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Odium47
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Posted - 2007.09.18 16:30:00 -
[31]
Poll proposes:
Sentinel
Invader
Defender
...... (you put some more)
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Nian Banks
Minmatar
Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.09.18 16:37:00 -
[32]
Heavy Deep Space Combat Vessel. HDC for short.
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.09.18 16:43:00 -
[33]
Just call them what they are.
Battleships.
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Marine HK4861
Caldari
Seoltachd
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:09:00 -
[34]
 Originally by: Odium47
Poll proposes:
Sentinel
Invader
Defender
...... (you put some more)
I like vanguard myself.
Originally by: Dictionary.com
Vanguard
1. The foremost position in an army or fleet advancing into battle.
2. The foremost or leading position in a trend or movement.
3. Those occupying a foremost position.
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Andre Ricard
Gallente
Templars of Space
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:27:00 -
[35]
doesn't really matter what they are officially named. People are gonna call them HAB's (Heavy Assualt Battleship) And as much as CCP says they aren't, that is what they will resemble the most.
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Kyrynn
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:29:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Kyrynn on 18/09/2007 17:29:47
I cannot think of a better name for ships designed for deep penetration of enemy territory.
I know, it was an easy one  . Raep mobiles has more of a ring to it, though.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:36:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Marine HK4861
Originally by: Odium47
Poll proposes:
Sentinel
Invader
Defender
...... (you put some more)
I like vanguard myself.
Originally by: Dictionary.com
Vanguard
1. The foremost position in an army or fleet advancing into battle.
2. The foremost or leading position in a trend or movement.
3. Those occupying a foremost position.
Hmmm... I quite like this one. You have my vote.
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Arctur Gestator
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:52:00 -
[38]
Oh, I see that people can whine about everything 
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omiNATION
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:53:00 -
[39]
I'd have to go with Invader, i'm old school sci-fi like that.
Although, I have to admit, the ra*pe mobile does have it's earthly charms.
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Hectick
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Posted - 2007.09.18 18:04:00 -
[40]
I would go for the name "flagship" myself since its not taken
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gavhriel
Amarr
The School of Fine Art
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Posted - 2007.09.18 18:05:00 -
[41]
Originally by: NTRabbit
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Besides, all the other ship classes have names representing what they do/what they are: interdictors interdict, battleships are ships for mainstream battle, interceptors intercept, etc.
How does one "violate" in military parlance?
Are you entirely unfamiliar with the concept of "violating a border"?
Originally by: The Dictionary
vi+o+late /ˈvaɪəˌleɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vahy-uh-leyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -lat+ed, -lat+ing.
1.to break, infringe, or transgress (a law, rule, agreement, promise, instructions, etc.).
2.to break in upon or disturb rudely; interfere thoughtlessly with: to violate his privacy.
3.to break through or pass by force or without right: to violate a frontier.
Just because you sad little people feel the need to associate everything with sex, does not mean that words like violate or *****mean only or even primarily that. Are we going to rename the Prowler, because it can also mean "To rove furtively or with predatory intent"? good lord just like a sexual predator!
I'm personally quite fond of the name 'Violators' for a battleship designed to violate sovereignty borders, and to remain in violation for extended periods of time.
rape
–noun
1.the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2.any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
3.statutory rape.
4.an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the *****of the countryside.
5.Archaic. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
–verb (used with object)
6.to force to have sexual intercourse.
7.to plunder (a place); despoil.
8.to seize, take, or carry off by force.
–verb (used without object)
9.to commit rape.
violator
noun
1. someone who violates the law
2. someone who assaults others sexually
So let's call the new BS class RAPIST ?
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SteeleResolve
O RLY corp
YTMND.
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Posted - 2007.09.18 18:13:00 -
[42]
Call these BSs "Hayley off Coronation Street"
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Kyrynn
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Posted - 2007.09.18 18:15:00 -
[43]
Originally by: gavhriel
So let's call the new BS class RAPIST ?
YES! You have seen the light.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.09.18 18:24:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Qui Shon on 18/09/2007 18:25:29
Originally by: Marine HK4861
I like vanguard myself.
Originally by: Dictionary.com
Vanguard
1. The foremost position in an army or fleet advancing into battle.
2. The foremost or leading position in a trend or movement.
3. Those occupying a foremost position.
The dictionary description doesn't really fit the "prolonged stays behind enemy lines" description. "Foremost position" sounds like spearhead forces to me, like armored panzergruppen in WW2, while "behind enemy lines" sounds like saboteur action, interdiction (not in Eve sense of the word), hit and run stuff but not being in direct contact with main forces.
Still, after Violator, yours is the suggestion I like the most.
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Etho Demerzel
Gallente
Holy Clan of the Cone
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Posted - 2007.09.18 19:28:00 -
[45]
I am really sorry, but due to high levels of violence, this game is inadequate for 4 year old little girls, like those shocked about a possible meaning of the word which is not implied by any means by the ship purpose. (unless the tentacle weapon system is really introduced)
And for the French wussies complaning about the meaning of a similar stem in French, well, I don't know if you are aware, but English is NOT French. Just to let things clear.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.09.18 19:57:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Qui Shon
Edited by: Qui Shon on 18/09/2007 18:25:29
Originally by: Marine HK4861
I like vanguard myself.
Originally by: Dictionary.com
Vanguard
1. The foremost position in an army or fleet advancing into battle.
2. The foremost or leading position in a trend or movement.
3. Those occupying a foremost position.
The dictionary description doesn't really fit the "prolonged stays behind enemy lines" description. "Foremost position" sounds like spearhead forces to me, like armored panzergruppen in WW2, while "behind enemy lines" sounds like saboteur action, interdiction (not in Eve sense of the word), hit and run stuff but not being in direct contact with main forces.
Still, after Violator, yours is the suggestion I like the most.
It depends on how you look at it. The "long operating range" battleship could be a boon to a vanguard force, since it could stay at the forefront of an advance longer without having to wait for logistic resupply. So calling them Vanguard battleships isn't too out there. It's all in the spin, you see 
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
And for the French wussies
Die in a fire.
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gavhriel
Amarr
The School of Fine Art
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:00:00 -
[47]
How about "Transgressor" ?
transgress
–verb (used without object)
1.to violate a law, command, moral code, etc.; offend; sin.
–verb (used with object)
2.to pass over or go beyond (a limit, boundary, etc.): to transgress bounds of prudence.
3.to go beyond the limits imposed by (a law, command, etc.); violate; infringe: to transgress the will of God.
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Mortuus
Minmatar
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:03:00 -
[48]
Oh noes, a meaning that not implied hurts my delicate feminine sensibilities!!! AAaAuugghghghgg...
Get the hell over yourselves. I'm just going to name my ship R***mobile in game, this politically correct bulls*** needs to burn.
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Spike Larosse
RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:11:00 -
[49]
Meh, Violator is a great Depeche Mode album, nothing else. 
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Mekk Azal
Minmatar
November Night Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:20:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Mekk Azal on 18/09/2007 20:21:51
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
And for the French wussies complaning about the meaning of a similar stem in French, well, I don't know if you are aware, but English is NOT French. Just to let things clear.
What does that have to do with anything? Who said that this game was a english one?
And frankly, CCP had this coming since they inserted a french race and not a english one into the game.
But yea, I couldnt care less about the name of the class since its not sexist in any way. Allthough I do like 'Flagship' better.
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Etho Demerzel
Gallente
Holy Clan of the Cone
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:43:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Mekk Azal
Edited by: Mekk Azal on 18/09/2007 20:21:51
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
And for the French wussies complaning about the meaning of a similar stem in French, well, I don't know if you are aware, but English is NOT French. Just to let things clear.
What does that have to do with anything? Who said that this game was a english one?
And frankly, CCP had this coming since they inserted a french race and not a english one into the game.
But yea, I couldnt care less about the name of the class since its not sexist in any way. Allthough I do like 'Flagship' better.
The game is in English. The site is in English. The Ship names are in English. The fact that there is a French descendency in one of the game races (as there are oriental descendances in all races) is completely irrelevant here, as what the stem is used for in French is as well. Violators perfectly describe the ships' job. If you have any traumas about the word it is not my problem, neither it is CCP's.
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Xanstin
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:51:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANYTHING TAKING PLACE OUTSIDE MY GREEN AND PLEASANT LAND OF HOPE AND GLORY
So is ignorance really bliss? I mean, I've heard things, but are you a buddha or something?
The game is icelandic, translated into multiple languages, and you're a moron. Last time I checked, the ship names were rather definately NOT english either.
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Etho Demerzel
Gallente
Holy Clan of the Cone
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:04:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Xanstin
So is ignorance really bliss? I mean, I've heard things, but are you a buddha or something?
The game is icelandic, translated into multiple languages, and you're a moron. Last time I checked, the ship names were rather definately NOT english either.
This game is an English game made by an Icelandish manufacture with LIMITED support for other languages. The ship names are English. Most gallente ships for example are English names for greek gods. Minmatar are english names for natural phenomena and predators. Caldari ships are english names for Birds. Weapons and module names are all English. The fact that your interface can be configured not to be in English due to your lazyness to use the language that, want you or not, is the common language of the world is your problem.
And just for your information, English is not my primary language. I am Brazilian.
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Xanstin
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:23:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
utter stupidity
Right, if someone wants to play a game in their native tongue, they're automatically stupid lazy foreign slobs haha amirite foreigners eh.
Yeah, get out of the damn thread. The name has offensive connotations in multiple romanic languages. It has offensive connotations in English. The archaic uses are non-rape-related, but that's what they are. Archaic. It's also unfitting for the ship class as a whole, and would be far more suited to a BS HAC-style ship, regardless of which usage of the word you subscribe too as primary.
I'd be happy for a name change, not because of the negative connotations (this is EVE, murder, blackmail and theft are all order of the day), but because it's an unfitting name from what we've been told as of yet. Of course, if it turns out to be a HABS then sure, keep the name violator for the sake of irony.
Now please, stop your ridiculous derail about how anyone speaking any other language than English is lazy, because you're a goddamn idiot.
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Jan Ars
The Thrill Kill Clique
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:24:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
I am really sorry, but due to high levels of violence, this game is inadequate for 4 year old little girls, like those shocked about a possible meaning of the word which is not implied by any means by the ship purpose. (unless the tentacle weapon system is really introduced)
WTS Tentacle Emission Systems skillbook, 15 bil.
ECM Specialist
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Nian Banks
Minmatar
Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:36:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Jan Ars
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
I am really sorry, but due to high levels of violence, this game is inadequate for 4 year old little girls, like those shocked about a possible meaning of the word which is not implied by any means by the ship purpose. (unless the tentacle weapon system is really introduced)
WTS Tentacle Emission Systems skillbook, 15 bil.
Hrm if thhat weapon gets introduced, Perhaps I will call mine LoliMonster, just for a good reference to the old tentacle *****monsters from japanese cartoons.
Gotta love the tentacle, now out of curiosity is it Ewar or straight out dps? Lol.
Anyway seriously guys, with the amount of languages in the world, its not exactly easy to come up with mean sounding named for a battleship in a scifi war, without touching on some languages naughty words. So get naffed and learn to tolerate.
*NOTE: I'm australian, so don't get me started about WW2 and the French.*
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Etho Demerzel
Gallente
Holy Clan of the Cone
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:36:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Xanstin
Right, if someone wants to play a game in their native tongue, they're automatically stupid lazy foreign slobs haha amirite foreigners eh.
Yeah, get out of the damn thread. The name has offensive connotations in multiple romanic languages. It has offensive connotations in English. The archaic uses are non-rape-related, but that's what they are. Archaic. It's also unfitting for the ship class as a whole, and would be far more suited to a BS HAC-style ship, regardless of which usage of the word you subscribe too as primary.
I'd be happy for a name change, not because of the negative connotations (this is EVE, murder, blackmail and theft are all order of the day), but because it's an unfitting name from what we've been told as of yet. Of course, if it turns out to be a HABS then sure, keep the name violator for the sake of irony.
Now please, stop your ridiculous derail about how anyone speaking any other language than English is lazy, because you're a goddamn idiot.
The utter proof of idiocy here is given by someone that misquotes, my friend. But I concur that properly quoting is a bit difficult to some people...
Yes, if something is written or designed in a given language and you have the choice of reading it in that language and you don't you are lazy and stupid, sorry. Many things are lost or lose their mining on translations. If for the sake of comodity you decide to cope with, you are indeed lazy.
And there is no such a thing as a name with offensive connotations. Offensive connotations may be inferred from any word. That is the biggest failure of this politically correct bull**** that infects our world like a rotting disease.
Bottomline: the name is perfect, your sensibilities are the problems. Go play pokemon, and leave us alone.
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Etho Demerzel
Gallente
Holy Clan of the Cone
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:43:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Jan Ars
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
I am really sorry, but due to high levels of violence, this game is inadequate for 4 year old little girls, like those shocked about a possible meaning of the word which is not implied by any means by the ship purpose. (unless the tentacle weapon system is really introduced)
WTS Tentacle Emission Systems skillbook, 15 bil.
Tentacles
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Freelance Oracle
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Posted - 2007.09.18 22:02:00 -
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So far we have votes for
Violator 4
vanguard 3
Raep mobile 3
Heavy Assualt Battleship 2 (HAB whether ccp likes it or not)
flagship 2
Rapist 2 (can't spell therapist without it)
Juggernaut 1 (potentially taken)
Duracell 1
Patroler 1
Sentinel 1
Not the ship you're looking for 1
Laputa 1 (specific to minmatar)
Violencer 1
Battleships 1 (taken)
Invader 1
Heavy Deep Space Combat Vessel 1 (HDC for short)
Hayley off Coronation Street 1
Transgressor 1
Sentinel 0
Defender 0
I would personnaly suggest:
Intruder
Dictator or
Monolith
and btw, im naming mine Invisible Truth
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Ruciza
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Posted - 2007.09.18 22:03:00 -
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From November on all ships will require fuel. The violators just need less, that is why they can stay longer in hostile space. Makes no sense otherwise. Really.
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