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Sconitta United Warriors Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.30 00:26:00 - [1] im just wondering whos the big allince are there dreads how many play it is there an ebil bob allince there -------- Whos that BoB guy evryone talks about?
Canine Fiend Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.30 00:34:00 - [2] Edited by: Canine Fiend on 30/09/2007 00:34:34 I remember we had a few fellows from the EVE:China server come and talk to us a few months ago, they said dreads were in production but nobody had the skills to fly them yet, and there were a few major alliances... here's their alliance map, it looks like the big purple blob is similar to BoB in terms of empire control... http://speed.gfans.com/attachments/month_0609/EVE_2006_9_vxV5jye1aWUg.jpg -------------------
Fivetide Amarr Crimson Strike The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.30 00:43:00 - [3] its now called CeV coz like always the chineese took it made their own and sold it cheaper coz they like to make money out of other peoples hard work. They also ave the highest amount of macro miners. If id of owned CCP i would have let 1 mil of them sign up then took a months money and shut the server down..coz they suck Quote of the Month your standing infront of 500 people and your the only one faceing the wrong way jimmy carr
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.30 00:49:00 - [4] Originally by: Fivetide its now called CeV coz like always the chineese took it made their own and sold it cheaper coz they like to make money out of other peoples hard work. They also ave the highest amount of macro miners. If id of owned CCP i would have let 1 mil of them sign up then took a months money and shut the server down..coz they suck As a child you may have been told if you have nothing nice to say then keep quiet, the same goes for making sense. --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.30 00:49:00 - [5] Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Fivetide its now called CeV coz like always the chineese took it made their own and sold it cheaper coz they like to make money out of other peoples hard work. They also ave the highest amount of macro miners. If id of owned CCP i would have let 1 mil of them sign up then took a months money and shut the server down..coz they suck As a child you may have been told if you have nothing nice to say then keep quiet, the same goes for making sense. chock full of vitamin win 1987.08.31 00:29:09 Combat Your Smooth Criminal perfectly strikes Annie, wrecking for A Crescendo.
Fivetide Amarr Crimson Strike The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:01:00 - [6] Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Fivetide its now called CeV coz like always the chineese took it made their own and sold it cheaper coz they like to make money out of other peoples hard work. They also ave the highest amount of macro miners. If id of owned CCP i would have let 1 mil of them sign up then took a months money and shut the server down..coz they suck As a child you may have been told if you have nothing nice to say then keep quiet, the same goes for making sense. says the person with the incomprehensible name, at least my mother let me go to school, maybe yours should have thought of doing that instead of teaching u archaic parables ?? Quote of the Month your standing infront of 500 people and your the only one faceing the wrong way jimmy carr
Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:03:00 - [7] Originally by: Fivetide its now called CeV coz like always the chineese took it made their own and sold it cheaper coz they like to make money out of other peoples hard work. They also ave the highest amount of macro miners. If id of owned CCP i would have let 1 mil of them sign up then took a months money and shut the server down..coz they suck wait...what the hell are you even talking about? --------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X Hey I have an idea: "Let's not endure any more of your spam for the weekend!" Enjoy your time away from our forums.
Frug Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:07:00 - [8] Why does someone have to post this question once a week? - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:10:00 - [9] China has about 20% of the world's population. India about 17%, with the USA a distant third with less than 5%. USA would be fourth if you include the E.U. as a single entity, which would account for slightly above 7% of the world's population. Basically, all of the "western worlds" (USA, Canada, all of Europe and not just the EU, several former Soviet Union countries near Europe too), all of them put together, and it still would not even reach the same population numbers as China. Still, concurrent users for Tranquility are usually above 30k every day (with roughly 200k subscribers), while Serenity barely reaches 3k (and I have no idea what the subscriber numbers there are, and I do not want to make a wild guess as to how active/inactive subscribers there are compared to those on TQ). Draw your own conclusions. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:17:00 - [10] As with Tranquility, it is starting slow, but we're gaining. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:18:00 - [11] Our logs, they show otherwise. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:24:00 - [12] Well, I'm just telling you what I've heard. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Akita T Our logs, they show otherwise. Actually the September numbers are up. And for fun: "Our logs show nothing wrong." --------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X Hey I have an idea: "Let's not endure any more of your spam for the weekend!" Enjoy your time away from our forums.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:31:00 - [14] Edited by: Akita T on 30/09/2007 01:32:44 Well, not to be a nuissance, I "get" where you're standing, PR and all, so you're not in the position to say anything else But you'd have to be blind and not see EVE China has most likely turned into an abject failure. The only possible "salvation" would be to completely "compromise" what EVE (Tranquility) stands for on Serenity, and start allowing ISK sales for real money, or even introduce a grind element to skilling up, maybe even have insurance cover modules and full ship cost, or what ever "grinder-friendly" changes that could be made that would kill EVE-"normal" but heavily boost EVE-China. Chinese people just don't "dig" the way EVE (this, EVE, the one and only true EVE) works. It's too "western-minded". _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Akita T Well, not to be a nuissance, I "get" where you're standing, PR and all, so you're not in the position to say anything else But you'd have to be blind and not see EVE China has most likely turned into an abject failure. The only possible "salvation" would be to completely "compromise" what EVE (Tranquility) stands for on Serenity, and start allowing ISK sales for real money, or even introduce a grind element to skilling up. Chinese people just don't "dig" the way EVE works. It's too "western-minded". Oh, no one is saying it's a walk in the park, but we are committed to making it work. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Akita T Well, not to be a nuissance, I "get" where you're standing, PR and all, so you're not in the position to say anything else But you'd have to be blind and not see EVE China has most likely turned into an abject failure. The only possible "salvation" would be to completely "compromise" what EVE (Tranquility) stands for on Serenity, and start allowing ISK sales for real money, or even introduce a grind element to skilling up. Chinese people just don't "dig" the way EVE works. It's too "western-minded". Really. The only acceptable solution is to allow isk buying and selling? Just because EVE China doesn't have a lot of players, it's not a failure unless they're losing money. Considering 1/10th the players = 1/10th the required hardware, what would they be losing all this money on? --------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X Hey I have an idea: "Let's not endure any more of your spam for the weekend!" Enjoy your time away from our forums.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:37:00 - [17] Recipie for success of EVE-China: * ISK insurance for ship loss removed ; instead, you get an identical ship minus modules dropped in wreck in the "insurance station" * clone insurance covers implants too ; new clone keeps all implants if clone is up-to-date (possible extra cost) * system-generated ISK purchaseable for real Chinese money in limitless quantities * POS captured instead of destroyed * performing an action increases SP gain in appropriate skill(s) This would KILL EVE here, but would make it boom in China. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:43:00 - [18] but they can always grind for isk :D the grind is forever!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:46:00 - [19] Originally by: Thanos Draicon Just because EVE China doesn't have a lot of players, it's not a failure unless they're losing money. Considering 1/10th the players = 1/10th the required hardware, what would they be losing all this money on? Hmm, let' see... I doubt the hardware there is all that "sub-par" compared to TQ, because they were expecting massive loads... like I said, 200k signups in the first day ? Huge PCU numbers the first month ? Stuff like that. Sure, running costs might be lower now, so it's not a FINANCIAL failure... yet, anyway, I hope. Not that it would matter much anyway, since from what I gather, financially speaking, the EVE China server is funded and operated by a Chinese company, not by CCP itself... or am I wrong ? I merely meant "failure" as in "not anywhere near as profitable as it could be if changed". _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.09.30 02:03:00 - [20] i thought it was more of a not enough dragons thing
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 02:53:00 - [21] With 200k signing up on launch day to "check it out", you can bet your ass it wasn't "lack of dragons"... those wouldn't even have signed-up in the first place. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Anhtarus Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.30 04:02:00 - [22] Here is a thought, What if.... a 'wormhole' suddenly opened up between Tranquility and Serenity? Woah.... Can we say MASSIVE war??? Too bad it would be such an unbalanced missmatch considering Tranquility servers have players who can fly dreads and the super caps, whilst Serenity players don;t have the skills to fly dreads. What CCP could have done is created Serenity as a completely different 'race' of players with different ship classes, weapons and looks. heck, the chinese players already read in chinese characters already so their GUI would appear 'alien' to most Tranq players anyway. Serenity would appear 'alien' to Tranq players who can't read chinese, and the Chinese players would have the same problem. coming to 'our' world. That would have been quite interesting don't ya agree?
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 05:03:00 - [23] Wrangler, does it always put the little info at the bottom, or are your required to sign all your posts in that manner?
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.09.30 05:21:00 - [24] Edited by: voogru on 30/09/2007 05:23:06 Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Akita T Well, not to be a nuissance, I "get" where you're standing, PR and all, so you're not in the position to say anything else But you'd have to be blind and not see EVE China has most likely turned into an abject failure. The only possible "salvation" would be to completely "compromise" what EVE (Tranquility) stands for on Serenity, and start allowing ISK sales for real money, or even introduce a grind element to skilling up. Chinese people just don't "dig" the way EVE works. It's too "western-minded". Oh, no one is saying it's a walk in the park, but we are committed to making it work. This is the Chinese server in a nutshell: http://www.oleswanson.com/images/office/mistakes.jpg It's a warning of what will happen to TQ if the farmers really get a good grasp on the game, and CCP doesn't properly handle them, also, The Chinese server is doomed to fail if Chinese can just make accounts on TQ. Why play on the Chinese server when you can play on Tranquility and be able to sell your stuff for much more than you could sell it for on the Chinese server? I'm dangerous! Watch out!
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.30 05:39:00 - [25] Edited by: Amarria Black on 30/09/2007 05:39:42 Originally by: voogru This is the Chinese server in a nutshell: http://www.oleswanson.com/images/office/mistakes.jpg It's a warning of what will happen to TQ if the farmers really get a good grasp on the game, and CCP doesn't properly handle them, also, The Chinese server is doomed to fail if Chinese can just make accounts on TQ. Why play on the Chinese server when you can play on Tranquility and be able to sell your stuff for much more than you could sell it for on the Chinese server? That's pretty darn scathing, but spot-on. I've played enough "Korean Grind" MMOs in my day to know what works in Asia: Numbers. Numbers that go up. Never down. And at regular, incredibly short intervals over a very, very long time. With no such thing as a maximum number. Oh, and e-bling.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 05:45:00 - [26] Originally by: Ungdall Wrangler, does it always put the little info at the bottom, or are your required to sign all your posts in that manner? It's called a signature. You have pictures of half-naked men in it, he has relevant info (and a much larger "allowance" for characters in it). _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.30 05:47:00 - [27] I still prefer the half naked men 1987.08.31 00:29:09 Combat Your Smooth Criminal perfectly strikes Annie, wrecking for A Crescendo.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 05:49:00 - [28] Originally by: Tortun Nahme I still prefer the half naked men As opposed to fully-dressed men, or completely naked ? _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.30 05:49:00 - [29] as opposed to useful information 1987.08.31 00:29:09 Combat Your Smooth Criminal perfectly strikes Annie, wrecking for A Crescendo.
Leora Nomen	Posted - 2007.09.30 06:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Amarria Black That's pretty darn scathing, but spot-on. I've played enough "Korean Grind" MMOs in my day to know what works in Asia: Numbers. Numbers that go up. Never down. And at regular, incredibly short intervals over a very, very long time. With no such thing as a maximum number. Oh, and e-bling. Slowly and regularly rising numbers? You mean they like to grind? Mining and mission running fit the bill then. Just gotta make asteroids looks less like common dirt and more like shiny expensive stuff - same goes for all the loot (frequency crystals imho are not shiny enough). guide to game time codes

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