Glide on 07/09/2007 17:15:27 Wtf happened? Looks like UNL threw the match. Anyone know what is going on?
HE JUST REFERENCED MY THREAD ON EVETV I AM MADE OF W1N -------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP t20 So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:10:00 -
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Either they forgot to pack Drones, which will get them more lulz than Goonswarm, or BoB paid them to throw the fight.
Enjoy your ISK, United Legion.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.
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Norwood Franskly
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:10:00 -
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that was weak wtf happened...
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Ladel Teravada
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:10:00 -
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My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you. Commodore Ladel Teravada Executive Officer, Fleet Operations
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Gentle Glide
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:10:00 -
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I demand a reason why they didnt do ANYTHING. -------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP t20 So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gentle Glide Looks like UNL threw the match.
Exactly the thought that went through my head - as paranoid as it sounds.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:11:00 -
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Vladimir Ramanov
Amarr Omiracon Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:11:00 -
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I hope they threw the match, damn embarrassing if they didn't
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:12:00 -
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I only see 3 possible reasons for this. 1. Their team captain loaded drones that nobody could use??? 2. They really suck 3. They threw the match.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:12:00 -
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Good going BoB on an empty Tournament win.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:13:00 -
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Proberbly got yammed and relocking, dropping drones would only cause auto aggro on random targets and not enough combined damage to beat their tank. Getting their drones killed achieving nothing.
Proberbly..
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Proberbly got yammed and relocking, dropping drones would only cause auto aggro on random targets and not enough combined damage to beat their tank. Getting their drones killed achieving nothing.
Proberbly..
Doing nothing achieved nothing.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.
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Khorian
Gallente Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:13:00 -
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They maybe wanted to get in close range (past Sensord Damp range) and unload their drones on a single target instead of spread drone aggro from the start on multiple ships, wich would be repaired by the guardian.
They underestimated the DPS of BoB tho, and so they tore through the Myrmidons.
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Gentle Glide
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Proberbly got yammed and relocking, dropping drones would only cause auto aggro on random targets and not enough combined damage to beat their tank. Getting their drones killed achieving nothing.
Proberbly..
Doesnt make sense, if my myrm is in half armor and going down im going to do as much damage as POSSIBLE -------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP t20 So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
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Gentle Glide
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Khorian They maybe wanted to get in close range (past Sensord Damp range) and unload their drones on a single target instead of spread drone aggro from the start on multiple ships, wich would be repaired by the guardian.
They underestimated the DPS of BoB tho, and so they tore through the Myrmidons.
They sat on top of the bob fleet without activating a single module. -------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP t20 So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gentle Glide
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Proberbly got yammed and relocking, dropping drones would only cause auto aggro on random targets and not enough combined damage to beat their tank. Getting their drones killed achieving nothing.
Proberbly..
Doesnt make sense, if my myrm is in half armor and going down im going to do as much damage as POSSIBLE
True, but i don't think they threw the match.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
they started outside drone range
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Nthraller
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
it seems they started over 70km away from eachother - outside drone control range? , and dropping em early would mean em being killed on the way over, and myrms cant have drones spare.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gentle Glide
Originally by: Khorian They maybe wanted to get in close range (past Sensord Damp range) and unload their drones on a single target instead of spread drone aggro from the start on multiple ships, wich would be repaired by the guardian.
They underestimated the DPS of BoB tho, and so they tore through the Myrmidons.
They sat on top of the bob fleet without activating a single module.
Not true, they repped themselves and each other on the way down and im sure i saw damps from the myrms too.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nthraller
Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
it seems they started over 70km away from eachother - outside drone control range? , and dropping em early would mean em being killed on the way over, and myrms cant have drones spare.
Drone Link Augmentor I
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Nthraller
Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
it seems they started over 70km away from eachother - outside drone control range? , and dropping em early would mean em being killed on the way over, and myrms cant have drones spare.
Drone Link Augmentor I
...right so you waste a highslot on a mod that you think you wont need for your close range setup?
Think.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Nthraller
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Nthraller
Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
it seems they started over 70km away from eachother - outside drone control range? , and dropping em early would mean em being killed on the way over, and myrms cant have drones spare.
Drone Link Augmentor I
well, if you did FIT one yes :D who knows, would be nice with a reply from the respective players..
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Ladel Teravada
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: ArmyOfMe
Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
they started outside drone range
They got inside range though, and I bet that Rook was cycling jammers...
Could also be that their drones got attacked by the frigs as soon as they released them and they didn't dare keep them out for fear of loosing the drones.. Still not a good idea, but ok.
Commodore Ladel Teravada Executive Officer, Fleet Operations
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Cordial Ripper
Minmatar g guild
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:18:00 -
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go figure nobody wanted to win on UNL part :) everyone knows why. BoB Payd UNL to trew away the match was so obvious and again BoB win using dirty work
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Khorian
Gallente Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:20:00 -
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rofl *tinfoil*
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cordial Ripper go figure nobody wanted to win on UNL part :) everyone knows why. BoB Payd UNL to trew away the match was so obvious and again BoB win using dirty work
Christ, i don't even like BoB but **** off with the tinfoil.
That match can easily be explained with game mechanics and looking at it from their point of view. They didn't want to lose drones, they were waiting for a break. They waited too long and it was a bad call.
Like someone said before the rook was proberbly cycle jamming so they should have dropped drones at 20-30k and hopefully they would have gotten enough damage on him (i doubt it but it would have been something).
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Vorgoth
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vorgoth on 07/09/2007 17:22:09
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Nthraller
Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
it seems they started over 70km away from eachother - outside drone control range? , and dropping em early would mean em being killed on the way over, and myrms cant have drones spare.
Drone Link Augmentor I
Stick to your usual cadre of mindless trolling. It's clear you're not very clever on setups.
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cordial Ripper go figure nobody wanted to win on UNL part :) everyone knows why. BoB Payd UNL to trew away the match was so obvious and again BoB win using dirty work
Surely you have proof to back this up no?
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Cordial Ripper
Minmatar g guild
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Christ, i don't even like BoB but **** off with the tinfoil.
That match can easily be explained with game mechanics and looking at it from their point of view. They didn't want to lose drones, they were waiting for a break. They waited too long and it was a bad call.
Like someone said before the rook was proberbly cycle jamming so they should have dropped drones at 20-30k and hopefully they would have gotten enough damage on him (i doubt it but it would have been something).
so they din't wanted to lose any drones and they preferd to lose the ships? not trying anything at all kinda makes me think diferent
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Gentle Glide
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Gentle Glide on 07/09/2007 17:22:33
Originally by: Vorgoth
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Nthraller
Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
it seems they started over 70km away from eachother - outside drone control range? , and dropping em early would mean em being killed on the way over, and myrms cant have drones spare.
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Stick to your usual cadre of mindless trolling. It's clear you're not very clever on setups.
Drone Link Augmentor I
You quoted wrong. -------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP t20 So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
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Vorgoth
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Cordial Ripper go figure nobody wanted to win on UNL part :) everyone knows why. BoB Payd UNL to trew away the match was so obvious and again BoB win using dirty work
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:26:00 -
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I dont think bob would feel the need to pay UNL to throw the match, and i dont think UNL would throw a match for BOB of all people Looks to me like bob got jams and damps on them outside drone control and that was it, tho not even launching the drones of most myrms seems rather odd .....
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Derrios
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:27:00 -
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THROWN FOFOF.... er sorry. Duno what happend there. I thought UL had quite a decent shot at getting BOB. Perhaps that rook got some sick jams off. ----------------------------------------------- I got something to put in you. at the *** bar. |
Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:27:00 -
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The tinfoil of some people is laughable. You should take a good hard look at some of the things thats come out of your collective mouths.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Kikizip
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:28:00 -
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LOL
Whether they bought them off or just totally confused them I'd like to thank BOB sincerely for the entertainment.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vorgoth
Originally by: Cordial Ripper go figure nobody wanted to win on UNL part :) everyone knows why. BoB Payd UNL to trew away the match was so obvious and again BoB win using dirty work
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
Yeah that would be as stupid as bringing T2 Ogres and then not launching them...oh wait
Would love to hear UNL captain explain wtf happened
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Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:28:00 -
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They weren't fighting. Either they are just really ignorant about what drones do (in which case why bring that set up and rush across on mwd like that), or they were paid off.
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Cordial Ripper
Minmatar g guild
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
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Gellan
Rabble-Rousers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: HostageTaker
Originally by: Cordial Ripper go figure nobody wanted to win on UNL part :) everyone knows why. BoB Payd UNL to trew away the match was so obvious and again BoB win using dirty work
Surely you have proof to back this up no?
Digging up proofs gets you banned
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Gentle Glide
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr The tinfoil of some people is laughable. You should take a good hard look at some of the things thats come out of your collective mouths.
As far as my "tin foil" goes its sarcasm for how ******** that victory was. -------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP t20 So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Nthraller
Originally by: Ladel Teravada My guess is jammed+damped and clueless on the fact that drones attack things that activate stuff on you.
it seems they started over 70km away from eachother - outside drone control range? , and dropping em early would mean em being killed on the way over, and myrms cant have drones spare.
Drone Link Augmentor I
...right so you waste a highslot on a mod that you think you wont need for your close range setup?
Think.
Or you go all out on a set-up that won't work without one. Think.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
You sir, are and idiot.
You have no proof, you havn't even attempted to argue with reason. You havn't even attempted to back up your claim in any way.
If they wanted to mask a thrown match, there are far better and more convincing ways of doing it.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:32:00 -
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We all might as well cut the feed, stop the tournament, just give BoB whatever tokens there are for winning it, and go home.
Good going empty "victory."
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gentle Glide
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr The tinfoil of some people is laughable. You should take a good hard look at some of the things thats come out of your collective mouths.
As far as my "tin foil" goes its sarcasm for how ******** that victory was.
That's fair enough. Its everyone who maintains "omigod it r rigged" despite any explaination presented to them.
It was a bad call of their behalf, but to be honest with you, even if they had dropped drones they still wouldn't have killed anything. I think the rook got some killer cycles in, if he had missed i think we could have seen all those drones drop and focused on one target.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Khorian
Gallente Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:34:00 -
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Way to bash BoB for a UNL ****up lol.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:34:00 -
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Well, that was good.
arf arf arf.
Thanks to all the well wishers at our "empty" victory, I know 100% that UNL really appreciate it haha :D Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
Stoned Celt
Bloodnok Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
You really are an idiot. If they decide to tell us why the fkd up, you are going to look very very silly. Even more so than you do already tbh....
"I told you I was ill" - Epitaph on Spike Milligan's Tombstone.
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Kikizip
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Khorian Way to bash BoB for a UNL ****up lol.
You know you're on eve-o forums when...
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente Endica Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:35:00 -
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Drone range rig. I mean, it isn't that expensive.
Also, you don't field 5 heavies on a Myrmidon against BoB, because they will shoot them. So, drone rig to get the guaranteed minimal range needed, 5 hammerhead II to close the distance, faster than with heavies, and 3 OgreII as dps backup. 1 or 2 remote reppers, a couple of smarties for good measure, rest blasters.
Doesn't need rocket science..
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Cordial Ripper
Minmatar g guild
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:35:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Cordial Ripper on 07/09/2007 17:36:46
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
You sir, are and idiot.
You have no proof, you havn't even attempted to argue with reason. You havn't even attempted to back up your claim in any way.
If they wanted to mask a thrown match, there are far better and more convincing ways of doing it.
thank u for the bad names but once u get on top of hte hostiel ship and u get remote armor rep by the mates u are i ndrone range so u can hope for a drone autoagress. at least an atempts would of been nice to see and look again when the first myrm died the ywhere in drone range. i gues the idiot comment does not apply. and how would u know abour "there are far beter and more convincing ways "of masking a match? unless u know something we don't
lisen if u had friends in UNL team realy dont fight for a lost glorry. ask them what happend this is a free forum and we do have a right to expres ourselfs even if we are wrong
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:36:00 -
[51]
Edited by: thoth foc on 07/09/2007 17:36:46
Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
that's nothing.. did you not hear BOB paid goons to bring those extra ships? also RA, AAA and concord were bribed to stay away too..
edit: btw, since your such an expert.. HOW MUCH DID BOB PAY YOU NOT TO WIN IT ON THEM!!!!!!11!! _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Gryffindor
Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:37:00 -
[52]
I just think BOB kicked ass, the end, they would never ever in a million years need to "pay" anyone to roll over.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc that's nothing.. did you not hear BOB paid goons to bring those extra ships
Not true.
The truth of the matter was that the Goons were wearing their mittens that day, thereby hindering their ability to count.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.
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Arshes Nei
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:40:00 -
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Honestly stop bashing UNL, they are our enemies but i still dont think they threw it. The plan of them basicly looked like keeping their drones in until they got a real change of sicking all of them on the same target. Their plan failed when they couldnt keep enough remote repping up to survive, wether or not they had released their drones after that would have made no difference at all.
I even saw one of them releasing drones, rescooping, releasing ... and so forth, the drones just orbited him so he might aswell scoop em in again. Basicly people complain that UNL didnt panic and just release their drones after it was already clear their plan had failed.
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Vorgoth
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:41:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
You sir are a moron and that isnt flaming, that is a fact.
Tyrak or whatever his name is paid to throw a match last time to win a bunch of isk off the BIG betting pool. So much for it getting dirty, lol. Not to mention the fact that your argument fails more than UNL...
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Arshes Nei
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:44:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Cordial Ripper
... so u can hope for a drone autoagress.
You dont go and hope for autoaggro on drones, not like its chancebased or something. Im 100% sure if the drones had autoaggroed they would have been exactly on the ship most benificial to bob. Not like it takes rocket science to figure out how to make drones autoaggro on a certain target.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:49:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/09/2007 17:49:09
Originally by: Cordial Ripper Edited by: Cordial Ripper on 07/09/2007 17:36:46
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
You sir, are and idiot.
You have no proof, you havn't even attempted to argue with reason. You havn't even attempted to back up your claim in any way.
If they wanted to mask a thrown match, there are far better and more convincing ways of doing it.
thank u for the bad names but once u get on top of hte hostiel ship and u get remote armor rep by the mates u are i ndrone range so u can hope for a drone autoagress. at least an atempts would of been nice to see and look again when the first myrm died the ywhere in drone range. i gues the idiot comment does not apply. and how would u know abour "there are far beter and more convincing ways "of masking a match? unless u know something we don't
lisen if u had friends in UNL team realy dont fight for a lost glorry. ask them what happend this is a free forum and we do have a right to expres ourselfs even if we are wrong
The name is because you are, there is no way around it.
Remote reppers wont help if the Rook has them jammed, hence why i addressed that ship directly.
I also addressed the issue of the auto aggress. Yes it was a bad call, but i seriously doubt it was a thrown match.
Knowing how to throw a match takes maybe 30 seconds of imagination. Using 5 Myrms seriously puts BoBs ships at risk if the Rook misses enough jams. If they had used 3 Ravens and gotten picked appart, noone would have batted an eyelid and no BoB ships would have been in any danger, in any circumstance.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Sai Renn
Leader Dogs For The Blind
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Posted - 2007.09.07 17:58:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Sai Renn on 07/09/2007 17:58:03 There is a good chance that UNL's setup could have won, but I dont think they tossed there match. No way they would do that for bob.
Start of the match, out of drone range, so they needed to get in range. Issue there is MWD'ing boosts there Sig, and if the Rook is doing its job well, then those myrmidons are locked down and cant remote rep. So yeah, even if they got there drones out at that point they were going down.
Really, I think they got boned by the start positions and Lost there cool during the fight. The plan was good, it just didnt work as they hoped. -----
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Zeoliter
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:01:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Cordial Ripper Edited by: Cordial Ripper on 07/09/2007 17:36:46
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
You sir, are and idiot.
You have no proof, you havn't even attempted to argue with reason. You havn't even attempted to back up your claim in any way.
If they wanted to mask a thrown match, there are far better and more convincing ways of doing it.
thank u for the bad names but once u get on top of hte hostiel ship and u get remote armor rep by the mates u are i ndrone range so u can hope for a drone autoagress. at least an atempts would of been nice to see and look again when the first myrm died the ywhere in drone range. i gues the idiot comment does not apply. and how would u know abour "there are far beter and more convincing ways "of masking a match? unless u know something we don't
lisen if u had friends in UNL team realy dont fight for a lost glorry. ask them what happend this is a free forum and we do have a right to expres ourselfs even if we are wrong
Seriously, you think a bitter enemy of BoB would even consider giving BoB a free ride? Just because UNL are crap doesn't mean BoB did anything but simply pwn them. You obviously have no clue about the current situation in 0.0 and how the sides on both sides of the war feel about each other or you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself in this way.
I think it's time for you to quit Eve because someone with so much hostility really needs to eat more greens and maybe take some iron supplements to help with that anaemia.
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Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:02:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Remote reppers wont help if the Rook has them jammed,
But if you watched it, the one Myrmidon WAS being remote armor repaired, hence at least for quite a while, while being in drone control range, at least a few (if not all) of the Myrmidons had their sensors working and able to lock.
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Xantia Gedur
Minmatar House of Gedur
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:06:00 -
[61]
total throw
the question is how much did bob pay them?
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Zeoliter
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:11:00 -
[62]
Muppet
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Hoodoomon
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:11:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Sai Renn There is a good chance that UNL's setup could have won, but I dont think they tossed there match. No way they would do that for bob.
Unless the entire goal was for... this thread. Nothing like tinfoil to stir **** up. |
Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:11:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/09/2007 18:12:07
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Remote reppers wont help if the Rook has them jammed,
But if you watched it, the one Myrmidon WAS being remote armor repaired, hence at least for quite a while, while being in drone control range, at least a few (if not all) of the Myrmidons had their sensors working and able to lock.
If you recall he was tanking the damage when being remote repped but his tank suddenly failed.
If you're honestly saying that Rook didn't jam enough Myrms at any point during that match, to compramise that tank, i want whatever you're smoking.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:19:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/09/2007 18:12:07
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Remote reppers wont help if the Rook has them jammed,
But if you watched it, the one Myrmidon WAS being remote armor repaired, hence at least for quite a while, while being in drone control range, at least a few (if not all) of the Myrmidons had their sensors working and able to lock.
If you recall he was tanking the damage when being remote repped but his tank suddenly failed.
If you recall they were in drone control range for a good while before that happened.
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Sanche Tehkeli
Gallente Bionesis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:20:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Sanche Tehkeli on 07/09/2007 18:27:03 As the myrm (18 sensor strengh, 125 m3 drone bay) does not have any drone bay size bonus, I think UNL myrms wanted to hold their drones 'til they could unleash them effectively against a single target (the Rook took damage). But this same Rook, ECM-full with a skilld pilot has enough chance to jam anything up to a battlecruiser. Weither the myrm had remote reppers, a good jamming wave means 20 seconds of pure damage from all other ships.
I am nearly sure the Rook pilot has Recon V and signal disruption V. I add : if myrms had heavy drones they would have been shot. If they released med drones at random, they could not have been that effective on so many targets.
And, of any myrm had a *rig* fitted, the match would have ended much, much, faster :D :D
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:24:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/09/2007 18:25:59
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/09/2007 18:12:07
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Remote reppers wont help if the Rook has them jammed,
But if you watched it, the one Myrmidon WAS being remote armor repaired, hence at least for quite a while, while being in drone control range, at least a few (if not all) of the Myrmidons had their sensors working and able to lock.
If you recall he was tanking the damage when being remote repped but his tank suddenly failed.
If you recall they were in drone control range for a good while before that happened.
..and BoB also had 5(?) frigs with damps. Possibley the Raven and Drake too assuming they were armor tanking with help from the Guardian.
Anything else?
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:26:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Sanche Tehkeli As the myrm (18 sensor strengh, 125 m3 drone bay) does not have any drone bay size bonus, I think UNL myrms wanted to hold their drones 'til they could unleash them effectively against a single target (the Rook took damage). But this same Rook, ECM-full with a skilld pilot has enough chance to jam anything up to a battlecruiser. Weither the myrm had remote reppers, a good jamming wave means 20 seconds of pure damage from all other ships.
I am nearly sure the Rook pilot has Recon V and signal disruption V.
And, of any myrm had a *rig* fitted, the match would have ended much, much, faster :D :D
Rigs are still not allowed.
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Sanche Tehkeli
Gallente Bionesis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:28:00 -
[69]
That was ironic (to the guy who suggested rig ...)
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Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:31:00 -
[70]
Keep it coming..
Surely the tinfoil hasn't dried up yet? -
Listen or we'll take your region. |
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:35:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Robert Dobbs Keep it coming..
Surely the tinfoil hasn't dried up yet?
Well as I am sure you know, a drone set up is a great counter for a jamming, damp team.
So I guess BOB is just as curious as everyone else, and would love to hear from UNL as to what exactly went wrong
Did they try load the drones into probe launchers...or were the Myrms set up for salvaging...
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |
Templayer
Amarr Monks of War United Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:45:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Templayer on 07/09/2007 18:45:48
Originally by: Sanche Tehkeli Edited by: Sanche Tehkeli on 07/09/2007 18:27:03 As the myrm (18 sensor strengh, 125 m3 drone bay)
Our myrms had 66 sensor strengh, but still got easily jammed. Thats what went unexpected.
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Ed Anger
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:50:00 -
[73]
next time remember, drones work better on the outside of the ship
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Xthril Ranger
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:54:00 -
[74]
with 150 points before the weekend there was no need for BoB to pay anyone to throw a match. Save the conspiration theories to when someone got a decent motive. . you'll never jump alone
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General StarScream
Cybertronic Decepticons
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:54:00 -
[75]
Hey whats wrong with some of you people?
it was a good fight, they did what they tought was best, and it did not work vs a well rounded BoB setup.
some of you should be ashamed of your self, for this kinda minsless trash talking about others.
its just bad taste, atlest post with your main, if you dear to talk like that to others.
to those whom feel the need to say turd stuff like this.
go make a troll post on the test fourm, and smack away.
but try and show some respect for the fighters and the tourney.
its cleery well ran.
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Zenst
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:54:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Templayer Edited by: Templayer on 07/09/2007 18:45:48
Originally by: Sanche Tehkeli Edited by: Sanche Tehkeli on 07/09/2007 18:27:03 As the myrm (18 sensor strengh, 125 m3 drone bay)
Our myrms had 66 sensor strengh, but still got easily jammed. Thats what went unexpected.
Dam I missed that loot :( got nos cap injector remote medium solace, explosive hardner, t2 sensor boosters, blasters and medium NOS (no drones in the wrecks). Dian will now beat me for missing those backup arrays
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Chib
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.07 18:57:00 -
[77]
i severely doubt that UNL threw the match or that BoB paid them......
there will be an explanation for this ---------------------------------------------
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bluechimera
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:11:00 -
[78]
Obviously photoshop'd, you can tell by the pixels.
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Bonita Ramirez
Xenobytes Stain Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:11:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Bonita Ramirez on 07/09/2007 19:13:05
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz I only see 3 possible reasons for this. 1. Their team captain loaded drones that nobody could use??? 2. They really suck 3. They threw the match.
Second choice is true
Explanations of UNL member from russian forums...
Source in russian
Translated:
"I do not know wtf it was... We were tested Myrmidons with anti-jamming modules against Rook and it couldn't to jam they during 3 minutes. But during the fighting our 3 Myrmidons were in jam from the beginning. By our calculations our fitting could tank 2k DPS but BOBs had around 1.3k and were killed us. I have full devastation in my minds what that was..."
So looks like UNL team got heavy jam from the beggining and even didn't lock most of their targets :)
Edit: spelling
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:14:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Zenst
Dam I missed that loot :( got nos cap injector remote medium solace, explosive hardner, t2 sensor boosters, blasters and medium NOS (no drones in the wrecks). Dian will now beat me for missing those backup arrays
There's the best explanation right there
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:19:00 -
[81]
Originally by: General StarScream Hey whats wrong with some of you people?
it was a good fight, they did what they tought was best, and it did not work vs a well rounded BoB setup.
some of you should be ashamed of your self, for this kinda minsless trash talking about others.
its just bad taste, atlest post with your main, if you dear to talk like that to others.
to those whom feel the need to say turd stuff like this.
go make a troll post on the test fourm, and smack away.
but try and show some respect for the fighters and the tourney.
its cleery well ran.
no, it was a shockingly bad fight. With Ogre II's you have a potential 2375 DPS there in Hitpoint-bonused heavy drones (i.e. not exactly easy to pick off 25 of the buggers shooting up your team), that simply sat there doing absolutely nothing.
Synchronised self-destruct would have been more entertaining. Respect to the tournament and the fighters, but performances like that deserve no punches being pulled by commentators and fellow Eve pilotsà
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Video - 'War-Machine' |
Kieranda
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:23:00 -
[82]
Originally by: General StarScream Hey whats wrong with some of you people?
it was a good fight, they did what they tought was best, and it did not work vs a well rounded BoB setup.
some of you should be ashamed of your self, for this kinda minsless trash talking about others.
its just bad taste, atlest post with your main, if you dear to talk like that to others.
to those whom feel the need to say turd stuff like this.
go make a troll post on the test fourm, and smack away.
but try and show some respect for the fighters and the tourney.
its cleery well ran.
-dbp
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Ki An
Gallente KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:50:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Kieranda -dbp
Oh wow! What a burn! You basically repeated what he said... and then signed it with -dbp. It's funny because... you know... that's what DBPreacher would sign his posts with. Also it's completely new and original, further increasing the sheer hilarity of it. Well done, old chap. Well done.
I would like to congratulate BoB for another well deserved and convincing win. I am sure UNL will do a lot better next time.
/Ki
Remember kids: Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Milena Rage
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:52:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Originally by: Vorgoth
Why would UNL even have t2 drones fitted if they were planning to throw it? Some of you people here are simply laughable.
have u heard of an "atempt" to mask an trew away match ? seriously the laughuable thing here is ppl siding with bob. this tournament is geting dirty and i am not watching it anymore oh and btw ppl have a right to say what they think(most of the time ppl have good reasons to belive what they say)
goodnight and have a BoB-it tournament
You won't be missed o/
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Vorgoth
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:58:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: General StarScream Hey whats wrong with some of you people?
it was a good fight, they did what they tought was best, and it did not work vs a well rounded BoB setup.
some of you should be ashamed of your self, for this kinda minsless trash talking about others.
its just bad taste, atlest post with your main, if you dear to talk like that to others.
to those whom feel the need to say turd stuff like this.
go make a troll post on the test fourm, and smack away.
but try and show some respect for the fighters and the tourney.
its cleery well ran.
-dbp
EPIC BURN!1111
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Hoodoomon
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:59:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Ki An Oh wow! What a burn! You basically repeated what he said... and then signed it with -dbp.
Who can point out the poster that completely missed the joke? Ooo, I can!
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Ki An
Gallente KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.07 20:01:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Hoodoomon
Originally by: Ki An Oh wow! What a burn! You basically repeated what he said... and then signed it with -dbp.
Who can point out the poster that completely missed the joke? Ooo, I can!
Oh, I got the joke. It was funny the first 10 times it was told, but it's sort of not funny anymore.
/Ki
Remember kids: Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Hoodoomon
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Posted - 2007.09.07 20:05:00 -
[88]
Newsflash: It's still funny.
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Ki An
Gallente KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.07 20:05:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Hoodoomon Newsflash: It's still funny.
Ok
/Ki Remember kids: Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.09.07 20:07:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Ki An I am sure UNL will do a lot better next time.
They couldn't do much worse.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.
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D8 PREACHER
Reiskokopops
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Posted - 2007.09.07 20:42:00 -
[91]
Originally by: General StarScream Hey whats wrong with some of you people?
it was a good fight, they did what they tought was best, and it did not work vs a well rounded BoB setup.
some of you should be ashamed of your self, for this kinda minsless trash talking about others.
its just bad taste, atlest post with your main, if you dear to talk like that to others.
to those whom feel the need to say turd stuff like this.
go make a troll post on the test fourm, and smack away.
but try and show some respect for the fighters and the tourney.
its cleery well ran.
QFT
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Intigo
Amarr The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:27:00 -
[92]
Anyone foolish enough to think they threw this match need a reality check.
1) This is the group stages and as long as they win their last fight they're pretty much secured a spot among the final 16 anyway? 2) They've won all 3 tournaments so far, are you implying they got everyone to throw their matches back then too? 3) UNL may be top-notch PvP'ers, but their showing so far in the tournament has been less than stellar. Why would you pay someone to throw their match against you when you've fought harder teams and beaten them fairly multiple times before?
Those 3 points only reinforce how stupid it is to think that BoB threw this match. I honestly don't understand where all the tinfoil-hattery is coming from. Silly trolls. :\ --
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Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.08 04:17:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Intigo Anyone foolish enough to think they threw this match need a reality check.
1) This is the group stages and as long as they win their last fight they're pretty much secured a spot among the final 16 anyway? 2) They've won all 3 tournaments so far, are you implying they got everyone to throw their matches back then too? 3) UNL may be top-notch PvP'ers, but their showing so far in the tournament has been less than stellar. Why would you pay someone to throw their match against you when you've fought harder teams and beaten them fairly multiple times before?
Those 3 points only reinforce how stupid it is to think that BoB threw this match. I honestly don't understand where all the tinfoil-hattery is coming from. Silly trolls. :\
Its stupid but something was very very wierd about that match. I actually thought that they had forgotten their drones...
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Agmar
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.08 07:02:00 -
[94]
Little known facts about BoB:
When you fight a BoB gang, your drone bay is instantly reduced to 0.
And Zenst.... wt* m8?!? You didn't salvage those ships? That is going to tick Dian off even worse!!! _______
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Sha4d13
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:02:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Intigo Anyone foolish enough to think they threw this match need a reality check.
1) This is the group stages and as long as they win their last fight they're pretty much secured a spot among the final 16 anyway? 2) They've won all 3 tournaments so far, are you implying they got everyone to throw their matches back then too? 3) UNL may be top-notch PvP'ers, but their showing so far in the tournament has been less than stellar. Why would you pay someone to throw their match against you when you've fought harder teams and beaten them fairly multiple times before?
Those 3 points only reinforce how stupid it is to think that BoB threw this match. I honestly don't understand where all the tinfoil-hattery is coming from. Silly trolls. :\
I think you have to re assess your starting point ot understand what happened here. UNL are by no means top notch PvPers. They are lousy and used to get pushed around by corps and alliances half their size until TCF came and helped them out in taking I-NG.
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Kushion
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:08:00 -
[96]
1. Of all the ways to throw a match, why do it in the dumbest way possible? It's fairly easy to appear to put up a decent fight but still lose.
2. Why would BoB pay UNL, of all people, to throw a match? Quite frankly, they have done very poorly. They've completely steamrolled better teams. Why pay money for what you can easily do for free?
3. Why now? They've already got the points to go on...
4. Why would UNL do it? Did they honestly think they had a chance at winning? And if they thought they could actually win, could anything BoB give them be better than the tourney rewards + bragging rights + getting back at their sworn enemies?
5. Why would BoB pay them when they can just use their wtfgmhaxsploitzomg? It's a well known fact that BoB can cause a ship to spontaneously asplode wth nothing more than the power of their mind. /tinfoil
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:15:00 -
[97]
I have been going over and over this in my head and the only explanation I can find that makes any sense whatsoever is a hot chick at BoB. I mean there must be one right?
UNL did not appear to be honestly trying to win. being paid to throw the match makes no sense since as pointed out above making the best showing against BoB would be a far better reward than any bribe. I see no other explanation than that a hot chick asked them to do it and they caved in.
Does anyone have a better explanation? ----- I'll be in my pod |
Perpello
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:22:00 -
[98]
I expected the tinfoil hat brigade to have switched this thread from "BoB bribing UNL" to "BoB using hax to ECM jam Mymidons with 66 sensor strength" by now.
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Mag's
MASS
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:51:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Perpello I expected the tinfoil hat brigade to have switched this thread from "BoB bribing UNL" to "BoB using hax to ECM jam Mymidons with 66 sensor strength" by now.
Indeed, the whole 'UNL threw' or 'BoB paid them off', doesn't strike me as being anywhere near the truth.
But the sad thing is, with all that has happened in the past, BoB will always get those type of accusations thrown their way. Those few bad apples have made their mark, sorry to say.
Mag's
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DoctorGonzo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:11:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Mag's But the sad thing is, with all that has happened in the past, BoB will always get those type of accusations thrown their way. Those few bad apples have made their mark, sorry to say.
One bad apple.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:15:00 -
[101]
I don't hold with the whole tinfoil theories thing, but I do think UNL sucked bad. I've never seen a match go so completely wrong for anyone before. Even Derek managed better than that ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts! |
Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:30:00 -
[102]
Actually, hot chicks aside, the other option that really seems to explain it is a colossal breakdown of communications on UNL's teamspeak.
Most likely someone scrambles drones, someone else says "No don't scramble drones yet.", people start asking when to do it, you can't hear the commander. Because of this, people get distracted by the hubbub until they're suddenly 2 drone ships down. At this point accusations on teamspeak of having ruined the match take precidence over actually playing the game.
Not that I'm saying this is true but that kind of screwup can happen especially if people are under stress and inexperienced. ----- I'll be in my pod |
Abye
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:32:00 -
[103]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
One bad apple.
yoo MSN ? Makes more than one ___
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Templayer
Amarr Monks of War United Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:55:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Actually, hot chicks aside, the other option that really seems to explain it is a colossal breakdown of communications on UNL's teamspeak.
Most likely someone scrambles drones, someone else says "No don't scramble drones yet.", people start asking when to do it, you can't hear the commander. Because of this, people get distracted by the hubbub until they're suddenly 2 drone ships down. At this point accusations on teamspeak of having ruined the match take precidence over actually playing the game.
Not that I'm saying this is true but that kind of screwup can happen especially if people are under stress and inexperienced.
There was no teamspeak :D So cut this bull**** theories already. We failed to execute our plan due to perfect Bob play. Thats it.
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Zeoliter
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.08 10:49:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Abye
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
One bad apple.
yoo MSN ? Makes more than one
You're so bitter. I would be too if my corp name was made up of a racist slur. Think you're funny do ya?
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KBP7 GriefingAlt
Enough is Enough
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Posted - 2007.09.08 10:57:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Zeoliter
Originally by: Abye
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
One bad apple.
yoo MSN ? Makes more than one
You're so bitter. I would be too if my corp name was made up of a racist slur. Think you're funny do ya?
Why would you be bitter is your corp name was made up of a racist slur? Bitter towards who? How is S******dy a racist slur? Explain please.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 11:04:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Patch86 on 08/09/2007 11:04:27
Originally by: Zeoliter
Originally by: Abye
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
One bad apple.
yoo MSN ? Makes more than one
You're so bitter. I would be too if my corp name was made up of a racist slur. Think you're funny do ya?
How is Sniggerdly a racist slur? It's more than likely made up of the word "s******", as in to laugh derisively.
EDIT: Filter kills link. Dictionary search it yourself.
Unless your brain happens to be as small as this websites word filter, and you thinkg that*****pits are some sort of underwear. ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts! |
Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.09.08 11:08:00 -
[108]
Were is a mod when you need one....
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.08 11:12:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Pesadel0 Were is a mod when you need one....
Just north of Lincoln? ----- I'll be in my pod |
Frannkie
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Posted - 2007.09.08 12:34:00 -
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i think its more a case of bob having superior ecm / damp skills and totally locking untd down so they could do jack **** !
they have a mean ass rook pilot in their little set up..... nuff said
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 12:39:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Frannkie i think its more a case of bob having superior ecm / damp skills and totally locking untd down so they could do jack **** !
they have a mean ass rook pilot in their little set up..... nuff said
Drones auto-agro, without needing a target lock. It's why everyone is using them in this Tourney.
Or at least they do if you launch them... ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts! |
Mag's
MASS
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Posted - 2007.09.08 13:39:00 -
[112]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Originally by: Mag's But the sad thing is, with all that has happened in the past, BoB will always get those type of accusations thrown their way. Those few bad apples have made their mark, sorry to say.
One bad apple.
Whatever the number, my point still stands.
Mag's
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Khorian
Gallente Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 13:53:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Frannkie i think its more a case of bob having superior ecm / damp skills and totally locking untd down so they could do jack **** !
they have a mean ass rook pilot in their little set up..... nuff said
Drones auto-agro, without needing a target lock. It's why everyone is using them in this Tourney.
Or at least they do if you launch them...
That was the problem, scattered fire from drones over multiple targets wont kill any ship in BoBs team. They wanted to focus fire with their drones but BoB ultimately shut most of their targetting down. So they got totally dominated by a superior team.
What counts is the end-result.
Would they have thrown the Heavy drones out, they would have been shot down while scattered accross multiple frigs. I don't understand why the experts said that this Setup of all setups "might have beaten boB". It didn't, it sucked.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:13:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Templayer
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Actually, hot chicks aside, the other option that really seems to explain it is a colossal breakdown of communications on UNL's teamspeak.
Most likely someone scrambles drones, someone else says "No don't scramble drones yet.", people start asking when to do it, you can't hear the commander. Because of this, people get distracted by the hubbub until they're suddenly 2 drone ships down. At this point accusations on teamspeak of having ruined the match take precidence over actually playing the game.
Not that I'm saying this is true but that kind of screwup can happen especially if people are under stress and inexperienced.
There was no teamspeak :D So cut this bull**** theories already. We failed to execute our plan due to perfect Bob play. Thats it.
Ok but didn't you fight back?
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CagedRage
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:59:00 -
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This is the alliance tournament... Even if BoB paid off UNL... It's not against the rules.
Okay, anyways, here's another idea for you folks... Actually doing the *proper* research would have told BoB that gallente racial jammers would give them the edge. Can I get a count on the number of mid slots on a Rook? Heh.
This game is designed to be dirty. I can't be the only one loving the drama!
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Ed Anger
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.08 15:11:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Templayer
There was no teamspeak :D So cut this bull**** theories already. We failed to execute our plan due to perfect Bob play. Thats it.
what plan? fly all the way over to their team and die?
if you have a ton of drone boats, why would you not release the drones? even if damped, if youre fired on they aggro. it really makes no sense.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.09.08 15:21:00 -
[117]
Maybe they were going to try to bump the Guardian out of range of the ships it was supposed to be repping!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.
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Brack Petersburg
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Posted - 2007.09.08 22:02:00 -
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k first off
1) yeah this is a alt, dont want any flak towards my main, my reasons are my own
2) yeah, i have a humongus tinfoil hat, bite me
opinion 1 > BoB payed UNL to throw the match, perhaps seeing those 5 myrms as too much of a risk, and not wanting to lose a almost certainly extremely well fitted team (gratz to whoever builds those fittings)
tbh im more ****ed at UNL if it did happen, for doing so unbelievably badly at it, i dont know, but those myrms that popped drones were either, trying to get some aggression and being uncertain, hence the pulls, or being screamed at by the FC to pull them in and let BoB kill them
and no, i dont hate BoB ive just got used to all the rumours, so i dont care tbh, 0.0 politics are behind me now
opinion 2 > if it wasnt anything dirty etc, then UNL really suck i can understand if the plan failed, being jammed and not being able to primary with those drones, but come on, who here would sit there and take it up the ass, sure, the drones with only auto re-agress-y thing random BoB ships (forget the name )
atleast it would have done something, maybe stretch the guardian to far as to lose a ship, myself yeah i know hindsight blah blah, after the first myrm dropped being a 1/5th of my teams DPS gone,during the 4th myrm taking dmg and still having no-one lock, would of ordered mass drone launch in a attempt to take atleast one BoB ship out with me.
im often compeletly scant in eve, but i would be mighty ****ed if i spent 60-70mills of anyones money, on a likely fully t2 myrm with t2 ogres, just to sit there and die, ive fought week old noobs in wars who can grasp the concept of `bah, im gonna atleast try something before i die!`
anyway, what a waste of 5 beautifull myrms and shame on UNL for taking it to the face, i hope they can improvise/resort to better actions after the tourney, or i smell mass war decs and alliance invasions on the way
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Ki An
Gallente KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.08 22:30:00 -
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I am seriously amazed by the amount of morons shouting "OMGZ BOB PAYD UNL!!", or frankly even speculating about it. It's a sad testament to the route this game has taken during the last year. People are so busy coming up with conspiracy theories about why they are getting beaten that they never stop to think that maybe the other guy's where better. I am not saying UNL does this, as they have posted several times in this thread that BoB played excellent and beat them through superior tactics.
Let's analyze the fight, shall we? Five myrmidons who need to be in close range in order to do anything. They start speeding across the battlefield, sensibly keeping their slow drones in their bays until the ships get close enough to do anything. The first myrmidon goes pop. Now the four remaining myrmidons are still not in range due to being dampened. Perhaps one or two of them are able to get a lock, but it wouldn't be enough to make any difference, so the team captain decides to keep all the drones in the bays untill all of them can attack the same target (remember the BoB logistics ship doing extremely well in keeping their ships alive). Now the second myrmidon goes pop, just as the remaining three gets in range. Que the rook and racial ECMs. We now have three perma-jammed myrmidons, all jammed before dropping their drones, thus preventing auto aggro. We see a myrmidon attempting to gain aggro by releasing, scoping and re-releasing his drones. It doesn't work, and another one of them gets popped. Now it's just a matter of cleaning up the rest for BoB.
I'm not saying this is exactly how it happened, but it is a hell of a lot more plausible than BoB paying UNL to lay down, and definately more plausible than UNL actually AGREEING to lay down for isk.
You tin-foil hatters need to STFU and stop ruining this tournament.
/Ki
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.08 22:49:00 -
[120]
That makes sense. What you are saying is that they tried too hard since their enemy was so scary. They held back their attacks until they could get to the perfect position which never prevented itself.
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Itto'Ryu
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.09 04:37:00 -
[121]
Tinfoil hat time...
I say UNL payed bob to win, ha. unl asked for access to bobs beer supply in return.
Oh, flying monkeys stole all my underpants.
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Hyuuga Veralis
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.09.09 05:26:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Sanche Tehkeli And, of any myrm had a *rig* fitted, the match would have ended much, much, faster :D :D
If rigs were allowed it'd have just meant the Rook could've had more powerful ECM, and the damps on the frigs would've been much stronger.
And the Guardian/raven/drake would've been more buff.
Hell if rigs were allowed I'd not be surprised to see a team of nothing but drake/nh/vulture passive tankers, especially because if rigs were in, all gang mods likely would be too, and you'd have a Vulture with mindlinks, and gangmods, and their passive tanks would be simply insane. -------------- Fulfilling 0.0 Ammo needs since 2 days after being made. |
Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.09 08:06:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Templayer
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Actually, hot chicks aside, the other option that really seems to explain it is a colossal breakdown of communications on UNL's teamspeak.
Most likely someone scrambles drones, someone else says "No don't scramble drones yet.", people start asking when to do it, you can't hear the commander. Because of this, people get distracted by the hubbub until they're suddenly 2 drone ships down. At this point accusations on teamspeak of having ruined the match take precidence over actually playing the game.
Not that I'm saying this is true but that kind of screwup can happen especially if people are under stress and inexperienced.
There was no teamspeak :D So cut this bull**** theories already. We failed to execute our plan due to perfect Bob play. Thats it.
No you are a liar , we paid you to lose , the alt brigade COMPELS YOU to admit that we paid you
I havent seen that much tinfoil and bitterness , epic
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Dracolich
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.09.09 09:37:00 -
[124]
It's better to have the drones in the bay the entire time, than have them auto-agress. Epic failure. _____________________________________
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Chirinako
Caldari KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.09 10:51:00 -
[125]
Lol. Bob totally annhialated someone so of course they must be cheating or paying the opposing team to lose.
Honestly...just shut up. UNL of all people wouldn't bloody accept a bribe from Bob
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