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Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:08:00 -
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While searching for techniques to grief in Hello Kitty Online I found the following link.
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Griefers are jerks because...
Quote: But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |

VicturusTeSaluto
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:28:00 -
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Pirates are the nicest people in the game and carebears are just a bunch of bitter, selfish *******s. 
Also there is no such thing as griefing, just a bull**** made up word.
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Modrak Vseth
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666 While searching for techniques to grief in Hello Kitty Online I found the following link.
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Griefers are jerks because...
Quote: But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems.
That would assume that pirates are griefers, which isn't always true...
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Corwain
Gallente Kamite
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:31:00 -
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Um...well pirates aren't griefers as the definition of a griefer is someone who plays the game only to make others miserable. Last I checked nearly all the pirates I know in EVE are laid back relaxed guys that like to get on a computer sometimes and pretend they're futuristic space pirates and have battles in their spaceships. In fact most pirates are much cooler that the stick-in-their-ass carebears that I know who play only to make virtual money to buy more and more expensive imaginary stuff that inevitably gets blown up. Said person is stupid and thinks for some reason that despite the fact that everything in EVE eventually blows up their stuff won't. They also think that the pirate did it just to make them miserable...
That article are about greifers, if anything I'd say that carebears are the griefers in EVE online. -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain |

Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:34:00 -
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All I managed to determine from that article is that psychiatrist's are whiny carebears trying to find reasons to make themselves feel better about being crap at pvp.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |

Avaricia
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Avaricia on 28/09/2007 00:36:58
Quote: But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems, or simply like pretty explosions.
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:39:00 -
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Well, carebears mine rocks and psychiatrist mine your mind.
Maybe there is a relation here.
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Hunters Presence
Amarr Nuclear Engagement
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Avaricia Edited by: Avaricia on 28/09/2007 00:36:58
Quote: But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems, or simply like pretty explosions.
Mmmm, pretty explosions.
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:16:00 -
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I love the psychobabble explanations for 'acting mean' in online games.
No, the guy who blew up your hauler isn't a depraved antisocial freak, he's just a regular guy having fun at your expense. It's a game, nothing you do here will ever really matter, so get over yourself.
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Stephannus Calimben
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:17:00 -
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i love how the carebears sit in a belt for hours on end watching their cargo hold fill up with ore then dropping it into a can...and us pirates spend our time online seeking hair raising battles and loot
...and yet WE'RE the ones with psychiatric problems.
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Stephannus Calimben i love how the carebears sit in a belt for hours on end watching their cargo hold fill up with ore then dropping it into a can...and us pirates spend our time online seeking hair raising battles and loot
...and yet WE'RE the ones with psychiatric problems.
Tell me about it. I used to mine. I nearly quit when I logged on one night and realized I was sitting in front of a bunch of goddamn space rocks for hours just to make a number go up. What a waste of neurons.
Now I kill people. 
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Jirai Tew'rist
Caldari Tew'rist Funds Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:22:00 -
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Hmmm, mining = Brain cell destroyer, Psychiatrist = Brain cell's destroyed. Carebear's I think are in more need of this type of help. In my short history in EvE, almost 99% of the people that got harrased were actually asking for it.
EVE is not for the faint of heart, well not most of the time. Some of the "bears" are lucky/smart enough to not get attacked.
People are out there from high sec can flippers, to 0,0 blob squads to show new people the ropes. If you didn't know, don't care, or just want to be left alone, you'll soon find out that someone will invite themselves to teach you the things you need to know. Can't be ignorant in the game forever, because someone will end up making you their student.
Anyways, that link to that article totally melted some brain cells.
Time to go do something about it... -----
=/ sig got nerfed... Oh well, no time to make another uber one... |

Darkopteron
Righteous-Indignation FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:24:00 -
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Face it, everyone's a jerk. You, me, these jerks...
It's just human nature to give grief.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: hellsknights Well, carebears molest rocks and psychiatrist molest your head.
Maybe there is a relation here.
Fixed 
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
Originally by: TheDagda *click* For the love of the jovians stops necroing
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Smacktalking Alt
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Smacktalking Alt on 28/09/2007 01:33:49 Well I read it, and it was interesting, but it also seems like the theoretical ramblings of a psychiatrist. Experimental psychology and the Scientific Method exist for a reason.
And second, I wonder what this psychiatrist would conclude about people who are so invested in a game that they become extremely distraught when their virtual property(well in most cases it isn't even their property) is destroyed.
Originally by: Darkopteron It's just human nature to give grief.
Now that I don't agree with. |

zilllii
Squirrel Power
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Posted - 2007.09.28 02:32:00 -
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considering the type of eve-mails that pirates get from carebears after they have killed the carebears i sometimes wonder who really is the disturbed psycothic weirdo's
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Love the new need for speed initiative.
Pilots involved in a fleet battle can post on the forum and get a reply about wha
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Avaricia
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.09.28 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Avaricia on 28/09/2007 02:44:48
Originally by: zilllii considering the type of eve-mails that pirates get from carebears after they have killed the carebears i sometimes wonder who really is the disturbed psycothic weirdo's
qft. Could it be the people paying $15/month to play magical online spacerock mining simulator 2007? nooooo.... clearly the mentally unhealthy people in this equation are the ones having fun shooting at stuff.
Carebears 
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Fafnir Drake
Gallente Boob Heads Haud Terminus
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Posted - 2007.09.28 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: zilllii considering the type of eve-mails that pirates get from carebears after they have killed the carebears i sometimes wonder who really is the disturbed psycothic weirdo's
Lucky. I havn't got any hate mails. Although did get a convo from a guy who watched a buddy pop (he didn't have a warp jammer) and me get away. He apologized for the crap the mark gave me in local, saying he was new to the game, and still needed to learn the PvP aspect is a key thing. I refunded the new guy. Figured why not. My conscience annoys me at times. I havn't found a way to kill it completely yet . Any tips for this?  ------ "Arguing over the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still ********." |

hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: hellsknights Well, carebears molest rocks and psychiatrist molest your head.
Maybe there is a relation here.
Fixed 
Thank you.
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Krows
Resource Reallocators Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.28 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: zilllii considering the type of eve-mails that pirates get from carebears after they have killed the carebears i sometimes wonder who really is the disturbed psycothic weirdo's
QFT I've never once received hate mail that was well-written and actually made sense. My favorite so far is, "YO BRO NEX TIME I SEE U U BETTER RUN LIKE HELL," In high-sec. I don't mess with miners to **** them off, I do it because it entertains me and my wallet grows larger while I'm having fun and potentially killing an osprey; but I don't grief, goddamn carebears.
What I say here... does not reflect on my corp or alliance. |
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Helen Hunts
Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc
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Posted - 2007.09.28 04:11:00 -
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Pirates attack with the idea of taking posession of shiny things which don't belong to them yet. Griefers attack repeatedly just to deny others the ability to enjoy any/all activity. Sadly, I do know quite a bit about griefers in multiple MMOs, but I do enjoy shutting them down whenever I can. (Is that griefing a griefer?)
There may be a fine line between some pirates and griefers, but there IS a line. I'd rather have to deal with a dozen real pirates than a single griefer. (Easy pirate escape method: Throw bundle of ISK one way, run like heck the other way while they are distracted by all the zeros) _______________________________
Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money.
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Curzon Dax
Black Scorpions
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Posted - 2007.09.28 04:12:00 -
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You guys might not realize it, but pretty much everything in Eve has a role. =p
I like a fight as much as the next person; but sometimes, there are other priorities. For example - the woman and I watched a movie earlier tonight. Perfect opportunity to break out the Hulk and do some mining. You don't have to direct much attention to it and can focus on the movie.
Stuff like that. :)
"In search of hair-raising fights" leaves a lot to be desired. Most of today's Eve pirates seem to be the gatecamping kind. That's not in search of much of anything at all.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.09.28 04:20:00 -
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I have yet to get a nasty hate mail from a pirate, so far i have only gotten them from isk farmers, war targets and anti-pies. -------------
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Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.28 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax "In search of hair-raising fights" leaves a lot to be desired. Most of today's Eve pirates seem to be the gatecamping kind. That's not in search of much of anything at all.
People gatecamp because it is effective and profitable. Profitable = piracy. Roaming gangs are a lot more fun but even a roaming gang ends up engaging people at gates. You have to shoot them somewhere. 
There is a place for playing space rock simulator but I tend to prefer more active roles while logged into eve.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |

Leora Nomen
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:15:00 -
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Edited by: Leora Nomen on 28/09/2007 06:15:27
Originally by: Ilvan I love the psychobabble explanations for 'acting mean' in online games.
No, the guy who blew up your hauler isn't a depraved antisocial freak, he's just a regular guy having fun at your expense. It's a game, nothing you do here will ever really matter, so get over yourself.
You see the question is why would some people want to have fun at expense of others and other players don't require it to have fun playing a game.
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Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:39:00 -
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Why do you say pirates in the title and griefers in the post? both are diffrent.
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Justas Fenakertiban
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
While searching for techniques to grief in Hello Kitty Online I found the following link.
Ahhahaha! Hello Kitty griefing FTW!
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ollobrains
Mission Invasion Squad
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:46:00 -
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pirates = griefers the term is used in the same mould by so called pvers Group mission invasions |

Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.09.28 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains pirates = griefers the term is used in the same mould by so called pvers
No.
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.09.28 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Leora Nomen Edited by: Leora Nomen on 28/09/2007 06:15:27
Originally by: Ilvan I love the psychobabble explanations for 'acting mean' in online games.
No, the guy who blew up your hauler isn't a depraved antisocial freak, he's just a regular guy having fun at your expense. It's a game, nothing you do here will ever really matter, so get over yourself.
You see the question is why would some people want to have fun at expense of others and other players don't require it to have fun playing a game.
Oh, come on. On a certain level everyone in EVE is profiting off of someone else.
Well, except hardcore mission runners, but they're not real people anyways. 
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