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Sylvia Lafayette	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:42:00 - [1] anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:46:00 - [2] get a zip drive is your best bet Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...
Tauscha Vald'or	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it.
Haerana The Republican Guard The Sundering	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:49:00 - [4] do what i did. slack off, get your own pc and wait for your parents to give up all hope that you'll do any work. Im a role model for all the kids! Here comes the sig............. The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:54:00 - [5] Edited by: MITSUK0 on 12/10/2007 01:54:26 Trick him into playing then when he is hooked he can't moan at you anymore. Edit: Plus you can pod him.
Konquera McCall Acme Import Export	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:55:00 - [6] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. What he said. Seriously.
Rakeris Brethren Empire	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:57:00 - [7] Yeah talking to him is your best bet. Second would be getting your own PC, you can build a good one pretty cheap now days. But if you really want to go behind his back a flashdrive is your best bet. Be sure to change the default folder for where the games saves local data from the My Documents folder though. As that would be a bit of a give away. ---------- I gave up on sigs. As all the beatings from the abusive mods are starting to hurt and leave nasty bruises.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:58:00 - [8] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. What he said. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:15:00 - [9] Originally by: MITSUK0 Edited by: MITSUK0 on 12/10/2007 01:54:26 Trick him into playing then when he is hooked he can't moan at you anymore. Edit: Plus you can pod him. But he'll never be able to get his Dad off the PC ! ___
Transcendant One	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:19:00 - [10] Play it when you go to college.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p You should have posted this on your myspace account.. I'm sure that all the other slackers in your peerage will give you alot more sympathy.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Garonis Caldari Templars of Space Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:20:00 - [12] Edited by: Garonis on 12/10/2007 02:20:45 Originally by: MITSUK0 Edited by: MITSUK0 on 12/10/2007 01:54:26 Trick him into playing then when he is hooked he can't moan at you anymore. Edit: Plus you can pod him. My Pops kicked my buttocks playing pool one night (he's a shark, I swear!) I invited him to try a sport of my choosing; Eve PVP, where I proceeded to kick the dogsnot out of him... very rewarding (edit punctuation) This is my sig ^^
Lindsay Funke Bluth's Original Frozen Banana Stand	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. Meh.. it's all well and good to say that as a parent, and especially one who actually does care to play eve/computer games. I don't watch TV and the only computer game I play is Eve, be it for many hours some days. That, for my parent's is weird and being comprehension.
Fabrice Enchante Gallente Active Measures Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:32:00 - [14] Point out the educational aspects of Eve. You can learn stuff from the game; point out that article by the economist dude CCP hired. ================<ACTME>======================= Solutions to problems require Active Measures.
Damian Vilsalant Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:34:00 - [15] I remember having these kinds of problems when I played my first online games. The second big problem was of course the telephone bill for dial-up 28kbit connection.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Lindsay Funke Edited by: Lindsay Funke on 12/10/2007 02:27:46 Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. Meh.. it's all well and good to say that as a parent, and especially one who actually does care to play eve/computer games. I don't watch TV and the only computer game I play is Eve, be it for many hours some days. That, for my parent's is weird and beyond comprehension. They aren't wrong. If you can play EVE in moderation without gimping your performance at school then that is dandy - although really, speaking as someone who misspent their misspent youth on computer games I feel like I should point out there are much more fun things you could be doing with your time If on the other hand you couldn't then it would be your parents responsibility to see to it that you did spend your time in a productive manner. Imagine you had a son. Imagine instead of doing his schoolwork he spent all his time pew pewing in imaginary spaceships. What would you do about that? You've got to do something. Education isn't everything but not having one is a good way of shooting yourself in the foot as far as a career goes (yes. I know some people do fine without one. They are generally more talented and motivated than your hypothetical son is).
Asukari Sumai	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:48:00 - [17] Easiest way would be to buy a 2mb Flash drive and copy the EVE directory onto it and run it from there, when your done unplug the flash drive and no-one (unless they know where to look in the registry) will ever know EvE leaves one small entry in the registry which unless you know to look for it could easily be missed even by someone that knows the registry is all about, even if your dad does find it you can always deny all knowledge . And before the do-gooders start ... all kids lie to thier parents, it's just one of those things, you just think your kids would never lie to you
Corwain Gallente Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:49:00 - [18] Don't listen to any of these kids. Buy a 2GB flash drive and install EVE to it, preferable from another computer so the icon isn't put into add/remove programs (if not download a utility to get rid of it). You can now carry EVE with you anywhere! If you need to copy your cache folder off to the flash drive each time you finish. You can also run a registry export to do the same to the registry info EVE leaves behind. I suggest you write up a little script to do that for you each time so you're not poking around for 15min after playing. -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain
Riley Craven Caldari Copacetic Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:50:00 - [19] Oh god this brings back memories.... my dad used to make me use those typing programs for an hour before I got to play computer games. Thank God I am married and have my own place now. About parents... the thing is that even if you are straight with them, fear still consumes them... at least ones that care. Its really a coin toss trying to negoitate with someone that holds all the cards and power... But yeah get a portable drive (one that spins not a flash) It might take a while but you'll kill a thumb stick with all the read writing...
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 03:42:00 - [20] Eve doesn't need to be installed to run. Just coyp the directory (to a flash drive or where ever) and start it without installing it. Works just fine. And yea, think about talking to your parents. It's much better to live with a clean conscience than having to hide something. Forsch Defender of the empire
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.10.12 03:55:00 - [21] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. qft my kids used to have a computer, they were told they couldn't do certain things with it(go on certain sites, download games, etc) without my or my wife's permission as long as they kept up with schoolwork they didn't honor it, I changed my routers settings to block their access to the sites, their schoolwork still fell behind they proceeded to whine, cry and fight about who's fault it was, and who got to use the computer, begging me and my wife to allow them access again but still their schoolwork was falling behind lets just say I now have a 2nd pc to set EVE up on PKKP recruitment
Tauscha Vald'or	Posted - 2007.10.12 04:32:00 - [22] Originally by: franny my kids used to have a computer, they were told they couldn't do certain things with it(go on certain sites, download games, etc) without my or my wife's permission as long as they kept up with schoolwork they didn't honor it, I changed my routers settings to block their access to the sites, their schoolwork still fell behind they proceeded to whine, cry and fight about who's fault it was, and who got to use the computer, begging me and my wife to allow them access again but still their schoolwork was falling behind lets just say I now have a 2nd pc to set EVE up on That is beautifully evil. I mean "real good parenting". I was fortunate enough to get a decent job with no college. Education was second to religion growing up and I resent the HELL out of my parents for trying to train me to put that first. I broke free too late, but education should trump everything as a kid. You can still have fun, it is cake to get a good education and still have plenty of free time. That free time dissapears when we become adults...full time work, full time family, part time play of you can find the time at all. Damn, I want to be a kid again.
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.10.12 04:44:00 - [23] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or You can still have fun, it is cake to get a good education and still have plenty of free time. That free time dissapears when we become adults...full time work, full time family, part time play of you can find the time at all. Damn, I want to be a kid again. ya, my wife works days, I work nights I watch the youngest 2(we have four 15, 8, 4, and 1) during the day, while the older 2 are in school my 1yr old watches the pretty splosions... my 4yr old, read her a story, give her a snack and put on an education cartoon and she's great, try to play with her an OMGWTFPMS PKKP recruitment
Leora Nomen	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:08:00 - [24] If you say addiction that's definitely not good for you. For a grown person who's got some kind of degree(s) and work experience it's more or less OK to slack off and play EVE too much because he or she has already accomplished something and with a degree can get some kind of a decent job any time. But for someone who is in still in school or college it can really have a negative impact on future life. Make a deal with your parents. There are many positive effects to playing EVE. If you're into figuring out how the game works, there's a lot of math and technical things you can learn. It can even teach you more about human nature. Overall it's a whole better than watching TV shows as entertainment. Unless they are just completely against you spending any hours playing EVE you can make a reasonable compromise with them. Say you get to play 3 out of 7 days of the week but not the other 4 or something like it. And when EVE starts calling to you just remember that getting education should be your number one priority and games will always be there and can wait. guide to game time codes
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:16:00 - [25] Originally by: Lindsay Funke Edited by: Lindsay Funke on 12/10/2007 02:27:46 Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. Meh.. it's all well and good to say that as a parent, and especially one who actually does care to play eve/computer games. I don't watch TV and the only computer game I play is Eve, be it for many hours some days. That, for my parent's is weird and beyond comprehension. I can't say much for your post, though it's eerily true, but your sig is pure awesome. I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
slipshade	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:18:00 - [26] Edited by: slipshade on 12/10/2007 05:21:43 Install it....copy the directory, paste it somewhere else..uninstall using the Add remove.. Go to where u pasted the copy, find eve.exe, right click, add to start bar, drag said shortcut to Accessories (or Some other place dad dont visit), drop it, right click, properties, change icon, browse to windows/system32, select a dll (eg. %SystemRoot%\system32\DfrgRes.dll), chose a windows icon, select ok, right click icon again rename it to some boring wondows like name).... or hide in some random folder on c: and use the run cli to launch it.. I dont endorse this "hiding" stuff from parents thing, being a parnet myself..
Drizit Amarr Lonely out here	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:28:00 - [27] Edited by: Drizit on 12/10/2007 05:31:24 My stepson tried that. His mistake was thinking I was computer ignorant even though I was the one who set up the network, firewalls and everything else in the house. He played some RP game for a while and it was tolerated all the time he was doing his studies. When he started to play all night and bunk school so he could sleep and neglect his homework in favour of his addiction, he not only lost his ability to play the game but all of his internet rights as well. I didn't need to know where he had the game installed, it became pretty obvious he was abusing the tolerance we had for his addiction. I agree with Tauscha Vald'or, come clean and don't let it interfere with your schooling. Accept the responsibility and be more adult. You would be surprised to find that most parents respond better to honesty as long as you remain responsible about when you are playing and your priorities. It's true that many parents don't understand when their kids don't want to go out like they used to. However, just pointing out to them that facilities now for kids are not as good as they used to be. Also that most of your peers would be more likely to want you to vandalise and terrorise the neighborhood. Playing an online game is still interacting with others but in a way that allows you to avoid the troublemakers in your area, thereby keeping your nose clean and not bringing the cops to your door. The way to succeed is to see yourself as others see you. Put yourself in their place, be objective and criticise yourself when you see a weakness. --
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:35:00 - [28] Trying to get "how to hide stuff from parents" advice in a game that has an average player age close to 30 (so, very likely for many players to HAVE kids, or at least thinking of having some soon) is kind of a bad idea... Like most have already said, EVE is not a game you CAN properly play "hidden" in the first place, so better not even try it. The mere fact most of us suggest you don't try to hide it, but talk with your parents about it (a.k.a. advise you to be responsable) should already be a pretty strong point in FAVOR of them letting you play it. Personally, I think EVE can be very educational, from a "real-life useful" point of view. Hey, you might even want to point your parents to this thread and go "see, most people there tell me to be honest instead of helping be do what I wanted, that's got to count for something" _ 1\|2\|3
Krazy Bitsch	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. I've got an idea....talk down to the kid, that sounds like a good idea....stfu
4rc4ng3L C R Y O	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Haerana do what i did. slack off, get your own pc and wait for your parents to give up all hope that you'll do any work. Im a role model for all the kids! Man speaks thwe truth! ------------------------------*
Tauscha Vald'or	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:05:00 - [31] Originally by: Krazy Bitsch Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. I've got an idea....talk down to the kid, that sounds like a good idea....stfu Ahh, snark. Not effective.
Jack Target Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:11:00 - [32] Edited by: Jack Target on 12/10/2007 06:13:20 BTW, computer game 'addiction' is not really (medically speaking) an addiction - it's a form of 'escapism'. Therefore, once you improve the real life situation you are trying to escape from, the 'addiction' should go, and sensible moderation will come back. So Sylvia, the question to ask yourself is what are you trying to escape from, and how can you improve this situation? Once you solve this problem, everything else should resolve with time, and you might find yourself playing Eve sensibly! (And as everything else is going well your parents should allow it)
Kastar Memphis Technologies Intergalactic Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:58:00 - [33] Originally by: franny Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or You can still have fun, it is cake to get a good education and still have plenty of free time. That free time dissapears when we become adults...full time work, full time family, part time play of you can find the time at all. Damn, I want to be a kid again. ya, my wife works days, I work nights I watch the youngest 2(we have four 15, 8, 4, and 1) during the day, while the older 2 are in school That were a few nasty quickies during the handover -----------------------------------------------
Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 09:17:00 - [34] Hmm, bit of a dilema you've got yourself there OP. Thing is, while your parents are probably bringing up the 'school work first' argument (and that is important), my guess is they're just wanting to spend more time with their son or daughter. If you're glued to a PC 23/7 that's going to worry them, they'll worry you're not out socialising, and enjoying the other stuff in life. Or in short theyre terrified their kids is turning into a 'billy no mates' geek. Not that being a geeks a bad thing, you'll probably have a an above average IQ, but being a bit of an introvert will seriously hamper any later efforts to get a girlfriend / boyfriend or indeed any mates. Id suggest you explain eve in detail to your parents, show them how complex and engaging it is. Ask your dad advice on stuff related to the game (he'll enjoy that) but also take some time to do other things aswell. Trust me on this, your parents will be less worried about your school grades and more concerned about you as a person - cut 'em some slack and they'll do likewise. C. - sig designer - eve mail
jokerb Caldari THE INQUISITI0N	Posted - 2007.10.12 09:20:00 - [35] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. Re-read and pay attention, this is how people of character act and behave. Kudos on the fine post :)
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.10.12 09:30:00 - [36] I'd go a different route. 1. Find your daddy's ** collection on the computer. Its there, you just gotta find it. 2. Confront him with it and blackmail him into letting you play Eve. 3. If it was a especially big ** collection, you could probably squeeze some extra weekly allowance out of it as well. ------------------------------------------------
Ilvan	Posted - 2007.10.12 09:34:00 - [37] Drop out of school and become a die-hard slacker.
Oitaroh Rellikrats	Posted - 2007.10.12 09:38:00 - [38] at least it's not as bad as my parents who blast me for subscribing to ****ography with my credit card because ccp decided to use the name 'Eve Online' when putting charges on my bills (there not tech savvy, I have to program the sky+ so they can record stuff)
Minmatar Alt Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.12 09:52:00 - [39] For crying out loud, just gain their trust, and KEEP IT. Don't ever betray it, and let them get to know SOME (the good ones) of your friends. If you at least are able to do that, than you are set for a good portion of your life while your living in their house and by their rules. I know this because this is exactly what I have done (19now, so I had to have alot of trust in the past recently to do what I wanted). If you play their cards right you eventually gain enough of thier trust to be able to give them a call while your out and ask for permission to do something like stay out all night and come back tommrow afternoon and they could be fine with it IF they trust you. And remember trust can be broken in 1 night, but takes a long time to gain. So don't do anything stupid unless it is absolutely worth it. ---My Unjacked Sig Space---Can't Touch This Does Hammer Slide--- A Veldspar dies every 2 minutes, Donate money to me to help fund my rightous cause to stop further Veldspar Massacres.
Crazy Broad	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:04:00 - [40] Originally by: Haerana do what i did. slack off, get your own pc and wait for your parents to give up all hope that you'll do any work. Im a role model for all the kids! I agree with this comment. ------------------------------ Originally by: Captian Internet This thread isn't delivery its digorno
Some Caldari Caldari Sanguine Raiders	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:16:00 - [41] Edited by: Some Caldari on 12/10/2007 11:16:47 Find your dad's naughty video folder/stash and use it to blackmail him I've done this and it works a treat but please, please PLEASE. Don't look at the contents, some things you just don't want to know about your parents... That or try and talk about it and use mind games. ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Frogzuk Dragonian Freelancers KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. /signed this i fully endorse being a parent myself. DGF website Killboard
O'Ran The Sunset Squad Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:29:00 - [43] Honestly dude, id just tell your dad you play. Unlike most games eve is actually VERY educational. It has the possiblity of teaching alot of economics, corporation management, money management etc. without actually taking any losses in real life (apart from the monthly fee) If i was a parent i really wouldnt mind my kids playin this. ----- My views do not represent the views of my Corporation or Alliance. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected])
Doppler Shift Red 42 Infinite Innovation	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:31:00 - [44] Edited by: Doppler Shift on 12/10/2007 11:32:08 Originally by: Lindsay Funke Edited by: Lindsay Funke on 12/10/2007 02:27:46 Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. Meh.. it's all well and good to say that as a parent, and especially one who actually does care to play eve/computer games. I don't watch TV and the only computer game I play is Eve, be it for many hours some days. That, for my parent's is weird and beyond comprehension. Well whatever you do, be sure not to ever engage your parents so that each of you better understands the other. They're probably incapable of understanding anyway since they're like, older than the interwebs. Much better for you to just hide from them for hours in make-believe land. 2nd post is truth -- unfortunately, most people learn only from direct experience. --- This is what's left of my signatu...[siggienerf][/siggienerf]
Manic Smile Tau Ceti Global Production Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:34:00 - [45] Edited by: Manic Smile on 12/10/2007 11:37:25 Edited by: Manic Smile on 12/10/2007 11:35:11 Either you deserve not to have any access to games, i.e. you get distracted easily and are failing school, or your dad is unreasonable to begin with and talking to him would be useless. Really this was never an issue for me to begin with unless I started slacking in school but some parents are hypochondriacs. First off I take no responsibility on anything you do, my suggestion is purely for academic reasons. Google TrueCrypt...learn it, use it, love it. Learn to use the hidden volume option to put the game in and maybe throw some **** in the outer volume if that's the lesser evil. Delete all start menu options, check the my documents and be aware some files return unless you edit some of Eve's config flies. I believe the how is on the forums somewhere. Download a good registry editor, I don't recommend doing it by command line unless you know what you are doing but then again using the wrong program can be just as bad. Remove the uninstall flag and I'm pretty sure the program is now hidden. Just make sure to install TrueCrypt and the registry editor somewhere in the System folder among all the random programs and to remove their uninstall flags as well. You might want to check all the temp/temporary files as well. *courtesy of www.flickr.com I hate the jpeg format.
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Daikoku Fleet Shipyards	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:46:00 - [46] Originally by: O'Ran Honestly dude, id just tell your dad you play. Unlike most games eve is actually VERY educational. It has the possiblity of teaching alot of economics, corporation management, money management etc. without actually taking any losses in real life (apart from the monthly fee) If i was a parent i really wouldnt mind my kids playin this. I'm thinking of adopting kids so that I can have my own army of isk farmers... ~Ryoji Tanakama Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
Bon Hedus Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.10.12 12:03:00 - [47] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. I totally endorse this. -------------------------------------- Heavy Lag Spike II belonging to EvE Cluster Node #0815 hits your Connection, wrecking your latency to 998ms
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.12 12:19:00 - [48] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 12/10/2007 12:21:12 Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? Who said anything about getting caught? Originally by: Haerana do what i did. slack off, get your own pc and wait for your parents to give up all hope that you'll do any work. Im a role model for all the kids! Worked for me as well ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Dopple Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.10.12 12:32:00 - [49] Talking too him would be best. Bring up how it is a good way to blow off some steam/stress. Let him know that if your grades suffer you will take it off. Make a post in the gathering's thread and look for players at your school or area around the school. Whatever reason he has find a way to counter that reason. Good luck. Stick this in your ears.
Janus Veyron Veyron Group	Posted - 2007.10.12 12:34:00 - [50] god, my friend used to have to hide his install of Ultima Online because he father was a scout master. He had a stupid beard, wore socks with sandals, thought walking for 12 miles way good fun... And the reason he didn't let my friend play UO was because it 'Was killing his social skills'. So we killed him and quartered the corpse and tossed it down a man hole.
Sylvia Lafayette	Posted - 2007.10.12 13:48:00 - [51] think I'll show my dad this post just for kicks... I do need to focus on school.
vinnymcg eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.10.12 14:14:00 - [52] I will tell you how to do it but TBH it probably will not because the way eve is now set up and as i am sure you know parents know everything YOU WILL GET CAUGHT!. Install eve, open the C:/ drive and make a new folder, rename this folder and instead of giving the folder a name press and hold alt and press 2,2,5 this will give it inviable txt now right click the folder go the the customize tab and select choose icon, scroll across and pick one of the blank spaces. This will now make the folder invisible but still clickable go to C:/program files/ and copy the CCP folder to the invisible folder. Uninstall EVE. now if you want to play go to your invisible folder and a double click the eve icon. But seriously talk to your dad and do not get too raped up in eve its a great game but thats all it is A GAME running after girls and getting a job are much more fun. You cannot go into a job interview and answer the question "Have you any leadership experience?" with "Yes I currently run an alliance with 1000 members which holds a large section of 0.0" well unless you apply for a job in CCP but even then you would need to have a very good education to work for them. Quickbar tread
Firebyrd Gallente Nomadic Industries	Posted - 2007.10.12 14:38:00 - [53] I am a parent, and have a son who i just started home schooling, he plays Runescape, and sometimes cleans up my missions, (like when i make supper, or go pick wife up from work), but he knows if he doesnt do or complete the days assignments, in school or cleaning something around the house, he doesnt get to play on the computer that day, or the playstation..... You will have to prove that playing isnt going to interfere with your school grades.. My son also knows that if he goes behind my back he loses all game privledges for 2 weeks... my son is 11... If he continues to do well, like he is, i may get him his own Eve account... but i told him he has to earn the privledge to play ----------------------------------------------- Life is a Lemon, and i want my money back
Some Caldari Caldari Sanguine Raiders	Posted - 2007.10.12 14:54:00 - [54] Originally by: Firebyrd he plays Runescape, You sick person, no one should have to endure that! ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 14:56:00 - [55] Originally by: Haerana do what i did. slack off, get your own pc and wait for your parents to give up all hope that you'll do any work. Im a role model for all the kids! this wins the thread!
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 14:58:00 - [56] Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette think I'll show my dad this post just for kicks... I do need to focus on school. Good plan. You should also get him to try the game out, who knows what could happen :D -=^=-
Mrmuttley Guns 'N' Hoses	Posted - 2007.10.12 15:23:00 - [57] If your going down the "talk to the parents route" don't forget to add in to the conversation that Eve is neither illegal or ****ographic. In defense of allowing kids to play PC games I personally was not allowed to play games on computers when I was a kid (20+ years ago) and i blame this attitude partially for my dropping out of university as i went out and brought a PC just as the original Command and Conquer came out. The late nights drinking and the working full time to pay for the partying had absolutely nothing to do with screwing up my grades. .
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.12 16:44:00 - [58] Not that I'm endorsing hiding EVE playing habits from your parents or anything - and don't assume they're not going to know, most parents have 'been there, done that'. That aside: EVE doesn't require being installed to work. You can copy the installation directory to a USB key, or some other removable storage - hell, even a CD, although you'll have fun patch day. Alternatively, just install it somewhere 'unusual' on the hard disk, change it to 'hidden' directory attribute. When you install it, it puts a key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall Delete that, and you'll have no entry in 'add/remove programs' Or just copy the directory somewhere else, and then uninstall it again. It also puts entries in 'My Documents' with chatlogs and settings and stuff. You'll have to make sure you tidy this up, or use that switch to the client that leaves stuff in the 'EVE' directory. However, if your parents are saying 'nooo' then they're not just doing it to be gits. Chances are they think you're doing it too much, and your real life is suffering. IF this is not the case, then by all means talk to them. Point out the virtues of playing EVE, such as social interaction, economic theory, project management, tactical thinking. shrug compromise > subterfuge. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP
Vyyrus An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.10.12 16:56:00 - [59] Edited by: Vyyrus on 12/10/2007 16:58:38 Is your mom hot I could persuade her.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:14:00 - [60] Come up with a plan with your old man to do your work and homework or whatever and then get to play Eve. Explain why it's better for you to play that vegetate in front of the TV, as long as it doesn't cut into your schoolwork too much. Yeah it sucks not to play a game, but otherwise when Eve Online is long, long gone, you'll look back and wonder why you don't have a good job all because of some game. I'm glad I left school before the days of online gaming, otherwise I could definitely see myself in your situation.

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:17:00 - [61] I would recommend following the advice of those who responded in the thread with having "the talk" with your parents. You may be able to keep it hidden for a while, but even on a flash drive, there will be hints of you playing EVE rather than keeping up with school. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:20:00 - [62] ransom your dad ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:45:00 - [63] Originally by: Jack Target Edited by: Jack Target on 12/10/2007 06:13:20 BTW, computer game 'addiction' is not really (medically speaking) an addiction - it's a form of 'escapism'. Therefore, once you improve the real life situation you are trying to escape from, the 'addiction' should go, and sensible moderation will come back. GREAT! Thanks for this great advice. Now all i have to do is win the lottery and get a tasty bird and i can stop playing eve. SKUNK Originally by: Jeximo I also like how your cat only managed to hit the enter button when he/she jumped on your keyboard.
Transcendant One	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:48:00 - [64] Originally by: Malachon Draco I'd go a different route. 1. Find your daddy's ** collection on the computer. Its there, you just gotta find it. 2. Confront him with it and blackmail him into letting you play Eve. 3. If it was a especially big ** collection, you could probably squeeze some extra weekly allowance out of it as well. This.
Quonok Regison Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:57:00 - [65] Don't do the whole "the talk" thing, doesn't work. Secrecy is the best way =) No teenage kid is 100% straight with the parents thats fact, anyone who thinks differently is kidding themselves.
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:59:00 - [66] Originally by: Quonok Regison Don't do the whole "the talk" thing, doesn't work. Secrecy is the best way =) No teenage kid is 100% straight with the parents thats fact, anyone who thinks differently is kidding themselves. Eh, "the talk" might just improve your relationship with your parents, which is probably more important (but less fun) than Eve. On the other hand your parents might just be terrible and you may as well count down the time until you can move out... Originally by: RedFall How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
annoing Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:04:00 - [67] Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh, Eve is supposed to be one of those ADULT games, devoid of kiddies, that parents and over 18's can sit back, relax and avoid the bullsh*t 'noob' remarks so many of you dumb kids from WoW (or more likely Runescape) seem to favour. If I was your dad i'd break ya fingers to stop you using the keyboard
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:07:00 - [68] I miss the days of the "Boss Key" Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:10:00 - [69] Have you considered podding your parents and taking over the neighborhood ?

CCP Prism X	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:11:00 - [70] I wouldn't be posting here if not for my severe computer game addiction while supporting myself through university. That and I'm fatally intelligent... and modest to boot! ~ Prism X EvE 1337 Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006.

An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:14:00 - [71] Originally by: CCP Prism X I wouldn't be posting here if not for my severe computer game addiction while supporting myself through university. That and I'm fatally intelligent... and modest to boot! Is paid full-time forum warrior a viable profession to pay your way through post-secondary education these days? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

CCP Prism X	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:20:00 - [72] Not really, but that and Tekken/SoulCalibur pwnage was around 2/3ds of my university education nonetheless. My 'supporting myself' came from working as an Internet Helpdesk monkey, hence you see me responding a lot to whine over our CS being balls. ~ Prism X EvE 1337 Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006.

Magunus The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:21:00 - [73] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: CCP Prism X I wouldn't be posting here if not for my severe computer game addiction while supporting myself through university. That and I'm fatally intelligent... and modest to boot! Is paid full-time forum warrior a viable profession to pay your way through post-secondary education these days? Ask Wrangler or Kieron. --- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe'
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:27:00 - [74] Originally by: CCP Prism X My 'supporting myself' came from working as an Internet Helpdesk monkey, hence you see me responding a lot to whine over our CS being balls. I think customer service work totally destroyed the ability for me to feel compassion. But, after the 500th call about someone's retractable coffee holder being broken, I'd probably die. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

CCP Prism X	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:32:00 - [75] I never had any 'cupholder' incidents. But I kid you not, I've spent the better part of an hour trying to understand: 1) Why some old lady was calling me about her computer being locked up, me being on the internet helpdesk (I've had to help people learn how to use copy/paste in word >.<). 2) Why restarting her computer over and over again resulted in the exact same lock-up state. 3) After 30 minutes: Figure out how to explain to some ancient dinosaur the difference between a monitor and a computer. Resolution: I suggested that she would carefully unplug and replug EVERY cable in her office, hoping that she'd eventually power down the computer. Didn't hear from her again, sincerely hope that she called again and one of my co-worker had to share my misery. And yes, there's not a shred of empathy left in me. Might explain my modus operandi on these forums, no? ~ Prism X EvE 1337 Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006.

An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:39:00 - [76] Originally by: CCP Prism X I never had any 'cupholder' incidents. But I kid you not, I've spent the better part of an hour trying to understand: Crazy lady stuff That reminds me of my grandfather. He wasn't that bad, and he could use a computer, but sometimes he'd say the most ridiculous things about it. And I finally found the link to the skit Internet Helpdesk. Big black nothing? Okay! Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

CCP Prism X	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:43:00 - [77] Yeah, I had to listen to that before I got to pick up any calls. Basic IHD preparation. ~ Prism X EvE 1337 Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006.

An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:46:00 - [78] I have all their skits somewhere, I wish I could find them. BUt listening to it now, it is even funnier since it is starting to show how old it is. Except the iMac joke, that never gets old. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

CCP Prism X	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:48:00 - [79] Sad reality is... nothing there is an exaggeration. Not one thing. ~ Prism X EvE 1337 Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006.

An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:52:00 - [80] I totally believe it. Even though I think it is sadder when someone in their mid-20s can't work a computer, versus someone 50+, because at least the latter has a good excuse. This whole forum is stopping me from driving to Canada right about now, I need to go pry myself away from this. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

CCP Prism X	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:55:00 - [81] I release you then, godspeed. ~ Prism X EvE 1337 Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006.

An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:56:00 - [82] If I don't come back, the French Canadians got me. If I do come back, everyone will have to suffer with Polaroids. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:07:00 - [83] Originally by: An Anarchyyt This whole forum is stopping me from driving to Canada right about now, I need to go pry myself away from this. I hope you don't live in London. You'll get wet.
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:12:00 - [84] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or As a parent, I would recommend talking to your dad about it. Address his concerns which are no doubt making sure your homework gets done and so on before you sign on to EvE. Of course, you can go behind his back, get caught, get punished then whine about it and be immature, but why not man up and try to act like an adult? If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. Responsibility is a hell of a thing. Develop it. Not all parents are like you though. See Tom Cruise, he won't let his kids play video games because they're "evil". You're not in a position to judge this kid unless you know the circumstances behind his desire to play Eve in secret. I know as a parent some of us may be quick to take the parent's side in all this, but fact is there are a lot of parents out there who aren't cut out for the job. That said, I'd recommend installing it on a thumbdrive. In fact I think Eve can run without it being in the registry... can't say for certain though.
Elles D Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:35:00 - [85] Kill your parents. Nuff said.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.12 20:09:00 - [86] Jenny Spitfire says negotiate with your parents. Tell them that you will spend one hour playing for every two hours you spend on school work after school hours. Remember, cool kids get A+ in school. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Shalia Ripper Caldari High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 20:22:00 - [87] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Jenny Spitfire says negotiate with your parents. Tell them that you will spend one hour playing for every two hours you spend on school work after school hours. Remember, cool kids get A+ in school. Please be on the other side of the discussion. When you agree with me it makes me feel dirty.
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.10.12 20:25:00 - [88] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Jenny Spitfire says negotiate with your parents. Tell them that you will spend one hour playing for every two hours you spend on school work after school hours. Remember, cool kids get A+ in school. manditory new jenny sux old jenny roxor --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING
Sonoda Miko Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.10.12 20:39:00 - [89] I have spent the majority of my secondary school education being "addicted" to online games. Its a strange type of addiction because if i was genuinely bored of a game i could stop playing it but i have pretty much always had to be playing one internet game at any time(Planetarion->Infantry->Counterstrike->EVE->WOW->Counterstrike->EVE). Ive just gone to uni, and even though i did alright in my A-Levels i know that i could have done much better if i had worked harder. I think though that this wasnt to do with my addiction to computer games but rather the fact that i am inherently lazy and anything that i really hate doing, aka working for exams, i simply wouldnt do at any costs. During my exam periods i wouldnt play eve, but i would find myself doing anything to avoid work, watching TV, doing some exercise or even doing nothing as long as i wasnt working. Im not saying its the same for other people in this situation but it might have something to do with it. I would always tell my parents that i wasnt addicted, but they still thought so anyway and it got to the point where we would have massive arguements about it. Since ive been at Uni i have pretty much only logged on to change skills and its been roughly a month now. As someone who never did any schoolwork as a result of online games i would recommend not playing them at all. If you really want to play them and you cant quit talk to your dad and ask if you can play for an hour a day or something. Or this is quite a good idea say to your parents for every hour of work i do can i play for an hour on the computer, gives incentive to do the thing you hate.
Scrammer	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:06:00 - [90] I'm assuming the OP is trying to hide online gaming from his/her parents because of poor schoolwork and/or study habits. That said... I used to skip college classes just so I could stay up late and play games then go to bed at 7am and sleep until 3 or 4 in the afternoon. To the OP: I know you're a bit young now and playing games all the time and skipping schoolwork seems like it's fun, and easy too because you get to be lazy. You probably think, why do my homework now when I can get a couple hours of EVE in and do it later...right? Let me tell you...two things eventually happen. The first happens immediately. You are already developing horrible study habits. Laziness will KILL your education...guaranteed. You probably don't care now, but you will later when your parents are losing the thousands they paid to send you to college and you're blowing it playing games all day and all night. The second thing probably won't happen for a while. But eventually, you'll start to get sick of doing nothing but playing one game after another to pass the time. Suddenly you want to start doing structured activities in your life, and start being responsible and going to bed on time and getting to work on time. But by then, you've already dropped out of high school or college to work full time to support yourself, and once you've left school it's HARD to get back to it. Hopefully though, you'll realize that your education is the most important thing you can focus on right now before you start to get sucked in to the "lazy" cycle.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:20:00 - [91] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 12/10/2007 21:24:36 Crikey Scrammer. You do have some good points about killing education and the future of a player. I honestly think not only players need to be responsible for their gaming addiction or habit but CCP needs to provide and promote healthy gaming experience to protect players from themselves. Parents could set game limit per day in the account in guardian/parent mode. CCP could send hourly message to the chat windows in the client that says "You have played for X hour." Or code something that the character will temporary lose skill efficiency at 5% after every hour of gaming until the player rests for an hour or two. Healthy gaming experience is a big thing in MMOs. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Transcendant One	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:32:00 - [92] Caffeine, sugar, and spare time are all you need for a healthy mmo experience.
Ter Fordal	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:59:00 - [93] I wish I lived with my parents, they might drag me off this b****dy computer game and force me to get a real life.
Adaris D-L	Posted - 2007.10.12 22:01:00 - [94] Your not playing Eve, your doing 'research' online... sheesh *******
xOm3gAx Caldari Stain of Mind	Posted - 2007.10.12 22:23:00 - [95] copy / paste somewhere uninstall make the folder hidden and run when wanted =P PS - back up the stuff in my documents so u can put that back as hidden as well. ----------- "Mercinaries never die, we just go to hell to regroup." -xOm3gAx '99
vache THE IRIS	Posted - 2007.10.12 22:40:00 - [96] Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p 1. Install EVE 2. Copy the CCP folder on your hard drive after installation 3. Remove the EVE-Online installation via the windows add/remove software 4. Paste the CCP folder to where ever you want to hide it As far as your system knows, eve is no longer installed. But this still works just fine.
cioran wyborowa	Posted - 2007.10.12 23:28:00 - [97] Originally by: Tauscha Vald'or If my son snuck behind my back without even trying to be reasonable about it first, he wouldn't touch a PC for a while. If he "needed" to for school it would be only under direct supervision. LOL if my dad ever tried to do that when i was a teen id punch him or poison his food! Your training your kids to be sheep. You should never respect an authority figure who tells you to do something that you believe is wrong. I would get a program like "encrypted magic folders" which is very very stealthy. Most adults are petty control freaks, myself included.
Amantus Gallente Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2007.10.12 23:35:00 - [98] Originally by: An Anarchyyt I miss the days of the "Boss Key" EVE Launcher has boss key functionality built into it. It's quite handy Anyway, as others have said, try and talk to your dad about it. Chances are he'll have more respect for you and allow you to play EVE (in moderation) knowing that you're being up front an honest with him. ------------
cioran wyborowa	Posted - 2007.10.12 23:39:00 - [99] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I honestly think not only players need to be responsible for their gaming addiction or habit but CCP needs to provide and promote healthy gaming experience to protect players from themselves. Thank you no. People can get some personal responsibility and the ones who cant handle things themselves will be weeded out of the species. Its not anyones responsibility to save you from yourself. Live free or die.
Reacz Caldari Empirius Enigmus Navy Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.13 00:48:00 - [100] Get your education mate, seriously. You can pwn people on EVE aferwards. Oh yeah and you can have more fun after education (Uni is great, but a serious drag in the money department), cos well you'll have lots of money and can goto expensive drug parties with hot blondes. xD Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected])
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.13 01:19:00 - [101] Originally by: CCP Prism X Sad reality is... nothing there is an exaggeration. Not one thing. I used to think the 'tech humour' was all people joking about 'user stupids'. Then I got a job in IT. Oh hell. People really _are_ that thick. And they have drivers licenses. My personal favourite has to be the guy who brought a laptop in with tyre marks on it. And complaint it 'wasn't working'. When asked 'what happened' his response was 'nothing, it just stoppped'. Our helldesk tech looked knowingly, and said 'ah yeah, might be the pirelli virus. It's been doing the rounds lately'. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP
Doppler Shift Red 42 Infinite Innovation	Posted - 2007.10.13 01:35:00 - [102] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: CCP Prism X Sad reality is... nothing there is an exaggeration. Not one thing. I used to think the 'tech humour' was all people joking about 'user stupids'. Then I got a job in IT. Oh hell. People really _are_ that thick. And they have drivers licenses. My personal favourite has to be the guy who brought a laptop in with tyre marks on it. And complaint it 'wasn't working'. When asked 'what happened' his response was 'nothing, it just stoppped'. Our helldesk tech looked knowingly, and said 'ah yeah, might be the pirelli virus. It's been doing the rounds lately'. I find you can isolate most problems to a bad KTCI (keyboard-to-chair interface). --- This is what's left of my signatu...[siggienerf][/siggienerf]
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.13 02:00:00 - [103] questions needs an answer : Quote: Add and Remove Hide selective programs/applications listed in Add or Remove: Go to Start/Run/Regedit and navigate to this key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall Local the program in question in the left pane. In the right pane, right click DisplayName and select rename: Add Quiet so it will read: QuietDisplayName. No reboot or refresh needed. Open Add or Remove - the listing is now gone. To revert, rename back to DisplayName. i dont judge nor endorse this product. typed it in google. if it works, have le fun. rest is your business :p ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.10.13 04:25:00 - [104] Edited by: franny on 13/10/2007 04:25:09 Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama I'm thinking of adopting kids so that I can have my own army of isk farmers... i'll sell you some of mine, cheap Originally by: Quonok Regison Don't do the whole "the talk" thing, doesn't work. Secrecy is the best way =) No teenage kid is 100% straight with the parents thats fact, anyone who thinks differently is kidding themselves. (sorry dislike yellow text) your right, thats why I spy on my kids I used to have a tracking program on their pc, that would send me a list of all the sites they went to and what not thats how I knew they were going on sites even after they were told not to but unfortunately for them, my router > their internet skills PKKP recruitment
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.10.13 04:37:00 - [105] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: CCP Prism X Sad reality is... nothing there is an exaggeration. Not one thing. I used to think the 'tech humour' was all people joking about 'user stupids'. Then I got a job in IT. yep, I work in operations I spent one day arguing with a user that couldn't log onto a mainframe system because it was down him> (with an India accent) I can't log on to TSOx me> it's down for a like 16hr change him> I can't log on me> yes, it's down for a change him> I can't log on he kept calling back when I would hang up, and wouldn't take no for an answer eventually I got one of my co-worker to take over, and they convinced him he was having a local access issue at his site and to call his local network admin PKKP recruitment
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:45:00 - [106] For those talking about missing lectures from gaming, I thought I should pass this on. When I was an undergraduate I had a first year economics lecturer, specifically this man who taught us the most useful and suprisingly non-obvious thing for getting a degree. Get to your lectures. Seriously. You may have lost track of time and been drinking until 05:30 with a lecture at 9:00, you may be tired, hung over, high, (I think he added "I usually was" in there somewhere...) but none of this does as much damage to your chances of getting a good degree as letting them convince you not to turn up. So long as you're not actually sick in the lecture theatre just slump in the back. When you come to look at your coursework you'll remember things you didn't think you remembered and it will at least help you look up the right answer. I followed his advice, drank too much, gamed too much, got to my lectures and am currently working on a government project with the potential of a doctorate at the end of it. Of course you shouldn't do any of these things but if you weaken and do, don't compound your error by skipping lectures. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions
Central Scrutinizer RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:16:00 - [107] Sue him for violating your freedom of assembly.
xaja	Posted - 2007.10.21 20:44:00 - [108] Originally by: Fabrice Enchante Point out the educational aspects of Eve. You can learn stuff from the game; point out that article by the economist dude CCP hired. that's probably your best bet... if your parents don't "get it", explain the benefit in terms they can understand: MONEY and learning how to make it.... kiss up to the carebear merchant souls... Schools weren't invented by kind people who wanted to further humanity or had any interest in making you smarter... Schools were invented at the onset of the industrial age, cause they needed worker bees who'd know how to crank out product after product and show up on time... Its a good idea to do well in school, but not for the reasons people had in mind. "in any social environment, the person with the most flexible behavior will eventually come to rule that environment." I forgot who said it, but it pretty much works that way. So, surprise them... your only responsibility is not to anyone else's rules, not even your parents, your churches or your governments... it is to your own integrity. If hiding software might compromise your integrity, its up to you to find out or predict. If you leave your integrity in a compromised state for long, it will gnaw on you like some kind of mental acid... you'll feel weak, lack energy, till you collapse into the same pathetic way way too many people live in modern society. Hell, people play eve excessively cause the real world is getting on their nerves and they can't deal with it. ... _____________________________________ I'm Paper; Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Loike Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.10.21 21:14:00 - [109] Say to him... "You let me play it and we can be on trustworthy grounds... or... I go behind your back and play it anyway?:)"
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.21 21:16:00 - [110] Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette anyone know how to hide eve once i install it so my dad cant find it in the add/remove programs and the registry and any other way someone with decent computer knowledge can easily find it, but still be able to unpack it to play and pack it up again without too much hassle... id appreciate it so I can keep my eve addiction going while going to school :p The less immature schoolkids there are in EvE, the better EvE is == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Mr Friendly That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.10.21 21:27:00 - [111] Originally by: Rakeris Yeah talking to him is your best bet. Second would be getting your own PC, you can build a good one pretty cheap now days. But if you really want to go behind his back a flashdrive is your best bet. Be sure to change the default folder for where the games saves local data from the My Documents folder though. As that would be a bit of a give away. On the parent note, I wouldn't allow my kid to have any more or less personal control over his computer use simply because he had his own computer than if he was using mine. To the op, discuss it with your parents. Going behind their back will just lose you all computer access more than likely. hmm, would you still need the dx9_d3d.dll (or whatever it's called)in the eve folder on the flash drive since Eve itself would not be registered in Windows? __________________________________________________ FOLD. The Ultimate PVP. It really is Us vs. Them. clicky
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.21 21:31:00 - [112] And yes! I am back from Canada! Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Nate D New Atlantis Tek Corporation The Nexus Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.21 21:39:00 - [113] Ah dude... I'd just hide the files by going into Start->Run->CMD And then going typing in "attrib FILENAME +h" Then the files are hidden and you don't really have to worry about it... then whenever you want to play you can unhide them by either choosing the option to show hidden files in windows explorer or changing the +h command into a -h. Viva La Resistance! -Nate
Elmer Phud Black Eclipse Corp	Posted - 2007.10.21 22:22:00 - [114] Keep playing. Someone needs to make my fries.
LancerSix Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.10.21 22:22:00 - [115] We need an EVE Rootkit methinks.

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