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Tauscha Vald'or
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Posted - 2007.10.12 06:05:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Krazy Bitsch
Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or
Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it.
I've got an idea....talk down to the kid, that sounds like a good idea....stfu
Ahh, snark. Not effective.
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Jack Target
Koshaku
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.12 06:11:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Jack Target on 12/10/2007 06:13:20
BTW, computer game 'addiction' is not really (medically speaking) an addiction - it's a form of 'escapism'.
Therefore, once you improve the real life situation you are trying to escape from, the 'addiction' should go, and sensible moderation will come back.
So Sylvia, the question to ask yourself is what are you trying to escape from, and how can you improve this situation?
Once you solve this problem, everything else should resolve with time, and you might find yourself playing Eve sensibly! (And as everything else is going well your parents should allow it) 
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Kastar
Memphis Technologies
Intergalactic Brotherhood
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Posted - 2007.10.12 07:58:00 -
[33]
Originally by: franny
Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or
You can still have fun, it is cake to get a good education and still have plenty of free time. That free time dissapears when we become adults...full time work, full time family, part time play of you can find the time at all.
Damn, I want to be a kid again.
ya, my wife works days, I work nights
I watch the youngest 2(we have four 15, 8, 4, and 1) during the day, while the older 2 are in school
That were a few nasty quickies during the handover 
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Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:17:00 -
[34]
Hmm, bit of a dilema you've got yourself there OP. Thing is, while your parents are probably bringing up the 'school work first' argument (and that is important), my guess is they're just wanting to spend more time with their son or daughter.
If you're glued to a PC 23/7 that's going to worry them, they'll worry you're not out socialising, and enjoying the other stuff in life. Or in short theyre terrified their kids is turning into a 'billy no mates' geek.
Not that being a geeks a bad thing, you'll probably have a an above average IQ, but being a bit of an introvert will seriously hamper any later efforts to get a girlfriend / boyfriend or indeed any mates.
Id suggest you explain eve in detail to your parents, show them how complex and engaging it is. Ask your dad advice on stuff related to the game (he'll enjoy that) but also take some time to do other things aswell.
Trust me on this, your parents will be less worried about your school grades and more concerned about you as a person - cut 'em some slack and they'll do likewise.
C.
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jokerb
Caldari
THE INQUISITI0N
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:20:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or
Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette
anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p
As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE.
Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult?
If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision.
Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it.
Re-read and pay attention, this is how people of character act and behave. Kudos on the fine post :)
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:30:00 -
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I'd go a different route.
1. Find your daddy's **** collection on the computer. Its there, you just gotta find it.
2. Confront him with it and blackmail him into letting you play Eve.
3. If it was a especially big **** collection, you could probably squeeze some extra weekly allowance out of it as well.
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:34:00 -
[37]
Drop out of school and become a die-hard slacker.
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Oitaroh Rellikrats
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:38:00 -
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at least it's not as bad as my parents who blast me for subscribing to ****ography with my credit card because ccp decided to use the name 'Eve Online' when putting charges on my bills 
(there not tech savvy, I have to program the sky+ so they can record stuff)
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Minmatar Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:52:00 -
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For crying out loud, just gain their trust, and KEEP IT. Don't ever betray it, and let them get to know SOME (the good ones) of your friends. If you at least are able to do that, than you are set for a good portion of your life while your living in their house and by their rules. I know this because this is exactly what I have done (19now, so I had to have alot of trust in the past recently to do what I wanted). If you play their cards right you eventually gain enough of thier trust to be able to give them a call while your out and ask for permission to do something like stay out all night and come back tommrow afternoon and they could be fine with it IF they trust you.
And remember trust can be broken in 1 night, but takes a long time to gain. So don't do anything stupid unless it is absolutely worth it.
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Crazy Broad
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Haerana
do what i did. slack off, get your own pc and wait for your parents to give up all hope that you'll do any work.
Im a role model for all the kids!
I agree with this comment. 
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Some Caldari
Caldari
Sanguine Raiders
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:16:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Some Caldari on 12/10/2007 11:16:47
Find your dad's *naughty video* folder/stash and use it to blackmail him I've done this and it works a treat but please, please PLEASE. Don't look at the contents, some things you just don't want to know about your parents...
That or try and talk about it and use mind games.
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
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Frogzuk
Dragonian Freelancers
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:20:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or
Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette
anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p
As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE.
Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult?
If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision.
Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it.
/signed
this i fully endorse being a parent myself.
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O'Ran
The Sunset Squad
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:29:00 -
[43]
Honestly dude, id just tell your dad you play. Unlike most games eve is actually VERY educational. It has the possiblity of teaching alot of economics, corporation management, money management etc. without actually taking any losses in real life (apart from the monthly fee)
If i was a parent i really wouldnt mind my kids playin this.
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Doppler Shift
Red 42
Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:31:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Doppler Shift on 12/10/2007 11:32:08
Originally by: Lindsay Funke
Edited by: Lindsay Funke on 12/10/2007 02:27:46
Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or
Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette
anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p
As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE.
Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult?
If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision.
Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it.
Meh.. it's all well and good to say that as a parent, and especially one who actually does care to play eve/computer games. I don't watch TV and the only computer game I play is Eve, be it for many hours some days. That, for my parent's is weird and beyond comprehension.
Well whatever you do, be sure not to ever engage your parents so that each of you better understands the other. They're probably incapable of understanding anyway since they're like, older than the interwebs. Much better for you to just hide from them for hours in make-believe land.
2nd post is truth -- unfortunately, most people learn only from direct experience.
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Manic Smile
Tau Ceti Global Production
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:34:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Manic Smile on 12/10/2007 11:37:25
Edited by: Manic Smile on 12/10/2007 11:35:11
Either you deserve not to have any access to games, i.e. you get distracted easily and are failing school, or your dad is unreasonable to begin with and talking to him would be useless. Really this was never an issue for me to begin with unless I started slacking in school but some parents are hypochondriacs.
First off I take no responsibility on anything you do, my suggestion is purely for academic reasons. Google TrueCrypt...learn it, use it, love it. Learn to use the hidden volume option to put the game in and maybe throw some **** in the outer volume if that's the lesser evil. Delete all start menu options, check the my documents and be aware some files return unless you edit some of Eve's config flies. I believe the how is on the forums somewhere. Download a good registry editor, I don't recommend doing it by command line unless you know what you are doing but then again using the wrong program can be just as bad. Remove the uninstall flag and I'm pretty sure the program is now hidden. Just make sure to install TrueCrypt and the registry editor somewhere in the System folder among all the random programs and to remove their uninstall flags as well. You might want to check all the temp/temporary files as well.
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I hate the jpeg format.
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: O'Ran
Honestly dude, id just tell your dad you play. Unlike most games eve is actually VERY educational. It has the possiblity of teaching alot of economics, corporation management, money management etc. without actually taking any losses in real life (apart from the monthly fee)
If i was a parent i really wouldnt mind my kids playin this.
I'm thinking of adopting kids so that I can have my own army of isk farmers... 
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Bon Hedus
Amarr
O.E.C
Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.12 12:03:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or
Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette
anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p
As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE.
Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult?
If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision.
Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it.
I totally endorse this.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.12 12:19:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 12/10/2007 12:21:12
Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or
Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult?
Who said anything about getting caught?
Originally by: Haerana
do what i did. slack off, get your own pc and wait for your parents to give up all hope that you'll do any work.
Im a role model for all the kids!
Worked for me as well
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Dopple
Utopian Research I.E.L.
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.10.12 12:32:00 -
[49]
Talking too him would be best. Bring up how it is a good way to blow off some steam/stress. Let him know that if your grades suffer you will take it off. Make a post in the gathering's thread and look for players at your school or area around the school. Whatever reason he has find a way to counter that reason. Good luck.
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Janus Veyron
Veyron Group
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Posted - 2007.10.12 12:34:00 -
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god, my friend used to have to hide his install of Ultima Online because he father was a scout master. He had a stupid beard, wore socks with sandals, thought walking for 12 miles way good fun... And the reason he didn't let my friend play UO was because it 'Was killing his social skills'.
So we killed him and quartered the corpse and tossed it down a man hole.
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Sylvia Lafayette
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:48:00 -
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think I'll show my dad this post just for kicks... I do need to focus on school.
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vinnymcg
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:14:00 -
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I will tell you how to do it but TBH it probably will not because the way eve is now set up and as i am sure you know parents know everything YOU WILL GET CAUGHT!.
Install eve, open the C:/ drive and make a new folder, rename this folder and instead of giving the folder a name press and hold alt and press 2,2,5 this will give it inviable txt now right click the folder go the the customize tab and select choose icon, scroll across and pick one of the blank spaces. This will now make the folder invisible but still clickable go to C:/program files/ and copy the CCP folder to the invisible folder. Uninstall EVE. now if you want to play go to your invisible folder and a double click the eve icon.
But seriously talk to your dad and do not get too raped up in eve its a great game but thats all it is A GAME running after girls and getting a job are much more fun. You cannot go into a job interview and answer the question "Have you any leadership experience?" with "Yes I currently run an alliance with 1000 members which holds a large section of 0.0" well unless you apply for a job in CCP but even then you would need to have a very good education to work for them.
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Firebyrd
Gallente
Nomadic Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:38:00 -
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I am a parent, and have a son who i just started home schooling, he plays Runescape, and sometimes cleans up my missions, (like when i make supper, or go pick wife up from work), but he knows if he doesnt do or complete the days assignments, in school or cleaning something around the house, he doesnt get to play on the computer that day, or the playstation.....
You will have to prove that playing isnt going to interfere with your school grades..
My son also knows that if he goes behind my back he loses all game privledges for 2 weeks...
my son is 11...
If he continues to do well, like he is, i may get him his own Eve account... but i told him he has to earn the privledge to play
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Some Caldari
Caldari
Sanguine Raiders
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:54:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Firebyrd
he plays Runescape,
You sick person, no one should have to endure that!
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
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Maltitol
Gallente
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:56:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Haerana
do what i did. slack off, get your own pc and wait for your parents to give up all hope that you'll do any work.
Im a role model for all the kids!
this wins the thread!
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:58:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette
think I'll show my dad this post just for kicks... I do need to focus on school.
Good plan. You should also get him to try the game out, who knows what could happen :D
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Mrmuttley
Guns 'N' Hoses
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:23:00 -
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If your going down the "talk to the parents route" don't forget to add in to the conversation that Eve is neither illegal or ****ographic.
In defense of allowing kids to play PC games I personally was not allowed to play games on computers when I was a kid (20+ years ago) and i blame this attitude partially for my dropping out of university as i went out and brought a PC just as the original Command and Conquer came out.
The late nights drinking and the working full time to pay for the partying had absolutely nothing to do with screwing up my grades.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.12 16:44:00 -
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Not that I'm endorsing hiding EVE playing habits from your parents or anything - and don't assume they're not going to know, most parents have 'been there, done that'.
That aside:
EVE doesn't require being installed to work. You can copy the installation directory to a USB key, or some other removable storage - hell, even a CD, although you'll have fun patch day.
Alternatively, just install it somewhere 'unusual' on the hard disk, change it to 'hidden' directory attribute.
When you install it, it puts a key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
Delete that, and you'll have no entry in 'add/remove programs'
Or just copy the directory somewhere else, and then uninstall it again.
It also puts entries in 'My Documents' with chatlogs and settings and stuff. You'll have to make sure you tidy this up, or use that switch to the client that leaves stuff in the 'EVE' directory.
However, if your parents are saying 'nooo' then they're not just doing it to be gits. Chances are they think you're doing it too much, and your real life is suffering.
IF this is not the case, then by all means talk to them.
Point out the virtues of playing EVE, such as social interaction, economic theory, project management, tactical thinking.
*shrug* compromise > subterfuge.
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Vyyrus
An Eye For An Eye
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.12 16:56:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Vyyrus on 12/10/2007 16:58:38
Is your mom hot I could persuade her.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.10.12 17:14:00 -
[60]
Come up with a plan with your old man to do your work and homework or whatever and then get to play Eve. Explain why it's better for you to play that vegetate in front of the TV, as long as it doesn't cut into your schoolwork too much.
Yeah it sucks not to play a game, but otherwise when Eve Online is long, long gone, you'll look back and wonder why you don't have a good job all because of some game.
I'm glad I left school before the days of online gaming, otherwise I could definitely see myself in your situation.
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