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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:26:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: AsheRaven on 14/02/2004 22:21:54 An explanation was given.
One I think was quite clear and fair.
So why are we at war really? It wouldn't happen to do anything with the appearance of a convinent jumpgate into CFS space would it?
I'm sorry, please don't force me to choose between the CFS and Oraccle. I mine in the CFS zones, simply becasue I have been threatened to much by CA not to mine or conduct buisness there. Also apllications for access to Curse are currently closed.
Also, comments from CA members that they are a conquering alliance and empire threaten my free enterprise, and the freedom I obtained from being a slave child. My money goes into freeing more slaves and helping them to get better and healthy lives, and the CA threatens that. What is the point of freeing slaves, only to threaten their independence and free will to choose their own lives with out it being threatened.
CFS will get my support, and regretfully, if I am forced to come to war (which I hope can be averted) to war with CA (and regretfully Oracle) I shall go.
Makkar, I respect you fully, even if I do not know you that well. I have even supported your oft times questionable acts on behalf of our people. Please, don't force me to choose this path brother. This lame excuse for a war must cease now. I thought you had more important things to consider than the conquest of free space, which is technically what this appears to be.
Thank you for showing that not all CA Are unreasonable. You have my respect.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:36:00 -
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I'm not CA
I am a CFS applicant ^-^ ---------------------------------
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:44:00 -
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lol __________________________
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:59:00 -
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Guess that makes all the Ca unreasonable!  Reverend Necrona |

Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.02.14 23:40:00 -
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Quote: I'm not CA
I am a CFS applicant ^-^
Doh, scuse me while I wipe the egg off mah face....sorry mate, im not in that dept. 
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.14 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/02/2004 23:49:47
Quote: Edited by: ColdFuzion on 14/02/2004 18:55:08 Your "leaders" were informed what had happened they knew their pilots had violated the nap and we had voted to dissolve the nap for that very reason the council decided to do it. If your leaders did not tell you it is dissolved then thats your communication problem.
Also after the NAP had been cancelled we have not enganged CFS pilots in CFS space they had come down to engage us. For what possible reason why they would even do that when they have enough problems in their own space is their reasons. But at the end of the day CA had yet again fight in their own territory so keep your bull**** to yourself.
Sorry mate but our attack on you was launched after your announcement that you where going to attack us and 2 days after CA pilots started attacking CFS players in the FIX. Link to your own announcement bellow
CA Announcment
Please check your facts before accusing anyone of bull****.
We where well aware the NAP was broken by you but where assured that it didnt mean war. Funny you made the above announcement quite soon after.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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ColdFuzion
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Posted - 2004.02.15 01:03:00 -
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I was not talking about this engagement that the post is about that is totally fair. I am on about the bull**** of why the nap was broken which your leaders have obviously not let you know about. It was pretty clear CFS pilots came into curse space and podded Curse Alliance members this is the reason why the NAP was called off. No other reason to cancel it
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Scragg
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Posted - 2004.02.15 03:12:00 -
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If the leader of the CFS group would contact me and let me know who lost ships I'll see if I can arrange some aid for you in replacing them if you like.
Anyone that stands up to the curse alliance of pirates is ok in my book.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.15 03:14:00 -
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Quote: If the leader of the CFS group would contact me and let me know who lost ships I'll see if I can arrange some aid for you in replacing them if you like.
Anyone that stands up to the curse alliance of pirates is ok in my book.
It suprises me after the ammount that u have lost u still have spare to issue others with.
I commend ur mining abilities, but i doubt it will save u.
Reverend Necrona |

Sequin
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Posted - 2004.02.15 03:22:00 -
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Time to face reality people, CA can never defeat SA, SA can never defeat CA, FA can never defeat CFS, EF can never.. ETC, there is no way ingame to actually kill an alliance short of completely robbing them off all assets,killing every last ship, and killing everyone with no clone. It was shown in CA, shown in SA, shown in FA, shown in CFS, all of whom have survived multiple invasions, and not whitherd away. The lone exception was the first VA, which was more because their was a small civil war between TTI and its former allies.
So whats the point of taunting one another? It's impossible for CA to defeat CC, and its impossible for them to defeat CA.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2004.02.15 03:53:00 -
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Quote: Time to face reality people, CA can never defeat SA, SA can never defeat CA, FA can never defeat CFS, EF can never..
Yeah, you where saying? The EF can never... what? Watch it, or we'll smack you on the bum 
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Cristian Rosseman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 05:09:00 -
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Quote: Time to face reality people, CA can never defeat SA, SA can never defeat CA, FA can never defeat CFS, EF can never.. ETC, there is no way ingame to actually kill an alliance short of completely robbing them off all assets,killing every last ship, and killing everyone with no clone. It was shown in CA, shown in SA, shown in FA, shown in CFS, all of whom have survived multiple invasions, and not whitherd away. The lone small civil war between TTI and its former allies.
So whats the point of taunting one another? It's impossible for CA to defeat CC, and its impossible for them to defeat CA.exception was the first VA, which was more because their was a
megacyte prizes are dropping insanely,. war at a given time is good for the isk  well ccp recongized that and placed some nice stations and jumpgates on the map. when everyone lost his bs prizes go up and everyone starts to make money again and then it all start over again., 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 06:23:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: XeQtR on 14/02/2004 21:35:12 Interesting. The thread was civil until Dalman struck again. Let me explain something to you Dalman. I'M NOT ONLINE 24/7!!!!!!!!!!!! So how about you just shut the hell up and crawl back to the threads that actually concerns you?
There, there. Be gone.
/emote hands out cookies for everyone to eat while they wait for their anger management skill to be trained up.
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.02.15 06:23:00 -
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Quote: Anyway: What convinced CFS to attack us? Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with it and I won't start smacking. Especially since CFS holds a special place in my heart from my corps pre-alliance days. Be that as it may, isn't CFS in enough trouble as it is?
Um.. the CA battleships running around in CFS space for the past few days mighta had something to do with it. CA cancelled the NAP weeks ago, and the other morning started invading CFS space. That was the reason for our fleet incursion into CA space yesterday. As for CFS being "in enough trouble as it is" well the only war we currently have is the one CA started. Guess well just have to see how that one goes.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:41:00 -
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Quote: I was not talking about this engagement that the post is about that is totally fair. I am on about the bull**** of why the nap was broken which your leaders have obviously not let you know about. It was pretty clear CFS pilots came into curse space and podded Curse Alliance members this is the reason why the NAP was called off. No other reason to cancel it
Cold I was Foreign Minister at the time the NAP was cancelled Einherar contacted me to let me know (I then informed everyone else so yes the leaders did inform) I asked why and I was told it was due to and incursion into CA space (no podings where mentioned). I said why hadnt we been contacted didnt really get and answer.
I then contacted Mistress D'Malice and was told that the NAP was cancelled due to a change in our FSB (again no poddings) and different reason. I said our FSB hadnt beem changed and the only change to it that was in the pipeline had been voted against. I asked her to check the FSB on the CFS site. Mistress said oh thats different from what ive been told and I will check the FSB and get back to you.
In the meantime I told our guys to act as if the treaty was in place until Mistress came back to me.
She didnt then you went to war against us on a pretext.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Tansien
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Posted - 2004.02.15 12:37:00 -
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Quote: Time to face reality people, CA can never defeat SA, SA can never defeat CA, FA can never defeat CFS, EF can never.. ETC, there is no way ingame to actually kill an alliance short of completely robbing them off all assets,killing every last ship, and killing everyone with no clone. It was shown in CA, shown in SA, shown in FA, shown in CFS, all of whom have survived multiple invasions, and not whitherd away. The lone exception was the first VA, which was more because their was a small civil war between TTI and its former allies.
So whats the point of taunting one another? It's impossible for CA to defeat CC, and its impossible for them to defeat CA.
Well CC is dead aswell since Tyrell joined SA.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.02.15 22:25:00 -
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Alexandra Belani, your reason for why this war started is inacurate. Some CFS guys podded a corp-mate of mine (Devorre) and podded 2 other CA members in Cruse space. Thus intentionally breaking our NAP. That is why we are at war again, not that you logged on ur old CEO....
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.15 22:54:00 -
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Quote: Alexandra Belani, your reason for why this war started is inacurate. Some CFS guys podded a corp-mate of mine (Devorre) and podded 2 other CA members in Cruse space. Thus intentionally breaking our NAP. That is why we are at war again, not that you logged on ur old CEO....
Nope thats not the reason given by you Leaders, Please tell me who it was ? And why wasnt it mentioned as the reason, Read my post above.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Jubeli
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Posted - 2004.02.16 20:52:00 -
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So when will CFS take care of m0o in Gehi/A2??
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Cristian Rosseman
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:03:00 -
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when we are done with the important stuff., 
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:16:00 -
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Like hauling trash for their agents
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Skuregyon
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:20:00 -
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Quote:
CFS is not an alliance, it a chat channel.
great!
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Cristian Rosseman
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:42:00 -
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nope we currently mining in ca space.. how does that sound? 
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:48:00 -
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OK, anybody who believes the spin about CFS attacking CA first - please contact me immediately: I have an inflatable Tech 5 Dreadnought to sell. It may look like a frigate, but that's camouflage. Imagine the surprise to your enemies.
Really cheap too.
;-)
The CFS is well known for it's peaceful (many say carebearish) attitude and already had more than enough trouble. And then we have nothing better to do than to attack our large, belligerent and well experienced neighbour - right.
Also it wasn't the CFS that ended the NAP. And it wasn't the CFS
Amd let's not forget the 1st CA-CFS war. There was a lot of spin-doctoring then too by CA - but later a few guys from a couple of corps admitted that they wanted to stir up trouble. It's all on chat logs.
But I guess the lies are not for CFS or Eve public, but for CAs own corps - not all of them aggressive and interested in invading their friendly neighbours.
Those CA corps who don't want this war (and I know there are a number of corps and people there who are all right) - please contact your council and let them know in no uncertain terms, because we're fed up with being everybodies favourite punching ball. We want peace. But if we can't have it , we will bring the war to our enemies.
The CA started this war - it can be ended any time. Keep your forces out of CFS space - we will happily return the favour.
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.02.17 01:39:00 -
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Quote: Alexandra Belani, your reason for why this war started is inacurate. Some CFS guys podded a corp-mate of mine (Devorre) and podded 2 other CA members in Cruse space. Thus intentionally breaking our NAP. That is why we are at war again, not that you logged on ur old CEO....
Funny thats not the story Einherar posted in another thread. Yall might want to get your propaganda stories straight.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.02.17 06:06:00 -
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Ok well, it is possable that Einheriar was misinformed, or it is also possable that he simply forgot about that when he posted, as it did happen a week or so ago. In any case i am in Devorre's corp and i know that he was podded by some CFS members. I also know from first hand knoledge that CFS has been in Curse and its protectorates. I know what happend and these events are the truth.
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.02.17 06:39:00 -
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Carebear alliance attacking Combat alliance.. If that's true I demand Stavr0s turn into a Miner immediately.
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Ballsy McEatballs
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Posted - 2004.02.17 06:51:00 -
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remember the first ca-cfs war
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.02.17 12:04:00 -
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I remember it, just like m0o they camped a2 for a bit, shot some indies/cruisers/bs and said they won the war ;)
LOL?
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.17 12:07:00 -
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Quote: Ok well, it is possable that Einheriar was misinformed, or it is also possable that he simply forgot about that when he posted, as it did happen a week or so ago. In any case i am in Devorre's corp and i know that he was podded by some CFS members. I also know from first hand knoledge that CFS has been in Curse and its protectorates. I know what happend and these events are the truth.
Again can we have details ? This has never been raised. CFS had many incursions by CA into CFS space and they where all asked politely to leave.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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