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Skraeling Shortbus Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.05 05:20:00 - [1] Edited by: Skraeling Shortbus on 05/10/2007 05:20:35 Anyone have any tips for nailing these guys, do I just need to get lucky and nab em in a belt with them targetted by rats so they cant cloak instead of having to warp off? Any ships that would be better suited to this (interceptor / cruiser). Having a bugger of a time trying to catch em. I need to get faster at scanning :(
Voodoo'sMother	Posted - 2007.10.05 06:22:00 - [2] Get a good covert ops ALT . Oh and get lucky ! --------------------------------------------------- Yeah I typo- So what.
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.05 06:34:00 - [3] just nailed one ^_^
Hypothetical Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.10.05 06:39:00 - [4] From my experiences with them, you need luck. Most of them will fit 2 warp core stabs, in addition to logging at the first sign of trouble (ie you entering local). I've had luck with a Myrmidon fitted with 2x 7.5km warp scramblers. Since they all fit WCS, they have to warp at the belts at 0 since their targeting ranges are crap, meaning your 7.5km scrams are plenty to lock them down. And of course they can't tank once you catch them, EM drones (or whatever, they really can't tank) will rip them apart. This only works if the gate you come in from is within scan range and you're good with the scanner though, otherwise they'll be gone. Now, the smart ones just warp or log as soon as local goes up, only thing to do here is see which belt they log in, warp there, log yourself, and get lucky and log back on while they're finishing that same belt. Basically, it can't be done until CCP does something about logging to avoid PvP or cloaks.
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.05 07:21:00 - [5] Both of the ones i hunt regularly fit 0 stabs neither log either the wrinkle is that the systems they rat in are hard to scan quickly with the ship scanner giving them time to cloak in belt or warp. To bad for this latest guy he thought warping to his safe but not cloaking would be enough.... fail. [url=mm.shiva-corp.com/kb?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=35567]
Viral Effect	Posted - 2007.10.05 08:46:00 - [6] The fact that he can avoid you is a great part of eve. If a pilot wants to avoid pvp with you then the mechanics should be there for him to do so and in this case they are. A raven ratting at a belt with a ratting fitted ship will more than likely avoid pvp for this reason. This isnt farming.
Pedronicus Caldari The Chaotic Order Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.05 08:56:00 - [7] Just get lucky, fit more than one scram and even if they escape just keep the system they are in occupied most of the time either by you or some fellow friends, this should derail their morale and they may leave. Once they are scrambled it's easy i even once killed a ratting raven with a BC ofc i got lucky and caught him in first belt i searched for him at zero warp in point. -------------------------------------------------- Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves.
Rooker Lysian Enterprises	Posted - 2007.10.05 11:47:00 - [8] Probably all you can really do is cloak in the top belt and wait for him to get tired of hiding. Then jump him when he starts ratting again. I've been lucky so far. The couple of times I've found ratting farmers, I guess they weren't paying attn to local. Had enough time to scan down their belt and warp in. -- This Space For Rent
VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.10.05 19:35:00 - [9] Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 05/10/2007 19:35:59 If they are logging off I would try to to guess where they logged and put down a bubble. Then have someone waiting for them. You need to be pretty lucky to kill one of these bastards. If they simply ss and cloak when you enter local it is damned hard to kill one. CCP really needs to make it so non cov-ops cloaks can be probed out. Originally by: Viral Effect The fact that he can avoid you is a great part of eve. If a pilot wants to avoid pvp with you then the mechanics should be there for him to do so and in this case they are. A raven ratting at a belt with a ratting fitted ship will more than likely avoid pvp for this reason. This isnt farming. Tripple fail. A. There is no such thing as "pvp" FFS. B. There should never be a way to avoid combat in a video game, as fighting and killing is the sole point. C. This is a Chinese farmer, not an actual player.
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.07 01:44:00 - [10] Try a dual-scram fitted cov ops shortly followed by a real combat ship (probably with a remote rep to keep your cov ops alive). Too bad you can't fit a cov ops cloak on a stealth bomber-the farmer-slaughtering abilities of these ships would be epic. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.

hellsknights Hells Angels Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.07 03:19:00 - [11] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 05/10/2007 19:35:59 If they are logging off I would try to to guess where they logged and put down a bubble. Then have someone waiting for them. You need to be pretty lucky to kill one of these bastards. If they simply ss and cloak when you enter local it is damned hard to kill one. CCP really needs to make it so non cov-ops cloaks can be probed out. Originally by: Viral Effect The fact that he can avoid you is a great part of eve. If a pilot wants to avoid pvp with you then the mechanics should be there for him to do so and in this case they are. A raven ratting at a belt with a ratting fitted ship will more than likely avoid pvp for this reason. This isnt farming. Tripple fail. A. There is no such thing as "pvp" FFS. B. There should never be a way to avoid combat in a video game, as fighting and killing is the sole point. C. This is a Chinese farmer, not an actual player. I vote this "NEWB" to the idiot wagon, this game is not only a PvP game so if you wish to avoid it, it's your call. How in the hell do you know first off, he is Chinesse second he is macro ratting? BTW farming is something 95% of the player base do, some rat,mission,camp,roam for the only purpose to "farm" the loot. recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
Winters Chill Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.10.07 10:58:00 - [12] Originally by: hellsknights I vote this "NEWB" to the idiot wagon, this game is not only a PvP game so if you wish to avoid it, it's your call. How in the hell do you know first off, he is Chinesse second he is macro ratting? BTW farming is something 95% of the player base do, some rat,mission,camp,roam for the only purpose to "farm" the loot. I agree. It seems when ever a non-carbear comes on these forums to whine everyone has "macro" or "farmer" in thier adjectives, as if it somehow justifys ruthless behaviour(Your allowed to gank/kill anyone, you don't need an excuse). Just because people play the game in a way different from you (eg not buying ETC for isk) doesn't mean that they are: a) from asia or b) a macro farmer
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.07 11:13:00 - [13] i tend to just bump them from aligning anywhere. oh, and a pilgrim works ok, if you can catch them off guard, but I tend to only go after torp-using ravens, since cruise missles hurt a bit too much for my tastes. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) http://dl
mallina Caldari Sybrite Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.07 12:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Winters Chill Originally by: hellsknights I vote this "NEWB" to the idiot wagon, this game is not only a PvP game so if you wish to avoid it, it's your call. How in the hell do you know first off, he is Chinesse second he is macro ratting? BTW farming is something 95% of the player base do, some rat,mission,camp,roam for the only purpose to "farm" the loot. I agree. It seems when ever a non-carbear comes on these forums to whine everyone has "macro" or "farmer" in thier adjectives, as if it somehow justifys ruthless behaviour(Your allowed to gank/kill anyone, you don't need an excuse). Just because people play the game in a way different from you (eg not buying ETC for isk) doesn't mean that they are: a) from asia or b) a macro farmer Sometimes it's obvious though. When you go to 0.0, see a Raven briefly that immediately warps off and cloaks when you enter the system, who's about a year old, in the starting school, with a name like "Xiao15663" then it's quite a convincing sign. I shared a system with a Farmer once when I was trying to get my Sec Status back up, it took him about 2 days until he decided to uncloak and start NPCing with me in system, but he did. And started doing it 23/7. Angry that my spawns were being taken, I tried to bump him out of alignment whilst he was being shot up but failed to kill him and he just returned to his Safespot, but forgot to cloak. (he had always cloaked previously) His SS was inbetween 2 planets so I just made BMs between them until I got on the same Grid as him. I had a point this time too, so was ready for the kill - Got within range, scrambled him and... he warped angry at this waste of time, I proceeded to kill all the Giant Secure Containers he had gathered there, which probably contained Ammo seeing as I never saw him looting. He left the system and I never saw him again. ---
Doppler Shift Red 42 Infinite Innovation	Posted - 2007.10.08 01:30:00 - [15] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Tripple fail. A. There is no such thing as "pvp" FFS. B. There should never be a way to avoid combat in a video game, as fighting and killing is the sole point. C. This is a Chinese farmer, not an actual player. Spelling fail. Premise fail. Logic fail. --- This is what's left of my signatu...[siggienerf][/siggienerf]
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.13 01:25:00 - [16] Originally by: Winters Chill Originally by: hellsknights I vote this "NEWB" to the idiot wagon, this game is not only a PvP game so if you wish to avoid it, it's your call. How in the hell do you know first off, he is Chinesse second he is macro ratting? BTW farming is something 95% of the player base do, some rat,mission,camp,roam for the only purpose to "farm" the loot. I agree. It seems when ever a non-carbear comes on these forums to whine everyone has "macro" or "farmer" in thier adjectives, as if it somehow justifys ruthless behaviour(Your allowed to gank/kill anyone, you don't need an excuse). Just because people play the game in a way different from you (eg not buying ETC for isk) doesn't mean that they are: a) from asia or b) a macro farmer I think it was the smack in chinese characters he was throwing out at me gave it away... you know the whole not speaking english thing. And COME ON.... spamming chinese characters + cloaking raven + ratting all day everyday... tell me how hes NOT a chinese farmer again?
waferzankko Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.13 01:31:00 - [17] pretend your an isk farmer and then strike back at them when they least expect it.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:42:00 - [18] Originally by: Viral Effect The fact that he can avoid you is a great part of eve. If a pilot wants to avoid pvp with you then the mechanics should be there for him to do so and in this case they are. A raven ratting at a belt with a ratting fitted ship will more than likely avoid pvp for this reason. This isnt farming. How very very sad SKUNK Originally by: Jeximo I also like how your cat only managed to hit the enter button when he/she jumped on your keyboard.
Kzool	Posted - 2007.10.13 18:34:00 - [19] I killed like 20-25 ravens already in 1-2 months The trick is - you have to live there as well, they become used to you, they become more relaxed and from time to time they do mistakes. Try to ruin their boosted system, kill all NPC self so they'll agro you. If they dont - leave system and let them boost it again, come there and ruin it again. It made "my" chineese to attack me :) And sometimes, if you live with them for a long time, weird things can happen. Check, for example, my story :) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=601388 Anyway, you cant do your hunting fast. Hunting farmers takes time :)
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles	Posted - 2007.10.13 18:59:00 - [20] Originally by: Kzool Edited by: Kzool on 13/10/2007 18:38:52 I killed like 20-25 ravens already in 1-2 months The trick is - you have to live there as well, they become used to you, they become more relaxed and from time to time they do mistakes. Try to ruin their boosted system, kill all NPC self so they'll agro you. If they dont - leave system and let them boost it again, come there and ruin it again. It made "my" chineese to attack me :) More alts you have - better. Try to spread alts in nearby systems, that prevent them to hunt and makes angry. And sometimes, if you live with them for a long time, weird things can happen. Check, for example, my story :) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=601388 Anyway, you cant do your hunting fast. Hunting farmers takes time :) Its great to hear someone on these forums telling us that they can do it rather than hearing the whiners say that they cant. We dont want whiners turning eve to eve on easy mode. www.eve-players.com

Scott Ryder Infestation.	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:21:00 - [21] Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus just nailed one ^_^ i am surpriced
Freaky Reaky	Posted - 2007.10.13 21:45:00 - [22] Put some General Tso's Chicken in a can at a belt and cloak 15k from the can. He'll get hungry eventually.... ~TReb
AnarkiTheStorm FM Corp Insomnia.	Posted - 2007.10.14 11:38:00 - [23] wait for the next patch and cloaks to get nerfed --- Rararar....
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles	Posted - 2007.10.14 19:38:00 - [24] I would say that nerfing cloaks would be impossible as cloaking has been nerfed as far as it can realistically can be. However the art of "nerfing" is ccps speciality. www.eve-players.com
Saint Luka The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.14 20:03:00 - [25] Originally by: Viral Effect The fact that he can avoid you is a great part of eve. If a pilot wants to avoid pvp with you then the mechanics should be there for him to do so and in this case they are. A raven ratting at a belt with a ratting fitted ship will more than likely avoid pvp for this reason. This isnt farming. .... Was that an attempt at purposefull flamebait or are you just new too this game? -
civdariri	Posted - 2007.10.14 21:02:00 - [26] Sounds like a plausible use of game mechanics.
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.14 21:33:00 - [27] the farmers that live in fade routinely bring their unstabbed haulers and ravens through our home system
Faekurias Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.10.14 22:20:00 - [28] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 05/10/2007 19:35:59 If they are logging off I would try to to guess where they logged and put down a bubble. Then have someone waiting for them. You need to be pretty lucky to kill one of these bastards. If they simply ss and cloak when you enter local it is damned hard to kill one. CCP really needs to make it so non cov-ops cloaks can be probed out. Originally by: Viral Effect The fact that he can avoid you is a great part of eve. If a pilot wants to avoid pvp with you then the mechanics should be there for him to do so and in this case they are. A raven ratting at a belt with a ratting fitted ship will more than likely avoid pvp for this reason. This isnt farming. Tripple fail. A. There is no such thing as "pvp" FFS. B. There should never be a way to avoid combat in a video game, as fighting and killing is the sole point. C. This is a Chinese farmer, not an actual player. That was something like "instant macaroni", only that it was "instant failure". MY SIG FTW! \o/
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2007.10.14 23:16:00 - [29] actually i see no need to actually kill the ravens, i can just ask in local for 100m isk just to leave the system, about 1/4 of the time they pay, thats if they are logged on. ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Ogdru Jahad Amarr War Dawgs	Posted - 2007.10.14 23:23:00 - [30] if your so concerned about these so caled isk farmers then fine make it hard for them to rat. I have two in the system i am using to rep my sec status. Richard 01 and Johnson 01, while they have both been in "known" isk farming corps I just make the trouble harder for him/them. I found 4 giant secure cans at a planet 2 of each belonging to the pilots. now they are canless thanks to 2 hours and me being bored ****less with reppng my sec status. And yes we all farm to a degree. be it farming ships at a gate ( gate camp ) or going from belt to belt increasing ones sec status.... shall i give you 12,357,322 matches and 2 tonnes of pva glue now or later? ( so you can build your bridge and get over it ) - At last the Gallente can finally lay claim to saying... "my DICtor" is bigger than yours.



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