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Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:00:00 - [1] I bought myself a cheap, end of line Plasma from work, mainly so I can enjoy the true awesomeness of eve's new gfx on a stupidly big screen :D Just curious as to how eve currently fares on plasma screens, how does it look on a 1080i, are there many problems with image retention, does it look any better/worse, are there problems with refresh rates/tracing of the image etc. The TV I have brought it 1080i, refresh rate is 50hz, will this be cool or suck monkeys?.
Janus Duo Gallente Psilocybin and Wine	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:02:00 - [2] While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT.
Phunotos Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:03:00 - [3] /me says hi from his 52 inch plasma ;) Hi!!
Phunotos Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:04:00 - [4] Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Or Maybe that if u own a 2ms LCD you would know that CRT is crap now...
Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Phunotos /me says hi from his 52 inch plasma ;) Hi!! How good is eve on 52"?, or a plasma for that matter?
Meiyang Lee	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:05:00 - [6] While i don't have a 1080p screen available, i'd say EVE should do quite well on HD. The resolution support is certainly there. Just make sure you're far enough away from the screen and it'll look great i'm sure.
Sleepkevert Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:22:00 - [7] Edited by: Sleepkevert on 24/09/2007 15:22:57 Edited by: Sleepkevert on 24/09/2007 15:22:03 Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. lets see, your eyes can see about 25 frames a second, that is 40ms per frame. I dare you to find an TFT currently being sold that has a response time over 20ms. The 'ghosting' argument is outdated, please reflame with a new argument... Also, ping has NOTHING to do with your screen, ping is measured in the milliseconds it takes to get from the client to the server and back... Originally by: Phunotos Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Or Maybe that if u own a 2ms LCD you would know that CRT is crap now... 2ms is a bit over the top (lemme guess, samsung?) Some companys use 'marketing' responce times (grey to gray instead of black to white) Making the newer TFTs seem a lot better while they aren't improving that much. Still, 8-12ms used to be the responce times in older tfts, and your eye won't be able to see the difference with an real time updating picture, and the 12ms... Sign my sig
Nizbah Task Force Zener Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:24:00 - [8] You'll definitely have to worry about burning the menu and overview into the plasma TV. Some tips I have are warm the TV up for a few days first and only play for 6 hours at a time. (If I remember right. I don't work in the home theater department.)
Morn Judith Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:43:00 - [9] Yeah, burn-in is certainly a good possibility. I wouldn't play for more than a few hours at a time, leaving the tv off or on something that doesn't sit still for a few hours in between. And make sure you're using a VGA cable, otherwise you won't get the picture you want. I would think it's up to the graphics card, so make sure you've got a killer card, even an SLI setup would be the best. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:17:00 - [10] Plasma? LOLLERSKATES! 42" FullHD 1080p LCD all the way baby! Burn your plasmas, rofl! Concord offers PUNISHMENT, not protection

Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:31:00 - [11] Dunno about plasma but it looks stunning on my 24" LCD with 5ms refresh in 1900x1200. :D SEARCh- we find sites for you!
Xen Gin The Dragoons X-PACT	Posted - 2007.09.24 17:00:00 - [12] 2ms LCD @ 1440x900.
Paul Darth Mother Corp	Posted - 2007.09.24 17:06:00 - [13] 10 year old 17" CRT rocks
DJ P	Posted - 2007.09.24 17:17:00 - [14] 2560x1600 @ 6ms (Samsung SM-305T) is the perfect resolution to play EVE :D
Helen Hunts Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:05:00 - [15] Used to have an ooooold 15" CRT. It was finally getting a bit fuzzy on text and such, so I took the plunge and upgraded to a 22" widescreen LCD. Never again shall I CRT! _______________________________ Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money. Any Questions?
Steneskoj Minmatar Intercommercial Aerospace Retail United Stations	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. lol
Gavriel Black Amarr Pandaemonium's Children	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:33:00 - [17] Edited by: Gavriel Black on 24/09/2007 19:32:59 Originally by: Helen Hunts Used to have an ooooold 15" CRT. It was finally getting a bit fuzzy on text and such, so I took the plunge and upgraded to a 22" widescreen LCD. Never again shall I CRT! i used to have an ancient 25inch crt.. it took up my entire desk, i've got a big.. desk. Last month i bit the bullet and bought a 21inch LCD and z0mg.. it looks so good, and now i have space on my desk for dohnuts! "eve is a brutal, harsh universe where nobody loves you"
Zhett Haukes Blood Corsair's The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. The 90s called, they want their opinion on flat panel monitors back. I run on a 19" widescreen at 1440x900. Not the biggest, but it looks nice.
MuffinsRevenger EmpiresMod Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Zhett Haukes Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. The 90s called, they want their opinion on flat panel monitors back. I run on a 19" widescreen at 1440x900. Not the biggest, but it looks nice. Same, the problem with getine one though is that you have to get thee more to make it competly wery wery wide screen
Karash Amerius Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:50:00 - [20] Just remember that larger screens typically need you to be at a minimum distance for proper viewing clarity. This includes both plasma and lcd tvs. Happy viewing. Ex-Merc Blog

Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:56:00 - [21] Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Hehehe, that gave me a giggle It'll look amazing on that plasma, but beware the deadly burn-in. How cheap is "cheap" exactly, anyhow? ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
SheriffFruitfly Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.09.24 21:19:00 - [22] Originally by: Zhett Haukes Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. The 90s called, they want their opinion on flat panel monitors back. I run on a 19" widescreen at 1440x900. Not the biggest, but it looks nice. for the pwn. I'm at 16x12 on a 21" crt - but only cuz I don't have a bigger lcd.
Grainsalt Free Corp	Posted - 2007.09.24 21:23:00 - [23] 32" HD Samsung panel .. Works real nice. Not a good as some of these new uber monkeys but still nice. --- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
Lilly Selous	Posted - 2007.09.24 21:31:00 - [24] 40 inch sony LCD @ 1080p = lovely.... but the text can be rather small lol
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.09.24 21:33:00 - [25] Over time your going to noice things like the ui burning into your plasma screen.. Had a freind who left on an emergency and accidnetially left his on for almost two days hooked up to his computer without a screensaver and now his desktop is faintly visible in the background no matter what he has on the screen.. And it had such a beautiful picture too.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2007.09.24 21:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Janus Duo How cheap is "cheap" exactly, anyhow? It was roughly ú550-ish, it was end of line, hence the cheapness. We do have some going from ú250 (42"), but they are 720p tv's.
Lugaid Laga	Posted - 2007.09.24 21:42:00 - [27] Edited by: Lugaid Laga on 24/09/2007 21:43:07 Newer model plasmas dont suffer as much from burn in, but its still there ... Large LCD's are superior though in almost every way (except black is never _really_ black) Also LCD's = half the weight of a plasma (well, the ones I compared a year or two back anyway) /edit bah Typing is at lvl 1
VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.09.24 21:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. CRT is not at all easy on the eyes. I'll take LCD over CRT anytime. Eyestrain + headaches = bad.
Annuke Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.24 22:07:00 - [29] I got laughed out when I returned a 48' 1080p tv..I told em it was too big Settled for the 42' 1080i cause they couldn't fit 1080p into 42' yet. Eve Looks great on it btw.
Zephlin Abath Core Element	Posted - 2007.09.24 23:41:00 - [30] strokes his 22inch widescreen LCD with 2ms Now all I need is a sexier graphics card to make EVE look swish.

343conspiracy43345	Posted - 2007.09.24 23:46:00 - [31] My screen is from 98 so I plan to get a new one by christmas.
Frug Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.24 23:49:00 - [32] Originally by: Zhett Haukes Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. The 90s called, they want their opinion on flat panel monitors back.. Hahahah So true. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.09.24 23:50:00 - [33] Originally by: 343conspiracy43345 My screen is from 98 so I plan to get a new one by christmas. If mommy buys you one kiddy I, erm, like kill things and stuff
RtoZ	Posted - 2007.09.25 00:00:00 - [34] I tried EVE on my 40" 1080i samsung, looked ok, but was a bit too close to the screen to appreciate it. Was nice to actually have space for the menus. This is what it looked like.
Ikthorn Balhar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.25 01:08:00 - [35] I picked up a 70" Sony XBR2 1080p tv a few months ago (this one). It's not an LCD nor plasma, but I'd say it looks better than either. While I do not use it to play EvE regularly, I tried it just for gigles and I must say it's awe-inspiring. I do watch the occasional EvE video on it, and those that are encoded at high quality look magnificent on it. The EvE Alliance tournament, not so much. Anyway, the TV the OP mentioned should work fine, as long as you don't use it for extended periods of time. Burn-in is not as much of a problem on the newer sets, but you never know, so I'd rather be safe than sorry. I suggest you run EvE on widescreen, since it'll look amazing (almost like a movie) and the aspect ratio won't look screwey. Anyway, in the end , it all comes down to your own personal opinion; try it, and if you like how it looks, stick with it.
Wildwa Avalon Security Interests	Posted - 2007.09.25 03:34:00 - [36] Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT.
Scrap Brain	Posted - 2007.09.25 03:53:00 - [37] just watch out for screen burn and you're set.
AlleyKat Gallente White-Noise Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.25 06:52:00 - [38] Originally by: Sleepkevert lets see, your eyes can see about 25 frames a second It's more like 1000 frames a second...
Meiyang Lee	Posted - 2007.09.25 07:14:00 - [39] Technically your eyes won't see much difference above 50Hz refresh below that it'll start irritating your eyes. FPS has very little to do with it, its how often the image onscreen is refreshed rather than the rate at which your computer produces a new one. High FPS just giving a smoother movement and such, rather than stuff skipping around. :) If the refresh is 50Hz, that gives you 1s/50= 20ms response time, that might be just a tad low. So perhaps a little ghosting can occur, although i'm by no means an expert.
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.09.25 12:51:00 - [40] Originally by: Terail Zoqial are there many problems with image retention, I have a 7 year old LCD display. It actually has the eve side-bar burnt in on it. Yes that's right, it's an LCD, theoretically they shouldn't get burn in. But hey. </addict>

Adaris D-L	Posted - 2007.09.25 12:58:00 - [41] hmm, I would love to run my eve from something big.... Big Screen vs. Small Screen (world's smallest) *******
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.25 13:04:00 - [42] Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Well, what do you use then?
NoNamium	Posted - 2007.09.25 13:13:00 - [43] Originally by: Sleepkevert Edited by: Sleepkevert on 24/09/2007 15:22:57 Edited by: Sleepkevert on 24/09/2007 15:22:03 Originally by: Janus Duo I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. lets see, your eyes can see about 25 frames a second, Not true. Most people can see above this. And I myself can see the difference when fps is 75 as opposed to 65. I'm annoyed when I go to the movies and the camara pans more than it can handle. Matrix 2 is an excellent example of this (The burley brawl). - NoNamium
Tiodus Gallente City of Certitude	Posted - 2007.09.25 13:28:00 - [44] Yep I've seen tests in magazines where they drove Project Gotham Racing with a Xbox360 on a USD14k 52" Pioneer plasma and didn't do it for more than a few minutes because of the risk of burn in on it. Static pics on plasma = bad, m'kay? I'm doing Eve on a new E6600/2Gig rack with Asus 8800 and Vista on my 32" LCD@1280X768. These tv's can be bought for abt €700 here in Finland nowadays. Wouldn't go back, especially with the graphics update coming up, not to mention the stupidly great comfort of gaming from the couch. Regards, -Tiodus -------------------- /O\ Can't pvp /O\ --------------------
Cedori Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.25 13:34:00 - [45] I dualbox on a 37" Sharp 1080p Gaming panel, and a 22" Samsung LCD. I love the 37" sharp, the only issue I have is this weird issue sharp panels have with red text, but since I basically never run across red text /shrug. It's stunning how good the game looks, though I wouldn't recommend trying to use a 720p TV because the resolutions not high enough for me. But that might just be me, and my recently aquired resolution-*****dom. This post represents the views of me, myself, and I. Nothing said should be attributed to my corp or alliance, otherwise I might be whipped with a strand of wet-spaghetti!
Barashi Nugan Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.09.25 16:02:00 - [46] I tried hooking up the gaming rig to the 42" Toshiba plasma in the living room a few weeks back using a DVI -> HDMI cable, and dragging the dining room table in front of it to use as a desk, lol. I watched one of the newer HD Eve trailers about 47 times in a row. And BioShock was... disturbing. Eve looked great, and it was disheartening to go back to my "small" 21 inch CRT. It's an old Dell Trinitron, with crappy black color and an annoying habit of not keeping the boarders correct when turning on/off or changing resolution (such as alt-tab'ing out of game). And of course it being a CRT, takes up a huge amount of desk space on my modest-sized desk. The keyboard is pretty much crushed against the base of it, and I'm forced to sit closer than I'd like to. And burn-in is not the issue it once was with newer sets. I know for a fact that our plasma has been left on the same frozen frame for over a day before with no ill effects. Of course if I left it on for a week or more it might have issues, but you don't need to be paranoid about it if you have a decent set. I believe I read somewhere that this Toshiba has an interesting way of dealing with burn in. Something about viberating the image by a few pixels if it's left on the same frame for an extended period? Can't remember, though I've never seen the screen visibly "vibrate", lol. But I purchased the plasma because it was a great price at the time, easily wall mounted, has great response times (720p), excellent black depth, and a long panel life (20 years I believe before it's half-bright with this set?). Also has surprisingly decent speaker setup built in.
Dimitri Chandler Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.09.25 16:09:00 - [47] I tried it on my digital projector screen at about 8ft x 4ft and it sucked cos i couldn't read the little writing. Some tweaking needed methinks Fluffled -Suvetar "There is nothing as disconcerting as being bear-hugged by a giant Icelandic man in a kilt."
Cadela Fria Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.25 16:15:00 - [48] Originally by: Sleepkevert lets see, your eyes can see about 25 frames a second, that is 40ms per frame. I dare you to find an TFT currently being sold that has a response time over 20ms. The 'ghosting' argument is outdated, please reflame with a new argument... Also, ping has NOTHING to do with your screen, ping is measured in the milliseconds it takes to get from the client to the server and back... I don't know if anyone answered this later in a post, but I just wanted to point out that the actual amount of FPS your eyes can see and/or percieve exceeds that of 25 fps by far, and it's actually not been proven yet where the actual limit is. The argument goes something like this: How many frames per second can the human eye see? This is a tricky question. And much confusion about it is related to the fact, that this question is NOT the same as: How many frames per second do I have to have to make motions look fluid? And it's not the same as How many frames per second makes the movie stop flickering? And it's not the same as What is the shortest frame a human eye would notice? ---------- If your screen refreshes at 85Hz and your game runs at 50Hz (=50fps): Are you sure that you don't need to synchronize them? Are you sure, you don't need to play with a multiple of 85 to enjoy synchronized refresh updates? So the game running at 85fps may better than at 100fps. Maybe even a TFT display was better. It displays only with about 40fps but progressively. Even though single eye cells (rods and cones) may have their limitations due to their chemical reaction times and due to the distance to the brain, you cannot be sure how they interact or complement or synchronize. If 1 cell is able to perceive 10fps, 2 cells may be able to perceive 20fps by complementing one another. So don't confuse "The human eye" with "The cell". In actuality, as far as the "biological limit" of what our eyes can percieve is undetermined and people seem to have a nag for tagging some arbitrary number onto them, which is something I think is a bad habit of wanting to try and reason your way through "Man vs Technology".
KtB Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.09.25 16:27:00 - [49] Edited by: KtB on 25/09/2007 16:28:05 Originally by: Sleepkevert lets see, your eyes can see about 25 frames a second, that is 40ms per frame. You do know that what you said is completely crap? You need to look into the facts. Our eyes can motion blur 25fps to look like realtime. Our eyes can actually see around 250fps+ in realtime. Don't believe the little fps kiddy gamers that say otherwise. Bah i just noticed the post above >.<
Fehz	Posted - 2007.09.25 17:01:00 - [50] Originally by: Phunotos Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Or Maybe that if u own a 2ms LCD you would know that CRT is crap now... yes, my 22" widescreen 2ms gtg kicks arse. it's like a whole new world compared to my old 17" crt.

Arkmaus	Posted - 2007.09.25 18:16:00 - [51] Edited by: Arkmaus on 25/09/2007 18:27:02 Originally by: Phunotos Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Or Maybe that if u own a 2ms LCD you would know that CRT is crap now... It takes a lot more than a low response time to make a good panel.
agent apple Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.09.25 18:30:00 - [52] I sometimes play on my HD projector in glorious 10' Widescreen, it kicks ass and theres no noticeable problems other than it makes me motion sick.
Lord Zoran Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:27:00 - [53] Edited by: Lord Zoran on 25/09/2007 19:27:49 47" lcd tv, but i havent tried eve on it yet, i gotta try it soon oh yea and my projector --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!
Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:55:00 - [54] Originally by: RtoZ I tried EVE on my 40" 1080i samsung, looked ok, but was a bit too close to the screen to appreciate it. Was nice to actually have space for the menus. This is what it looked like. That looks pretty damn cool. Damn, the new gfx in eve are gonna be so freakin' sexy
Maximillion Carter	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:43:00 - [55] 56 big ones anyone... BIG TV
Bartimaeus Kincaid	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:52:00 - [56] Originally by: Terail Zoqial Originally by: RtoZ I tried EVE on my 40" 1080i samsung, looked ok, but was a bit too close to the screen to appreciate it. Was nice to actually have space for the menus. This is what it looked like. That looks pretty damn cool. Damn, the new gfx in eve are gonna be so freakin' sexy I have the exact same monitor as rotz - and from that pic, you need to hit escape and change it to the correct resolution. Just look for the biggest one available..... then it doesn't get all stretched out like that.
Frash Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:01:00 - [57] Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Ouch, I do enjoy watching err playing I mean Eve on my 24inch Dell. Cool thing about it is that I can double it up and watch movies or play Halo 3 on it as well. Sucks to be you, huh. Don't like EVE-Radio.com? Try ETN.FM or Afterhoursdjs.com
Shinn Splintz Amarr Rejects Reborn	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:02:00 - [58] still running my LaCie BlueII 21" CRT... as a graphic designer by trade (and not very well off) i cant raise the funds for a TFT that gives the colour gamut i require due to my expensive motorcycle habit :) _______________________________________________ Proud member of Rejects Reborn
Sleepkevert Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:15:00 - [59] Originally by: AlleyKat Originally by: Sleepkevert lets see, your eyes can see about 25 frames a second It's more like 1000 frames a second... WTB your eyes! You should be able to see the lines build up from left to right on your tv screen at that rate Sign my sig
AlleyKat Gallente White-Noise Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:07:00 - [60] Originally by: Sleepkevert WTB your eyes!You should be able to see the lines build up from left to right on your tv screen at that rate Your eyes can see very photon, your brains ability to register it or discard that which it thinks is rubbish information, is another matter. This is why people refer to shocking or impacting visual stimuli as 'moving in slow motion' as the brain records and registers a great deal more information. If your brain let everything in - you would probably go insane. AK.

Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:45:00 - [61] 2ms widescreen LCD roxers. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
DeODokktor Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:58:00 - [62] Originally by: Phunotos Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Or Maybe that if u own a 2ms LCD you would know that CRT is crap now... a LCD with a response time like that will be crap, straight on viewing only tbh... there's not much differences between todays high-end LCD's and the excellent quality of CRT's.. Technology has the LCD's in a good position now... I dont think I would run eve on a plasma, Burn in the HUD anyone?.. 1080i isnt realistic from a pc anyhow.. that res will probably be reserved for the DMI link, and only if it's register'd.. so Vista + expensive hardware (or the tv is just gonna downscale it).....
Steve Hawkings	Posted - 2007.09.26 00:06:00 - [63] Originally by: Frash Originally by: Janus Duo While EVE isn't an FPS I don't enjoy adding more ms to my ping so I only use CRTs. I can't image a true online gamer using anything but CRT. Ouch, I do enjoy watching err playing I mean Eve on my 24inch Dell. Cool thing about it is that I can double it up and watch movies or play Halo 3 on it as well. Sucks to be you, huh. damn yo play halo 3 ? sucks to be you
Kritinana Minmatar Dark Empire Fleet	Posted - 2007.09.26 01:37:00 - [64] Originally by: Sleepkevert Ok, i'm going to believe you for a second... But the example you mention is a recorded movie, which will never be higher then 25 fps, especially in an cinema... Come again how you are able to see 75 distinct frames a second? Actually standard frame rate for the majority of film & television industry is 32f/s. And the guy posting after what's quoted here is absolutely right. Yes, you do see every single frame. The fact that they are shown to you in such quick succession is what tricks you're brain into percieving motion........instead of a series of individual images. It's not a matter of 'you see it or not', it a matter of how much / what your brain processes and what you're brain percieves the information as being.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.30 13:07:00 - [65] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 30/09/2007 13:07:55 I've run Eve on my 40" Sony LCD (720p panel, not 1080p) with varying levels of success. Initially ran it as Component Video directly into the LCD itself, from a ATI x1600 Pro. Results were mixed, 720p was a little 'fluffy', and 1080i was just too small/unreadable to be of any use. Spaceships looked pretty though. Pic 1 - Pic 2 Now I have invested in a proper HTPC setup (Abit Fatal1ty I90-HD) with HDMI output on the motherboard, going through a HDMI capable amp, to the LCD's HDMI. I've had to squish the resolution a little bit, just off 720p. But quality is much nicer. Pic 1 - Pic 2 - Pic 3 - Pic 4 I guess as you're using a plasma rather than an LCD, the normal things like image burn apply. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
General StarScream Cybertronic Decepticons	Posted - 2007.09.30 15:29:00 - [66] I got a 42 Plasma wich i got for waching downloaded Movies err on youtube ;) but its great for eve, even tho i need to make the text larger and such cuse its a bit far away, but it looks great. and its a great Screen cuse it got wihte wash, so if i play eve for the normal 3h a day, i can just white screen it if it gets a burn.
Sm0kE Ganja Labs Pure.	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:11:00 - [67] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Now I have invested in a proper HTPC setup (Abit Fatal1ty I90-HD) with HDMI output on the motherboard, going through a HDMI capable amp, to the LCD's HDMI. I've had to squish the resolution a little bit, just off 720p. But quality is much nicer. Pic 1 - Pic 2 - Pic 3 - Pic 4 It looks REALLY red... Why is that? ------------------------------------------------ Anyone got a good compression tool for EVE sigs?
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:23:00 - [68] Originally by: Sm0kE Originally by: FireFoxx80 Now I have invested in a proper HTPC setup (Abit Fatal1ty I90-HD) with HDMI output on the motherboard, going through a HDMI capable amp, to the LCD's HDMI. I've had to squish the resolution a little bit, just off 720p. But quality is much nicer. Pic 1 - Pic 2 - Pic 3 - Pic 4 It looks REALLY red... Why is that? I have my LCD set on quite vivid colours, as standard def Cable TV / DVD's are a bit poor otherwise. Plus I undocked in Badivefi, which is quite red. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Hilabana Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:43:00 - [69] Originally by: Terail Zoqial I bought myself a cheap, end of line Plasma from work, mainly so I can enjoy the true awesomeness of eve's new gfx on a stupidly big screen :D Just curious as to how eve currently fares on plasma screens, how does it look on a 1080i, are there many problems with image retention, does it look any better/worse, are there problems with refresh rates/tracing of the image etc. The TV I have brought it 1080i, refresh rate is 50hz, will this be cool or suck monkeys?. As long as the video card has the settings for wide screen plasma it will work fine. and remember your video card must support the out put for plasma.


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