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Rustfizzle	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:21:00 - [1] Hello. I have been debating with friends if there are hi-sec systems, low-sec systems, and 0.0, or if it is OK to split the systems just to hi-sec and low-sec. So please, answer me this yes/no question: Do you think that 0.0 should have it's own cattegory, instead of merging it with 0.1-0.4 into "Lowsec" systems ? Thank you for your votes :)
Free Politics	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:22:00 - [2] Unique
Katabrok First Caldari Asguard Security Service Angels Of Discord	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:23:00 - [3] High sec, low sec and null sec. Kata Uma vez flamengo, sempre flamengo.
Asestorian Minmatar Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:24:00 - [4] There are too many differences between 0.0 space and 0.1 - 0.4 space to lump them together. --- ---
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:26:00 - [5] High-sec : carebear land and suicide ganker paradise Low-sec : pewrate and gankbear land Null-sec : nothing, nothing, BAMF bubblecamp, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, CAPBLOB, nothing, nothing, SOV4 _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:28:00 - [6] If anything, it's divided into deepspace (o.o) and empire (hisec and losec), but mostly ppl use the three places approach: hisec, losec and deepspace -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
aiiaiiaii	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:33:00 - [7] There's 0.0 and that charming theme park where ships are built.
Melor Rend	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:34:00 - [8] Well the distinction between high sec, low sec and 0.0 is very important. And it already has "its own category" imo. At least if you actually ever leave high sec. Here a quick list for you: High-sec = pretty "safe" besides wardecs and gankers Low-sec = still pretty safe if you know what you are doing. No bubbles here so for 0.0 dwellers this usually already feels safe. 0.0 = lawless ranging from safer then empire (because you recognize hostiles much easier then in front of Jita 4-4 CNA) to pretty deadly due to bubbles and NBSI.
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:35:00 - [9] 0.0 is seperate from lowsec. Different combat mechanics. You have concord and sec status loss in highsec (also no bubbles). You have sentry agression and sec status loss in low sec (also no bubbles). You have free for all pvp and bubbles in 0.0 (no sec status loss).
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:35:00 - [10] There are distinct sets of rules for hi, low, and zero sec space: hi-sec: owned by NPC empire, cant attack unprovoked or get pwned by CONCORD. no bubbles or cap ships. low-sec: owned by NPC empire, can attack uprovoked but still get seclevel penalty. no bubbles or cap ships. zero-sec: everything is allowed, also possible for alliances to acquire system sovereignty. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.

Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:41:00 - [11] 0.0 is completely different and seperate from low-sec. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
zilllii Squirrel Power	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 02/10/2007 18:27:10 High-sec : carebear land and suicide ganker paradise Low-sec : pewrate and gankbear land Null-sec : nothing, nothing, BAMF bubblecamp, nothing, nothing, OMGWTFBBQESTAMEL, nothing, nothing, CAPBLOB, nothing, nothing, SOV4 shouldnt that be.. nullsec= bubblecamp, nothing, nothing, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, nothing, nothing, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old and on and on -------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Love the new need for speed initiative. Pilots involved in a fleet battle can post on the forum and get a reply about wha
M3GATRON Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:52:00 - [13] Originally by: zilllii Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 02/10/2007 18:27:10 High-sec : carebear land and suicide ganker paradise Low-sec : pewrate and gankbear land Null-sec : nothing, nothing, BAMF bubblecamp, nothing, nothing, OMGWTFBBQESTAMEL, nothing, nothing, CAPBLOB, nothing, nothing, SOV4 shouldnt that be.. nullsec= bubblecamp, nothing, nothing, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, nothing, nothing, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old and on and on so true , as much as i personnally hate the idea of a cloak buster i do want one just so i can kill these fools . i would rather like to see al bs's not be able to cloak and rat aggro count as a regular aggro timer . just so we can clean these guys out of the game .
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.02 18:53:00 - [14] Nah, they cloak and logoff, so it turns to "nothing" _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Dirk Magnum Red Light Enterprises Eastern Star Federation	Posted - 2007.10.02 19:25:00 - [15] Empire: 0.1 to 1.0 (what's with the decimal points anyway, why not just 1 to 10?) High Sec: 0.5 to 1.0 Low Sec: 0.1 to 0.4 Zero: 0.0 That's what I've always called those things. I guess a lot of people consider "Empire" and "High Sec" to be the same thing although I prefer to think of all positive sec systems as Empire, simply because there are both high and low sec systems where the listed sovereignty is one of the four main factions.
Haerana The Republican Guard The Sundering	Posted - 2007.10.02 19:25:00 - [16] Edited by: Haerana on 02/10/2007 19:26:37 Originally by: M3GATRON Originally by: zilllii Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 02/10/2007 18:27:10 High-sec : carebear land and suicide ganker paradise Low-sec : pewrate and gankbear land Null-sec : nothing, nothing, BAMF bubblecamp, nothing, nothing, OMGWTFBBQESTAMEL, nothing, nothing, CAPBLOB, nothing, nothing, SOV4 shouldnt that be.. nullsec= bubblecamp, nothing, nothing, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, nothing, nothing, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old, cloak raven 19days old and on and on so true , as much as i personnally hate the idea of a cloak buster i do want one just so i can kill these fools . i would rather like to see al bs's not be able to cloak and rat aggro count as a regular aggro timer . just so we can clean these guys out of the game . A fantastic a alliance mate did the other day.... invite them to a gang. he did it to 1 yesterday who accepted. he then warped his crow in on him uncloaking him so guy logged while scrammed and he popped the guy. funny eh Oh and yes. There is Empire. High-sec and Low-sec. then theres 0.0 3 different areas. if i grouped any together it would be high-sec and low-sec. all of its Npc Sov etc, most of 0.0 is player owned.
Barbaro55a Caldari Os Lobos	Posted - 2007.10.02 19:34:00 - [17] Originally by: aiiaiiaii There's 0.0 and that charming theme park where ships are built. /me grins .......................................... We come in peace - My sig and your sig would make cute baby sigs.
Vandalias	Posted - 2007.10.02 19:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Alora Venoda There are distinct sets of rules for hi, low, and zero sec space: hi-sec: owned by NPC empire, cant attack unprovoked or get pwned by CONCORD. no bubbles or cap ships. low-sec: owned by NPC empire, can attack uprovoked but still get seclevel penalty. no bubbles. zero-sec: everything is allowed, also possible for alliances to acquire system sovereignty. FTFY
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.10.02 19:58:00 - [19] Empire, borders and g0.0gle space My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Tito Taneki German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.02 20:05:00 - [20] Edited by: Tito Taneki on 02/10/2007 20:09:18 Originally by: Alora Venoda zero-sec: everything is allowed, also possible for alliances to acquire system sovereignty. The latter not in 0.0 with npc sovereignty. So I devide EVE in empire space and 0.0, with empire further divided in high sec and low sec. And 0.0 with the subcategories 'conquerable space' and 'npc sovereignty'

Starfired	Posted - 2007.10.02 20:07:00 - [21] To people who know what they're doing low-sec has more in common with high-sec then 0.0. Unique.
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.02 20:19:00 - [22] Edited by: hydraSlav on 02/10/2007 20:20:19 0.0 is nothing like low-sec (0.1-0.4). It is absolutely different. I usually unify low-sec and high-sec under a generic "empire" term (all low-sec belongs to one of the empire factions), but i am yet to meet anyone that would include 0.0 in "low-sec" definition. It's either: 0.0 and Empire or 0.0, low-sec and high-sec == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.02 20:23:00 - [23] Originally by: Rustfizzle Hello. I have been debating with friends if there are hi-sec systems, low-sec systems, and 0.0, or if it is OK to split the systems just to hi-sec and low-sec. So please, answer me this yes/no question: Do you think that 0.0 should have it's own cattegory, instead of merging it with 0.1-0.4 into "Lowsec" systems ? Thank you for your votes :) I think it smells -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Zacharie Le'Fromage	Posted - 2007.10.02 20:26:00 - [24] High sec, lowsec, and 0.0 here. There's just too big a difference between 0.0 and lowsec to lump it together.
nightslasher	Posted - 2007.10.02 20:53:00 - [25] Edited by: nightslasher on 02/10/2007 20:54:05 Originally by: Asestorian There are too many differences between 0.0 space and 0.1 - 0.4 space to lump them together. /agree Low sec is much more dangerous than 0.0 Are you bored? Or is there a practical reason why you asked the question?
Kannuk	Posted - 2007.10.02 23:04:00 - [26] 0.0 means its got no security and isnt under empire control, so saying (word)+sec anything about 0.0 is a contradiction itself.
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech	Posted - 2007.10.02 23:14:00 - [27] Originally by: nightslasher Edited by: nightslasher on 02/10/2007 20:54:05 Originally by: Asestorian There are too many differences between 0.0 space and 0.1 - 0.4 space to lump them together. /agree Low sec is much more dangerous than 0.0 Are you bored? Or is there a practical reason why you asked the question? parts of zero sec are safer... bubble camps and can be much worse. and when an alliance patrol wants you out of their territory, they can be more persistent and organized than the average lowsec pirate. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Calshim eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.10.02 23:24:00 - [28] Edited by: Calshim on 02/10/2007 23:24:20 High sec = Mostly safe unless you are a freighter pilot Low sec = pretty much deadly. No Sec (0.0) = Mostly safe if you keep your wits about you with the occasional deadly zone or 3 ------------------------------------------ My life is statistical and I am part of it.
Sarah McTeef	Posted - 2007.10.02 23:39:00 - [29] Originally by: Calshim No Sec (0.0) = Mostly safe if you keep your wits about you with the occasional deadly zone or 3 So true, but when you're newer it can be 'Mostly safe, except when you panic and do the wrong thing and promptly and efficiently explode.'
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.10.03 00:29:00 - [30] Originally by: Calshim Edited by: Calshim on 02/10/2007 23:24:20 Low sec = pretty much deadly. Hell no. Unless some dumbass is camping a gate with a Nyx (which only happens at like 2-3 gates in all of Eve) low-sec is almost as safe as high-sec.



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