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Skelator
Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: shortspecialbus Edited by: shortspecialbus on 28/09/2007 05:12:36
Originally by: violator2k5
Originally by: Surreptitious The MC is a glass-half-full kindof place so it might not seem so obvious but morale and the general attitude has never been this low,,even back during the whole Zajo/TC/NSN fiasco.
let it rest, z's moved on and im sure MC has too.....
anyway quick question for you goonies.... you got a date set for when your so called dinner in nol will be yet so we can actually see if you achieve that goal??
You tell us, you control the way we play the game
        
Our Knights/GhostFleet are available for small honorable contracts.
Phasmatis Velox Equitatus
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 07:52:00 -
[272]
I don't know why so many people think we're trying to tarnish MC's reputation here. It's BoB we're laughing at.
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Anglo
Minmatar Astral Mexicans
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Posted - 2007.09.28 07:52:00 -
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Fix is not good at pvp. they cant don anything wihtout bob, mc.. bob knows this and so does MC. however, i like to see that **** happends in those major pvp alliances too.. and by god i hope bob dies. BUT when that is said.. i hope also goons dies. because they are a even worse trhead to eve than bob is.. i dont like the arogant atitude bob have but i dont like the smacky atitude goos have! so that leaves me just one thing in mind.. MC is the best alliance in eve. or maybe even the Rusians they syre as hell seem worthy of owning big time!
MC selene thx for goin out here on forum not flaming and **** due to the fact someone leacked intel. i liked your intel. nice to see the real persons behind it all..
MC ftw!!
Rusians ftw!!
MC/Redskies form up and kick bob ? mmmm this would be very damn nice! teach em that there arogant behaviour sucks...
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Keeves
Minmatar Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.09.28 08:17:00 -
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Just scanning through this thread ive seen people say that BoB, MC, Fix, IAC, AAA, Goonies, and Rise all suck at pvp... Well, it looks like im gonna have to fly into 0.0 and finish this war for you all. My personal killboard will be up shortly.
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: ShaniquaBaby goons are LESSER PEOPLE
My vote only counts for 3/5's of a normal persons
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Myz Toyou
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 08:36:00 -
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These internal forum copy/paste thing is sooo 2006 but it has something amusing if its not your own or your allies stuff you find in CAOD 
Don`t you think the same BOB and Co. ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
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Arl
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:13:00 -
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This forum thread deserves my applause. I haven't read so much of a corporations forum thread so thoroughly in what seems like an eternity - and its a great reminder that I still care about EVE.
To answer the question "where did the GBC go wrong?" by itself is impossible. Go wrong at what? To people like Seleene, they failed to bring a new angle of thinking to what they deem as an old and jaded community. They are upset the opportunity to do something entirely new was squandered. Instead they fell into the same habits that I see a thousand other corporations making. I'm sure some BoB will disagree, but the simple fact that you are new to EVE and everything is new to YOU does not mean we haven't seen it all before.
Your tactics, your leadership, your structure, your loyalty, your approach. None of it is unique, despite believing the contrary, and I think if there was ever an expert on radical thought it would be Seleene.
So the first failure of expectation is innovation. I say expectation, because that is what some people wanted to see. It doesn't mean that BoB was trying to innovate in the first place or that they should innovate, because after all, the standard and established norms which Seleene find stagnant are generally the ones that have mass appeal. They simply wanted to provide a stable and friendly environment for newbies to flourish in, and you can't do that with wild ideas which are harder to grasp than the game itself - unless your leader is more charismatic than Jesus and has the intellect of Einstein and the cunning of Sun Tzu. To see 2000+ people running around with radical political viewpoints and unorthodox (non-metagaming) strategies would be quite the sight. In fact, I'd real money to see that just because it would turn EVE on its freaking head. And I'm sure that making public my own personal dissapointment, and having my ideaologies associated with Seleene will cause me violent fits of vomiting for many nights to come. Sorry Seleene :)
The second reason why people's expectations were let down with BoB was their inability to capitalize on the tiny foothold they were given into 0.0 politics/warfare (through sheer luck, might I add) in any sort of long term capacity. They sorta had it, and then they didn't. For this, I squarely blame the current leadership - Sir Molle. He may have the ability to stir up the GBC, but you can't expect to have any long term success without the planning, logistics and sheer political cunning to go along with it. This internal drama posted on E-O boards between Sir Molle and MC perfectly exemplifies his inability to accept that HE ALONE IS NOT GBC. He may have created it, he may have the powers to destroy it. All corporations go through creation and destruction (eventually) and what matters is what you do in between. Sir Molle simply doesn't have the patience/stamina for it. The cold hard truth is that he likely created GBC as his own personal shortcut to the success/fame he's been unable to grasp in the last three years on his own.
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ChoppinBrocolli
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Arl :words:
I see what you did there.
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Zion Lior
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:45:00 -
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shut up Arl.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:12:00 -
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this is a great popcorn thread 
oh and BOB ... karma is a female dog isnt it   
Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: FGxHalsey All this despair and The Eye of Terror hasn't even opened yet.
Just out of curiousity. Is there a special "thing" going on with GS and WH 40k?. I've seen alot of references and pictures in GS posts and forums and stuff taken from the 40k universe. 
Goons somewhat remind me of nurglings  ------------------------------------------------
New idea for sovereignty: Sovereignty revisited |

Indomitus Rex
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Indomitus Rex on 28/09/2007 10:28:55
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: FGxHalsey All this despair and The Eye of Terror hasn't even opened yet.
Just out of curiousity. Is there a special "thing" going on with GS and WH 40k?. I've seen alot of references and pictures in GS posts and forums and stuff taken from the 40k universe. 
Goons somewhat remind me of nurglings 
Blood for the Blood God, biatch! Grandfather Nurgle can suck it! Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug |

Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:50:00 -
[283]
thou thread delivereth
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5dollah
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: 5dollah on 28/09/2007 10:56:27 wrong char !
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:57:00 -
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LoL, made me giggle.
You dont think our comms are the same ? Two different alliances working together usually brings out these things, unlike others we work through our differences cos we have a job to do. 
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal LoL, made me giggle.
You dont think our comms are the same ? Two different alliances working together usually brings out these things, unlike others we work through our differences cos we have a job to do. 
Yea made me giggle also. Its sooo funny Picture
Image changed to link as you may only have 1 image in your signature. -Yipsilanti ([email protected])
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Shimrod
Minmatar Greyskulls
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: FGxHalsey All this despair and The Eye of Terror hasn't even opened yet.
Just out of curiousity. Is there a special "thing" going on with GS and WH 40k?. I've seen alot of references and pictures in GS posts and forums and stuff taken from the 40k universe. 
I think this is the main reason goons seem to have no clue how to play eve and just forum troll allday, coming from a 40k background where highest on a d6 wins you cant expect them to say or do anything remotely intelligent..
Am sure the fact they cant paint there ships is upsetting them also.
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Lewter Vandros
Gallente Split Infinity
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:22:00 -
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Reading the OP all i can say is congratulatons on proving MC are not BOB pets. This post only serves to prove MC are hired to do a job and will do that job wether they like it or not. Some people in MC may not like the way things are going or like what the employer does but they are not silenced. BOB hired MC to do a job MC are doing that job. As usual goons are spewing all over the forums about how bad this is but TBQH all you have done is prove the opposite of the rubbish you have posted about MC being bobbites.
On a side note could some one ask RA if they can run a complex in "thier own space" and can we have the reply posted here ? just to gauge just how pally you all are.
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Papa Ina
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zion Lior shut up Arl.
Like quite a few things recently, you didn't get that did you?
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Rabbit Boiler
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: arghy steelwill At least MC allows their members to express their thoughts unlike goonfleet.com which silences its members the second they disagree with the status quo!!! Also laffo if BoB thinks they can push IAAAC back before we gobble their bridge home- RMF is dead RISE is dead we are going to pound anything in our path. If your lucky you might bring FAT to neutral while we secure 6 stations from your pets- then you'll pull back and lose FAT and watch FIX burn while you try to hold us off.
Now I can't sleep. This guy is ******* scary. Goons should get him a shrink.
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Silvestri
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Silvestri on 28/09/2007 12:04:03
Originally by: Vasili Z Edited by: Vasili Z on 28/09/2007 00:22:16 Ya Seleene, you've got points in my book for proving, what you've been saying for years, things that I refused to believe religiously because you were my enemy.
(For illiterate people, this post is sarcastic)
I bet nobody caught this but..(page 7)..why the hell does a YOUWHAT member have a MC sig??? I'm sure MC doesn't just give these away as I still respect MC. Gotta earn there sig tbh.... Still....respect to MC as I can't think anyone I've been shoosting as long as you...maybe FIX and RISE...
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shimrod
Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: FGxHalsey All this despair and The Eye of Terror hasn't even opened yet.
Just out of curiousity. Is there a special "thing" going on with GS and WH 40k?. I've seen alot of references and pictures in GS posts and forums and stuff taken from the 40k universe. 
I think this is the main reason goons seem to have no clue how to play eve and just forum troll allday, coming from a 40k background where highest on a d6 wins you cant expect them to say or do anything remotely intelligent..
Am sure the fact they cant paint there ships is upsetting them also.
here's a tissue
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shimrod
Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: FGxHalsey All this despair and The Eye of Terror hasn't even opened yet.
Just out of curiousity. Is there a special "thing" going on with GS and WH 40k?. I've seen alot of references and pictures in GS posts and forums and stuff taken from the 40k universe. 
I think this is the main reason goons seem to have no clue how to play eve and just forum troll allday, coming from a 40k background where highest on a d6 wins you cant expect them to say or do anything remotely intelligent..
Am sure the fact they cant paint there ships is upsetting them also.
FNLN always gets his.
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lewter Vandros Reading the OP all i can say is congratulatons on proving MC are not BOB pets. This post only serves to prove MC are hired to do a job and will do that job wether they like it or not. Some people in MC may not like the way things are going or like what the employer does but they are not silenced. BOB hired MC to do a job MC are doing that job. As usual goons are spewing all over the forums about how bad this is but TBQH all you have done is prove the opposite of the rubbish you have posted about MC being bobbites.
On a side note could some one ask RA if they can run a complex in "thier own space" and can we have the reply posted here ? just to gauge just how pally you all are.
They might not be pets but they are allied and are not paying them to fight.
MC was neutral up to a point, but that went out the window when AAA/goons/ra and anyone else i forgot jumped into their homesystem and shot their capital array.
And just to quote from the original thread:
Quote: One last thing to any of you who doubt it - My loyalty is to the MC, to YOU. BoB is in no way, shape or form in control of me or this alliance. We are involved right now because I think everyone here agrees that it's time to put the nails in IAC's coffin and finish things. We picked up new land as part of the deal and are continuing to build profitable relationships with long time friends.
So dont come here and tell us that MC are neutral.
Bob and MC need eachother it`s that simple. MC pull out, it will only be question of time until bob are run over. And if bob are run over I cant see MC continue to excist the way they are today. Unless they make a deal, but thats highly unlikely. If bob pulls out, it`s all over.
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Arl
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Zion Lior shut up Arl.
It's from this thread, slightly reworded
Another example.
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
But you know what would make me feel really bad is if all 12000 of those words turned out to be COMPLETELY WRONG. I feel relieved there is no threat of that happening now ^^
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Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Shimrod
I think this is the main reason goons seem to have no clue how to play eve and just forum troll allday, coming from a 40k background where highest on a d6 wins you cant expect them to say or do anything remotely intelligent..
Am sure the fact they cant paint there ships is upsetting them also.
Did you just troll a troll in a troll thread? EPIC...
oh wait.. no... it's more like Warhammer fantasy... with all the trolls..
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:10:00 -
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excellent post OP.
Very little on these boards has given me greater encouragement about BOB and allies determination to win this war.
Clearly they are thinking about how to improve and people are not afraid to talk openly about it.
Finally the Goons get it, MC are not BOB pets. How many months have we had to listen to pet this pet that. Its been a running joke Goons lack of understanding of relationships that exist within the GBC.
For most Goonies and their friends this will change nothing.
There are none so blind as those that will not see.
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Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345 |

Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:16:00 -
[298]
uh oh
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Darkstar BP
Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Man excellent post OP.
Clearly they are thinking about how to improve and people are not afraid to talk openly about it.
Lol, nice spin. Tonight's topic: how can we keep our Titan's alive, a fireside chat between Thulsa Doom en Shrike.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 28/09/2007 13:23:43
Originally by: Elder Bob
Originally by: Zion Lior just to make it clear, banned from evo not from anything else you dastardly dog you.
Quoting comedy.
Hi HippoKing. Last time i checked you were still banned from eve-o.
His sale thread on SHC - linky, which links to this linky.
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