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KOTH Fluf Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.05 23:51:00 - [31] Morsus Mihi will reset them as soon as they have their stuff out of Tribute and Branch. I for one didnt want to shoot anymore towers. Its been a 3 month housecleaning up here, and I dont think I could shoot another tower right now. MC offered to remove them and I accepted. No big deal. Im sure we will be back to shooting each other soon. Fluf CEO Shiva Morsus Mihi
Mr Broker Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.10.05 23:57:00 - [32] Originally by: Silvestri Why Nap? After fighting with MC for years now...they are fun but...I wouldn't want them having an established base in my backyard...screw that...lol. Take em out!! Because we are honorable and only want good fights. MC can't give good fights when they are trapped down south. We'll just have to go to them, at our own pace of course.
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.06 00:00:00 - [33] Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 00:02:19 Just in case any further confirmation is needed, yes, MC has been given blue standings so they can peacefully take down what few assets they have in the north. Not that we particularly care how "weak" some of you smackers think this is, suffice it to say that at least for Morsus Mihi's part, we respect Mercenary Coalition and don't mind doing them a favor, especially when it is in mutual interest. While we may very well be shooting at them soon enough, there isn't much point in doing it up here right now. They are obviously otherwise engaged down south, so there is clearly some wisdom in their decision to pull out. I'm sure Mostly Harmless and whoever else was shooting at MC's "stuff" in Branch were more than happy and unafraid to do so and would have continued on had they been forced to go to the trouble of removing MC by force. I am certain there are those in MC who who would rather have fought it out, as well. It never ceases to amaze me how one-dimensional is the thinking of the average CAOD denizen. As if there's only one way, one right way to do something. As if something was always as simple and black and white as the first thing that comes to their minds. As always, MM stands ready to back up our friends and fight anyone who wishes to fight, including MC. It simply wasn't necessary this time. Great. We can move on. EDIT: Okay..well, Fluf beat me to it. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Anton Marx Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.06 03:29:00 - [34] \o/ more MC poses in Catch ...is all I have to say - Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate - [UMCON]Anton Marx
Voculus E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.10.06 04:01:00 - [35] Quote: Just in case any further confirmation is needed, yes, MC has been given blue standings so they can peacefully take down what few assets they have in the north. All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? _________________________________________________________
Thargat Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.06 04:14:00 - [36] Originally by: Voculus All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? Sure they are... MM must be aligned to bob now.... seriously... boohoo. Goodnight There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.10.06 04:22:00 - [37] MC/BoB are rich(as entities). Letting them take those towers down I dont think really affects their abilities to tower spam if they so desired. For MM/RZR not having to go through the hassle of taking them down is probably worth it. Besides strategically, it doesn't hurt to do a good turn which can probably be returned later. What everyone fails to realize is that even after "The Great War" is over, the pilots don't disappear. They reform/merge/re-invent themselves. Besides I think if they deploy them downsouth they will just get blown up anyway :) P.S. Good Job RZR/MM
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.06 05:09:00 - [38] Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:10:09 Originally by: Voculus Quote: Just in case any further confirmation is needed, yes, MC has been given blue standings so they can peacefully take down what few assets they have in the north. All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? I disagree with you. May I ask what IRON is up to these days? "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
WETRAIN Minmatar R.U.S.T. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.06 05:26:00 - [39] YOUWHAT?MOFO YOUWHAT? WHATYOUWHAT? I KILL YOU!?
Lucian Sulla Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.10.06 06:11:00 - [40] Originally by: Orree Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:31:12 Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:10:09 Originally by: Voculus Quote: Just in case any further confirmation is needed, yes, MC has been given blue standings so they can peacefully take down what few assets they have in the north. All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? I disagree with you. Besides, its really not as if that is the only factor by which people make decisions. May I ask what IRON is up to these days? Hiding in 8-2 and waiting for the end? No, really, I'm sure they'll finish building a cap fleet anyday now. Just leave the towers up, IRON will volunteer to kill them as soon as they can.
Ather Ialeas Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.06 06:46:00 - [41] Originally by: Voculus Quote: Just in case any further confirmation is needed, yes, MC has been given blue standings so they can peacefully take down what few assets they have in the north. All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? MM & MC - blue IRON & MM - ? IRON & MC - neutral or red Figure out the ? and go harrass the escaping hauler parties if it really matters to you. -
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.06 07:18:00 - [42] Originally by: Orree It never ceases to amaze me how one-dimensional is the thinking of the average CAOD denizen. As if there's only one way, one right way to do something. As if something was always as simple and black and white as the first thing that comes to their minds. ^^ As usual, Orree says everything that needs to be said. - THIS FLEET FOR RENT!
Kasheem Cetanes DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.06 08:13:00 - [43] Edited by: Kasheem Cetanes on 06/10/2007 08:13:29 I personally think it is ridiculous that MM some how convinced the rest of us that letting MC just unanchore and get out was a good idea. Especially when, in the grander scheme of things, it would have been better if MC had had to split off up north. In addition, the way we made F4t4l, M. Pire, AND COW gave us all their in space assets before leaving, MC certainly seems to be getting off easy when we could destroy to take so much
Mr Broker Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.10.06 08:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Kasheem Cetanes Edited by: Kasheem Cetanes on 06/10/2007 08:13:29 I personally think it is ridiculous that MM some how convinced the rest of us that letting MC just unanchore and get out was a good idea. Especially when, in the grander scheme of things, it would have been better if MC had had to split off up north. In addition, the way we made F4t4l, M. Pire, AND COW gave us all their in space assets before leaving, MC certainly seems to be getting off easy when we could destroy to take so much It's a good think you don't speak for your alliance. Just maybe MM leadership are experienced and know what they are doing?
Kola XXX Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 09:27:00 - [45] It's a good think you don't speak for your alliance. Just maybe MM leadership are experienced and know what they are doing? alt when are you gonna do something other than smack the forums and pretend to be a smart guy? you spelled thing wrong when you were flaming that guy ....winner..it's a good thing you don't speak for any alliance
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.10.06 09:51:00 - [46] Edited by: Cadiz on 06/10/2007 09:53:51 Quote: I personally think it is ridiculous that MM some how convinced the rest of us that letting MC just unanchore and get out was a good idea. Especially when, in the grander scheme of things, it would have been better if MC had had to split off up north. In addition, the way we made F4t4l, M. Pire, AND COW gave us all their in space assets before leaving, MC certainly seems to be getting off easy when we could destroy to take so much I think the bet here is that MC probably wouldn't have split off in any real force, and simply would arranged things to be as long, tedious, and generally unenjoyable for the attacking party as possible. If that was indeed the assumption, then the course of action taken here is pretty logical, as shooting POSes without the hope of fleet actions to break up the tedium is about as fun as dental surgery sans anaesthetic. Plus, who knows? Such civility and graciousness may reap some rewards somewhere far down the road... ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.10.06 10:07:00 - [47] Originally by: Moctobot Originally by: bulabuba The MC did what they went North to do, namely put down D2 and discourage the hell out of anyone up there who might have thought about following their example. Their reason for being there has passed. Frankly I'm surprised they stayed as long as they did. - Gob Stealth bombers work!
Lieutenant Obvious Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.06 10:24:00 - [48] Originally by: Kasheem Cetanes Edited by: Kasheem Cetanes on 06/10/2007 08:13:29 I personally think it is ridiculous that MM some how convinced the rest of us that letting MC just unanchore and get out was a good idea. Especially when, in the grander scheme of things, it would have been better if MC had had to split off up north. In addition, the way we made F4t4l, M. Pire, AND COW gave us all their in space assets before leaving, MC certainly seems to be getting off easy when we could destroy to take so much You need to gag yourself buddy. I don't know much, but I know you know less after that stupid brainfart.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.06 10:31:00 - [49] Originally by: Kasheem Cetanes Edited by: Kasheem Cetanes on 06/10/2007 08:13:29 I personally think it is ridiculous that MM some how convinced the rest of us that letting MC just unanchore and get out was a good idea. Especially when, in the grander scheme of things, it would have been better if MC had had to split off up north. In addition, the way we made F4t4l, M. Pire, AND COW gave us all their in space assets before leaving, MC certainly seems to be getting off easy when we could destroy to take so much You don't know what you are talking about. MC are still red to RZR. RZR been shooting MC pos every night this week so far in Branch. This is a low priority decision. RAWR and RZR came to diff conclusions and we're happy with that.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.06 11:01:00 - [50] Originally by: Orree Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:31:12 Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:10:09 Originally by: Voculus Quote: Just in case any further confirmation is needed, yes, MC has been given blue standings so they can peacefully take down what few assets they have in the north. All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? I disagree with you. Well its fairly clear cut. MC are involved in a POS spam war down south, and you're enabling them to take more POS's on to the front lines that, otherwise, would have been stranded. Not that I'm complaining either way, it being nothing to do with me. As you rightly say, thats not the only factor by which people make decisions. ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Yuto Kang Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.10.06 11:38:00 - [51] It's funny that after RAWR and RZR successfully attacked BKG to make M.Pire pull-out from the conflict in the south, evicted all McPets from the northern regions, effectively weaking BoB support in the north by that and thus/also laying the groundwork for TRI vs. YW some people have the nerve to moan about decisions the leadership makes. RAWR and RZR have shown that they can co-ordinate collaborative fleet ops very well, but also can act as single entities and thus they have a different stance on the situation with MC, which is perfectly fine. RZR keeps shooting MC, while RAWR will allow them safe passage through Tribute. This might be due to the good relations Fluf has with some MC members, RAWR pilots are annoyed with hours of silly POS shooting or because down the road maybe MC will pay back this favor in some way or another. Tbh this thread should have ended after the first 2-3 posts, no one here is in the position to question decisions made by RZR or RAWR leadership as they don't have to answer to anyone. ___________________________
Gumpy Nighthawk Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.06 12:17:00 - [52] Originally by: Kasheem Cetanes Edited by: Kasheem Cetanes on 06/10/2007 08:13:29 I personally think it is ridiculous that MM some how convinced the rest of us that letting MC just unanchore and get out was a good idea. Especially when, in the grander scheme of things, it would have been better if MC had had to split off up north. In addition, the way we made F4t4l, M. Pire, AND COW gave us all their in space assets before leaving, MC certainly seems to be getting off easy when we could destroy to take so much I honestly don't know who you are, i've never seen you before for sure, but uhm maybe read stuff before posting this nonsense, if you want to shoot MC, go ahead they are still red to us and as far as i'm concerned will always be. Even though i'd rather have taken a couple of shots at them aswell, shooting pos' for the last 4 weeks gets kinda boring and this way we can concentrate on just fighting internet spaceships and not towers.
Mr Broker Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.10.06 12:22:00 - [53] Originally by: Kola XXX It's a good think you don't speak for your alliance. Just maybe MM leadership are experienced and know what they are doing? alt when are you gonna do something other than smack the forums and pretend to be a smart guy? you spelled thing wrong when you were flaming that guy ....winner..it's a good thing you don't speak for any alliance When you stop ignoring me, thought that went without saying, "smart guy".
Sae Eha	Posted - 2007.10.06 12:37:00 - [54] Originally by: Yuto Kang This might be due to the good relations Fluf has with some MC members, RAWR pilots are annoyed with hours of silly POS shooting or because down the road maybe MC will pay back this favor in some way or another. If anything, this is the payback for MC keeping the cap blob out of MM space.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.06 12:40:00 - [55] Originally by: Mr Broker Originally by: Silvestri Why Nap? After fighting with MC for years now...they are fun but...I wouldn't want them having an established base in my backyard...screw that...lol. Take em out!! Because we are honorable and only want good fights. MC can't give good fights when they are trapped down south. We'll just have to go to them, at our own pace of course. The "we just want good fights" is getting very old as an excuse for being pussies. isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.06 14:14:00 - [56] Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 06/10/2007 14:14:53 Originally by: Death Merchant even after "The Great War" is over that could require several thousand pilots, on one side or the other of the conflict, to completely retire from new eden. i think the great war may be here until the space-cows-come-home.
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.06 14:53:00 - [57] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Orree Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:31:12 Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:10:09 Originally by: Voculus Quote: Just in case any further confirmation is needed, yes, MC has been given blue standings so they can peacefully take down what few assets they have in the north. All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? I disagree with you. Well its fairly clear cut. MC are involved in a POS spam war down south, and you're enabling them to take more POS's on to the front lines that, otherwise, would have been stranded. Not that I'm complaining either way, it being nothing to do with me. As you rightly say, thats not the only factor by which people make decisions. Okay..let me think about this. That must be because MC is strapped for cash to buy new towers AND NPCs stopped selling them, so there's a finite supply now...and...and...the easiest way to get more towers down south would be to go up to BRANCH, spend time un-anchoring them, transporting them from the top of the map to the bottom of the map and then put them up in Catch. I see what you mean now. I guess we all better be careful with the towers still in circulation, then. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Arnaud Toroge Amarr mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.10.06 15:06:00 - [58] Edited by: Arnaud Toroge on 06/10/2007 15:09:46 Quote: All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? ...I think it helps out MM also...they dont have to mess with MC for a bit and can focus more on making themselves more powerful...I think that MM knows exactly what they are doing. And, I don't even know what to say about anyone who actually enjoys shooting at PoS's cause I know back when I was involved in PoS warfare in Curse Alliance for a month or two straight i hated even logging into eve (and look where Curse Alliance is now...sigh) I <3 Muffin_Factory though :D =========================================
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.06 15:11:00 - [59] Originally by: Orree Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Orree Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:31:12 Edited by: Orree on 06/10/2007 05:10:09 Originally by: Voculus Quote: Just in case any further confirmation is needed, yes, MC has been given blue standings so they can peacefully take down what few assets they have in the north. All that does is help BoB in the end. You're aware of that, aren't you? I disagree with you. Well its fairly clear cut. MC are involved in a POS spam war down south, and you're enabling them to take more POS's on to the front lines that, otherwise, would have been stranded. Not that I'm complaining either way, it being nothing to do with me. As you rightly say, thats not the only factor by which people make decisions. Okay..let me think about this. That must be because MC is strapped for cash to buy new towers AND NPCs stopped selling them, so there's a finite supply now...and...and...the easiest way to get more towers down south would be to go up to BRANCH, spend time un-anchoring them, transporting them from the top of the map to the bottom of the map and then put them up in Catch. I see what you mean now. I guess we all better be careful with the towers still in circulation, then. Are you guys gettin the towers at a discounted rate? not flame, serious question. I driks alots
Nemain Darru Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.06 15:33:00 - [60] Originally by: Prophet Malcalypse3 Why shoot towers and burn diplomatic bridges with a mercenary force you may use in the future? good choice Northern thingies. off topic KALLISTE Malaclypse :D Shoot first. Think later.

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