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Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:43:00 - [1] Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 11:47:06 It seems that G O O K is a banned word. Why? According to Princeton University it is deemed: "any thick, viscous matter" Whwn I refered to ISK sellers as 'clogging up the Blueprints channel' with the G O O K like spam I was censored for 3 hours. For shame CCP. I pay to talk... those G O O K s do not. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Svavz Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:49:00 - [2] Avoiding the forum filter is bad mmkay?
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:53:00 - [3] Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 11:56:29 Originally by: Svavz Avoiding the forum filter is bad mmkay? I'll never avoid the "filter" for offensive words. However the word in context is perfectly acceptable. Some what like Sa***uard which is censored... but it aqctually reads S A F E G U A R D. How offensive is that? Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Rydia Davenport Caldari Claflin Industries	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:53:00 - [4] I agree those ISK sellers in the blueprints channel make me want to do evil evil things. Perhaps gunk, crud, or goo would have been a better fit?
Yao Shiu	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:55:00 - [5] as far as I know, the word you're referring to is a racial slur. google it for crying out loud! look at the first entry. "(U.S. military slang) an Asian person, especially an enemy (e.g. Koreans or Vietnamese during the Korean and Vietnam wars). By extension, any Asian person. Derived from the Korean words ôhangukö and ômigukö. Guk is from the Chinese, Guo, Kingdom or Country."
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:59:00 - [6] Hiiighly offensive, and most people will see it as such no matter which definition you mean. Especially seeing as 95% of people only know it as the racial slur.
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Yao Shiu as far as I know, the word you're referring to is a racial slur. google it for crying out loud! look at the first entry. "(U.S. military slang) an Asian person, especially an enemy (e.g. Koreans or Vietnamese during the Korean and Vietnam wars). By extension, any Asian person. Derived from the Korean words ôhangukö and ômigukö. Guk is from the Chinese, Guo, Kingdom or Country." How dare you accuse me of that !!! I of course meant what I described in my original post! Do not condemn me for having an adequate education unlike those that censored me who failed to understand the ethic qualities of educational standards! Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:01:00 - [8] Originally by: Menkaure Hiiighly offensive, and most people will see it as such no matter which definition you mean. Especially seeing as 95% of people only know it as the racial slur. Count me in the 5% who deem it otherwise and respect my linguistic freedom. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Taikun Originally by: Menkaure Hiiighly offensive, and most people will see it as such no matter which definition you mean. Especially seeing as 95% of people only know it as the racial slur. Count me in the 5% who deem it otherwise and respect my linguistic freedom. Taikun No linguistic freedom when using words that offend 95% of people. I could call you a ***** of a **stick, consider it a compliment - but CCP and most of the people on these forums would consider what I said an insult, and treat it as such. (and censor it, in the case of CCP). CCP will stick with the majority, your little 5% plainly isn't that.
Yao Shiu	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:06:00 - [10] you have to take into account that the majority of people would see it as a racial slur, which is why it's censored. there are plenty of other words that you could use instead. like goo or slime or any of the others listed in the link you gave. you're just bored and asking for trouble really.
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Menkaure CCP will stick with the majority, your little 5% plainly isn't that. I'll count you among the the ISK sellers. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Taikun Originally by: Menkaure CCP will stick with the majority, your little 5% plainly isn't that. I'll count you among the the ISK sellers. Taikun Moving from intelligent argument to petty insults? I thought you were supposed to be the smart one, apparently? Stop picking a fight. (and I don't sell ISK, for reference. Never have.)
Anson Halleck Lost Eden	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:09:00 - [13] Edited by: Anson Halleck on 15/09/2007 12:09:58 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=** replace ** with your word to see the definition
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Menkaure (and I don't sell ISK, for reference. Never have.) Never said you did. Just said I'll count you as supporting their activities. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Taikun Originally by: Menkaure CCP will stick with the majority, your little 5% plainly isn't that. I'll count you among the the ISK sellers. Taikun You, sir, now phail at any argument I'll ever see you make. Good day. ______________________________ A Request About Lag Discussion -- Yet another "Edit my sig devs!" request \o/
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Taikun Originally by: Menkaure (and I don't sell ISK, for reference. Never have.) Never said you did. Just said I'll count you as supporting their activities. Taikun Stop changing the topic? This is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand? (and again, I don't)
Yao Shiu	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:12:00 - [17] Originally by: Theo Samaritan Originally by: Taikun Originally by: Menkaure CCP will stick with the majority, your little 5% plainly isn't that. I'll count you among the the ISK sellers. Taikun You, sir, now phail at any argument I'll ever see you make. Good day. this.
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:13:00 - [18] Originally by: Yao Shiu Originally by: Theo Samaritan Originally by: Taikun Originally by: Menkaure CCP will stick with the majority, your little 5% plainly isn't that. I'll count you among the the ISK sellers. Taikun You, sir, now phail at any argument I'll ever see you make. Good day. this. (agreed) Last post I make on this topic.
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:14:00 - [19] Originally by: Anson Halleck Edited by: Anson Halleck on 15/09/2007 12:09:58 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=** replace ** with your word to see the definition Hmmmmm lets see a highly expensive education at Princeton University versus an online 'open for all' dictionary. I know where my educational standard reside. And I also know where yours do as well. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Wardog 1 Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:19:00 - [20] Edited by: Wardog 1 on 15/09/2007 12:23:05 Strange, is it not, that your own Princeton University defines "**" by a second definition. "**, slant-eye ((slang) a disparaging term for an Asian person (especially for North Vietnamese soldiers in the Vietnam War))" The word isn't offensive if for example you are talking about a sample of bitumen. Say it to a person however, and by your own institutions' definition it is offensive.
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:16:39 Originally by: Anson Halleck Edited by: Anson Halleck on 15/09/2007 12:09:58 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=** replace with your word to see the definition Hmmmmm lets see a highly expensive education at Princeton University versus an online 'open for all' dictionary. I know where my educational standard reside. And I also know where yours do as well. Let me just add... unpopular does not mean wrong. Taikun Then use wikipedia, the site that many univeristies actually encorage their students to use in research (with caution mind you). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#G replace the ** with your word. Oh look, you get an article on ethnic slurs. Big surprise there. PHAIL again, you're good at this. ______________________________ A Request About Lag Discussion -- Yet another "Edit my sig devs!" request \o/
Xanath Fireheart Under Heavy Fire	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:20:00 - [22] I don't think the standard of your education really comes into it. If you really are that well educated, then surely you should have also been aware that the word you chose to use is also, and more commonly, used as racial slur. You could just have easily used many other words that mean the same thing.
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:22:00 - [23] Originally by: Taikun (with a slight edit by Banana Torres) It seems that G O O K is a banned word. Why? According to Princeton University it is deemed: "S: (n) ****, slant-eye ((slang) a disparaging term for an Asian person (especially for North Vietnamese soldiers in the Vietnam War)) " Whwn I refered to ISK sellers as 'clogging up the Blueprints channel' with the G O O K like spam I was censored for 3 hours. For shame CCP. I pay to talk in public... those G O O Ks do not. Taikun Yeah, well, how did you know that the sellers were North Vietnamese soldiers? Seems offensive to me, you deserved your ban.
Frug Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:23:00 - [24] what a pointless argument... - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Mona Lou Essence Research Essence Enterprises	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:16:39 Originally by: Anson Halleck Edited by: Anson Halleck on 15/09/2007 12:09:58 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=** replace ** with your word to see the definition Hmmmmm lets see a highly expensive education at Princeton University versus an online 'open for all' dictionary. I know where my educational standard reside. And I also know where yours do as well. Let me just add... unpopular does not mean wrong. Taikun Well since I know you from Market forum, I know you are just trolling as usually, but anyway.... if you are looking for SLANG meaning, then university dictionary isn't best place to look.
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:28:00 - [26] Again I must state... who of us are to decide under what context I was using the reference? was I referring to North Korean soldiers during the Korean war? Or North Vietnamese fighters? Hardly seem the place to conduct such commentary. Seem out of context for long resolved conflicts. Or was I referring to the 'clogging' of channels with spam. What seems most likely? You decide yourself. I know for certain. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Kulande Luke	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:30:00 - [27] OK Taikun. So if I call you a tosser, I am of course referring to the fact I think you like tossing pancakes.
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:32:00 - [28] Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:33:51 Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:33:26 Originally by: Kulande Luke OK Taikun. So if I call you a tosser, I am of course referring to the fact I think you like tossing pancakes. Many would agree but still call you a G O O K for clogging up this thread with insults. Thats the magic of the english language. Obviouly CCP has trouble with it. Perhaps they should buy a book or take a course. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Taikun Again I must state... who of us are to decide under what context I was using the reference? was I referring to North Korean soldiers during the Korean war? Or North Vietnamese fighters? Hardly seem the place to conduct such commentary. Seem out of context for long resolved conflicts. Or was I referring to the 'clogging' of channels with spam. What seems most likely? You decide yourself. I know for certain. Taikun The point we are making, yet you seem to either deny to listen or decided now'sa good time to insult us, is that just because you ment it in one way, the word can be taken as offence and as such that is why it is filtered. No argument about that, yet somehow this topic has decended into one, primarily because you are essentially insulting our intelligence. And ok, so I dont have a univeristy degree in english, but even I know common sense. ______________________________ A Request About Lag Discussion -- Yet another "Edit my sig devs!" request \o/
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:33:51 Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:33:26 Originally by: Kulande Luke OK Taikun. So if I call you a tosser, I am of course referring to the fact I think you like tossing pancakes. Many would agree but still call you a G O O K for clogging up this thread with insults. Thats the magic of the english language. Obviouly CCP has trouble with it. Perhaps they should buy a book or take a course. Taikun If I knew you, I'd have slapped you by now. ______________________________ A Request About Lag Discussion -- Yet another "Edit my sig devs!" request \o/
Kulande Luke	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:35:00 - [31] Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:33:51 Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:33:26 Originally by: Kulande Luke OK Taikun. So if I call you a tosser, I am of course referring to the fact I think you like tossing pancakes. Many would agree but still call you a G O O K for clogging up this thread with insults. Thats the magic of the english language. Obviouly CCP has trouble with it. Perhaps they should buy a book or take a course. Taikun Who said I was insulting you?
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:36:00 - [32] Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:36:34 Originally by: Theo Samaritan The point we are making, yet you seem to either deny to listen or decided now'sa good time to insult us, is that just because you ment it in one way, the word can be taken as offence and as such that is why it is filtered. No argument about that, yet somehow this topic has decended into one, primarily because you are essentially insulting our intelligence. And ok, so I dont have a univeristy degree in english, but even I know common sense. Wonderful! This is what I was waiting for. Please point to the CCP defined "common sense" listing of what is, and isn't allowed for public commentary. Thanks, Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:40:00 - [33] Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:36:34 Originally by: Theo Samaritan The point we are making, yet you seem to either deny to listen or decided now'sa good time to insult us, is that just because you ment it in one way, the word can be taken as offence and as such that is why it is filtered. No argument about that, yet somehow this topic has decended into one, primarily because you are essentially insulting our intelligence. And ok, so I dont have a univeristy degree in english, but even I know common sense. Wonderful! This is what I was waiting for. Please point to the CCP defined "common sense" listing of what is, and isn't allowed for public commentary. Thanks, Taikun CCP common sense = The same ***** common sense that made me think that ** was an insulting rascist slur until you explained the "god" definition created by ONE university, which is OBVIOUSLY THE RIGHT CHOICE despite the fact that the majority of people don't know it. Your argument has fallen, you are standing on a sandy shore with the floor being washed away from under you. Stop now. ______________________________ A Request About Lag Discussion -- Yet another "Edit my sig devs!" request \o/
getmoving	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:41:00 - [34] Edited by: getmoving on 15/09/2007 12:44:18 Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 11:48:08 It seems that G O O K is a banned word. Why? According to Princeton University it is deemed: "any thick, viscous matter" Whwn I refered to ISK sellers as 'clogging up the Blueprints channel' with the G O O K like spam I was censored for 3 hours. For shame CCP. I pay to talk in public... those G O O Ks do not. Taikun go to londons chinatown and shout the word outloud there a few times. that would be funny. ps. best to have a letter in your pocket with your address to post your remains to though.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:41:00 - [35] It was stated yesterday by a CCP employee that they are intending to reduce the number of false matches on the word filter. The word you were looking for is goop btw. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions
CharlieMurphy Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:44:00 - [36] G O O K g00k go0k hey look at me im so clever i can dodge the word filter and make stupid pointless threads...
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:46:00 - [37] Originally by: getmoving Originally by: Taikun go to londons chinatown and shout the word outloud there a few times. The English language is not validated by such methods. But still it would be funny I agree. The word I used described behavior. How could I POSSIBLY know the ethnicity of isk sellers in the blueprints channel? Or is CCP accusing me of being a physic and racist at the same time? Pull your head in CCP. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Taikun Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:51:00 - [38] Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:51:30 Originally by: Adonis 4174 The word you were looking for is goop btw. No no no! I assure you the word I used in its proper context was Goo K. I will NOT allow some ill educated CCP drone to tell me proper English when they are clearly wrong. Taikun ----------------------------------- For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:53:00 - [39] Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:51:30 Originally by: Adonis 4174 The word you were looking for is goop btw. No no no! I assure you the word I used in its proper context was Goo K. I will NOT allow some ill educated CCP drone to tell me proper English when they are clearly wrong. Taikun ill educated? ILL EDUCATED!? STFU ______________________________ A Request About Lag Discussion -- Yet another "Edit my sig devs!" request \o/
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:58:00 - [40] Originally by: Taikun I will NOT allow... Yes you will. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions
CharlieMurphy Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:58:00 - [41] if i found the word orange offensive, for whatever reason, would you use it infront of me at every oppurtunity ? i will assume your answer is no because you have some amount of intellegance and if you did i would petition you for harrassment so if you would not deliberately offend me by using the word orange, why then would you use other words with dual meaning infront of other people that find them offensive? goop is a perfectly acceptable replacement to describe a "thick viscous matter" and it doesnt carry any racist overtones or hidden meanings im surprised somebody like you who has an adiquate education couldnt have figured this out for yourself
Highlander UK	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:16:00 - [42] Taikun you know you are wrong, and the GM's know you are wrong deal with it and don't be stupid enough to use racist words in text or chat, and then attempt to deflect some of the flak by pretending you meant it another context. Everyone knows that most of the farmers in this game are asian, its the same with all MMO's therefore the GM was quite right to censor you.
Del Narveux Dukes of Hazard	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:17:00 - [43] best thread of the day _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:18:00 - [44] Edited by: Usarua on 15/09/2007 13:19:21 Originally by: Yao Shiu Edited by: Yao Shiu on 15/09/2007 11:57:48 as far as I know, the word you're referring to is a racial slur. google it for crying out loud! look at the first entry. "(U.S. military slang) an Asian person, especially an enemy (e.g. Koreans or Vietnamese during the Korean and Vietnam wars). By extension, any Asian person. Derived from the Korean words ôhangukö and ômigukö. Guk is from the Chinese, Guo, Kingdom or Country." in fact all the google entries on the first results page are about racial slurs or the history thereof, indicating that it's usually not used in the context you've used it in. and isnt it a shame PC, whiners, and slang creators make legitimate words unusable in common language. whats next, will come become censored since its often used derogatorily to refer to a certain fluid in anatomy? P.S. I've seen the word G O O K used in the dilbert comic strip to describe how he felt about the difference between being a surgeon and the evil HR rep, namely that he didn't get any "G O O K" on his paws in the HR rep job.
Elmicker The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:19:00 - [45] Originally by: Kulande Luke OK Taikun. So if I call you a tosser, I am of course referring to the fact I think you like tossing pancakes. /thread.
Kyrall Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:24:00 - [46] Why not just call it gunk or goop, neither of which could be taken as offensive, and then there is no problem. Or is that too simple a solution? - Take another step back until you find you've walked away...
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:27:00 - [47] Originally by: Usarua P.S. I've seen the word G O O K used in the dilbert comic strip to describe how he felt about the difference between being a surgeon and the evil HR rep, namely that he didn't get any "G O O K" on his paws in the HR rep job. Scott Adams apologises at some point in more or less every dilbert book for inadvertantly offending people time and time again. He doesn't claim it is wrong to be offended, merely that from time to time you just plain can't avoid it. I remember in one he compares it to being tired, eating something and then not being tired anymore. If I can't tell the difference between my own tiredness and hunger, he argues, how can I ever be expected to understand your feelings? ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions
Nvermind United Quorum of Nine BROTHER'S WORD	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:28:00 - [48] Wait, Taikun... your absolutely correct! We should all re-evaluate our stance on word blockers, change our opinions and re-evaluate our use of language so that you can say whatever you like! It's genius... - Missioner - miner - all round nice guy -
Kharon Marlbron Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:30:00 - [49] Edited by: Kharon Marlbron on 15/09/2007 13:31:10 Edited by: Kharon Marlbron on 15/09/2007 13:30:15 snickers at the inanity of the thread I honestly can't see why some people are taking this guy seriously; he's using his supposed education to make a big elaborate excuse to use a racial slur and get away with it. He's transparent as hell. Sad? Yes. Vaguely amusing? For the first few posts. Worth arguing about? Not exactly. --------------------------- I want a GiR.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:31:00 - [50] Originally by: Kharon Marlbron Worth arguing about? Not exactly. The server's back up then? ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions
Kharon Marlbron Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Kharon Marlbron Worth arguing about? Not exactly. The server's back up then? Touche...;) --------------------------- I want a GiR.
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:33:00 - [52] Edited by: Usarua on 15/09/2007 13:34:36 Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Usarua P.S. I've seen the word G O O K used in the dilbert comic strip to describe how he felt about the difference between being a surgeon and the evil HR rep, namely that he didn't get any "G O O K" on his paws in the HR rep job. Scott Adams apologises at some point in more or less every dilbert book for inadvertantly offending people time and time again. He doesn't claim it is wrong to be offended, merely that from time to time you just plain can't avoid it. I remember in one he compares it to being tired, eating something and then not being tired anymore. If I can't tell the difference between my own tiredness and hunger, he argues, how can I ever be expected to understand your feelings? no I blame people for so easily being offended. I love how people can be sued if their free speech causes another to feel sexually harrassed or their heritage or lifestyle personally degraded in some way. it proves just how insane the world has become. good ol' US of A started it too, its why fat people sue mcdonalds, and office places are a place to dread any sort of slip of tongue that could possibly be misconstrued to offend someone. in my opinion, people take offense just so they can screw with others, thats what annoys me. perhaps language should be obliterated alltogether if people are irresponsible with it like this, using it to "grief" others by claiming personal injury. back in the day, it was a gun duel. that would solve things, every moron who claimed personal injury, I'd challenge to that duel, they'd learn to shut up and back off quick. only people who actually felt threatened might stand up. Tell me what YOU really think of people who read that sentence then claim they are offended and make a big public outrage over that sentence which any ignorant low IQ person could see as harmless. it takes a certain amount of a-hole in a personality to act like that just to get attention, possibly money etc. and all it does in the end is make the world a worse place, where we're all afraid of slipping up and getting hammered because of a slip up.
Nvermind United Quorum of Nine BROTHER'S WORD	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:33:00 - [53] I think he's right! I mean... dont CCP know he attended princeton? Clearly each persons financial and educational background should be thoroughly investigated, before censoring them for 10 minutes in a chat room! It makes perfect sense! Why cant you all see it! - Missioner - miner - all round nice guy -
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:37:00 - [54] Originally by: Nvermind I think he's right! I mean... dont CCP know he attended princeton? Clearly each persons financial and educational background should be thoroughly investigated, before censoring them for 10 minutes in a chat room! It makes perfect sense! Why cant you all see it! so you're claiming ignorance is the reason to be offended? then 80% of everyone you know should always be taking offense at something, just because its above their head. you should take offense at this person knowing more than you. sue him because he is more cosmopolitan than you! prove me right. please.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:38:00 - [55] Originally by: Usarua Originally by: Nvermind I think he's right! I mean... dont CCP know he attended princeton? Clearly each persons financial and educational background should be thoroughly investigated, before censoring them for 10 minutes in a chat room! It makes perfect sense! Why cant you all see it! so you're claiming ignorance is the reason to be offended? then 80% of everyone you know should always be taking offense at something, just because its above their head. you should take offense at this person knowing more than you. sue him because he is more cosmopolitan than you! prove me right. please. The issue is not why he posted something offensive but why he feels the need to complain about it. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions
Nvermind United Quorum of Nine BROTHER'S WORD	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:38:00 - [56] Edited by: Nvermind on 15/09/2007 13:43:53 Ah c'mon chief, Your **ed because you think you cant say what you want? Course you can, just not in EvE chat rooms. Go get a blog or something EDIT: one thought, is the guy annoyed because he cant say **, or annoyed at the implications of being censored in achannel? Was he really embarassed and now we all get to hear how NOT racist he was being - that it was this thing or that thing? No time for that nonsense - CCP keep blocking the stupid words. Saves everyone time. Unlike this Thread - Missioner - miner - all round nice guy -
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:41:00 - [57] Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 15/09/2007 13:41:19 **** _______________________________________________
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:42:00 - [58] Originally by: Anson Halleck Edited by: Anson Halleck on 15/09/2007 12:09:58 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=** replace ** with your word to see the definition yes, cause urban dictionary is the place to see the original definition of words. move along noob.
Joolie Jones	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:42:00 - [59] Originally by: Taikun Again I must state... who of us are to decide under what context I was using the reference? was I referring to North Korean soldiers during the Korean war? Or North Vietnamese fighters? Hardly seem the place to conduct such commentary. Seem out of context for long resolved conflicts. Or was I referring to the 'clogging' of channels with spam. What seems most likely? You decide yourself. I know for certain. Taikun this thread is full of fail.
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:44:00 - [60] Originally by: Wardog 1 Edited by: Wardog 1 on 15/09/2007 12:23:05 Strange, is it not, that your own Princeton University defines "**" by a second definition. "**, slant-eye ((slang) a disparaging term for an Asian person (especially for North Vietnamese soldiers in the Vietnam War))" The word isn't offensive if for example you are talking about a sample of bitumen. Say it to a person however, and by your own institutions' definition it is offensive. which A. he did not B. is easily understandable given the context C. still got him muted for 6 hours. D. Overreaction? yes. ever thus to intelligent people in an ignorant world.
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:45:00 - [61] Originally by: Xanath Fireheart I don't think the standard of your education really comes into it. If you really are that well educated, then surely you should have also been aware that the word you chose to use is also, and more commonly, used as racial slur. You could just have easily used many other words that mean the same thing. so you're saying that the beliefs of ignorants should erode language and education until all of us are ignorant and overreactive?
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:47:00 - [62] Originally by: Usarua Overreaction? yes. But less of an overreaction to him than this thread is overreaction to an evening without access to the forum. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:48:00 - [63] Originally by: Theo Samaritan Originally by: Taikun Again I must state... who of us are to decide under what context I was using the reference? was I referring to North Korean soldiers during the Korean war? Or North Vietnamese fighters? Hardly seem the place to conduct such commentary. Seem out of context for long resolved conflicts. Or was I referring to the 'clogging' of channels with spam. What seems most likely? You decide yourself. I know for certain. Taikun The point we are making, yet you seem to either deny to listen or decided now'sa good time to insult us, is that just because you ment it in one way, the word can be taken as offence and as such that is why it is filtered. No argument about that, yet somehow this topic has decended into one, primarily because you are essentially insulting our intelligence. And ok, so I dont have a univeristy degree in english, but even I know common sense. the sense of the common masses is hardly what I call "good or proper sense", mostly because after being browbeaten people who weren't as petty as the common mass were subdued into becoming a part of it instead of refusing it. hard to fight against a tidal wave of stupidity.
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:48:00 - [64] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Usarua Overreaction? yes. But less of an overreaction to him than this thread is overreaction to an evening without access to the forum. I haul goods, this is enjoyable for an autopiloteer.
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:50:00 - [65] Originally by: Theo Samaritan Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:16:39 Originally by: Anson Halleck Edited by: Anson Halleck on 15/09/2007 12:09:58 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=** replace with your word to see the definition Hmmmmm lets see a highly expensive education at Princeton University versus an online 'open for all' dictionary. I know where my educational standard reside. And I also know where yours do as well. Let me just add... unpopular does not mean wrong. Taikun Then use wikipedia, the site that many univeristies actually encorage their students to use in research (with caution mind you). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#G replace the ** with your word. Oh look, you get an article on ethnic slurs. Big surprise there. PHAIL again, you're good at this. ahh, misinformation. when REPUTABLE schools start encouraging that practice, I'll know we're goners as a race. for now though, luckily you're wrong.
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:52:00 - [66] Originally by: Theo Samaritan Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:33:51 Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:33:26 Originally by: Kulande Luke OK Taikun. So if I call you a tosser, I am of course referring to the fact I think you like tossing pancakes. Many would agree but still call you a G O O K for clogging up this thread with insults. Thats the magic of the english language. Obviouly CCP has trouble with it. Perhaps they should buy a book or take a course. Taikun If I knew you, I'd have slapped you by now. those who cant think fight.
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 13:56:00 - [67] Originally by: Kyrall Why not just call it gunk or goop, neither of which could be taken as offensive, and then there is no problem. Or is that too simple a solution? because he used the original word in the context with implies its original meaning, and not the sullied meaning created by some half baked group of illiterates halfway around the world while they committed crimes against humanity in the name of their government?
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:09:00 - [68] ugh and now TQ is down. Love to stay and chat with you more about the moral and ethical degradation of modern world society, but i think I'll water and check my bonsai collection, read a book, and go to sleep instead. at least I got that skill train out of the gate before it went down. cheers all.
Solitude Dominia Caldari Antares Frontier	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:15:00 - [69] LOL Using vague and practically unknown and certainly generally unused meanings for words as an excuse for racial bigotry is basically like the S E X P I S T O L S using the 'ye Olde Englishe' word for priest as a workaround to avoid censorship under the law on their "never mind the B O L L O C K S" album Funny, cos your argument is also a load of old priest 'clever' people can be bigots too...... Trolling / Rank 8 / SP: 2,385,160 of 2,490,000
UPA Terf Scorn Again.	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:18:00 - [70] Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:51:30 Originally by: Adonis 4174 The word you were looking for is goop btw. No no no! I assure you the word I used in its proper context was Goo K. I will NOT allow some ill educated CCP drone to tell me proper English when they are clearly wrong. Taikun This is trolling. If you had any intelligence you wouldnt be arguing over a word on an internet spaceship forum. Thats 1 fail. The second came when you didnt seem to realise the norm is decided by the majority. Its where the word common sense comes from so arguing this point against a larger majority who see it another way is a sign of less than average intelligence. Thats 2 fails. Thirdly. Its an offensive word. If you actually did have any intelligence you would know an awful lot of racial slurs come from words that originally had nothing to do with what it means now..look up variations on homosexual slurs for more proof...g ay for example. You fail. Hard.
adirondak	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:19:00 - [71] s******dly dont feel bad they picked on you
Vuxacha Eve Defence Force Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:23:00 - [72] All the PC crap aside, just say goop. Sometimes words get taken and twisted or abused. Its the evolution of language. Goo and goop both adequately describe a thick oozing substance in most people's minds. The other word is almost exclusively an anti-racial slur these days. Had you used it in a really vanilla context (e.g discussing something in your drain?) then I'm sure it would have been fine. But you used a very well known anti-asian word to describe a bunch of people (or their actions) who are, or are predominantly believed to be, asian.
Life Machine Caldari Caldari Navy Raiders Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:25:00 - [73] Originally by: Theo Samaritan Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 12:16:39 Originally by: Anson Halleck Edited by: Anson Halleck on 15/09/2007 12:09:58 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=** replace with your word to see the definition Hmmmmm lets see a highly expensive education at Princeton University versus an online 'open for all' dictionary. I know where my educational standard reside. And I also know where yours do as well. Let me just add... unpopular does not mean wrong. Taikun Then use wikipedia, the site that many univeristies actually encorage their students to use in research (with caution mind you). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#G replace the ** with your word. Oh look, you get an article on ethnic slurs. Big surprise there. PHAIL again, you're good at this. Right, not had time to read through the ENTIRE thread...but Taik mate, you're wrong about this. Most universities DISCOURAGE using Wikipedia for research material or linking reference, on the basis that its an open source website and anyone can claim to be an expert on whatever they're posting. You can edit every page and change even slight details that make entire research papers wrong in doing so. So to say using Wikipedia is used for research is not correct. I suppose (as I don't go to every university around the world) that some may encourage use of it, but my opinion of that is shown in the fact that it IS an open site, and data can be altered.
Arimus Darkhart Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:29:00 - [74] Edited by: Arimus Darkhart on 15/09/2007 14:31:59 The one which does get my goat is*****pit - after all isn't a c o c k p i t the bit of the spacecraft our pods fit into? As to the word at the start of this debate, the OED recognizes the word as being a racial slur... -- Users are like a virus - each causing a thousand tiny crises until the host finally dies.
brakespear Minmatar Wayward Brewing Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:54:00 - [75] Originally by: Usarua which A. he did not B. is easily understandable given the context C. still got him muted for 6 hours. D. Overreaction? yes. ever thus to intelligent people in an ignorant world. Hi, Sideshow Bob! -------------------------------------------------- brakespear - the lowest common denominator
Morn Judith Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.15 15:49:00 - [76] Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 15/09/2007 11:48:08 It seems that G O O K is a banned word. Why? According to Princeton University it is deemed: "any thick, viscous matter" Whwn I refered to ISK sellers as 'clogging up the Blueprints channel' with the G O O K like spam I was censored for 3 hours. For shame CCP. I pay to talk in public... those G O O Ks do not. Taikun You are the lowest form of player there is on EVE. You are lower than any isk seller, marcro user, complex farmer or mission farmer. You attempt to cover up your racism with intelligence, and all that results is your ignorance being transparent. You claim to be intelligent, which means you must know what that word means to many people. By ignoring the fact that it is highly offensive, you are proving how little you know about human interaction. And then by accusing people that are defending members of the race that that term applies to of supporting illegitimate gaming activities, well, its just depressing. Please go crawl back into yourself, because that is obviously the only place that you matter. Oh, and don't forget you lynching rope. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:04:00 - [77] I knew Princeton was bad for the branwashing but comeon, you claim to have been an ivy league kid and not able to figure out why **** would be filtered? A for effort in trolling. -------------- Fulfilling 0.0 Ammo needs since 2 days after being made.
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:04:00 - [78] Originally by: Taikun Again I must state... who of us are to decide under what context I was using the reference? CCP -------------- Fulfilling 0.0 Ammo needs since 2 days after being made.
Morn Judith Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:05:00 - [79] Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis I knew Princeton was bad for the branwashing but comeon, you claim to have been an ivy league kid and not able to figure out why ** would be filtered? A for effort in trolling. I find it highly unlikely that he actually attended Princeton. Rather, he wishes/wished that he could/did, and is hating the fact that it isn't so. Originally by:** CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.

IC Serathu ISD Interstellar Correspondents	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:08:00 - [80] Please do not evade the profanity filter. If you wish to discuss moderation, please email [email protected] rather than posting on the forums. Thank you! \| Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| CRC Website \| [email protected] \|


Eldo Davip Forum Moderator	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:08:00 - [81] Some creating a mega troll thread for the sake of one word. The work is an offensive word for Koreans/vietnamese. Calm Down, step away from the keyboard. Thread Locked click ___ Questions/Complaints/Opinions \| Rules


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