This should probably be dictated by the localization settings you choose, and European should be distinct from American in this regard.

Where can I select localization? I only see "Language" in settings and I have English.

Would just like to point out here that grammatically, using a comma to separate numbers from percentages of numbers is wrong.

For example:

-ú150.50 is one hundred and fifty pounds, and fifty pence. The 'period' sign here signifies that the numbers following it are a percentage of the whole numbers - -ú0.50 being half of -ú1!

Using a comma in the same example gives you a totally different number.

European and American systems would imply that the above number is in fact -ú15050 - fifteen thousand and fifty pounds - and even then, the comma should be between the first 5 and 0, as such; -ú15,050 -- this is how multiples of thousands are separated.

Sorry to be all Grammar **** on you, but to someone who was taught to do things correctly, this bastardisation of the numbering system grates bigtime.

In English, the comma is used as a thousands separator (and the period as a decimal separator), to make large numbers easier to read. So write the size of Alaska as 571,951 square miles instead of 571951 square miles. In Continental Europe the opposite is true, periods are used to separate large numbers and the comma is used for decimals. Finally, the International Systems of Units (SI) recommends that a space should be used to separate groups of three digits, and both the comma and the period should be used only to denote decimals, like $13 200,50 (the comma part is a messGǪ I know).

Sorry to dissapoint you, but what you say is only true for America and England. In most of Europe they use the comma to seperate between them.

Source

Stealth indication of decline in American subscribers.

Sorry to dissapoint you, but what you say is only true for America and England. In most of Europe they use the comma to seperate between them.

Source

Stealth indication of decline in American subscribers.

Best. Change. Ever.
Hated to hoover over from my numpad to the keyboard just to put in the friggin dot.

My grammatical point still stands. Just because people do something doesn't mean it's in any way, shape, or form, correct. If a period is used to separate sentences in text, and a comma is used to allow a pause in a sentence, then mathematically these two symbols should in any right-thinking world be used in the exact same context.

The excerpt from dailywritingtips.com is simply aping what people 'do'. Whilst a vast majority of people may be doing it this way, it implies that their math is all horribly wrong (economic crises anyone?). Of course, language is a fluid and beautiful thing - new ways and old ways of speaking and using words occur every day, but - getting back to the topic here - grammatically, the way the likes of the Icelanders use commas and periods in displaying numbers is undeniably and horribly backwards, and just because people got taught wrong doesn't mean it should stay that way :P

"grammatik macht frei", etc

My grammatical point still stands. Just because people do something doesn't mean it's in any way, shape, or form, correct. If a period is used to separate sentences in text, and a comma is used to allow a pause in a sentence, then mathematically these two symbols should in any right-thinking world be used in the exact same context.

The excerpt from dailywritingtips.com is simply aping what people 'do'. Whilst a vast majority of people may be doing it this way, it implies that their math is all horribly wrong (economic crises anyone?). Of course, language is a fluid and beautiful thing - new ways and old ways of speaking and using words occur every day, but - getting back to the topic here - grammatically, the way the likes of the Icelanders use commas and periods in displaying numbers is undeniably and horribly backwards, and just because people got taught wrong doesn't mean it should stay that way :P

"grammatik macht frei", etc

Best. Change. Ever.
Hated to hoover over from my numpad to the keyboard just to put in the friggin dot.

Realy?
Awesome, been hoping for that to change ever since I started playing

I get yelled at when I do 25 Janurary 2012. I dont know why :(

ir'a based on your regional settings... so for example, for the Americans(or anyone using "us" settings) "." is the decimal symbol while it's "," for Icelandic.


I'm glad you like it... should I maybe not tell you that you could always do that by swapping 2 values in the prefs file... yeah, I think I won't

That opens up another good point.

MM/DD/YY
January 25 2012

Woah. Uh oh. The numbers are next to each other. Not good.

Wondering if I should report a DEV for EULA violation by discussing changing game files? (just kidding)

All software should be reading the users' "Region and Language" settings

Would just like to point out here that grammatically, using a comma to separate numbers from percentages of numbers is wrong.

For example:

-ú150.50 is one hundred and fifty pounds, and fifty pence. The 'period' sign here signifies that the numbers following it are a percentage of the whole numbers - -ú0.50 being half of -ú1!

Using a comma in the same example gives you a totally different number.

European and American systems would imply that the above number is in fact -ú15050 - fifteen thousand and fifty pounds - and even then, the comma should be between the first 5 and 0, as such; -ú15,050 -- this is how multiples of thousands are separated.

Sorry to be all Grammar **** on you, but to someone who was taught to do things correctly, this bastardisation of the numbering system grates bigtime.

Oh look, another thread that devolved into an anti-American rant.

Why don't you invade another Middle-Eastern country about it

Oh look, another thread that devolved into an anti-American rant.

ir'a based on your regional settings... so for example, for the Americans(or anyone using "us" settings) "." is the decimal symbol while it's "," for Icelandic.


I'm glad you like it... should I maybe not tell you that you could always do that by swapping 2 values in the prefs file... yeah, I think I won't

I just want "dots" come back to my life.

well i don't give a damn about what is better

all i want is the , or . or whatever you use is the button on the numpad

at this time it is not

which i could live with if i wasn't grown used to it for several years already

I get yelled at when I do 25 Janurary 2012. I dont know why :(

European and American systems would imply that the above number is in fact -ú15050 - fifteen thousand and fifty pounds - and even then, the comma should be between the first 5 and 0, as such; -ú15,050 -- this is how multiples of thousands are separated.

sorry, but this is fail all around

, is punctuation
. is a DECIMAL POINT

one is for writing one is for mathematics

the only time a comma should be in a decimal number is when you are separating thousands, millions, billions and trillions

Really for the originators of the English language the Brits really blew it with mathematical notation

1,999,999.00

that is the most logical way of clearly defining a decimal number

FFS

it has nothign to with rigth and wrong this is almost liek changing wich side of the road you drive on without warning

and make all the amrkings on the road the same color as the road

this is what it basicly coems down to i can't see the blinking and i suddenly am forced to change how i enter an order after several years

Um, but now, there is a tiny little problem, when I copy a value out of a market order (modify order, select and copy the value), I cant paste it back, one is "."DOT one is ","NOT

going to be fixed, soon? ^^

[My grammatical point still stands.

Just because people do something doesn't mean it's in any way, shape, or form, correct.

On a side note, when i learned to write decimals, I was teached to use this: '

So I would write 1.050'45.

Then i just began writing wth a keyboard and moved the comma below.

Oh, and I always have felt very weird how anglo-saxons deem the month to be all that relevant. "Which day is now"? "January..." "HUH?" "...twenty-sixth".

Kinda lame and grammatically nonsensical:

"On January, on the twenty-sixth day, of year 2012, strange things happened..."

vs

"On the twenty-sixth day of January of year 2012, strange things happened..."

Romans 1*, anglo-saxons 0.


*Yes, i am aware that Romans had a bloody complicated calendar, but it moved from the smaller unit to the larger one in the same elegant progression as all civilized nations do today: "on the 3rd idus of march, et cetera"

Not defending it (I think MM/DD/YY is a stupid convention), Months are massively important in an agrarian society. They described the change in the seasons, by far the most important part of the life of a farmer. The numeric date was the next most relevant, as it allowed the counting of days, and the year was the least important; Who the **** cares that it's 1523 years after some poor sap died?

edit: By the way, I apologize on behalf of my countrymen, assuming those who seem to be aren't just terrible trolls. period as decimal point and comma as magnitudal delimiter looks nicer to me, but only because I'm used to it. I can think of a lot of silly arguments for both sides, but the important thing is that we understand each other, and I think we generally are able to :)

This still isn't fixed. WTF.


I'm setting a bug report everyday until this is fixed.

Please don't
We already have a defect on it (and ideas how to fix it), and it's just going to waste everyone's time if you keep filing bugrepoorts on it

Just wondering, why are you guys looking at the poor end of your wallet? Even better question, why are you worried about fractions of isk?

*shrugs*

ir'a based on your regional settings... so for example, for the Americans(or anyone using "us" settings) "." is the decimal symbol while it's "," for Icelandic.

I'm glad you like it... should I maybe not tell you that you could always do that by swapping 2 values in the prefs file... yeah, I think I won't

I feel like having another little rant.

DD/MM/YY is correct.

MM/DD/YY is not correct.

Days go into months, and months go into years. DD/MM/YY is a logical progression of size.

MM/DD/YY, however, is just an eyesore and logical failure.

I can respect YY/MM/DD, but one must consider that when it comes to dates we often care about the day and month before anything else.

No, it doesn't, because it's not a question of grammar. It's a question of local mathematical notation and the effects it has on machine input (and, as others have shown, it's much the same as the difference between date formats).

I feel like having another little rant.

DD/MM/YY is correct.

MM/DD/YY is not correct.

Days go into months, and months go into years. DD/MM/YY is a logical progression of size.

MM/DD/YY, however, is just an eyesore and logical failure.

I can respect YY/MM/DD, but one must consider that when it comes to dates we often care about the day and month before anything else.

Any chance to force the game NOT TO USE the regional settings?
I tried to force it by editing the prefs.ini, however that did not helped at all.

It is definitely a question of grammar. Entire sections of the Chicago Manual of Style, Gregg's Reference Manual, etc. deal specifically with numbers and the many ways in which they are used in both numeric and written form.

Math is a language and it definitely has a grammar. Commas, periods, and other symbols serve that same function--abbreviated language.

Does China use ',' or '.'?


edit: Crap. They use "S¦¥" for the decimal point.

WRONG WRONG WRONG
A period is correct. Trust me, Australia knows its stuff.

Besides, in scientific notation I believe that even Europeans used a period. Well, Wikipedia mentions nothing about commas. Probably because no one cares.
3.4 * 10^32

'Grammatically' it also makes sense, as a period is used to separate two different 'ideas', if you will, while a comma is a continuation of the same thing.

If read like a sentence:

$12,726.21
Twelve thousand, seven hundred and twenty-six dollars. *STOP* and twenty-one cents.

$12.726,21
Twelve. *STOP* Seven hundred and twenty-six and twenty-one. (WTF?)

Which continent is currently experiencing a financial crisis for some of its countries?
Europe.

What do they use as a decimal mark when considering large sums of money?
A comma.


Oh dear.
It looks like commas are incorrect.

My grammatical point still stands. Just because people do something doesn't mean it's in any way, shape, or form, correct. If a period is used to separate sentences in text, and a comma is used to allow a pause in a sentence, then mathematically these two symbols should in any right-thinking world be used in the exact same context.

The excerpt from dailywritingtips.com is simply aping what people 'do'. Whilst a vast majority of people may be doing it this way, it implies that their math is all horribly wrong (economic crises anyone?). Of course, language is a fluid and beautiful thing - new ways and old ways of speaking and using words occur every day, but - getting back to the topic here - grammatically, the way the likes of the Icelanders use commas and periods in displaying numbers is undeniably and horribly backwards, and just because people got taught wrong doesn't mean it should stay that way :P

"grammatik macht frei", etc

...change all Full Stops and Commas to the Squiggly line!

10~000~000~00

It's not called the "squiggly" line, it's the wiggly line!

Tilde https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde


But getting back to people, if you want it to change (using windows 7):
Go to your region and language Settings (hit the start key. type region. It'll show up)
Hit additional Settings.
Change the decimal seperator and digit group symbol


As for why it's important to some folks, using Eve Mentat's 'suggest price' feature, it screws up on the paste in.

Oh look, another thread that devolved into an anti-American rant.

I like dots and commas equaly. Peace & Love!



I m assuming you re not from South America. No one from there would make such a claim anyway.


Agreeably it might not occur to a north-american, but it could quite possibly have something to do with the fact that so many things north-american are rant-worthy from a non north-american standpoint.

Oh look, another thread that devolved into an anti-American rant.

Can you blame us? Even the Romans didn't **** up the world nearly as much as Americans are now and the Romans made slavery legal.

Please don't

We already have a defect on it (and ideas how to fix it), and it's just going to waste everyone's time if you keep filing bugrepoorts on it

(i'm assuming you were talking about the numpad decimal not working, not what's the correct way to write numbers and dates like some people are arguing about here .

The numpad decimal should work on your keyboard if it's set to the same language as the regional settings... for example, it doesn't work when I have US-EN keyboard but Icelandic regional settings, but if I switch the keyboard to Icelandic, it works just fine... so you might want to change the keyboard settings until we fix it)

No, sorry, I don't think you can do it as it is now (and I don't think there are any plans to change it).

Personally my favorite is the YY/MM/DD - and the reason is for that:
Take a program which creates a folder every day. After a year or two, you look that folder, and you see a big mess, as the directories are sorted by the first two characters, so you get a list where it's hard to find - select the days which are within a month.
However if you have the folder structure in: YY/MM/DD then the folder list will be a clean list, where you can easily find the days, which are belonging to one month.

What is correct depends on your definition

Here's one standard and here's another convention...

I feel like having another little rant.

DD/MM/YY is correct.

MM/DD/YY is not correct.

Days go into months, and months go into years. DD/MM/YY is a logical progression of size.

MM/DD/YY, however, is just an eyesore and logical failure.

I can respect YY/MM/DD, but one must consider that when it comes to dates we often care about the day and month before anything else.

This has been fixed internally and will be deployed in a future patch.

I have to disagree with you here.

YY-MM-DD is the correct one of course. It follows the logic of the decimal system with the biggest units to the left. It also sorts logically with the early dates first. I believe it is also ISO standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

MM/DD/YY is as logical as gallons, ounces (fluid or not) and the english mile.

Have my babies GÖÑ

Sure thing... how much are you paying?

Now clearly, the only proper and moral way to crack open a boiled egg is from the pointed end.

Now clearly, the only proper and moral way to crack open a boiled egg is from the pointed end.

Sure, if you want to spend all morning getting rid of all the shell pieces ...
I use a knife to shop it in two halves. Done in two seconds.

I wonder how CCP like their eggs xP

If you cut them longitudinally, you're a good man.

If you cut them transversely, I will literally run a locator on you and pod you.