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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.07 18:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Zaethiel
Originally by: Xaarist
NERF them MORE!!! FFS.
why? a raven with 2 stabs is still able to rat perfectly fine and avoid being locked down by the most ships. it can fit a cloak as well which does not take away any firing capability. cloak + stabs = ISK for the farmers. it is so pathetic one could come to think it is intentional by CCP.
a ship with WCS should be able to ONLY travel safer, and not being able TO LOCK ANYTHING.
Meh Ctrl + Q is a bigger problem. I enter local and poof everyone in local is instantly gone.
local does need nerfing, yes
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JoeSomebody
No Trademark
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Posted - 2007.10.07 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: JoeSomebody on 07/10/2007 19:13:43
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Zaethiel
Originally by: Xaarist
NERF them MORE!!! FFS.
why? a raven with 2 stabs is still able to rat perfectly fine and avoid being locked down by the most ships. it can fit a cloak as well which does not take away any firing capability. cloak + stabs = ISK for the farmers. it is so pathetic one could come to think it is intentional by CCP.
a ship with WCS should be able to ONLY travel safer, and not being able TO LOCK ANYTHING.
Meh Ctrl + Q is a bigger problem. I enter local and poof everyone in local is instantly gone.
local does need nerfing, yes
easy solution to that is to not leave local... they play logoff games with you - you play afk cloaker game with them... you will win every time.
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zeamiun
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Posted - 2007.10.07 21:42:00 -
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I see bob is letting a lot of nubs in. Goin down hill from here I see.
I don't know why you think stabs are the problem. Stabs were designed so people who didnt want to fight could avoid it, when they were nerfed to uselessness for combat which was the point it was buffed for the others who fit it, because now people had no need to carry a full rack of disruptors.
To add now people fit speed setups instead which are even more immune to being caught then stabs ever were (except maybe stabageddons and the like). Thats why the vaga was so powerful speed AND stabs. If CCP had any sense they would have made stabs nerf speed and align time. (eg add mass).
Anyway stabs arnt half the problem:
Alignment: you will never catch a ratter who is always aligned
Scanner: You can't warp cloaked in a dictor and thus an aligned ratter will always see you coming
You will never ever catch a competant ratter as long as you can align.
Cntrl+q: Puts a timer on the time it takes you to scan him out so you can't grief somone for more then 15 minutes.
Cloaking device:
Who cares about not being seen aspect, cloaking device makes it so you can't be scanned. This is by far the best ratting tool ever, stabs aint got nothing on this. Even without a cloaking device you can just warp to a pos instead same effect.
Stabs:
Won't stop you from getting bubbled, wont stop an arazu from getting you, won't stop an inty from getting you, will stop a casual pirate from getting you.
Anyway don't be such a nubbin, just beacuse you are in bob and ccp is at your beckon call doesn't mean you need to go and ask them to make your life any easier. It's complete bull**** that you think you should be able to catch and kill anyone anywhere and ruin their fun for a while.
It's even more bull**** that you think the game should be catered to you.
Now because im a nice guy let me give you some help:
1. cloaked arazu wiating in belt
2. anchored bubble + cloaked ship
3. afk cloaked ship in local
4. watch target in cov ops cloak to learn behaivor
Ravens align slow as hell so you should easily be able to point one who is warping into you, or dictor one. Have some patience.
You shouldn't be able to warp in and have things warp to you and you subsequently press I win buttons. Eve is pretty lopsided any engagement you don't choose is likly to end in your death, therefore it should be relativly easy to not engage people.
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Rollotamasi
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Posted - 2007.10.07 22:00:00 -
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Instead of ganking people doing missions why don't you just go look for a real challenge? It kinda sounds to me that you are whining that you can't get easy kills.
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Boonaki
Caldari
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 06:59:00 -
[35]
Why doesn't the farmer use FOF missiles, all stabs, and a cloak. Doesn't need to lock anything.
Fear the Ibis of doom!
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Ampoliros
Shadow Company
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.10.08 07:32:00 -
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ye gods, everyone needs to leave the CAOD crap and other tinfoilery in CAOD
Stabs aren't the problem, they have their drawbacks and they don't make you immune to bubbling, the problem is how insanely easy it is to logoffski and/or cloak and wait the whole thing out, both of which could be easily fixed.
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Doxs Roxs
White Wolves Defence league
The OSS
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Posted - 2007.10.08 09:14:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Xaarist
NERF them MORE!!! FFS.
why? a raven with 2 stabs is still able to rat perfectly fine and avoid being locked down by the most ships. it can fit a cloak as well which does not take away any firing capability. cloak + stabs = ISK for the farmers. it is so pathetic one could come to think it is intentional by CCP.
a ship with WCS should be able to ONLY travel safer, and not being able TO LOCK ANYTHING.
Your pathetic rant tells us more about your abilities then the guy you are complaining about. You have 2 simple choices, bring an interdictor and bubble him or bring more points...
Its not rocket science.
Regards
/Doxs
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2007.10.08 10:10:00 -
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Did I just read this topic as 'I want to gank more NPCers in 0.0'?
Go find some real fights, and stop moaning about people who don't want to PvP being able to fit to avoid it.
If it's that bad a problem, take a dictor, or more points of tackle. Play the game instead of playing the forums.
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.10.08 10:20:00 -
[39]
HOW I MINE FOR FISH?
Say that in local and you will blend right in, then you can spring the gank on the unsuspecting ebil T1 fitted ratting raven with a 12 point lachesis...
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E Vile
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Posted - 2007.10.08 11:04:00 -
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I hate the super magic escape button cntrl Q is. Reminds me of the ***-o times I had warping after a certain freighter. Insta warp escaping is very cheesefilled. Please get rid of that escape tactic option.
"The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering."
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Soros
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.08 11:08:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Zaethiel
Originally by: Xaarist
NERF them MORE!!! FFS.
why? a raven with 2 stabs is still able to rat perfectly fine and avoid being locked down by the most ships. it can fit a cloak as well which does not take away any firing capability. cloak + stabs = ISK for the farmers. it is so pathetic one could come to think it is intentional by CCP.
a ship with WCS should be able to ONLY travel safer, and not being able TO LOCK ANYTHING.
Meh Ctrl + Q is a bigger problem. I enter local and poof everyone in local is instantly gone.
word.
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Revenge 1
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Posted - 2007.10.08 11:38:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Xaarist
NERF them MORE!!! FFS.
why? a raven with 2 stabs is still able to rat perfectly fine and avoid being locked down by the most ships. it can fit a cloak as well which does not take away any firing capability. cloak + stabs = ISK for the farmers. it is so pathetic one could come to think it is intentional by CCP.
a ship with WCS should be able to ONLY travel safer, and not being able TO LOCK ANYTHING.
Guess you've never needed 6 points to lock down a sniper before the nerf bat swung.
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Grendelsbane
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Posted - 2007.10.08 17:43:00 -
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Warp Core Stab nerf is silly to begin with. You already give up low slot space that could be used for DPS, tanking, or cargo space - it's called "opportunity cost".
Without the nerf it would be harder to pin people down since more people would run them, but you'd still have more PvP going on because people would be more willing to try hit and run raids. PvP is pretty much all or nothing, as it stands now. Plus.. let's not forget those giant mobile warp disruptor bubbles.
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Soultaker Angel
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Posted - 2007.10.08 17:45:00 -
[44]
Hey Hey.... !! This post already died!
Stop bringing back again and again
Stupid is the one that write under me 
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:00:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Kurogauna on 08/10/2007 20:00:20
/signed
- The stupid one
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:03:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Xaarist
Edited by: Xaarist on 07/10/2007 10:07:00
Originally by: Lazuran
Originally by: Xaarist
NERF them MORE!!! FFS.
why? a raven with 2 stabs is still able to rat perfectly fine and avoid being locked down by the most ships. it can fit a cloak as well which does not take away any firing capability. cloak + stabs = ISK for the farmers. it is so pathetic one could come to think it is intentional by CCP.
a ship with WCS should be able to ONLY travel safer, and not being able TO LOCK ANYTHING.
Use a dictor you whiner...
dude, ppl that are always aligned and hitting scanner tend to run from dictors. it's hard enough to catch them farmers without your witty comments.
Lets see shall wee?
recon ship warps in... sees said ship ratting and aligned. he positions him self INFRONT of said ratter... then moves towards him. by the time the said ratter could do anything , said recon pilot has bumped said alaigned ship off of warping out. IF the recon ship is a Gallante ship he can then lock him down with 3 or four points and sensore dampen him MORE!
end result should be dead ratter when the bob gank squad comes along.
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At last the Gallente can finally lay claim to saying... "my DICtor" is bigger than yours.
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Lunch Money
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:39:00 -
[47]
/signed
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:58:00 -
[48]
If wcs fitted ships are a problem to you, you should really consider moving back to empire and learn to play.
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Nicocat
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:27:00 -
[49]
Why is BoB trying to nerf their industrial wings?
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SEED ME DADDY
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Mymh Heretache
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Posted - 2007.10.09 00:59:00 -
[50]
Seen quite a bit of those in BOB space.. you know they're there just to farm ISK, you also know they don't engage in combat, ever.
Shooting them down is not the only solution.
I had one of those in a system I used to frequent to earn my pvp money. She aligned, and used cloak. I had no recon nearby but I picked up a regular cloak, warped in, scanned her down to belt #10 of 20, warped to belt 13, cloaked, waited. A few mins later she warps in, aligns. I decloak and start target, of course I can't make it, I'm just checking the behaviour.. and I got her safespot pinned down.
She logs off, I start rat and just wait for her to come back. She logs in, warps to belt and start rat, I see her on scanner. Warps to her belt, she warps off instantly.
I kept doing this for a few days and after a while she swapped system.
She was no threat to me, neither to anyone else, all she did was making profit off things that I couldn't kill myself anyway - and I was able to force her away. I couldn't care less in that case as it was BOB space, and in your situation, if your space is so precious - you should consider to either not take as much space if you can't control it (learn from the Roman empire), or you just do what other people suggested here: bring friends.
It's not hard to keep those people out of your systems. And it's not hard for them to find systems where it's a pain to keep them away. Guess why they are doing it? ;) They pose no threat (pvp wise), and not much isk-wise either.
Wcs is fine, if anything they need to be buffed. Keeping 5-6 on a BS and still failing to get through a lowsec camp with 4 ships is ridicilous, still it happens. That's what wcs was made for and should work for. Camping is honestly ruining a major portion (of the pvp) of this game.
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Futher Bezluden
Minmatar
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.09 03:34:00 -
[51]
When will CCP make use of the ill-defined "Propulsion Strength".
THUKKER -Be Paranoid
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.09 08:19:00 -
[52]
The nerf should be something like: No offensive mods may be online when using at WCS. So Speed fittings = yes, but ECCM mods (damps, TDs ect.) and Turrets and Bays should automatically be offline when using them.
But then again. . .its never going to happen.
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Rennard
Aku Soku Zan
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Posted - 2007.10.09 12:35:00 -
[53]
Very
Very
Good
Idea.
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VaderDSL
Caldari
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.09 13:01:00 -
[54]
Arazu/Lachesis + Recon 5 + 2* Domination Warp Scramblers + Sensor Boosters = 22km 4 points for virtually no cap use or ISK.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Do Or Die And Live Or Try
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Posted - 2007.10.09 13:22:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Xaarist
NERF them MORE!!! FFS.
why? a raven with 2 stabs is still able to rat perfectly fine and avoid being locked down by the most ships. it can fit a cloak as well which does not take away any firing capability. cloak + stabs = ISK for the farmers. it is so pathetic one could come to think it is intentional by CCP.
a ship with WCS should be able to ONLY travel safer, and not being able TO LOCK ANYTHING.
WCS Nerf was against pirate snipers 200km from a gate. Not against ratters.
You just failed to catch him, not WCS fault that you expect him not to have any.
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.09 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Laboratus
Ravens don't need to lock anything to rat. Just fire FOF cruise and go afk.
FOFs dont fire past locking range.
FoFs have their own locking range, of 80km. They do not go past this range. Which means pretty much any rats, will close, fire and be valid FoF targets.
4 stab FoF drake FTW :)
lol, yeah Wins after like 15 minutes
Drake with no BCS has crap DPS. A drake with as many as it can fit and still tank is still pretty crappy DPS.
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.10.09 13:58:00 -
[57]
WCS and scrambling is way too mickey mouse, it needs to be totally redone.
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Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler
Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Arkyk
Viper Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:00:00 -
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A WCS prevented someone from being disrupted??
This is clearly a serious bug.
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Akat
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:28:00 -
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Its not nearly as bad compared to before the nerf. Back then, it was not uncommon to see some "farmers" packing 3-5 wcs. Now, when I specifically hunt said "farmers" I fly a ship that can fit -3 and they are as good as dead IF they don't run and cloak first.
I do agree that wcs do not belong on any combat ship and nerfing them further would do just that. However, I don't think nerfing wcs again would do too much good in catching these "farmers." Mainly because they are ALWAYS aligned to a ss and they will run when anyone enters local, regardless.
I'd rather see local chat "adjusted" in a way to make it less of a tactical tool. As it stands, these "farmers" are pretty much untouchable unless they get*****y, aren't paying attention, or you enter local and pin their belt (as they are dropping out of warp on the next belt) with flawless timing.
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