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KOOLLAYDTAC
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Posted - 2007.11.14 08:22:00 -
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Question for those out to get isk farmers. Who cares? I mean seriously. I could see the issue on if they are spamming because that's just annoying as hell and they need to be shot, but selling ingame currency is not a new thing to MMO's. I mean even though I never bought or sold it myself it really doesn't bother me if someone else is. It's not like it is a global impact on anyones gameplay most importantly of all not mine and you ladies don't get paid to be the Eve Police. IMO The devs should deal with it minus the army of ass geniuses trying to play detective. My advice would be to just relax and enjoy the game and not get worked up over what other people are doing. Remember nobody likes that idiot noisy neighbor that spends to much time in everyone elses business and not enough time tending to their own. That's just my take on it though. Have a nice day and hope you all try to relax and enjoy the game some.
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YunFu Yan
Yan Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.14 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: KOOLLAYDTAC It's not like it is a global impact on anyones gameplay most importantly of all not mine...
Not only are you short sighted but also outright wrong!
I suggest you read the latest quarterly economic report on Eve. Especially the passages about the dramatic increase of available currency in game and its possible consequences to New Edens economy.
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Pango Ein
Topps Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.15 06:18:00 -
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"go match" continues to the be ISK Farmer bagman/node however on a reduced scale. All her customers seem to be 2 months old or younger. None of the older ISK farmers seem to log on anymore. I wounder what could have happened to them?
Currently they seem to think being in a corp makes them safer, however they seem to make a new corp every day. It started with "Datae's corp" then they moved to Dhakane then "Ali storehouse" then "ceo me Corp" and finally today they have moved into "As Soon Corp" [AS SO].
I guess I could petition this as an exploit:
"Dear GM, The members(ISK FARMERS) of As Soon Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) are exploiting the corporation creation to avoid a war dec on their original corp Datae's Corp(ISK FARMER CORP). They(ISK FARMERS) have gone from Datae's Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) to Dhakane(ISK FARMER CORP) to Ali storehouse(ISK FARMER CORP) to ceo me Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) to As Soon Corp(ISK FARMER CORP). By the way did I mention they were ISK Farmers, you can look up the contracts for hves or go match and see them all buying drone skillbooks for 200M ISK each."
The response from the GM would probably be "Your petition is denied (check one) (x) The CEO of all the corps are different so it is ok. (x) We are sorry you got scammed but it is not against the rules. (x) There is nothing showing this in our logs. (x) Buying ISK is bad, Mkay?"
Better yet I will ask the two corps that have wardec them to petition them.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Pango Ein "go match" continues to the be ISK Farmer bagman/node however on a reduced scale. All her customers seem to be 2 months old or younger. None of the older ISK farmers seem to log on anymore. I wounder what could have happened to them?
Currently they seem to think being in a corp makes them safer, however they seem to make a new corp every day. It started with "Datae's corp" then they moved to Dhakane then "Ali storehouse" then "ceo me Corp" and finally today they have moved into "As Soon Corp" [AS SO].
I guess I could petition this as an exploit:
"Dear GM, The members(ISK FARMERS) of As Soon Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) are exploiting the corporation creation to avoid a war dec on their original corp Datae's Corp(ISK FARMER CORP). They(ISK FARMERS) have gone from Datae's Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) to Dhakane(ISK FARMER CORP) to Ali storehouse(ISK FARMER CORP) to ceo me Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) to As Soon Corp(ISK FARMER CORP). By the way did I mention they were ISK Farmers, you can look up the contracts for hves or go match and see them all buying drone skillbooks for 200M ISK each."
The response from the GM would probably be "Your petition is denied (check one) (x) The CEO of all the corps are different so it is ok. (x) We are sorry you got scammed but it is not against the rules. (x) There is nothing showing this in our logs. (x) Buying ISK is bad, Mkay?"
Better yet I will ask the two corps that have wardec them to petition them.
I am watching this so keep me posted.
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Cruthensis
Gallente Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: KOOLLAYDTAC I never bought or sold it myself it really doesn't bother me if someone else is.
So glad to have you onside. If everyone had your attitude Eve would be a much better place. Oh wai... DIAF
1. Buy Vexor 2. Fit for Gank 3. Suicide ISK farmer 4. Grind sec 5. see 1. |
Pango Ein
Topps Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.16 05:58:00 -
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All the ISK Farmers have moved into one of two corps, "As Soon Corp" with 48 members and "Sadlys" with 35 members. The contracts have dried up as I assume they are now trading internally in their corps.
I have also found that rolling through series of new corps made with trial accounts/alts seems to be a valid method of avoiding wardecs. Datae's Corp -> Dhakane, Ali storehouse, ceo me Corp -> As Soon Corp and Sadly.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.11.18 15:24:00 -
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do you guys really find it fun hunting macros ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |
Stakhanov
The Good Fellas
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Posted - 2007.11.18 15:54:00 -
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Barely. But hey , it's funnier than ratting / mining or so many other activities thousands of people spend their days on.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr Shadow Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.11.18 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pango Ein All the ISK Farmers have moved into one of two corps, "As Soon Corp" with 48 members and "Sadlys" with 35 members. The contracts have dried up as I assume they are now trading internally in their corps.
I have also found that rolling through series of new corps made with trial accounts/alts seems to be a valid method of avoiding wardecs. Datae's Corp -> Dhakane, Ali storehouse, ceo me Corp -> As Soon Corp and Sadly.
Those corps have the same describtion which indicates that they are corp jumping as you said. A petition should get them a ban.
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Dramaan
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Posted - 2007.11.18 16:17:00 -
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Why shod ccp concentrate on the isk farmers when is the isk buyers who are the problem? I want to find more isk buyer banded the now, they give reason to isk farmer and sellers to live.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr Shadow Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.11.18 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dramaan Why shod ccp concentrate on the isk farmers when is the isk buyers who are the problem? I want to find more isk buyer banded the now, they give reason to isk farmer and sellers to live.
Sellers are easier to find than buyers.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.11.18 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: KOOLLAYDTAC Question for those out to get isk farmers. Who cares? I mean seriously
CCP claim to care.
Here is just one of the many threads filled with people that do care.
I hope this helps you.
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- Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345 |
Jobby
Minmatar UNITED STAR SYNDICATE Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.11.26 02:57:00 -
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o.O Isk laundering 4t ignore
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Freya Runestone
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.26 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
Originally by: Dramaan Why shod ccp concentrate on the isk farmers when is the isk buyers who are the problem? I want to find more isk buyer banded the now, they give reason to isk farmer and sellers to live.
Sellers are easier to find than buyers.
sellers don't care if they get banned. they'll start up a new account the next day. buyers actually care about the time they have invested in skill training and other things like that. If you want to end it you need to target the buyers. Just scare them enough so they won't buy isk anymore for fear of getting banned.
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Kessiaan
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Posted - 2007.11.26 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: Kessiaan on 26/11/2007 05:44:42 I'll add my two ISK worth..
Change corp rules so you can't quit for seven days after you join. Alternately, if you do quit a corp before seven days are up, you remain a valid war target for the remaining time.
As 'real' players tend to stay in corps for a while this shouldn't really affect legit players much, if it all. Farmers that constantly jump corps would be ass-out though, which is the point.
Also NPC corps should be undesirable for people who've been playing for longer than 3 months or so. How this could be done without gimping legit players is a bit beyond me atm though.
A few random ideas though..
1) NPC corp players can't create or accept any contracts worth more than 5m ISK 2) NPC corp players are limited to 10m ISK per day in wallet donations. ----- My in Eve Profile |
Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.26 09:09:00 -
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Well, it's tricky.
Contract for 1 rocket @ 100mil ISK. Yep, it could be an ISK farmer laundering the money or... it could be one of us trying to screw the macroers up and grief them at the same time. I'd happily alleviate them of their ISK if I could figure out the macro trigger :) Wouldn't any of you do the same? :)
I don't think the GM's can do all that much as to realistically build up a picture of the ISK farming rings you'd need raw access to the DB(s) to do SELECT's against, mate it up with IP addresses. And correct me if I'm wrong but whilst the GM's have tools they don't have raw access to the DB in the same way a dev does.
One thing CCP should consider, if they don't already, is to go through the list of anonymous proxies that are on-line and ban them. It's step 1 in nailing the guys, make them reveal their own IP (for banning) rather than bounce off a proxy.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.11.27 01:37:00 -
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The character the eggs has an interesting contract history. New node?
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.11.27 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Freya Runestone
Freelancing is also a style of play that a lot of people like. and currently the only way to do that is the starter corps, if you create your own corp you'll get wardecced very fast, not because you did anything bad. just because people CAN do it, and you CAN'T stop it.
Hasn't been my experience. I think this is an unfounded assumption and the only reason people cling to the NPC corps. Fear of things they imagine might happen.
The game needs to evolve. NPC corps delay that. Is it worth it keeping that safety blanket when it protects these obvious isk sellers as well?
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