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Hobo Roughsleeper	Posted - 2007.10.03 17:51:00 - [1] Edited by: Hobo Roughsleeper on 03/10/2007 17:56:40 Edited by: Hobo Roughsleeper on 03/10/2007 17:52:04 topic says it all. Wish both sides gl. edit 640.. edit 660.
Gabrielle Ariela	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:00:00 - [2] You know it takes a DT to allocate a node to a system as far as i know :)
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:00:00 - [3] You do realize that the only time CCP can "put hardware" on any system is during downtime, and it requires that they rewrite part of their code to do so? They only do this for Jita. ------------ Whiners - Unite! \| Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist.
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:02:00 - [4] It's a sign I don't know what it's like in BoB and, frankly, the more I work with them directly the less I am starting to care. -Seleene, [BDCI] <MC>
Hobo Roughsleeper	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:02:00 - [5] I guess the fight won't be over for a few weeks, they got plenty of time, but just imagine the laggfest if eveyone in Jita was shoosting eachother.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Tarminic You do realize that the only time CCP can "put hardware" on any system is during downtime, and it requires that they rewrite part of their code to do so? They only do this for Jita. No it does not. In several situations that was done. For example on the LV babt titan kill. The node crashed a few times. Then DB administrators placed the NOS in a syngle dedicated node. That took only a few monents after the node crashed. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Charlie Crocodile Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:23:00 - [7] So this explains why I can't logon :( Signature inappropriate for Teen rated forum. Mail us at [email protected] if you require further information - Valorem
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Tarminic You do realize that the only time CCP can "put hardware" on any system is during downtime, and it requires that they rewrite part of their code to do so? They only do this for Jita. No it does not. In several situations that was done. For example on the LV babt titan kill. The node crashed a few times. Then DB administrators placed the NOS in a syngle dedicated node. That took only a few monents after the node crashed. That still involves taking a node offline and starting it again, which involves some downtime, even if the rest of the cluster is unaffected. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Tarminic You do realize that the only time CCP can "put hardware" on any system is during downtime, and it requires that they rewrite part of their code to do so? They only do this for Jita. No it does not. In several situations that was done. For example on the LV babt titan kill. The node crashed a few times. Then DB administrators placed the NOS in a syngle dedicated node. That took only a few monents after the node crashed. In that case I stand corrected. I do believe, however, that it requires bringing the node offline and re-arranging some code. It may happen if the node crashes, but certainly not before. ------------ Whiners - Unite! \| Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist.
Mad Ilya Soldiers Of Darkness Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:34:00 - [10] So that's why I can't login in FAT ;( What's going on there apart from the lagfest? P.S. fix it so I can log in!
Tisha Ylvanna	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:37:00 - [11] You guys should read dev blogs and forms before whining. I know everything sucks with more then about 200 in local. But the problem is known and will be fixed. First start is an annonced new netcode for rev3 (coming november) and another problem. 1 CPU can't handle such fleets. System can't spread load over multiple CPU's. Will be fixed in 2008. That sucks but for now sadly we have to live with it since getting new hardware and making new server code takes time that's why we got the soon(tm) :D
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:41:00 - [12] How can we whine if there is no lag. I don't know what it's like in BoB and, frankly, the more I work with them directly the less I am starting to care. -Seleene, [BDCI] <MC>
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Tisha Ylvanna Edited by: Tisha Ylvanna on 03/10/2007 18:38:13 You guys should read dev blogs and forms before whining. I know everything sucks with more then about 200 in local. But the problem is known and will be fixed. First start is an annonced new netcode for rev3 (coming november) and another problem. 1 CPU can't handle such fleets. System can't spread load over multiple CPU's. Will be fixed in 2008. That sucks but for now sadly we have to live with it since getting new hardware and making new server code takes time that's why we got the soon(tm) So stop whining about known problems that will be fixed in the future. It makes me sick to read all these whines 20 times a day :D You, you there! You're using logic in a lag whine thread, aren't you? GET OUT! ------------ Whiners - Unite! \| Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist.
Murukan Minmatar Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:48:00 - [14] I'm in stain and not FAT and i can't even log in :( Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Skarvl Mandoo principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.03 19:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Tisha Ylvanna Edited by: Tisha Ylvanna on 03/10/2007 18:38:13 You guys should read dev blogs and forms before whining. I know everything sucks with more then about 200 in local. But the problem is known and will be fixed. First start is an annonced new netcode for rev3 (coming november) and another problem. 1 CPU can't handle such fleets. System can't spread load over multiple CPU's. Will be fixed in 2008. That sucks but for now sadly we have to live with it since getting new hardware and making new server code takes time that's why we got the soon(tm) So stop whining about known problems that will be fixed in the future. It makes me sick to read all these whines 20 times a day :D The squeaky wheel gets the grease. The more we cry about it, the more pressure is put upon the devs to fix it. Keep the whining up, lads!!
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.03 19:15:00 - [16] Originally by: Skarvl Mandoo Originally by: Tisha Ylvanna So stop whining about known problems that will be fixed in the future. It makes me sick to read all these whines 20 times a day :D The squeaky wheel gets the grease. The more we cry about it, the more pressure is put upon the devs to fix it. Keep the whining up, lads!! Except when all of their available manpower is already on it. A squeaky wheel gets the grease, but no matter how much is squeaks it won't make oil sprout from the ground. ------------ Whiners - Unite! \| Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist.
Sophie Rebecca British Aerospace Inc	Posted - 2007.10.03 19:17:00 - [17] And Goons there in noob ships I wonder what they are trying to do! Tis a joke
Skarvl Mandoo principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.03 19:22:00 - [18] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Skarvl Mandoo Originally by: Tisha Ylvanna So stop whining about known problems that will be fixed in the future. It makes me sick to read all these whines 20 times a day :D The squeaky wheel gets the grease. The more we cry about it, the more pressure is put upon the devs to fix it. Keep the whining up, lads!! Except when all of their available manpower is already on it. A squeaky wheel gets the grease, but no matter how much is squeaks it won't make oil sprout from the ground. So, the squeaky wheel just stops squeaking? In order for that to happen, it would need some grease...we can do this all day.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.03 19:25:00 - [19] Originally by: Skarvl Mandoo So, the squeaky wheel just stops squeaking? In order for that to happen, it would need some grease...we can do this all day. In that case I'll cut to the chase - Based on the dev blogs, dev responses, and recent patch notes, I'm willing to bet that all available manpower is being put toward reducing lag and eliminating desync. Trying to get their attention on the forums is therefore a waste of time because they're already aware of the problem and are doing everything they can to fix it. ------------ Whiners - Unite! \| Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist.
Lea Re Dirty Labs	Posted - 2007.10.03 21:02:00 - [20] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Skarvl Mandoo So, the squeaky wheel just stops squeaking? In order for that to happen, it would need some grease...we can do this all day. In that case I'll cut to the chase - Based on the dev blogs, dev responses, and recent patch notes, I'm willing to bet that all available manpower is being put toward reducing lag and eliminating desync. Trying to get their attention on the forums is therefore a waste of time because they're already aware of the problem and are doing everything they can to fix it. Agreed. They surely know that if they don't reduce lag they will start losing player base. So they must be working on it as hard as they can. So if the wheel stops squeaking but the driver knows its broken, he'll fix it cause he's gonna be too scared to lose the whole cart/wagon/car... It just takes time. Also, a lot of people whining about lag should actually look at their rigs, not CCPs. I know for fact that MY lag decreased when i finally purchased an up to date computer. But do not worry if you don't have top notch machine. Trinity 2 is actually supposed to work faster.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.03 21:37:00 - [21] It looked like you were trying to stuff so many in local that we wouldn't siege and you would win without a fight tbh. Lagging up a system to win by default is all well and good but it will bite you in the ass from time to time. We could have had a good fight when local was slightly in your favour and cap fleets where fairly even but you got trapped in the more more more mentality. Shouldn't need 400+ to fight against 200 really, and then blaming the smaller force on the lag is just....... well
Jim Lovell Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 01:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Murukan I'm in stain and not FAT and i can't even log in :( Buwahahahaha! Sometimes you just gotta laugh!
Jim Lovell Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 01:06:00 - [23] Originally by: fire 59 It looked like you were trying to stuff so many in local that we wouldn't siege and you would win without a fight tbh. Lagging up a system to win by default is all well and good but it will bite you in the ass from time to time. We could have had a good fight when local was slightly in your favour and cap fleets where fairly even but you got trapped in the more more more mentality. Shouldn't need 400+ to fight against 200 really, and then blaming the smaller force on the lag is just....... well I thought the idea was to give you guys a royal whipping?
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.10.04 01:11:00 - [24] FAT-6? Sounds like someone should upgrade to FAT-32! lolololololololololol
Bodhisattvas mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.10.04 01:43:00 - [25] 3/4 of you peeps right click then self destruct, go make a coffee. At least making the coffee comes close to being productive. Please keep your 0.0 blob fests to yourself, its a pain having to read about it on forums.
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.04 01:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Bodhisattvas 3/4 of you peeps right click then self destruct, go make a coffee. At least making the coffee comes close to being productive. Please keep your 0.0 blob fests to yourself, its a pain having to read about it on forums. who forced u to read it? none so blame uself and get over it,
Bodhisattvas mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.10.04 02:23:00 - [27] Edited by: Bodhisattvas on 04/10/2007 02:25:59 Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Bodhisattvas 3/4 of you peeps right click then self destruct, go make a coffee. At least making the coffee comes close to being productive. Please keep your 0.0 blob fests to yourself, its a pain having to read about it on forums. who forced u to read it? none so blame uself and get over it, Look getting serious here!!! You know how many hamsters you guys kill when you overload clusters !!!!!!!!!! Man for the love of field mice (close relatives of said hamsters) leave em be!! Hamster abuse BTW band of brothers ? is that some kind of Brotherly love circle jerk wow guild or something ?
Wigglytuff Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.04 02:29:00 - [28] "Dear CCP, our 650+ people are lagging FAT, please give us a node so the other 650 guys wanting to fight can try to come in and make it worse." If FAT had zero lag with 650 people, we'd see 1650 people there and whines about it. 650 people in jita is likely not nealy as CPU intensive as 650 people fighting. I often wonder how much CPU is wasted on minor things like DPS tracking for KMs. I could only imagine if it had to factor in the landscape for blocking turrets and missiles.
lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.04 02:48:00 - [29] Originally by: Wigglytuff If FAT had zero lag with 650 people, we'd see 1650 people there and whines about it. 650 people in jita is likely not nealy as CPU intensive as 650 people fighting. Not true actually. At the current moment, 3 - 400 people is about the max any alliance can / will field on a...semi-regular basis. In a year, we'll look back and go 'Phht, 500 vs 500? That's child's-play' --- Project Mayhem 2
Vorok Silver Aria	Posted - 2007.10.04 02:59:00 - [30] Originally by: Taedrin FAT-6? Sounds like someone should upgrade to FAT-32! lolololololololololol I'm hanging out in NTFS. Pretty nice over here.

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