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Templer Relleg
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.17 07:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Templer Relleg
Its caled Aspergers SYNDROME. You know the difference between the two of them? 
Asperger syndrome (also Asperger's syndrome, Asperger's disorder, Asperger's, or AS) is one of several autism spectrum disorders (ASD) that are characterized by difficulties in social communication and reciprocal social skills, and in restricted and stereotyped interests and activities
Not so fast there buddy.
Theres still a different. Asperger itself is a sydrome. But the symtomes you get, are disorders.
Theres a fundamental difference. The syndrome itself describes a person, not the disorders.
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Death Kill
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.17 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Templer Relleg
Theres still a different. Asperger itself is a sydrome. But the symtomes you get, are disorders.
Theres a fundamental difference. The syndrome itself describes a person, not the disorders.
thats why its also known as Aspergers disorder. You could easily say the same thing about eating disorders, thats its not really eating disorder but a syndrome of some kind.
I really think you are splitting hairs here.
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Caid Lemant
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Posted - 2007.09.17 07:26:00 -
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He's trying to clarify the difference between a syndrome and a disorder, there is no one singular Asperger's disorder. Asperger's is made up of many observable disorders that cohesively make a syndrome. Not all Asperger's cases are the same.
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Templer Relleg
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.17 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Templer Relleg on 17/09/2007 07:29:02
Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Templer Relleg
Theres still a different. Asperger itself is a sydrome. But the symtomes you get, are disorders.
Theres a fundamental difference. The syndrome itself describes a person, not the disorders.
thats why its also known as Aspergers disorder. You could easily say the same thing about eating disorders, thats its not really eating disorder but a syndrome of some kind.
I really think you are splitting hairs here.
I just think that saying disorder is so wrong. Its got a negative value to it.
And all aspies i know are very happy about being who they are. They dont see it as a disorder per say.
Originally by: Caid Lemant
He's trying to clarify the difference between a syndrome and a disorder, there is no one singular Asperger's disorder. Asperger's is made up of many observable disorders that cohesively make a syndrome. Not all Asperger's cases are the same.
I thought it had been cleared out earlier in the thread. But yeah, also that.
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Death Kill
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Posted - 2007.09.17 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Templer Relleg
Its got a negative value to it.
Ah ok I see.
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Asperger
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:03:00 -
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Given this character name I'm sure it's not hard to guess that I'm involved with AS.
There are lots of people who mistakenly equate having Asperger's syndrome with being a geek with a bad social life. Impaired social life and having an obsession does not mean people have AS, but people who have AS most likely have these sympthoms. AS has a large set of sympthoms and there isn't a person who has all of them. It is always just a subset. Anyway, I don't use medication and I don't have regular "therapy" or similar sessions about this, although I'm diagnosed "officially". I'm also off the charts in the online AS tests, although they can be misleading, so if someone suspects that he or she has AS, he/she shouldn't rely on it.
I've known that I have AS for the past few years and knowing about it helped immensely. Before, I didn't know why I can't interact well with others, but since then with practice I'm doing a conscious substitute for what others do quite naturally. For example I know not to keep constant staring eye contact, but to break eye contact some of the time and I pay attention to my body language in order not to give out the wrong signals, like signaling that I'm in a bad mood and that I prefer to be left alone. Smiling sometimes, not folding my arms around my chest all the time and a few other things help in interacting with others.
I hate waiting, it is excrutiating pain for me to be idle, especially when it comes to public transport. I have to have something in my hand, otherwise I don't know what to do with my arms when standing.
Trying to keep up a conversation is difficult because I'm much slower at judging the intent of others when having a live conversation. I reply too quickly and it often ends up being nonsensical, a filler so I end up correcting myself a lot of the time with what I'd really ment to say.
Intelligence doesn't have much to do with Asperger's syndrome, except to exclude Autistic people from being diagnosed with AS. However, it would be misleading to say that it doesn't affect the way someone thinks.
I'm very lucky because the thing I'm interested in happens to be practical in real life. I'm very good in IT and I solve problems for a living. I often apply unique approaches in order to accomplish something and it's not the matter of intelligence, but just "thinking differently" (TM).
I'm interested in science, be it physics, mathematics, biology, chemistry, astronomy, psychology etecera. I will never stop learning, trying to know more. I believe in trying to avoid being an idiot, in the original greek meaning (quoting wikipedia: "Idiot" was originally created to refer to people who were overly concerned with their own self-interest and ignored the needs of the community. Declining to take part in public life, such as democratic government of the polis (city state), such as the Athenian democracy, was considered dishonorable. "Idiots" were seen as having bad judgment in public and political matters.").
I guess people could describe me as being very rational, as I believe in trying to know things, trying to follow the scientific method in understanding things.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.19 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Wizie
Originally by: Patch86
Aspergers isn't a mental disorder it's a way of life.
Thats why they call it Aspergers disorder then? 
Unless you are a doctor then STFU idiot.
Ahem, you have misquoted good sir. It wasn't me who made that jackass comment, thankyou very much...
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Siren Shiva
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.20 08:42:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Verone
it can be a difficult thing to deal with from my experiences.
I'm sure with some tolerance and goodwill any damage can be prevented or mended, no matter the issue or syndrome involved. 
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Templer Relleg
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.20 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Templer Relleg on 20/09/2007 09:37:54
Originally by: Siren Shiva
Originally by: Verone
it can be a difficult thing to deal with from my experiences.
I'm sure with some tolerance and goodwill any damage can be prevented or mended, no matter the issue or syndrome involved.
Have you interacted with aspies?
Most of my friends(The few of them) are aspies. Even tho we know what the dangers are, it happens over and over again.
The way the average person is, especially in regards to irony and sarcasme, its HARD. Its VERY HARD.
But understanding the syndrome and what makes aspies happy goes a long way. But it will never shield you from saying something stupid, becuase it all depends on the mood of the aspies, which can be VERY hard to see.
So how you might ask?
When you talk to your aspie, state your CLEAR Intention. Dont wrap it all up in sugar words or sarcasm. State it clearly.
Want an aspie to do something? State CLEARLY what you want and what you expect of the person. Also HOW. State it CLEARLY.
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Kastar
Memphis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.20 11:24:00 -
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Siren Shiva
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.22 11:00:00 -
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Yes, telling an Aspie exactly what you expect from them and how you feel probably helps a great deal, but in todays society, it appears to be an unwritten law that it is forbidden to show feelings or to talk clearly about such things.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.09.22 18:17:00 -
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It's hard to diagnose and an increasing proportion of people seem to be being diagnosed with it. Practically every internet community has an abnormally high proportion of aspies to neurotypicals. My brother was diagnosed with it and sometimes you could swear he's normal but other times you really see it...
It has been suggested that I could get diagnosed with it, probably just from picking up my brother's habits.
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