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Poloturion
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:42:00 -
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CeneUJiti wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Confirming OP needs to unsub immediately.
I have. Two accounts less. $30 per month less for CCP to support this game for you and you only dear sociopaths and trolls. I feel much better now.
Don't worry CCP, this has been so much fun I may have to start two new accounts. |
plan q
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:43:00 -
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Hello Kitty island adventures |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
92
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:43:00 -
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CeneUJiti wrote:Five times I resubed. Now it will be 6th time I unsub. Hopefully the last.
Hopefully.
Yes, I only have a Vigil, I've had a bad bit of luck Ok? |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
14
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:46:00 -
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Why So Serious? |
Vigrioth Stoneclaw
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
23
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:47:00 -
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Wow...80%? Really? Because I would have wagered it around 60% for Hiseccers, 20-25% for Nulseccers, and the rest in Losec. 80% sounds really really high.
But I cannot support this. Yeah, there are some real d-bags out there, but I have met some decent folk too. If you let the former get under your skin like that, you really shouldn't play this game. It's just not for the thin-skinned. But this game revolves around both the honorable and the dishonorable, heroes and villains. Whether its the Rifter Hero or the Logi pilot that keeps a ship under you, good friends or worst enemies, it's a part of the game.
If you want to do things your way and progress in peace, may I suggest Warcraft? There are PvE servers so you don't have to worry about gankage and you can just go about your business pretty as you please. You'll still have to deal with d-bags though, cause face it, they're everywhere. |
Xearal
SOL Industries Black Thorne Alliance
240
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:47:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:OP, as an industrialist.....have you ever realized that EVERYTHING...all caps because I mean it....EVERYTHING we industrialists build and sell is related to warfare and ganking? Without those sociopaths there would be no market for you and all your ambitions would be pointless. So be nice to your best customers and you will make quite a few bucks. Contempt for your customers is a very bad base for business.
Confirming I've made a lot of money selling Suicide gank ships during the ice interdiction. As well as selling fresh new ice harvesting toys to the gankees.
One of my favorite things to do when I log on is go over my sales and purchases, and see if I can figure out who ganked who.
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Ai Shun
147
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:48:00 -
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CeneUJiti wrote:If you are a trader, industrial, mission runner, explorer, (former)Incursion runner, any kind of PVPer who doesn't fund himself trough suicide ganking or endless lowsec gatecamps... unsub now to make EVE better.
I am a Trader, an Industrialist and a Hauler. I will not unsub, because I enjoy the risk and the game and even the sociopaths. The times I get away from them, means I have won that PvP encounter. But then, I'm not playing a PvP game expecting a PvE experience.
This is EVE Online.
HTFU.
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
250
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:49:00 -
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Xearal wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:OP, as an industrialist.....have you ever realized that EVERYTHING...all caps because I mean it....EVERYTHING we industrialists build and sell is related to warfare and ganking? Without those sociopaths there would be no market for you and all your ambitions would be pointless. So be nice to your best customers and you will make quite a few bucks. Contempt for your customers is a very bad base for business. Confirming I've made a lot of money selling Suicide gank ships during the ice interdiction. As well as selling fresh new ice harvesting toys to the gankees. One of my favorite things to do when I log on is go over my sales and purchases, and see if I can figure out who ganked who.
Confirming, you are doing it right.
Gankers and carebears alike need... stuffs.. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Cyprus Black
Tears of Redemption NEM3SIS.
133
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:50:00 -
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CeneUJiti wrote:If you are a trader, industrial, mission runner, explorer, (former)Incursion runner, any kind of PVPer who doesn't fund himself trough suicide ganking or endless lowsec gatecamps... unsub now to make EVE better.
How?
Well you see. EVE with its "there is no griefing" GM policies has attracted most vile and disgusting gathering of would-be sociopaths with self esteem issues ever seen in any online game. lol you're thinking World of Warcraft: the bilge of the MMO genre. Wrong game buddy.
CeneUJiti wrote:80% of EVE population is highsec. It is you who pay CCPs bills; but it is highsec griefers and 00 important internet spaceships tyrants and dictators who get all the CCPs love and attentions. (Lowsec is completely and might as well not be there). WTB proper sentence structure and coherent thoughts. PST.
CeneUJiti wrote:Thanks to PLEX market worthless lowlifes can play game you pay for, for free, with isk from loot from your ships. If you were a fool who attempted to run missions or exploration in lowsec and got ganked, you are helping the pay for their game. If you are "honest" PVPer who has no time to grind and buy PLEXes for resell; your money goes to CCP to pay for their game time. What qualifies as "honest PvP"? Combat rules that YOU dictate? Sorry buddy that's not how this game works. You are not the center of the universe and you do not dictate how this game works.
CeneUJiti wrote:In theory, as long as there is sufficient population of victims the freeloading griefers can continue to exist. But in real world; when couple dozen thousand people unsub with sole reason "game is designed to favor griefers, do you think I'm mad to continue to pay for it" someone in Reykjavik will have to stop and think. You keep getting this wrong. EvE is not set up to favor griefers. You keep making stupid mistakes that opens yourself up to griefers.
CeneUJiti wrote:For ten million trolls that will leech to this thread. Thin fine line between "allowing non consensual PVP" and "there isn't nearly anything in game that is actually considered griefing and punished" is light years thick. Are you even playing the same game we are? Nothing you said so far is in any way/shape/form true.
You REALLY don't get it. You probably never will. How does it feel to know you're stupid and no matter what you do, you'll never understand? It's a rhetorical question but the point is simple: Go back to WoW you window licker.
Like my post? Made you laugh or think? Maybe even offended or nausiated you? Then give a Like. They're free and oh so easy to give. |
Ai Shun
147
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:51:00 -
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CeneUJiti wrote: have. Two accounts less. $30 per month less for CCP to support this game for you and you only dear sociopaths and trolls. I feel much better now.
That's okay, you have me tempted to start up another account now. I need a combat pilot that will eventually capable of lighting a cyno for my one day dream of a Jump Freighter. Would you still happen to have your 60 day trial key? I'd appreciate it if you could share that with me, please.
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Gabriel Mangeiri
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:17:00 -
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I hate those games where everybody is expected not to do anything meaner than hold hands and sing Kumbaya. PvP should be brutal. You should get lmfaostompwned. People should be able to beat you the **** down when you do something stupid. It's how you get smarter. It's how you get tougher. Survival of the fittest, motha*****. If you can't handle the heat, get the **** outa our damn kitchen you cry baby.
Damn, I'm a ******* miner and I have more of a backbone than you do. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
72
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:20:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:CeneUJiti wrote: have. Two accounts less. $30 per month less for CCP to support this game for you and you only dear sociopaths and trolls. I feel much better now. That's okay, you have me tempted to start up another account now. I need a combat pilot that will eventually capable of lighting a cyno for my one day dream of a Jump Freighter. Would you still happen to have your 60 day trial key? I'd appreciate it if you could share that with me, please.
You do realize that you are not allowed to run a trial with a paid sub right? |
Jerhboa
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:25:00 -
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I love these threads,
Eve players are most definitely the "Jocks" of the metaphorical high-school that is the MMO landscape. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
239
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:28:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Ai Shun wrote:CeneUJiti wrote: have. Two accounts less. $30 per month less for CCP to support this game for you and you only dear sociopaths and trolls. I feel much better now. That's okay, you have me tempted to start up another account now. I need a combat pilot that will eventually capable of lighting a cyno for my one day dream of a Jump Freighter. Would you still happen to have your 60 day trial key? I'd appreciate it if you could share that with me, please. You do realize that you are not allowed to run a trial with a paid sub right?
Log, not run. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
Gloomy Gus
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:34:00 -
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CeneUJiti wrote:most vile and disgusting gathering of would-be sociopaths with self esteem issues
Who?
Sincerely, Gloomy Gus, Spaceship Pilot.
This post has been signed and sealed by Gloomy Gus, poster on an internet space ship forum entitled EVE: gate. All Rights Reserved. |
Ian Harms
Templar Battalion
0
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:37:00 -
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"allowing non con-sensual PVP" ???? - I know, it's just WRONG that people shoot you when they can! I mean where is the gallantry in that?! no gauntlet across the face nor formal calling out for a duel? UNCIVIL!!!
Well if you ever made it to 0.0 you would find we aren't such uncivilized scum. NO! Not at all! !Before all major fights both sides take tea together, talk fits, tactics, and swap piloting tips before the FCs politely ask if everyone is fully prepared to fight to the death.
I am so sorry you never experienced this! Unfortunately due to the game mechanics of high sec it attracts a certain social scum in order to do any PVP there. Honestly you should join us in null and low sec. We are much better behaved.
And CCP should consider making all of empire space "un-secure" as it breeds scumbag pvpers who do high sec gate gankings, incursion traps, etc which makes the high paying customers butt hurt to the point they quit! leaving CCP destitute for funds.
Alas! there is the solution. As always I am at your disposal should you require any further advice, aid, or guidance to finding the much more "refined and civilized circles" in Eve.
Sincerely an earnestly concerned Eve denizen |
Zag'mar Jurkar
QC Steel Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:43:00 -
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No gankers means a lower needs for Trashers/Catalists/Tier 3 BCs, also lower needs for mining barge, transport ships and others, which means lower income for starting industrial people.
Less ships being made, means less minerals being sold, meaning starter accounts that wants some easy incomes to kick in by mining will make even less.
Gankers feed the new players ! |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
16
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:43:00 -
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OP is one seriously dumb individual or a troll of unrivaled mastery |
Isaiah Harms
Buccaneer's Brotherhood
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 03:00:00 -
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Please stay unsubbed. If you resub again I insist you join a real corporation in the game. So I can wardec you.
Think about it, this will create a mutually satisfying arrangement: I can prey on someone stupid, and you won't be killed by a lowlife "griefer."
If you plan on playing EVE as... well as anything. You MUST be prepared to keep what you got. Grow a pair (at least a single) and train some PVP skills.
For it is not the strong who survive, but the one who adapts fastest. It took only one gatecamp for me to learn that lesson.
Regards, Admiral Isy |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
240
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Posted - 2012.01.21 04:10:00 -
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Great take on the current situation. Of course, those painted with this brush will QQ like the tough guys they are. I call them "passive sociopaths" as they're too chicken to go out in the world and act out their "toughness"...or they're too puny (which is more likely).
Good post. Stick it to 'em. CCP's directorship has the insight of a cabbage with regard to this. Often I've likened them to boys who never grew out of playing in their daddy's garage. Too scared to skin a knee for real. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1606
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Posted - 2012.01.21 04:16:00 -
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"I want eve to cater only to my interests at the expense of those of everyone else" |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
819
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Posted - 2012.01.21 04:22:00 -
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Military experts are calling the OP a dense block of highly concentrated failure. Extended exposure may result in injury or death. |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2012.01.21 04:30:00 -
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Andski wrote:"I want eve to cater only to my interests at the expense of those of everyone else"
1) Cheap ganking ships taking out expensive industrial "soft targets" that they can gain profit from drops, irrespective of insurance changes which a unnoticable for T1 destroyers and other cheap alternatives compared to loot gains. Certainly quick to obtain value wise anyhow e.g. do one level 4 you could buy what you need and more.
2) Poor insurance for most T2. Laughable as a means of income protection here in most cases anyhow with cargo/mods etc.
3) Bounty system that is ineffectual at best, benefical to target at worst that hasnt been addressed for eons. Hence lack of direct player policing mechanic for nefarious behaviour. Giving cowardly gankers a nice umbrella to hide under.
4) No insurance for implants on pods. Omelette ganking becoming the fast growing sport due to KB's having isk amounts due to implants now.
5) War mechnics ineffectual due to cowardly NPC corp use, corp hopping or dropping by gankers.
6) Low skilling needs to enter the ganking profession, can start in under 2 days with destroyer. Or be neutral cargo scooper.
7) Security hits in high sec mostly useless. Especially for Pod kills. Fast ratting and other techniques can repair ship hits quickly.
8) No economic power to inflict on perpertrators. i.e. can't exclude sales or employ commercial leverage due to free market even with low security or alt use.
[cynical]Yep the systems certainly seem in favour of the soft industrial/commercial target.[/cynical] |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1125
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Posted - 2012.01.21 04:52:00 -
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Stop making yourself an easy target then. Scout, tank, cloak/mwd, don't take obvious pipes and stop mining high sec in hulks.
Victims just can't help but be victims sometime. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Roosterton
Shattered Star Exiles SpaceMonkey's Alliance
252
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Posted - 2012.01.21 05:24:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:
1) Cheap ganking ships taking out expensive industrial "soft targets" that they can gain profit from drops, irrespective of insurance changes which a unnoticable for T1 destroyers and other cheap alternatives compared to loot gains. Certainly quick to obtain value wise anyhow e.g. do one level 4 you could buy what you need and more.
2) Poor insurance for most T2. Laughable as a means of income protection here in most cases anyhow with cargo/mods etc.
3) Bounty system that is ineffectual at best, benefical to target at worst that hasnt been addressed for eons. Hence lack of direct player policing mechanic for nefarious behaviour. Giving cowardly gankers a nice umbrella to hide under.
4) No insurance for implants on pods. Omelette ganking becoming the fast growing sport due to KB's having isk amounts due to implants now.
5) War mechnics ineffectual due to cowardly NPC corp use, corp hopping or dropping by gankers.
6) Low skilling needs to enter the ganking profession, can start in under 2 days with destroyer. Or be neutral cargo scooper.
7) Security hits in high sec mostly useless. Especially for Pod kills. Fast ratting and other techniques can repair ship hits quickly.
8) No economic power to inflict on perpertrators. i.e. can't exclude sales or employ commercial leverage due to free market even with low security or alt use.
[cynical]Yep the systems certainly seem in favour of the soft industrial/commercial target.[/cynical]
1). Your fault for making yourself a "soft target." If you get ganked in highsec, you deserve it 100% tbh. Use a scout friend to see if there are gankers on the next gate. Fit a cloak + mwd to warp with minimized risk. Fit a tank. Do any 2 of these 3 things and I can guarantee that you'll pretty much be suicide-gank immune. If you're too lazy to do this, you don't deserve your assets, and people who work harder at their profession - the suicide gankers - will claim your stuffs.
2). If you're getting suicide ganked in a t2 ship, you're doing it waaaay wrong. T2 haulers should be able to avoid a gank with minimal risk, a jump freighters really aren't that useful for highsec travel in comparison to t1 freighters. On the other hand, if you're talking about PVP in general and not just suicide ganking, then this affects everyone equally - if your t2 ship gets destroyed, sure, you've lost isk, but if you destroy the t2 ship of a hostile, then they lose isk as well.
3). Oh, come on, there are plenty of merc corps which will go dec/pod people for you. Just because the feature created by CCP is shoddy doesn't make it impossible.
4). Solution: Don't autopilot around with a pod? Why would you even do this in the first place? Shuttles are faster. You shouldn't be getting podded anywhere, at all, unless you're bubbled in 0.0, in which case you're dead regardless of whether implants show up on killmails. Also, do you want insurance on ******* everything? You realize that this would help PVPers just as much as it would help carebears, right?
5). Lol, please, griefers want you to dec them so that they can wipe the floor with you in a fight. It's the other way around; when griefers dec "carebears," you're the ones who end up using a cowardly decshield. Nearly every "griefer" I know will welcome a dec from inexperienced highseccies.
6). Low skilling is also needed to start the hauling/trading profession, maybe 3-4 days for a t1 industrial?
7). Lol, no. It adds up quickly. Sure, you can get away with the occasional gank without being outlawed from highsec, but make a profession out of it and you'll likely descend below -5 rather quickly. Once that happens, you can kiss goodbye to Jita, and ever making isk in highsec again. (Unless you take the time to rat it back up again.) Sure, Goonswarm figured out a way to still gank even when you're below -5, but doing so requires friends and Orca alts, which is much more effort than it takes for your mining ship to hit d-scan every minute or so.
8). PVPers don't have the option to shoot the station in while you're making a profit from trading. I don't have the power to inflict asset damage on you unless you undock. Sounds fair to me; I can't shoot you while you're docked, you can't trade embargo me while you're docked.
9). No, it's not; it's in favour of anyone who has initiative, creativity, persistence, and a spine. |
Dyaven
29
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Posted - 2012.01.21 05:31:00 -
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Nobody funds themselves through PVP of any kind. (Unless you count scamming or market trading as PVP) PVP is a way people spend ISK. Please learn how EVE works before complaining on the forums. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
515
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Posted - 2012.01.21 05:39:00 -
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OP, I will say this in the nicest way possible.... EVE is not for you.
EVE is a game where you fight to survive (until you have enough power not to have to). It is a game where as soon as you undock, you are a target. It is a PvP server. Like all other PvP servers in all other games, you agree to PvP the moment you connect. The whole purpose of this game is killing and stabbing in the back.
You seem to want to be left alone in peace... there is no such thing in EVE unless all you want to do is count your spins. Try going on any other PvP server with 30k concurrent players and getting away with being left alone.
Now, I can sympathize... somewhat. The game wasn't what you expected, it happens. the problem is you expected it to be something it isn't, and more than once.
Also, hate to say it but the only sociopaths in EVE are the ones who think there are sociopaths in EVE.
TLDR: sorry you are disappointed about encountering PvP on a PvP server. Try a PvE one next time... |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1127
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Posted - 2012.01.21 05:42:00 -
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Maybe the test server will be more to your liking. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1288
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Posted - 2012.01.21 05:45:00 -
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Andski wrote:"I want eve to cater only to my interests at the expense of those of everyone else"
I want that too .. But i guess i will be happy with what i can get.. Since i cant formulate an decent, sensible request/meaning of what i actually want. So i just tag along for an ride.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4477
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Posted - 2012.01.21 05:46:00 -
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Another BPD-suffering person calling people sociopaths for playing a game in accordance with its rules. I'd hate to see what happens when they play Monopoly.
Humour. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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