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Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.10.01 18:47:00 - [31] Feel free to join my corp, it has a 25% corp tax. Call to arms!!!
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.01 18:55:00 - [32] Originally by: Patch86 You know "Tax" was invented before EVE. Just an FYI. I don't believe it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution	Posted - 2007.10.01 18:59:00 - [33] When you apply to a corp, the tax rate is shown during the application process, so you know when applying. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Tenacious Kitty	Posted - 2007.10.01 19:00:00 - [34]
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.01 19:11:00 - [35] Originally by: Tenacious Kitty --- planetary interaction idea!
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.10.01 19:19:00 - [36] ... another point ... if you're really new you'll be killing frigs in high sec and you don't pay any tax on anything below 35k I seem to recall.
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.10.01 19:23:00 - [37] That william shatenar spaceshop captin was funny the first time. --------------------------------- Dyslexics of the World Untie! ---------------------------------
Danae Melios	Posted - 2007.10.01 19:39:00 - [38] Um, Eve is largely an economic sim. "Tax" is a basic part of the economic lexicon. If someone doesn't understand "tax" until, oh, 9 months (like you mentioned) then I question whether they should be in the game, period. Sorry for sounding elitist, but not really. I'd be tempted to declare the OP a troll, but unfortunately I know that there are people who don't question anything for the first year or so. By the way, the tax SHOULD be providing some benefit to the members-- whether corp supplied basic stuff like ships and ammo, or offices or blueprints, or be saving up for some corporate project. If it is just disappearing with nary a word, leave your current corp. If you are using multiple offices and always finding ammo lying around in the corp hangers for you to take and the corp offers you a free ship to sign up, then that is what the corp tax is going toward. Frankly, I would think that the corporate tax would apply to market sales as well, but CCP decided against that way back when. It is pretty much just a mechanism for ratters and mission runners to give up a small amount of their income automatically to the corp while they play solo. It gets people putting into the pot when they wouldn't otherwise due to style of preferred gameplay. Nothing wrong with that.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.01 19:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Max Tesla Edited by: Max Tesla on 01/10/2007 17:51:01 The biggest scam in eve that CCP totally ignores The biggest scam is corp taxes! How is this a scam? Lots of new people join eve everyday and some of them have no clue about anything and then some dude says; hey want to join my corp, and people usually say, why not Now since they are new they have no clue what 10% tax is or 15% tax is, yes they could find out and people could eat less and so many people wouldnÆt be so fat and people could read Chinese if they only studied 100 hours per week etc etc, they wont know that the CEO has stolen so much cash for them for atleast some months before they learn the mechanics of the game The problem with corp tax is that you donÆt really see it in journal it is always green. All npc bounties are all green you donÆt see the npc bounty and the a big fat red line with minus 10 %, no you directly see the calculated 90% So before people understand what is going on and that they have been giving away 10-25% for nothing or peanuts already months have passed and the CEO is laughing all the way to the bank because he was able to scam so many new people to join his corp And some people say well you get help in a human corp bla bla bla, you get more help in a npc corp because there are always more people there and there is always someone willing to help. So this is the biggest scam in eve the corp taxes that are not displayed as big fat red lines in the journal because if they were I bet many people would leave their corps especially lots of new people that donÆt know anything about the game. All I can say is that if you think running a corp with 10% tax rate is a way to get rich, then just try it. Good luck with that. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
dragonssbane Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.10.01 19:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Max Tesla Edited by: Max Tesla on 01/10/2007 17:51:01 The biggest scam in eve that CCP totally ignores The biggest scam is corp taxes! How is this a scam? Lots of new people join eve everyday and some of them have no clue about anything and then some dude says; hey want to join my corp, and people usually say, why not Now since they are new they have no clue what 10% tax is or 15% tax is, yes they could find out and people could eat less and so many people wouldnÆt be so fat and people could read Chinese if they only studied 100 hours per week etc etc, they wont know that the CEO has stolen so much cash for them for atleast some months before they learn the mechanics of the game The problem with corp tax is that you donÆt really see it in journal it is always green. All npc bounties are all green you donÆt see the npc bounty and the a big fat red line with minus 10 %, no you directly see the calculated 90% So before people understand what is going on and that they have been giving away 10-25% for nothing or peanuts already months have passed and the CEO is laughing all the way to the bank because he was able to scam so many new people to join his corp And some people say well you get help in a human corp bla bla bla, you get more help in a npc corp because there are always more people there and there is always someone willing to help. So this is the biggest scam in eve the corp taxes that are not displayed as big fat red lines in the journal because if they were I bet many people would leave their corps especially lots of new people that donÆt know anything about the game. All I can say is that if you think running a corp with 10% tax rate is a way to get rich, then just try it. Good luck with that. Yea good luck with not going in the hole with only 10%. You can not depend on your members kicking down every month. Maybe if you had 4 or 5 buddies in a corp it would work. But anything outside of that you are screwed. As far as a scam.."OP"...dude wake up. If a player can not figure out how to read something as simple as "x%" tax, and does not ask for clarification I would deny his app or boot him from my corp immediately.

Terazuk Amarr Rogen's Heroes Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.01 20:04:00 - [41] This is a joke right? One of those anti-whine, whine thread things? Still an epic fail™ Is Exploration Broken?
Zeknichov Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.01 20:13:00 - [42] What does the corp details say about its tax rate? IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!! WHAT NINE THOUSAND?!?!?!
Helen Hunts Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc	Posted - 2007.10.01 20:25:00 - [43] 10% tax...yeah we got that. That money pays for nice clean corp hangers to stow our big shiny toys in and a bit of reserve for when we need something and the individual wallets are a bit thin. Station Corp Hangers aren't always cheap. (10k in a station with few offices rented to 18-30 million in crowded stations) The money has to come from somewhere. A small, hardly noticed tax also helps eliminate or reduce the hard drive for funds when a corp pursues a big goal like POS/Outpost or Capital Ship building. Taxes are only a scam if the corp officers decide to take the money and run or use it just for themselves. A good corp uses the money for the good of all members. Learn the difference or be fleeced. _______________________________ Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money. Any Questions?
Rilder Caldari THC LTD Dogs of War.	Posted - 2007.10.01 20:32:00 - [44] Edited by: Rilder on 01/10/2007 20:34:35 Corp tax is nothing, on a 500k rat its only 50k, not even noticable, seriously, 50k is pocket change, you can't even buy t1 named for that much, yes it adds up, but so does the isk you get from bounties. --
Luigi Thirty Caldari 19th Star Logistics	Posted - 2007.10.01 20:40:00 - [45] If anyone noticed, it SAYS WHAT THE TAX IS WHEN YOU JOIN A CORP. ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:((((
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:11:00 - [46] Quote: Lots of new people join eve everyday and some of them have no clue about anything and then some dude says; hey want to join my corp, and people usually say, why not Nope. I said to my myself "I am a clueless nubbin. What value have I demonstrated in the world of EVE? Gosh. None. What do I bring to the table then? Very little. Unless I hear good things about these guys they probably want me for grunt work and as appealing as that isn't I could just stay in this NPC corp, pay no taxes and get my questions answered."
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:13:00 - [47] Originally by: Bistot Kid That william shatenar spaceshop captin was funny the first time. You realize this is not William Shatner at all, right? Oh, and to the OP: train intelligence :-)
Snake Doctor Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:14:00 - [48] Edited by: Snake Doctor on 01/10/2007 21:14:15 It's too bad I can't tax you 140% for being stupid. Edit: Just kidding. But not. You know what I mean. Rifter Flight Manual!
Thernys Caldari Dark Force Recon	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:23:00 - [49] Originally by: Shin Schei But the guy said it meant "Lion-hearted". The one that really hurt was my girlfriend's, though. He said it meant "Fidelity", but it turned out to mean "Will do anything to anybody for $2.50." Great how those symbols can say so much with so few squiggly little lines, isn't it. -- ¬Me, ¬now. Quote me and you're sued!
Frug Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:38:00 - [50] Darwinism. People fail to read the info on the corp they join and fail to compare it to other corps, they don't deserve to keep their isk. This is eve not hello kitty. If they put corp taxes in big red lines in the journal, guess what? People wouldn't notice it for months either. The tax rate is right there in the corp info. It's not hidden, it's clearly right there. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles

Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:42:00 - [51] Originally by: Stefx Originally by: Bistot Kid That william shatenar spaceshop captin was funny the first time. You realize this is not William Shatner at all, right? Oh, and to the OP: train intelligence :-) Of course, I was joaking, it is teh mister Spock. --------------------------------- Dyslexics of the World Untie! ---------------------------------
Snake Doctor Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:48:00 - [52] Originally by: Michael Douglas The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed -- for lack of a better word -- is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms -- greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed -- you mark my words -- will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much. Rifter Flight Manual!
Tarazed Aquilae	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:49:00 - [53] Dear Max Tesla: Most of the people here are adults living in Western nations. As such we are well aware of what taxes are. Furthermore, a 10%, 20%, or even 30% tax rate seems very low to us. ThatÆs because we are paying somewhere between 50% to 90% of our income, in real life taxes, to our Governments. And most governments wonÆt even help you buy a new space battleship. IÆm telling you this because it appears that you are either too young to have ever paid taxes or have gone through life blissfully unaware of what real life is like.
Sex Slave	Posted - 2007.10.01 22:08:00 - [54] Hey Max, If you are a US citizen, I've got some bad news for you regarding Income Tax. Google: Federal Reserve and Fractional Lending
Mori Kenshin Caldari Middleton and Mercer LLP	Posted - 2007.10.01 22:16:00 - [55] I'm a noob and recently joing a corp. with a 10% tax. I almost opted not to when I saw that. Mainly because I had no idea if that was usual or fair. I also didn't know what income it applied to (still don't for sure). But I went ahead figuring I wasn't going to be losing a lot during the first month anyhow. What I don't like is that I can't tell when I am paying into the corp. It should definitely show in the transactions as a nice red CORP TAX (10%) line for each transaction. And there should be an explanation of what the tax applies to.
Snake Doctor Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.01 22:28:00 - [56] Originally by: Mori Kenshin What I don't like is that I can't tell when I am paying into the corp. It should definitely show in the transactions as a nice red CORP TAX (10%) line for each transaction. And there should be an explanation of what the tax applies to. In theory, you're paying for upkeep of the corporation. If you have a corrupt (read: Stupid) CEO, he is most likely Enroning you. Corporations in EVE take a substantial amount of upkeep to function properly. Once you start managing a corporation/alliance, you will find that's really all you're able to do once in the game. Rifter Flight Manual!
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.10.01 22:31:00 - [57] And here I thought the EIB was the largest scam in EVE ever... -------- Taxes apply to mission rewards and rat bounties. I'm pretty certain that they do not apply to buying and selling items on the market or contracts. Corp taxes do not apply to refining minerals (you do however have to fork over a certain % of the minerals you refine to the station you refine at, unless you have 1337 standings with them like I do)
Mori Kenshin Caldari Middleton and Mercer LLP	Posted - 2007.10.01 22:36:00 - [58] Edited by: Mori Kenshin on 01/10/2007 22:36:55 Originally by: Taedrin And here I thought the EIB was the largest scam in EVE ever... -------- Taxes apply to mission rewards and rat bounties. I'm pretty certain that they do not apply to buying and selling items on the market or contracts. Corp taxes do not apply to refining minerals (you do however have to fork over a certain % of the minerals you refine to the station you refine at, unless you have 1337 standings with them like I do) Well I'm running alot of missions but the real money I'm making is from selling items on the market. So I'll write it off as a corporate donation.
Jita Shopin	Posted - 2007.10.02 00:39:00 - [59] im kinda shocked noone mentioned that the tax is only taken from bounties OVER 35k By the time you have got up to steadily killing 35k rats you would have noticed Corp Tax and asked about it. Originally by: Akita T I stand corrected
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.02 00:41:00 - [60] Originally by: Jita Shopin im kinda shocked noone mentioned that the tax is only taken from bounties OVER 35k By the time you have got up to steadily killing 35k rats you would have noticed Corp Tax and asked about it. I'm kind of shocked you missed the 30 some posts saying that 1987.08.31 00:29:09 Combat Your Smooth Criminal perfectly strikes Annie, wrecking for A Crescendo.



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