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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:44:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Minith Jin
/Unsigned
DPS is more balanced imo, gives me more reason to fly other ships.
QFT.
/NOT signed
The Myrmidon is going to be just fine after the changes, and in-line with the rest of the Tier 2 BCs. I really don't get what's the moaning about, people killed other tier 2 BCs with medium drones and guns nicely even before the changes.
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Rabajaba
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:45:00 -
[32]
/signed
Ship has bonus to drones and don't have drones? O_o
It is not fare.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:48:00 -
[33]
whats the problem?
currently, on sisi, i'm running 3 groups of drones:
2 heavies, 2 medium, 1 light
5 mediums
5 lights
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The fed
Minmatar
Alfa Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:49:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Rabajaba
/signed
Ship has bonus to drones and don't have drones? O_o
It is not fare.
right, remove all turrets but drones must stay
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Escuro
Caldari
Alfa Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:18:00 -
[35]
Originally by: The fed
Originally by: Rabajaba
/signed
Ship has bonus to drones and don't have drones? O_o
It is not fare.
right, remove all turrets but drones must stay
/unsigned
BC shoudn't have BS sized warfare! We don't have a Domi with fighters, do we?
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Sandzibarr
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:37:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Escuro
Originally by: The fed
Originally by: Rabajaba
/signed
Ship has bonus to drones and don't have drones? O_o
It is not fare.
right, remove all turrets but drones must stay
/unsigned
BC shoudn't have BS sized warfare! We don't have a Domi with fighters, do we?
its the final dps that seems to count in ccp's eyes.. so having 1 turret and 125Mb and a 375bay is the same roughly as the current 6 turret 75Mb SiSi itteration. Yet more appealing to all the people who spent time training up their drone skills for a dedicated BC sized drone boat.
CCP has now really only left the ishtar and domi as dedicated drone boats. If you want BC turrets fly a f**king brutix.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:45:00 -
[37]
Not signed, this whinage is what happens when a dev slips up and makes something too powerful from the beginning.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:53:00 -
[38]
/signed
The Myrm's drone bandwidth needs to be 100. With the added change of no more instant drone shield repare in drone bay the total nerf is just too much.
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Goth Dabbar
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:54:00 -
[39]
/signed
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ViperLSS 97
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:58:00 -
[40]
/signed
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Holy Cheater
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:11:00 -
[41]
Wondering if Eos is nerfed too....
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Lucas Avignon
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:13:00 -
[42]
/signed ... this is crap
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Holy Cheater
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:25:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
/Unsinged
Heavy drones are a large weapon supposed to be used by battleships.
I don't see a harbinger capable of fitting 5 Mega Pulse Lasers, do you?
Then, according to your logic, CCP should nerf my astarte cause it have a battleship-sized damage
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Mifter Hogdido
Amarr
The 0ri
Origin Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:30:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Mifter Hogdido on 24/10/2007 14:30:03
/signed - I don't fly Gallente at all but I've never had a problem killing one of these ships before. What is up with CCP trying to nerf all that is good in this game at once... its almost like their trying to drive half their community away. 
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Presidente Gallente
Pirate Hunters Inc
Exa Nation
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:57:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 24/10/2007 15:05:08
/signed again
A Myrm is like other ships just dangerous with great skills.
Especially drone skills but also good tanking and gunnery skills and BC5 at the end.
A Myrm can't usually take out a BS with ease if the BS pilot is a well skilled PvPer.
We all need to understand that skills also make a big difference here.
A nasty Myrm took loads of weeks to skill and without PvP experience it's waste of ISK.
I don't see the real problem here. If a Myrm could take out a BS then the BS pilot was just wrong fitted, skilled or had lack of routine in PvP. I had a test fight against a passive Drake. My 466 DPS drones and Blaster II with Void M could not break his tank but he could take out my Ogre II with 2-3 hits easily. Even get them in and out had not help me. You just need to face the wrong target. There's always a bigger or better fitted fish.
My presidential 2 ISK.
Pres G
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:05:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Holy Cheater
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
/Unsinged
Heavy drones are a large weapon supposed to be used by battleships.
I don't see a harbinger capable of fitting 5 Mega Pulse Lasers, do you?
Then, according to your logic, CCP should nerf my astarte cause it have a battleship-sized damage
Astarte is a T2 battlecruiser specialized in damage dealing, so it hurts and it's what it's supposed to do.
Myrmidon is a T1 battlecruiser, so it should not be able to do BS damage output, it has much more DPS than the other tier 2 BCs.
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Aomis
Caldari
Dakine Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:14:00 -
[47]
/signed
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Syberbolt8
Gallente
soni Corp
Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:15:00 -
[48]
/Signed
The myrmidon should be able to use 5 heavy drones, thats where all the damage for this ship is. Ok so the harby cant use a full set of heavys, well guess what, amarr arnt drone boat flyers, they are heavy tank and lasers, that being an example of course, each race has its own thing, if you want to nerf the myrmidons dmg then remove some highslots, or turret slots at least. Leave the drones alone, If you bothered to train for this ship at all then you trained drones not guns, simple as that. so take out the highslots, if you have to remove anything, but really no change should be made to the myrmidon, it is the only BC that has the ability to lose 75% of its dmg while still being in combat, and with the drone sheild recharge nerf means its now alot easier to lose you drones. You want to kill this ship as in now, then kill its drones, after that it wont matter that you have a full set of t2 blasters, faction ammo, and a good tank, bc the dmg wont be there to kill any bc. Leave the myrmidon alone.
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Start a fire for a man, he stays warm for a day. Catch a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life |
Jagerin
Gallente
AB INITO
VooDoo Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:48:00 -
[49]
/signed
100mbit will be enough
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inza onoa
Gallente
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:02:00 -
[50]
/signed
Over the last 3 big patches, drones were nerfed greatly. From the beginning of my eve life i decided to choose drone as my main weapon, so from beginning till now i have been training drone skills.. guess whats the result? After each great patch i noticed how my drones did less dmg to same corp mates raven and against the same types of rats. Im now almost finished drone interface lvl5, but i guess i will not be amazed with the outcome because in some time probably they do as much dmg as when i had drone interface on lvl2. Sigh. First nerfing the drones, then nerfing the boats that uses drones primarely.
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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:29:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
/Unsinged
Heavy drones are a large weapon supposed to be used by battleships.
I don't see a harbinger capable of fitting 5 Mega Pulse Lasers, do you?
True, but then those 5 lasers cant be destrozed either. if fighting a myrm, fry its drones first. Have 2 or 3 light ships such as destroyers or cruisers on drone duty and blow them up. Then the myrm will be disarmed. If the myrm can continue to disgorge them then that could become a problem of balance but that depends on the implementation of the new drone bandwidth.
Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken! |
Dark Flare
Caldari
Corpus PCG
The State
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:40:00 -
[52]
No, it did need a nerf. Now it'll be balanced.
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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:42:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Dark Flare
No, it did need a nerf. Now it'll be balanced.
With bandwidth you might be right. The only defense to drone ships like the Myrm is to fry his drones. If he can keep spitting out ogre IIs then that is a serious problem.
Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken! |
Subakt
Gallente
Red Assault Brigades
United Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:44:00 -
[54]
Quote:
PLZ Don't nerf
/signed
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Silver Morning
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:47:00 -
[55]
/signed
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Zaphenatpanea
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:48:00 -
[56]
/signed
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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:53:00 -
[57]
Its not much of a surprise that myrmidon pilots are signing this. Start arguing the merits, not silly petitions.
Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken! |
Ferocious FeAr
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:14:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 24/10/2007 17:16:32
Originally by: DasDizzy
/signed
people only whine because they dont know how to fight drone boats
Not really. Killing drones is not brain surgery. Oh and for a t1 ship to be doing more damage then some command ships I see that as a problem.
Not signed.
Good game CCP, well done.
Don't hate me, learn to love me |
RisenPhoenix
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:15:00 -
[59]
not signed
myrm can do waaay more dps than the other tier 2 battlecruisers the changes proposed are perfect
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Riebart Norith
Gallente
Interstellar Business Federation
Tartarus Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:23:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Dark Flare
No, it did need a nerf. Now it'll be balanced.
Ouch, my brain.
1) Compare ranges The Myr has Optimal + Falloff less than Optimal of the med pulses.
2) It's DPS is DESTRUCTIBLE! Blow up Drones = no DPS. Live with it. Learn. Scoop/relaunch doens't fix them anymore, so fit smarties or primary the drones.
3) Blasters = High DPS. Everyone knows this. Why would this even be an issue? Why are you fitting blasters on it anyway? Why not fit on lasers or, better yet, projectiles? It's got no gun bonus, it relies on it's dr-...Oh yeah! No gun bonus! So, let's just completely nerf the rest of it's DPS.
Adapt. Just because you got catered to for your inability to do so doesn't mean we can't be ****ed about it. I'm just glad I got through using it for level 3s while I could.
Personally, reduce it to 4 heavy drones or a 7.5% (as opposed to 10%) per level, and I'd have been happy. 3 heavies is just too broken.
Also, what is this about Heavies = BS weapons? Gee it looks like the Sentinel can use them....But that's a BS class weapon!
Give me 1 heavy back. I never use 5 anyway.
I'll adapt. Change my drone loadout, but I can't be the DPS powerhouse. I'll be relegated to cruiser/BCs and my role as a support ship is now broken.
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/so-very-very-signed
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