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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.14 01:31:00 -
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A large group of CFS ships, today Engaged an Oracle fleet in HED-GP, and forced us away. They then proceded down into central Curse and laid siege to d87 system. But alas to no prevail.
The Oracle Group came up behind them and gathered a force from the curse elite fighting team Alpha, and some of our prime figthrs in curse, to my account all 12 ships, was destryed.
But anyway respect for standing up and fighting.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.14 01:39:00 -
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MAN!!! I miss all the fun!!! STUPID WORK!!! And I am only on my second break!!! THIS SUX!!! I QUIT!!! I WANNA PLAY EVE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!!
Sounds like CFS has gotten a little better at PvP then the last time we fought them.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:11:00 -
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Good fight yes.
I counted 3 Scorps, 2 Mega's 3 Caracal's 2 BB's and several Frigs killed for now losses.
Suprisingly lag free too Mercenary | The Azath |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:18:00 -
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Quote: Good fight yes.
I counted 3 Scorps, 2 Mega's 3 Caracal's 2 BB's and several Frigs killed for now losses.
Suprisingly lag free too
They lossed 5 battleships and 5 cruisers without a single kill?
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:20:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Good fight yes.
I counted 3 Scorps, 2 Mega's 3 Caracal's 2 BB's and several Frigs killed for now losses.
Suprisingly lag free too
They lossed 5 battleships and 5 cruisers without a single kill?
Yup, we jumped them camping a gate, got 2 scorps, they all fled, and for somereason warped back in one at a time  Mercenary | The Azath |

TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:57:00 -
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Quote: MAN!!! I miss all the fun!!! STUPID WORK!!! And I am only on my second break!!! THIS SUX!!! I QUIT!!! I WANNA PLAY EVE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!!
Hmmmm
Guess I shouldnt wish for stuff like this.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:59:00 -
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CFS is not an alliance, it a chat channel.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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scouting
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Posted - 2004.02.14 03:15:00 -
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Quote:
Suprisingly lag free too
it always is when you win 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.14 03:30:00 -
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Quote: Yup, we jumped them camping a gate, got 2 scorps, they all fled, and for somereason warped back in one at a time 
But... LOL. Honestly I was glad to see a CFS fleet move into curse since quite many CA were fighting us in stain and catch. Then I watched the map later and saw a huge number of ships destroyed in d87 in the last hour, and no signs of the CFS fleet, so I kinda expected something like this. So after all, all they did was to give you lots of fun and some modules, d'oh.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.14 03:37:00 -
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Well when u consider the ammount of experience SA and CA have had, it's hardly suprising (trying not to be smug) - i respect them for trying though. SA tend not to assault much now since evolution left. Reverend Necrona |

ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.14 04:13:00 -
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Quote: Well when u consider the ammount of experience SA and CA have had, it's hardly suprising (trying not to be smug) - i respect them for trying though. SA tend not to assault much now since evolution left.
awwwwwww you miss us Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.14 04:18:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Well when u consider the ammount of experience SA and CA have had, it's hardly suprising (trying not to be smug) - i respect them for trying though. SA tend not to assault much now since evolution left.
awwwwwww you miss us
"LIKE THE DESERTS MISS THE RAIN". Reverend Necrona |

Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.02.14 04:19:00 -
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Quote: A large group of CFS ships, today Engaged an Oracle fleet in HED-GP, and forced us away. They then proceded down into central Curse and laid siege to d87 system. But alas to no prevail.
The Oracle Group came up behind them and gathered a force from the curse elite fighting team Alpha, and some of our prime figthrs in curse, to my account all 12 ships, was destryed.
But anyway respect for standing up and fighting.
Thanks mate, it was fun :) Dont abuse mah corpse 
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.02.14 04:25:00 -
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Thanks for at least acknowledging the effort. The ships you killed werent all of the fleet. Some did manage to get away after that scatter then warp back to the trap one at a time fiasco 
All in all not a bad training excercise though. Most of the fleet out there today were people that had never fought together before, so once the CA reinforcements got there the end was somewhat predictable.
BTW I had this annoying itching feeling tonight.. you guys werent molesting my corpse were you ?
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.02.14 04:47:00 -
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Quote:
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Quote: Good fight yes.
I counted 3 Scorps, 2 Mega's 3 Caracal's 2 BB's and several Frigs killed for now losses.
Suprisingly lag free too
They lossed 5 battleships and 5 cruisers without a single kill?
Yup, we jumped them camping a gate, got 2 scorps, they all fled, and for somereason warped back in one at a time 
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.02.14 05:27:00 -
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Um, wow. I'm compelled to laugh, but at the same time compelled to shed a tear for the CFSN... too many mixed emotions.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.02.14 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 14/02/2004 12:13:27
Ah Einheriar - that explains why we spotted 5 Oracles passing through Amarr to Kor-Azor gate earlier in the evening.
We (Dark Seraph & PIE) scrambled 13 ships in 15 mins - but you had already gone Pity we didnt catch you before you ambushed those brave CFS pilots 
We did manage to destroy an Oracle frig and shuttle later if its any consolation to the CFS 
Not sure if those losses will bring the terrorist corp to its knees though it all helps 
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.14 13:00:00 -
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Seeing we where slighty outnumbered in the Amarr home system, we decided, to pull our force to another sector, and decimate our enemies another place
Good response time Hardin, well next time we will be more, but my main goal with this little fleet, was to get some combat actions, for Oracle¦s pilots, and they got it, after the defeat of the CFS group, we proceded down into stain, and laid sige to several of their systems there
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.14 14:19:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Hardin on 14/02/2004 12:13:27
Ah Einheriar - that explains why we spotted 5 Oracles passing through Amarr to Kor-Azor gate earlier in the evening.
We (Dark Seraph & PIE) scrambled 13 ships in 15 mins - but you had already gone Pity we didnt catch you before you ambushed those brave CFS pilots 
We did manage to destroy an Oracle frig and shuttle later if its any consolation to the CFS 
Not sure if those losses will bring the terrorist corp to its knees though it all helps 
Speaking of Ammar Slavers, we were suprised to run accross a Pie (Cold Lazarus) in CFS space, We engaged him, took him to 50% armour and he warped, telling us in local that "was that all you have you F'in Pu$$ies?" Needless to say 2 minutes later his Raven was kindly dropping all his loot to us .
I always thought Pie members flew ammar ships only? Mercenary | The Azath |

Hardin
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Posted - 2004.02.14 15:08:00 -
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When was this Nirvy?
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.02.14 15:45:00 -
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Quote: BTW I had this annoying itching feeling tonight.. you guys werent molesting my corpse were you ?
Since I wasn't online yesterday I'd say your corpse is still unmolested 
Anyway: What convinced CFS to attack us? Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with it and I won't start smacking. Especially since CFS holds a special place in my heart from my corps pre-alliance days. Be that as it may, isn't CFS in enough trouble as it is?
Oh well. It's gonna be fun to fight a war where there isn't as much bad blood as it is between CA and SA. Maybe we can keep it civil in local for a change? 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.14 16:02:00 -
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Quote:
Anyway: What convinced CFS to attack us?
Ehmmm, HOW ABOUT THAT THE REASON MAY BE THAT YOU DECLARED WAR ON THEM? CA logic strikes again.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.14 16:18:00 -
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well dalman, we had no NAP, and they podded some of our guys, so thats logic enough for me, anyway is fun 
so ligthen up So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.14 16:36:00 -
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Quote:
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Anyway: What convinced CFS to attack us?
Ehmmm, HOW ABOUT THAT THE REASON MAY BE THAT YOU DECLARED WAR ON THEM? CA logic strikes again.
over 1,000 people in the CA. It's hard keeping _EVERYONE_ informed.
Reverend Necrona |

Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.02.14 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Alexandra Belani on 14/02/2004 17:08:23
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Quote: BTW I had this annoying itching feeling tonight.. you guys werent molesting my corpse were you ?
Since I wasn't online yesterday I'd say your corpse is still unmolested 
Anyway: What convinced CFS to attack us? Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with it and I won't start smacking. Especially since CFS holds a special place in my heart from my corps pre-alliance days. Be that as it may, isn't CFS in enough trouble as it is?
Oh well. It's gonna be fun to fight a war where there isn't as much bad blood as it is between CA and SA. Maybe we can keep it civil in local for a change? 
You seem to be reasonable so I will tell you the story. The former CEO of our corporation sold us his account. He has been dormant for three months, and when last logged on was in curse space (mind you this was prior to us joining the CFS when he was out there)
When we joined the CFS, we purposely did not log him on because of the NAP CFS had with Curse. When the statement came out that the NAP had been dissolved. We logged him on to try and get him out.
Within three seconds of logging him on he was immediately convoed and told he was engaging in an act of war.  We tried to explain what was going on, but it was obvious that no matter what we did, his logging on was going to be used as an excuse to start a war....so we logged him back off.
IN SHORT
We indaved because of the declaration of war.
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.02.14 17:09:00 -
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Quote: well dalman, we had no NAP, and they podded some of our guys, so thats logic enough for me, anyway is fun 
so ligthen up
Thank you for admitting that we had no NAP, which was the reason we were trying to get him out of Curse space. How could we be breaking a NAP by logging on a dormant character if there was none.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.14 18:30:00 -
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Quote: well dalman, we had no NAP, and they podded some of our guys, so thats logic enough for me, anyway is fun 
so ligthen up
Sorry Einheriar but thats a fabrication. Funny to see the reason evolve in the forums.
CA wanted to rush in as they felt CFS was weak and I presume they wanted some of the action.
When I spoke to ppl including yourself about why the NAP was being broken, I got a few different answers. Our FSB had changed (it hadnt), violations of CA space by CFS pilots (CA pilots where regularly seen in CFS space) even had one of yours turn up in a gang to help hunt rats in the FIX (nice guy and he was just asked to leave) you can appreciate the irony of that one.
Why not just admit the truth ? Anyway at the end of the day we know the truth and so do you whatever forum spin is out on things.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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ColdFuzion
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Posted - 2004.02.14 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: ColdFuzion on 14/02/2004 18:55:08 Your "leaders" were informed what had happened they knew their pilots had violated the nap and we had voted to dissolve the nap for that very reason the council decided to do it. If your leaders did not tell you it is dissolved then thats your communication problem.
Also after the NAP had been cancelled we have not enganged CFS pilots in CFS space they had come down to engage us. For what possible reason why they would even do that when they have enough problems in their own space is their reasons. But at the end of the day CA had yet again fight in their own territory so keep your bull**** to yourself.
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.02.14 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: XeQtR on 14/02/2004 21:35:12 Interesting. The thread was civil until Dalman struck again. Let me explain something to you Dalman. I'M NOT ONLINE 24/7!!!!!!!!!!!! So how about you just shut the hell up and crawl back to the threads that actually concerns you?
There, there. Be gone.
EDIT: I'm genuinly sorry to hear we're at war with CFS again since, as previously stated, I like them. The idea of keeping 0.0 space open to everyone is a nice thought. My loyalty to the CA is, of course, unbroken though. I will attack any CFS I encounter but I will do so with a nice attitude completely free of any smacktalk. Good luck CFS. (Not too good though )
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 14/02/2004 22:21:54 An explanation was given.
One I think was quite clear and fair.
So why are we at war really? It wouldn't happen to do anything with the appearance of a convinent jumpgate into CFS space would it?
I'm sorry, please don't force me to choose between the CFS and Oraccle. I mine in the CFS zones, simply becasue I have been threatened to much by CA not to mine or conduct buisness there. Also apllications for access to Curse are currently closed.
Also, comments from CA members that they are a conquering alliance and empire threaten my free enterprise, and the freedom I obtained from being a slave child. My money goes into freeing more slaves and helping them to get better and healthy lives, and the CA threatens that. What is the point of freeing slaves, only to threaten their independence and free will to choose their own lives with out it being threatened.
CFS will get my support, and regretfully, if I am forced to come to war (which I hope can be averted) to war with CA (and regretfully Oracle) I shall go.
Makkar, I respect you fully, even if I do not know you that well. I have even supported your oft times questionable acts on behalf of our people. Please, don't force me to choose this path brother. This lame excuse for a war must cease now. I thought you had more important things to consider than the conquest of free space, which is technically what this appears to be. ---------------------------------
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:26:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: AsheRaven on 14/02/2004 22:21:54 An explanation was given.
One I think was quite clear and fair.
So why are we at war really? It wouldn't happen to do anything with the appearance of a convinent jumpgate into CFS space would it?
I'm sorry, please don't force me to choose between the CFS and Oraccle. I mine in the CFS zones, simply becasue I have been threatened to much by CA not to mine or conduct buisness there. Also apllications for access to Curse are currently closed.
Also, comments from CA members that they are a conquering alliance and empire threaten my free enterprise, and the freedom I obtained from being a slave child. My money goes into freeing more slaves and helping them to get better and healthy lives, and the CA threatens that. What is the point of freeing slaves, only to threaten their independence and free will to choose their own lives with out it being threatened.
CFS will get my support, and regretfully, if I am forced to come to war (which I hope can be averted) to war with CA (and regretfully Oracle) I shall go.
Makkar, I respect you fully, even if I do not know you that well. I have even supported your oft times questionable acts on behalf of our people. Please, don't force me to choose this path brother. This lame excuse for a war must cease now. I thought you had more important things to consider than the conquest of free space, which is technically what this appears to be.
Thank you for showing that not all CA Are unreasonable. You have my respect.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:36:00 -
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I'm not CA
I am a CFS applicant ^-^ ---------------------------------
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:44:00 -
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lol __________________________
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.14 22:59:00 -
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Guess that makes all the Ca unreasonable!  Reverend Necrona |

Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.02.14 23:40:00 -
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Quote: I'm not CA
I am a CFS applicant ^-^
Doh, scuse me while I wipe the egg off mah face....sorry mate, im not in that dept. 
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.14 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/02/2004 23:49:47
Quote: Edited by: ColdFuzion on 14/02/2004 18:55:08 Your "leaders" were informed what had happened they knew their pilots had violated the nap and we had voted to dissolve the nap for that very reason the council decided to do it. If your leaders did not tell you it is dissolved then thats your communication problem.
Also after the NAP had been cancelled we have not enganged CFS pilots in CFS space they had come down to engage us. For what possible reason why they would even do that when they have enough problems in their own space is their reasons. But at the end of the day CA had yet again fight in their own territory so keep your bull**** to yourself.
Sorry mate but our attack on you was launched after your announcement that you where going to attack us and 2 days after CA pilots started attacking CFS players in the FIX. Link to your own announcement bellow
CA Announcment
Please check your facts before accusing anyone of bull****.
We where well aware the NAP was broken by you but where assured that it didnt mean war. Funny you made the above announcement quite soon after.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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ColdFuzion
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Posted - 2004.02.15 01:03:00 -
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I was not talking about this engagement that the post is about that is totally fair. I am on about the bull**** of why the nap was broken which your leaders have obviously not let you know about. It was pretty clear CFS pilots came into curse space and podded Curse Alliance members this is the reason why the NAP was called off. No other reason to cancel it
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Scragg
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Posted - 2004.02.15 03:12:00 -
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If the leader of the CFS group would contact me and let me know who lost ships I'll see if I can arrange some aid for you in replacing them if you like.
Anyone that stands up to the curse alliance of pirates is ok in my book.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.15 03:14:00 -
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Quote: If the leader of the CFS group would contact me and let me know who lost ships I'll see if I can arrange some aid for you in replacing them if you like.
Anyone that stands up to the curse alliance of pirates is ok in my book.
It suprises me after the ammount that u have lost u still have spare to issue others with.
I commend ur mining abilities, but i doubt it will save u.
Reverend Necrona |

Sequin
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Posted - 2004.02.15 03:22:00 -
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Time to face reality people, CA can never defeat SA, SA can never defeat CA, FA can never defeat CFS, EF can never.. ETC, there is no way ingame to actually kill an alliance short of completely robbing them off all assets,killing every last ship, and killing everyone with no clone. It was shown in CA, shown in SA, shown in FA, shown in CFS, all of whom have survived multiple invasions, and not whitherd away. The lone exception was the first VA, which was more because their was a small civil war between TTI and its former allies.
So whats the point of taunting one another? It's impossible for CA to defeat CC, and its impossible for them to defeat CA.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2004.02.15 03:53:00 -
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Quote: Time to face reality people, CA can never defeat SA, SA can never defeat CA, FA can never defeat CFS, EF can never..
Yeah, you where saying? The EF can never... what? Watch it, or we'll smack you on the bum 
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Cristian Rosseman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 05:09:00 -
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Quote: Time to face reality people, CA can never defeat SA, SA can never defeat CA, FA can never defeat CFS, EF can never.. ETC, there is no way ingame to actually kill an alliance short of completely robbing them off all assets,killing every last ship, and killing everyone with no clone. It was shown in CA, shown in SA, shown in FA, shown in CFS, all of whom have survived multiple invasions, and not whitherd away. The lone small civil war between TTI and its former allies.
So whats the point of taunting one another? It's impossible for CA to defeat CC, and its impossible for them to defeat CA.exception was the first VA, which was more because their was a
megacyte prizes are dropping insanely,. war at a given time is good for the isk  well ccp recongized that and placed some nice stations and jumpgates on the map. when everyone lost his bs prizes go up and everyone starts to make money again and then it all start over again., 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 06:23:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: XeQtR on 14/02/2004 21:35:12 Interesting. The thread was civil until Dalman struck again. Let me explain something to you Dalman. I'M NOT ONLINE 24/7!!!!!!!!!!!! So how about you just shut the hell up and crawl back to the threads that actually concerns you?
There, there. Be gone.
/emote hands out cookies for everyone to eat while they wait for their anger management skill to be trained up.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.02.15 06:23:00 -
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Quote: Anyway: What convinced CFS to attack us? Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with it and I won't start smacking. Especially since CFS holds a special place in my heart from my corps pre-alliance days. Be that as it may, isn't CFS in enough trouble as it is?
Um.. the CA battleships running around in CFS space for the past few days mighta had something to do with it. CA cancelled the NAP weeks ago, and the other morning started invading CFS space. That was the reason for our fleet incursion into CA space yesterday. As for CFS being "in enough trouble as it is" well the only war we currently have is the one CA started. Guess well just have to see how that one goes.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:41:00 -
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Quote: I was not talking about this engagement that the post is about that is totally fair. I am on about the bull**** of why the nap was broken which your leaders have obviously not let you know about. It was pretty clear CFS pilots came into curse space and podded Curse Alliance members this is the reason why the NAP was called off. No other reason to cancel it
Cold I was Foreign Minister at the time the NAP was cancelled Einherar contacted me to let me know (I then informed everyone else so yes the leaders did inform) I asked why and I was told it was due to and incursion into CA space (no podings where mentioned). I said why hadnt we been contacted didnt really get and answer.
I then contacted Mistress D'Malice and was told that the NAP was cancelled due to a change in our FSB (again no poddings) and different reason. I said our FSB hadnt beem changed and the only change to it that was in the pipeline had been voted against. I asked her to check the FSB on the CFS site. Mistress said oh thats different from what ive been told and I will check the FSB and get back to you.
In the meantime I told our guys to act as if the treaty was in place until Mistress came back to me.
She didnt then you went to war against us on a pretext.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Tansien
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Posted - 2004.02.15 12:37:00 -
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Quote: Time to face reality people, CA can never defeat SA, SA can never defeat CA, FA can never defeat CFS, EF can never.. ETC, there is no way ingame to actually kill an alliance short of completely robbing them off all assets,killing every last ship, and killing everyone with no clone. It was shown in CA, shown in SA, shown in FA, shown in CFS, all of whom have survived multiple invasions, and not whitherd away. The lone exception was the first VA, which was more because their was a small civil war between TTI and its former allies.
So whats the point of taunting one another? It's impossible for CA to defeat CC, and its impossible for them to defeat CA.
Well CC is dead aswell since Tyrell joined SA.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.02.15 22:25:00 -
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Alexandra Belani, your reason for why this war started is inacurate. Some CFS guys podded a corp-mate of mine (Devorre) and podded 2 other CA members in Cruse space. Thus intentionally breaking our NAP. That is why we are at war again, not that you logged on ur old CEO....
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.15 22:54:00 -
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Quote: Alexandra Belani, your reason for why this war started is inacurate. Some CFS guys podded a corp-mate of mine (Devorre) and podded 2 other CA members in Cruse space. Thus intentionally breaking our NAP. That is why we are at war again, not that you logged on ur old CEO....
Nope thats not the reason given by you Leaders, Please tell me who it was ? And why wasnt it mentioned as the reason, Read my post above.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Jubeli
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Posted - 2004.02.16 20:52:00 -
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So when will CFS take care of m0o in Gehi/A2??
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Cristian Rosseman
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:03:00 -
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when we are done with the important stuff., 
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:16:00 -
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Like hauling trash for their agents
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Skuregyon
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:20:00 -
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Quote:
CFS is not an alliance, it a chat channel.
great!
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Cristian Rosseman
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:42:00 -
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nope we currently mining in ca space.. how does that sound? 
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2004.02.17 00:48:00 -
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OK, anybody who believes the spin about CFS attacking CA first - please contact me immediately: I have an inflatable Tech 5 Dreadnought to sell. It may look like a frigate, but that's camouflage. Imagine the surprise to your enemies.
Really cheap too.
;-)
The CFS is well known for it's peaceful (many say carebearish) attitude and already had more than enough trouble. And then we have nothing better to do than to attack our large, belligerent and well experienced neighbour - right.
Also it wasn't the CFS that ended the NAP. And it wasn't the CFS
Amd let's not forget the 1st CA-CFS war. There was a lot of spin-doctoring then too by CA - but later a few guys from a couple of corps admitted that they wanted to stir up trouble. It's all on chat logs.
But I guess the lies are not for CFS or Eve public, but for CAs own corps - not all of them aggressive and interested in invading their friendly neighbours.
Those CA corps who don't want this war (and I know there are a number of corps and people there who are all right) - please contact your council and let them know in no uncertain terms, because we're fed up with being everybodies favourite punching ball. We want peace. But if we can't have it , we will bring the war to our enemies.
The CA started this war - it can be ended any time. Keep your forces out of CFS space - we will happily return the favour.
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.02.17 01:39:00 -
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Quote: Alexandra Belani, your reason for why this war started is inacurate. Some CFS guys podded a corp-mate of mine (Devorre) and podded 2 other CA members in Cruse space. Thus intentionally breaking our NAP. That is why we are at war again, not that you logged on ur old CEO....
Funny thats not the story Einherar posted in another thread. Yall might want to get your propaganda stories straight.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.02.17 06:06:00 -
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Ok well, it is possable that Einheriar was misinformed, or it is also possable that he simply forgot about that when he posted, as it did happen a week or so ago. In any case i am in Devorre's corp and i know that he was podded by some CFS members. I also know from first hand knoledge that CFS has been in Curse and its protectorates. I know what happend and these events are the truth.
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.02.17 06:39:00 -
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Carebear alliance attacking Combat alliance.. If that's true I demand Stavr0s turn into a Miner immediately.
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Ballsy McEatballs
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Posted - 2004.02.17 06:51:00 -
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remember the first ca-cfs war
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.02.17 12:04:00 -
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I remember it, just like m0o they camped a2 for a bit, shot some indies/cruisers/bs and said they won the war ;)
LOL?
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.17 12:07:00 -
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Quote: Ok well, it is possable that Einheriar was misinformed, or it is also possable that he simply forgot about that when he posted, as it did happen a week or so ago. In any case i am in Devorre's corp and i know that he was podded by some CFS members. I also know from first hand knoledge that CFS has been in Curse and its protectorates. I know what happend and these events are the truth.
Again can we have details ? This has never been raised. CFS had many incursions by CA into CFS space and they where all asked politely to leave.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.02.17 14:24:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/02/2004 23:49:47
Quote: Edited by: ColdFuzion on 14/02/2004 18:55:08 Your "leaders" were informed what had happened they knew their pilots had violated the nap and we had voted to dissolve the nap for that very reason the council decided to do it. If your leaders did not tell you it is dissolved then thats your communication problem.
Also after the NAP had been cancelled we have not enganged CFS pilots in CFS space they had come down to engage us. For what possible reason why they would even do that when they have enough problems in their own space is their reasons. But at the end of the day CA had yet again fight in their own territory so keep your bull**** to yourself.
Sorry mate but our attack on you was launched after your announcement that you where going to attack us and 2 days after CA pilots started attacking CFS players in the FIX. Link to your own announcement bellow
CA Announcment
Please check your facts before accusing anyone of bull****.
We where well aware the NAP was broken by you but where assured that it didnt mean war. Funny you made the above announcement quite soon after.
Tal
Tal its not the NAP nor the MUC guy who logged on. Its that damn german corp with a 'friends of CFS' tag that killed 2-3 VOTF guys in Curse. Can't remember the corp name now, but most people equate the prefix 'friends of' with 'member of' --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |

AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.02.17 20:07:00 -
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Yes, it would seem a major difference between "Freidns of" and "Members of"
CFS would not come to the aid of "Friends of" Trespassing in CA space, I'm sure. The same would abpply to "Members of" trespassing, so whats the CA's gripe?
Even one misdemeanour isn't worth a war, and if it was constant, the CFS would expell the member forwith, making them free prey for the CA anyways.
This war makes no other sense that the territorial advancement of your "Conquering Empire", it seems. And no ammount of spin doctering can change that public view unless diplomatic attempts are first condisdered. War must always be the last and final consideration when all other avenues have been expired. ---------------------------------
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Smiling Amarr
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Posted - 2004.02.17 22:37:00 -
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Then get that Devorre fellow to post his Concord Mail please. There are a bunch of pirate corps that run around with *Friends of CFS* or *Friends of Stain* or *Friends of CA* in their corp descriptions.
Or did it not occur to ask CFS what was up first?
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.02.18 00:35:00 -
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I believe the German corp Saladin was looking for was NAGA Corp. They used to camp some mining systems in Curse and I went up there to relieve the annoyance. Once i got there I began camping the gate. I sat for a while, talking a little to them. Finally the 2 NAGA corp people there (1 maller, 1 blackbird) made a run for the gate against my battleship. I nearly killed the BB but he got out of my optimal with his 1 or maybe 2 MWD's, the maller was also almost destroyed. They proceeded to tell me that if i refused to let them go CFS would come up here and make me regret killing them.
Those are the events as I recall them.
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Silinary
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Posted - 2004.02.18 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Silinary on 18/02/2004 03:10:50 Funny you guys assumed they were telling the truth. They arn't members of the CFs, and never have. But that doesn't matter right? No .. they claim their friends... if they were indeed friends, then they likly woulda remained in the Fix. Even if a corp sais they are friends of the cfs, that doesn't mean they truly are. Something perhaps you guys should have considered before going on the warpath ... but thats ok, cause thats what CA did the first time.
In the event it truly woulda been an alliance member, if you guys look in the NAP, there are contengency issues in there to handle it. Read it.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.18 08:25:00 -
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Ok so now we have worked out that it was not a CFS member that podded those guys just someone with CFS FRIENDLY in there corp description (something FIX rats do regularly) does that mean the war will be called off ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:59:00 -
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Gehe, think not Talon. They'll startup photosjop ;)
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 18/02/2004 11:46:16 Being CFS friendly or not
I know better than to hang around Curse space. If this group possed curse members under the pretext that they were CFS friendly, you can res assured I'm sure that the CFS will deal with them for threatening the peace treaty with CA.
So, CFS, just a question here. Has this so called CFS friendly corp just made an enemy of the CFS? Cause I sure as hell want to shoot them down for making my mining enterprises twice as risky as they once were. ---------------------------------
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:49:00 -
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Who cares? Its more things for me to shoot . Reverend Necrona |

AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:58:00 -
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Ahhh, so thats why your allies in Oracle fight to free our people
So Brutors like you can hunt and shoot them down...
Forgive me, here I was thinking they were true freedom fighters... ---------------------------------
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 18/02/2004 23:43:09 Let me get this straight, you attacked CFS because some pirates had put "Friends of CFS" in their corp description? And didn't even bother contacting CFS representatives to find out what was going on? Why the hell did this just come out now?
That's asinine. Hell, there've been pirates running around with members of CFS, Stain, CA, and Venal in their descriptions since alliances were introduced and you decide to believe it now?
This is almost as stupid as the 26389709897896 reasons that were given on alternate days by CA for the first war with CFS.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:54:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 18/02/2004 23:43:09 Let me get this straight, you attacked CFS because some pirates had put "Friends of CFS" in their corp description? And didn't even bother contacting CFS representatives to find out what was going on? Why the hell did this just come out now?
That's asinine. Hell, there've been pirates running around with members of CFS, Stain, CA, and Venal in their descriptions since alliances were introduced and you decide to believe it now?
This is almost as stupid as the 26389709897896 reasons that were given on alternate days by CA for the first war with CFS.
lol, verbal wtfpwnage 
But seriously, CA are attacking anything in the area, CFS or not. That includes and is not limited to corporations that are neutral or even hostile to the CFS.
Must commend your leet abilities to screen war enemies from bystanders.
Yeah, it may be a warzone in your eyes, but that would be the same as me declaring war on lets say.. a small alliance up in syndicate then blasting everyone without event trying to check who's who. I'd of course be labelled a pirate, but apparently not if i'm in an alliance? lol 
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.02.19 02:14:00 -
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War
Another word for Tresspassing
And consider the CA are getting on extreamly well with M0o at the moment, you figure out their motives here.
And don't deny it, I was watching you guys sitting at a gate having a wonderful converasation over who you were going to pod next. ---------------------------------
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2004.02.19 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 19/02/2004 16:13:46 Okay, this thread isn't dieing until we get some answers.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 18/02/2004 23:43:09 Let me get this straight, you attacked CFS because some pirates had put "Friends of CFS" in their corp description? And didn't even bother contacting CFS representatives to find out what was going on? Why the hell did this just come out now?
That's asinine. Hell, there've been pirates running around with members of CFS, Stain, CA, and Venal in their descriptions since alliances were introduced and you decide to believe it now?
This is almost as stupid as the 26389709897896 reasons that were given on alternate days by CA for the first war with CFS. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.19 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 19/02/2004 16:18:20
Quote: Ahhh, so thats why your allies in Oracle fight to free our people
So Brutors like you can hunt and shoot them down...
Forgive me, here I was thinking they were true freedom fighters...
Their cause is noble, but your overlook one thing, i'm a blood thirsty murder with tachyons. Some people have the ordasity to call me a pirate... i'm no pirate - i have enough money as it is to not to have to loot innocents. I prefer my prey with claws and a sack of reporductive organs.
I don't fight or care about the good fight. Look what that got me back in Taggart?
I'm here to fight, anyone or anything. This is the menatlity of the majority of the CA, we just like to fight, even if it means defeat we'll have a hell of a time dying.
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