Originally by: Digital Communist

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In the end they lost the space. They didn't have the proper attitude going in, because a lot of it was "its okay if we lose it, we're still new!". If you go into any war with the option of defeat being "acceptable" by a large majority of your membership, that is the only outcome you'll recieve when there is any pressure put upon you. A mistake you are making now with the BoB war. And initially you had the right idea of hiring mercs to do the dreadnaught work, because really.. thats the only recourse you have when you can't fly a dread. But in the end you simply hold onto that concept.

So what are we at now? Lack of innovation, and lack of organization. You've dissapointed quite a lot of people right there, but they were unfair expectations to begin with. It would be nice to see an entity come in and blitz the entire cluster in their first couple months, but the sad reality is that you can't do that. EVE has a steep as hell learning curve and the only way you'll be anything more than "NewbFleet" is with time. We all did it, so will you. But I think the even sadder reality is that many people (especially new ones) will misunderstand this and see it as "I can't compete unless I have skillpoints and isk" which is entirely untrue. My largest pet peeve about this community is the overestablished relevance of skillpoints and isk - and I was hoping a non-EVE based community would come in to clearly and definitively prove otherwise.

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Originally by: Kiko Goatbiter

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I think the most surprising thing to me at least is the fact that MC's forums are a LOT closer to our forums than the other ones we've been reading lately.

Not like any of the information was really a huge surprise Tbh

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Originally by: n0sPIG

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*yawn* nice try, I guess.

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Originally by: Ungdall

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He hung on the windswept world tree
Whose roots no one knows
For nine whole days he hung there pierced
By Gugnir, his spear

Swimming in pain he peered into the depths
And cried out in agony
Reaching out he grasped the runes
Before falling back from the abyss

He gave himself unto himself
In a world of shearing pain
So that we all may live our lives
By the wisdom that he gained

You doubted him, and spread their lies
Across the world, with sword in hand
You raped our souls, and stole our right
All for the words of mild-mannered man

You listened to mild-mannered god
And put your faith in deceitful words
Your powertrip was paid by blood
In kindness' name you spilled our blood

I refuse to submit
To the god you say is kind
I know what's right, and it is time
It's time to fight, and free our minds

Let me die without fear
As I have lived without it
So shut your mouth and spare my ears
I'm fed up with all your bull****

After a thousand years of oppression
Let the berserks rise again
Let the world hear these words once more
"Save us, oh lord, from the wrath of the Norsemen"

Our spirits were forged in snow and ice
To bend like steel forged over fire
We were not made to bend like reed
Or turn the other cheek
He grasped the runes, they're ours to use

Guess who is who.

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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Originally by: Calimor

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BoB is the epitome of gallente efficiency. They're like Dominixes themselves. All drone work while leeching the hell out of others.

Only they do it with real people without any consideration, and it's starting not to be as efficient as they want to.

Edit: And Dominixes are much cooler.

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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... its been said before but its worth repeating...

AT LEAST THEY HAVE THE BALLS TO POST WITH THEIR MAINS....

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Originally by: Seleene

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With our compliments.

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Originally by: Orree

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Edited by: Orree on 27/09/2007 22:49:40

Originally by: Seleene

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Oh dear, people have opinions and frustrations!!

Confirmed. Every single word. You think these things haven't already been said in private as well? BoB has thier way, we have ours. It's not a match made in heaven.

Oh, Diana is an idiot and Cleist yells too much.

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Frankly, I'd be less concerned, even comfortable if it came out in a series of posts that everyone was still drinking the Kool-Aid (to the extent they ever were).

I find the public posting of private forum material to be pretty distasteful. However, these were an interesting read. These posts show that there's a healthy amount of critical thinking and free exhange of ideas within MC about what it is doing. That's a good thing. It shows group-think is not much of a problem. It also shows that you can't necessarily be sure what MC is doing or what they are willing to do.

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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Originally by: ShaniquaBaby

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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goons do nothing on these forums but spam to further their own childish agenda to "ruin EVE". I'll fully admit that I'm a former MC member who's in BoB now, I'm posting on an alt because posting in CAOD on any character in BoB has been forbidden so don't get mad at me for posting on an alt.

I think what people have to understand here is that goons aren't just another BoB, they're insects. They're lesser people. They're half brained nitwits, and they longer you people ignore this and continue to allow their alliance to survive, the more terrible the consequences will be. I'd suggest you guys take up arms against the goons and fight back, but most of u are just lemmings who wouldn't listen to reason anyway. BoB and MC will continue to fight together to save EVE from these idiots, I can only hope some of you others will come to realize what it means if they win.

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Originally by: Jhyme

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To be honest, after reading this, I have more respect for Mercenary Coalition. Not just because they're being critical of Band of Brothers, but it's pretty evident that they value voicing individual opinion, dissent, and critical thinking.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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... its been said before but its worth repeating...

AT LEAST THEY HAVE THE BALLS TO POST WITH THEIR MAINS....

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Originally by: Decidis

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Originally by: Seleene

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With our compliments.

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My respect for you and MC has grown.

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Originally by: OldPueblo

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Originally by: ShaniquaBaby

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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goons do nothing on these forums but spam to further their own childish agenda to "ruin EVE". I'll fully admit that I'm a former MC member who's in BoB now, I'm posting on an alt because posting in CAOD on any character in BoB has been forbidden so don't get mad at me for posting on an alt.

I think what people have to understand here is that goons aren't just another BoB, they're insects. They're lesser people. They're half brained nitwits, and they longer you people ignore this and continue to allow their alliance to survive, the more terrible the consequences will be. I'd suggest you guys take up arms against the goons and fight back, but most of u are just lemmings who wouldn't listen to reason anyway. BoB and MC will continue to fight together to save EVE from these idiots, I can only hope some of you others will come to realize what it means if they win.

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QFT, my two kids said the exact same thing while I was kicking over their blocks yelling FOFOFOFOFOFO.

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Originally by: Silence Duegood

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So Goons create a post on CAOD proving that MC think for themselves, support individual thought and opinion, and are truly independent.

Irony.

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Originally by: Dogged

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Originally by: Silence Duegood

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So Goons create a post on CAOD proving that MC think for themselves, support individual thought and opinion, and are truly independent.

Irony.

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You really don't get the big picture do you

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Originally by: Silence Duegood

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Originally by: Dogged

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Originally by: Silence Duegood

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So Goons create a post on CAOD proving that MC think for themselves, support individual thought and opinion, and are truly independent.

Irony.

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You really don't get the big picture do you

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Nice strawman. Disprove my statement.

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Originally by: ShaniquaBaby

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Originally by: Reppy1

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Seriously goons need to die just to shut up the CAOD useless and pointless spamming, they have ruined any and all enjoyment anyone had in reading this, most of the time taken up is filtering through goon spam... if anything good comes out of this war it will be the death of goonswarm

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goons do nothing on these forums but spam to further their own childish agenda to "ruin EVE". I'll fully admit that I'm a former MC member who's in BoB now, I'm posting on an alt because posting in CAOD on any character in BoB has been forbidden so don't get mad at me for posting on an alt.

I think what people have to understand here is that goons aren't just another BoB, they're insects. They're lesser people. They're half brained nitwits, and they longer you people ignore this and continue to allow their alliance to survive, the more terrible the consequences will be. I'd suggest you guys take up arms against the goons and fight back, but most of u are just lemmings who wouldn't listen to reason anyway. BoB and MC will continue to fight together to save EVE from these idiots, I can only hope some of you others will come to realize what it means if they win.

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Originally by: CrispyKritters

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Originally by: Silence Duegood

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Originally by: Dogged

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Originally by: Silence Duegood

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So Goons create a post on CAOD proving that MC think for themselves, support individual thought and opinion, and are truly independent.

Irony.

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You really don't get the big picture do you

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Nice strawman. Disprove my statement.

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You have to back up your own statement before someone can try to disprove it.

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Originally by: Ajja 17

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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... its been said before but its worth repeating...

AT LEAST THEY HAVE THE BALLS TO POST WITH THEIR MAINS....

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Are you sure? Reppy1 could be a goon alt...

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