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Gaira TwinSuns
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:01:00 -
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Well I wonder what you guys think eve will be in 5-10 years will the same alliances still be around? Will bob be still dominant? will 1000 v 1000 battles be nothing compared to the 5000 v 5000 fights ( PREPARE FOR THE LAGFEST) who knows anyone wanna point out their views?
 Originally by: CCP Morpheus
I think EVE needs more night elfs.
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Scythman
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:06:00 -
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eve will be dead, who want to play a game where the rules change every month, hell most of my 80 man corp dont play no more, only newbies play now out of ignorance. old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
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Abbassidian
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:07:00 -
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v. hard to say with all the new hardware and software comming out every week/month... question could be 'will eve be here in 5 years...' or 'how much of eve as we know it will be here in 5 years'.
however i would hope in 5 years we will have stable servers that can handle massive fleet battles and such, but hats off to ccp they are always working to that end.
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Occara
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Scythman
eve will be dead, who want to play a game where the rules change every month, hell most of my 80 man corp dont play no more, only newbies play now out of ignorance. old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
cry more, carrier pilot.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:08:00 -
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1. PvE will be completely revamped, now there are many different types of missions (combat, escort, recon, stealth, courier, factional warfare). In addition, the AI has been revised so NPCs adapt more dynamically to your actions and do more than orbit and fire.
2. T3 will be introduced, and will used extensively in both PvP and PvE due to it's adaptability (combined with heat)
3. Now propaganda will be better supported both in-game and out-of-game: leaders and spokespeople of alliances will be able to create special "announcement" threads on the forums, conveniently embedding alliance banners, EVE killboard stats, and even videos.
4. Battles of 1000 vs. 1000 will be common and relatively lag-free, and combat is now more spread out due to new area-of-effect weapons and the removal of POSes from system sovereignty. Small gangs will dart behind enemy lines to strike exposed targets scattered in semi-mobile bases throughout solar systems.
5. Ambulation will be alive and kicking - now instead of just designing clothing, players can patent and sell hairstyles and even be hired to design player-constructed structures or interior decorating.
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Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Abbassidian
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Scythman
eve will be dead, who want to play a game where the rules change every month, hell most of my 80 man corp dont play no more, only newbies play now out of ignorance. old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
yea a valid problem :/ but there is good and bad change yes?
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Scythman
eve will be dead, who want to play a game where the rules change every month, hell most of my 80 man corp dont play no more, only newbies play now out of ignorance. old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
Please just go die in a fire. I'll have your carrier.
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Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:11:00 -
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Either itl be like Asherons Call where they reach an end point & start EVE 2. Or itl still be plodding along (assuming the internet still exists as it does) maybe still charging subscriptions or maybe, bowing to pressure from future MMO releases (if there are any that attract subs away in large numbers) being free to play but pay to get extra features/items. Seems to be the way the old MMOs of 5-10years ago have gone.
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Scythman
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:14:00 -
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wow Occara you are 7 months old wow your experience is so impressive. lol, get out of a ibis then you can talk.
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Artaris
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:22:00 -
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in 10 years eve will be an interactive online pron game.
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Arvald
Caldari
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Artaris
in 10 years eve will be an interactive online pron game.
i hope so 
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 24/10/2007 20:30:48
never mind the following rant, Tarminic hit it on the head.
other than the ground combat thing 
Originally by: Scythman
eve will be dead, who want to play a game where the rules change every month, hell most of my 80 man corp dont play no more, only newbies play now out of ignorance. old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
first of all it's the
new players... duh
in 5 years it will be a different game with ground combat and stations and everything else that was in the art book.
and you won't like it.
and the 500,000 player base will because they played it because of the new things.
You sound like an old man, you know the type, not liking the way things are now, while the new generation of kids loves the new stuff?
well I'm sorry that eve won't be the old radio show you allways loved, it will be a black and white TV, and your'll hate it.
But overall, more people will be interested.
I have...1,2,3,4,5... 7 people at school that are interested in player eve if the tutorial was easier and if they could walk. yes just the pure act of knowing you can walk will bring in players. even if they don't do it much. and with the art book, my friend dan thinks fighting as a tank will be cool. nd he might thing about playing it. He loves sci fi, just not the space part as much.
as eve gains a wider apeal (yay girls with ambulation) you will leave, and older layers too.
here is a fun quote by a dev (the medium time that a player spents playing an mmo is 5to6 months.)
have fun with new games, new games will come out, and maybe eve won't be the only choice. finally. some day :P
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:34:00 -
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I'll making your space ships, that's what'll be happening in 5 damn years.
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Mr Bodacious
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:01:00 -
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In 5 years, the last of the carrier pilots will have finally eeked up the courage to quit the game because they stuck to their nerfmobile like idiots.
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Galactic reporter
Galactic reporter independant news corp
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:08:00 -
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1000 vs 1000
Lag Free
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Fun for countless hours
(thats if CCP donbt nerf all the fun stuff in eve and make everyone wquit)
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/welovefighters/ |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:10:00 -
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I'll be here and I will rule the universe 
Originally by: Liz Kali
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:12:00 -
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Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
new player experience sucks
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
We broke 37K Sunday. 
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Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Xaen
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
We broke 37K Sunday.
Probably because of that rule of 2 deal or whatever it's called. So that doesn't mean more individual person's playing even. So that means for now more revenue for ccp, but once those people stop playing it would mean twice as many ingame people will stop playing.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 24/10/2007 21:18:37
Originally by: Xaen
Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
new player experience sucks
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
4 weeks ago??? no it was last week.
they are making video tutorials, better tutorial, factional warfare?? but yeah I'll give you that one :P
new players don't have to train anything to level 5
go away vets, this happens every change, you'r the old dead petal we need to cut you off, let the plant grow bigger (2 years here, I don't care)
1000 bug fixes with exnsion and new graphics engine and "new" UI (OMG finally!)
new features new players care about
People know eve exisit, I know about 50 people that don't want to play :P
but most of them think walking would make them play as that was the only thing that made them not like the game
also, outside of america the game is very well known.
did you jsut go there?
I thought you said you don't care!!!! leave!!! cry more emo carrier guy!
I remember when druids got bear form changed 100%, when the alliance only classes got put on both sides, it was the same thing, people got ****ed, but it didn't stop the game.
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:18:00 -
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Without major changes to the dev team philosophy I'll be amazed if eve is still here in 5 years.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Xaen
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
We broke 37K Sunday.
Probably because of that rule of 2 deal or whatever it's called. So that doesn't mean more individual person's playing even. So that means for now more revenue for ccp, but once those people stop playing it would mean twice as many ingame people will stop playing.
Well in that case, can I have your stuff?
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Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Luke Lor'aul
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
new player experience sucks
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
I hope Oveur sodomizes you during the night.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jenna Shame
Without major changes to the dev team philosophy I'll be amazed if eve is still here in 5 years.
please understand, the idea is to **** off older players to make more people want to play.
they know what they are doing.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Luke Lor'aul
Originally by: Xaen
Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
new player experience sucks
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
I hope Oveur sodomizes you during the night.
No, he'll probably make me do it 
Originally by: Liz Kali
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:26:00 -
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Well if CCP dont listen to thier playerbase I doubt it will be around that long, but I really like this game so I hope that doesnt happend.
If you had asked me this question 1 year ago I would have given you a more pasative answer.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Well if CCP dont listen to thier playerbase I doubt it will be around that long, but I really like this game so I hope that doesnt happend.
If you had asked me this question 1 year ago I would have given you a more pasative answer.
Your stuff. Delivered to me.
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Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I wonder what I'd do if someone contracted me their stuff 
No one has taken me up on my offer to buy their carriers at 80% market value yes. I figured it was a good deal considering how useless carriers everywhere will be after the patch!
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Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Krefken Howiere
Mass Production
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I wonder what I'd do if someone contracted me their stuff
No one has taken me up on my offer to buy their carriers at 80% market value yes. I figured it was a good deal considering how useless carriers everywhere will be after the patch!
Evemail. You have it. 
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tarminic on 24/10/2007 21:34:54
Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I wonder what I'd do if someone contracted me their stuff
No one has taken me up on my offer to buy their carriers at 80% market value yes. I figured it was a good deal considering how useless carriers everywhere will be after the patch!
Evemail. You have it.
I guess this is a bad time to tell you that I don't actually have enough wealth to cover such a purchase, eh?
EDIT: I do accept donations however.
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Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Edited by: Tarminic on 24/10/2007 21:34:54
Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I wonder what I'd do if someone contracted me their stuff
No one has taken me up on my offer to buy their carriers at 80% market value yes. I figured it was a good deal considering how useless carriers everywhere will be after the patch!
Evemail. You have it.
I guess this is a bad time to tell you that I don't actually have enough wealth to cover such a purchase, eh?
EDIT: I do accept donations however.
so do I!
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Krefken Howiere
Mass Production
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Edited by: Tarminic on 24/10/2007 21:34:54
Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I wonder what I'd do if someone contracted me their stuff
No one has taken me up on my offer to buy their carriers at 80% market value yes. I figured it was a good deal considering how useless carriers everywhere will be after the patch!
Evemail. You have it.
I guess this is a bad time to tell you that I don't actually have enough wealth to cover such a purchase, eh?
EDIT: I do accept donations however.
It happens to be a donation based evemail.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:39:00 -
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Huh. I've been playing since August '03 quite happily through all the changes. Doesn't turn me off.
Right now, for me, Eve is the best mmorpg around at the most fundamental level. Has been since its inception. It's cut-throat, it's player vs player, player with player, it functions as a terrific and beautiful chat program when I don't have time for a serious Eve session, it fuctions as a terrific strategic/economic simulator, it functions as a fun team combat game. It's everything I could want from a game...all in one game.
Where will it be in 5 years? Dunno. Maybe planetary combat will be a feature. We'll be walking around in stations interacting...maybe that feature will take on a life of its own as well, with ever increasing capabilities that actually effect characters, corporations, and alliances. Certainly larger battles will be feasible, though human nature and technological limits will ensure lag is never "gone." Right now, fleet battles are limited to around, what, 400 v 400 or so simply because the node fails (long after playability is no longer a factor.) When the node can handle 1000 v 1000 and beyond, people will sure enough bring that many ships to an important battle and performance will remain essentially the same in "big" fights...but the definition of a "big" fight will change. That said, fights featuring half a dozen supercaps, a few dozen capitals, and 100 battleships on each side might be feasible and yield some terrific fraps footage.
Lookin' forward to the new graphics, maybe we'll have a second overhaul in 5 years? There will be new toys of all sorts, various mechanics will be changed to a great degree...the game will improve I'm sure, if it's still around. And I'm sure I'll be here for as long as Eve is.
When I look back to when the game initially launched and see how much more fun and balanced and playable the game is, it helps to put into perspective the changes that take me a couple of weeks to adapt to. Yes, I whine about it when it effects me negatively. No, I don't tend to throw a fit. The game's just too much fun for me.
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:46:00 -
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Well I have tried to quit 3 times lol and I keep coming back.
All the other MMO's are carebear cuddle fests and I miss the griefing and noob tears.
It's pretty safe to say that EVE will have a strong player base until someone makes a game with the same fundamental structure with added new shiny factor.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: MITSUK0
Well I have tried to quit 3 times lol and I keep coming back.
All the other MMO's are carebear cuddle fests and I miss the griefing and noob tears.
It's pretty safe to say that EVE will have a strong player base until someone makes a game with the same fundamental structure with added new shiny factor.
I still can't believe this thread includes the words
"wow does everything eve does but better"
sigh...
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Praesus Lecti
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:50:00 -
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At the rate ships are increasing in size and power, in 5 years there will be planetary sized ships that can instagib every ship and every station in an entire system...but the weapon will have a firing time of 24 hours. Titans will be the equivalent of today's T1 frigates.
We'll also see the introduction of system harvesters, allowing you to harvest every asteroid in a system from one ship from any given location.
Amarr, however, will still suck.
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Theo Samaritan
Gallente
Pheonix Reborn
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Luke Lor'aul
Originally by: Xaen
Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
new player experience sucks
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
I hope Oveur sodomizes you during the night.
No, he'll probably make me do it
THIS WINS THE FORUMS
As for eve in 5 years? Its possible,if they keep updating the engine periodically they could have it going quite a while.
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AlleyKat
Gallente
White-Noise
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:58:00 -
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It's all about the ships.
The entire economy and therefore the game revolves around it. Without new ships the game will die.
What happens when you've (effectively) flown the biggest and meanest ship in the game? You've saved up and skilled up to fly the ship you want to and now what? No more ships? nothing bigger, nothing better?
Sure, there are options to do other stuff, play in other ways and other roles. But if you were to reduce this game down to its bare essentials, it's a spaceship game - and without new ships to play with, people will quit.
Purely from a game design point of view, once people have reached the final level, they will rarely play a game again. With online games such as this, the thing which keeps people playing longer is the people they play that game with. Yes, I know EVE does not have levels, but it does have perceivable goals which people wish to reach and for the most part this means new ships to fly.
Those that stay will do so because their goals are on a more personal level; they want to be the best alliance leader; they want to be the best trader; the want to be the best pirate; etc.
So, in five years - I do not predict the number of subscribers will drop, it will probably go up, but the remaining players will consist of veterans and new players. It will look like an hour-glass, with great numbers of people at the top and bottom and a fraction of people going any further forward once they hit the 'ship ceiling'.
It will get harder and harder to satisfy the veterans and too easy to alienate the new players, but the game will last.
Who will be running the game is another question, because I do not think CCP will hold onto the game for much longer and probably sell the management of the accounts to another company while the 'stock value' is as high as it is. Why? because as much as you can love creating something, there must be a time when you want to create something else, instead of continuously trying to re-create your initial creation or perfect it - you have to put the varnish on it and sell it (new graphics engine?).
Probably not this year, or even next year, but this game will eventually not be managed or supervised by the people who first designed it.
Not being negative, it's just the way I see it.
AK.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Tarminic
Edited by: Tarminic on 24/10/2007 21:34:54
Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I wonder what I'd do if someone contracted me their stuff
No one has taken me up on my offer to buy their carriers at 80% market value yes. I figured it was a good deal considering how useless carriers everywhere will be after the patch!
Evemail. You have it.
I guess this is a bad time to tell you that I don't actually have enough wealth to cover such a purchase, eh?
EDIT: I do accept donations however.
It happens to be a donation based evemail.
In that case, Gimme about 15 minutes. 
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Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:06:00 -
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I can't say I am sure of what the future will hold for Eve Online, but I can say with confidence that a small percentage of older "veteran" players who have invested a lot of time and skill points into a certain ship or module type will feel cheated due to game mechanic changes every single patch that is released and threaten to quit over said changes.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:10:00 -
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tbh i given it some more thought & i think in 5years eve will be much as it is now (cept with ambulation, T3 7 other shiney things). But, when local rises over 300, it will revert to a browser based text MUD to combat lag. Thus the need for speed initiative will be proclaimed a success & all shall dance
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
4 weeks ago??? no it was last week.
Power of 2. Welcome 2000 more alts, not players.
Originally by: MotherMoon
new players don't have to train anything to level 5
Only if they want to fly anything cool or use t2 weapons or five drones.
Originally by: MotherMoon
go away vets, this happens every change, you'r the old dead petal we need to cut you off, let the plant grow bigger (2 years here, I don't care)
I guess I'm a vet since I've made it past the reputed average by a factor of about three. None of the changes have really bothered me until the proposed carrier ruination. Even the nos changes were fine with me. What bothers me is the lack of changes in some areas.
Originally by: MotherMoon
1000 bug fixes with exnsion and new graphics engine and "new" UI (OMG finally!)
1000 bug fixes is not impressive. It means 1000 things were broken for a long time. If the current UI is any indicator they'll screw up the new one. They seem completely clueless.
Originally by: MotherMoon
People know eve exisit, I know about 50 people that don't want to play :P
I know fourteen people that are willing to play an MMO. Six have tried EVE. None played more than a month. Nine play wow right now.
Like I said, I'm still playing but I dunno for how long. If I had to start from scratch with a new character I wouldn't play anymore. None of the new ships excite me, carriers used to but they're probably going to be ruined soon. I've been tweaking HAC flying skills for weeks now for lack of a loftier goal.
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:23:00 -
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i am not sure the game will still be there at that time or if it is, it will properly not have advanced much.
too many ... nvm... would be a wasted of time to write a lot of stuff about it here
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
new player experience sucks
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
Just join scythman, who is currently dying in that fire over there -->
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Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:55:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Fswd
Originally by: Xaen
Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
new player experience sucks
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
You allready said in another thread you've canceled your accounts allready.
you say WoW does things better.
how can you say that?
they put out about 200 bug fixes a month, that's horrid.
and I'm sure that you would of quit if you were a pally when they like the horde have them. you have the right err, additude of a player like that,
which means your what... 17? 18?
Just join scythman, who is currently dying in that fire over there -->
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Fingapup
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:57:00 -
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Skills will all have to be trained to level 10 so the skill list won't take a week to scroll...
All skills will add 2.5% attribute gain per level for pretty much no real ig advantage...
T2 will be the new T1... T3 will be so specialized that even fleet pilots will need to change ships three times to finish a fight...
When the fleet battle lag disappears thro better servers, the ambulation lag will kick in bigtime...
There will be so many ship types no-one will ever train even all of their own race cruisers...
Asteroids will be invisible... minerals will be gotten by petition only...
Negative Wallet will be introduced to allow for the increased enhancements to invention...
Industrialists and producers will beg isk from the noobs in Jita to pay off their trillion isk credit agreements...
R&D will be renamed wReckage and Destitution...
Agents will no longer give LP for missions completed, but will remove isk from wallet before you start, just so you need not go through the humiliation of losing your ship...
Heat will also apply to pods... and may be delivered by GMs as punishment for Jita-spam and similar offences...
CCP will take over the 'Isk for Dollars' trade... IG Isk will eventually be replaced for real currency...
High Sec will only be safe in a BS as the gankers take advantage of the terminally slow implementation of Concord upgrades and 1.0 security...
Low sec will however be the safe place to hang out where you can still be sure your 400mil cargo doesn't get blown to bits by someone exploiting the fact that losing a HAC to Concord is a small price to pay for the joy of hearing some poor broke git scream...
Exploration will include not being able to get back...
One enterprising Archaeologist will discover a CNR piloted by a Beta Pilot who 'thought he'd give scanning a try' back in good old 07...
A lvl 10 Hacker will be required to extricate his pod from his ship... which will then be auctioned as a treasured antique and later blown apart in the Eve Alliance Gankfest... er Tournament... 2017...
EW will be phased out by Psych Warfare... which due to the lack of any real Mindlink thro which to operate, will be delivered via cruel and unusual smacktalk techniques in Local...
Local incidentally having been nerfed and then replaced due to vast protest threads from masquerading Jita Traders pretending they had friends...
All character names will consist of unrelated numbers and letters and will be issued with macros in stead of the tutorial... gameplay will be optional...
...I shall have tens of nubile female servants who shall peel me grapes and feed me on ambrosia and wine... oh... ah.. sry, wrong thread...
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Atama Cardel
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.25 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Scythman
wow Occara you are 7 months old wow your experience is so impressive. lol, get out of a ibis then you can talk.
I've been playing for near 2 years, so am I allowed to say that you're ********?
Originally by: Odda
hey im a gonnie and i like to sue CCP to gett the game to my favor
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Keithos
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.25 05:07:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Xaen
Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
new player experience sucks
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
rofl, as a veteran of WoW (I played from beta till about 4 months ago) I can say that you really don't know what the hell you're talking about.
You think CCP does a bad job balancing? Go play WoW, seriously go play it; and try and put up with your skills and talents going from sucking to overpowered to sucking to finally getting balanced right. It took blizzard 2 freaken years to finally make the warlock class a damage over time class and doing so without over or under powering them instead of being shadow mages. When I left WoW hunters still had massive probelms especially with pets and being able to find raiding spots and the entire expanision was effectively the original with better graphics. At least in Eve I don't have to spend 15+ hours a week raiding (which is probably the most mind numbing experience in gaming, and yes I've raided the upper tier of dungeons in WoW).
Add to that the fact that I swear the average age of people on blizzard's forums is 10, you think the whining is bad here? You should see bliz's forums, it's almost impossible to actually have a converstaion without stupid comments, half of the time some of the classes have no moderator for their forum and when they do you rarely see them posting (unless you break the rules or insult them).
I could go on but I think my point is made.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.10.25 05:11:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Scythman
eve will be dead, who want to play a game where the rules change every month, hell most of my 80 man corp dont play no more, only newbies play now out of ignorance. old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
Can I have your stuff?
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CelticKnight
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.10.25 05:30:00 -
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In the last 5 years computers have gone from 1 core @ 1Ghz to 4 cores @ 5 GHZ. next year 8 cores @ 5Ghz.
5 years? will we see practical quantum servers? 1000v1000s will be lag free! :)
This game progresses, not by the changes (i happen to love the new changes! and im an older player, but a sensible one!) but by the amount of power the game can shove around.
I look forward to seeing where we go from here on out :P
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.10.25 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Jenna Shame
Without major changes to the dev team philosophy I'll be amazed if eve is still here in 5 years.
please understand, the idea is to **** off older players to make more people want to play.
they know what they are doing.
If you think ****ing off long time players is a good business stratigy for long term success, I got news for you.
The problem with noobs is very shortly they become vets. Sooner or later, most likely sooner, new MMPOGs come along and old eve won't be nearly as appealing to new noobs, and the ****ed off vets are gone.
Really I do think they know what they are doing, they are going to milk this for what they can, regardless of how it affects their players or the quality of the game in the long run.
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Tonkin
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 05:56:00 -
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eve will introduce planatery warfare, like battling on the surface with tanks and stuff, like battlefield.
or
a rookie ship will be the best damage dealer in the game, due to everything else being neuted due to haulers being popped
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Doornroosje
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Posted - 2007.10.25 06:05:00 -
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Very easy, eve will be dead.
For me next patch is one too far. I will cancel my account (no, you don't get my stuff). CCP has gone the wrong way lately. Every time nerfing things. The game is no fun anymore, everytime you trained up for something, it gets nerfed. A lot of other MMORPG's have gone down the same road, and atm, eve is hi-speeding the same way too. People won't stay happy with the constant lag, desync etc, how shiny the new ships might be (they will get nerfed to a shuttle anyways).
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Posted - 2007.10.25 06:12:00 -
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Hopefully by then people will want to create amarr scharacter, not just select them by mistake.
I really hope CCP gets everything balanced, one of the major problems i see is that CCP is always releaseing new stuff, And the have to keep balancing, and rebalancing things. People will always find ways to use things in ways unintended and CCP will keep 'nerfing' things so that they fill thier intended role.
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Janus Veyron
Novus Universitas
Dread Sovereign
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Posted - 2007.10.25 06:59:00 -
[55]
For those people saying EvE will be dead.
You know UO is 10 years old now right? And that NEVER had the sub numbers eve does.
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Plib
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Posted - 2007.10.25 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Scythman
eve will be dead, who want to play a game where the rules change every month, hell most of my 80 man corp dont play no more, only newbies play now out of ignorance. old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
The rules have been changing constantly over the last four years. People have whined about it. Some left, most had the ability to adapt. The result has been a steadily improving game.
The only thing that's got worse has been the attitude on the forums but if the changes to the carrier are successful that might improve when the hoards of angry whiners leave.
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Plib
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Posted - 2007.10.25 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Dead.
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
No announcement but we broke the record last week.
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new player experience sucks
No it doesn't. I had a quick run through of the tutorial and it's way better than it ever was.
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new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
No they aren't..or at least no more than ever. The ones that can't handle it are playing the wrong game anyway.
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rules keep changing that **** off veterans
I'm a veteran (over 3.5 years now) and I enjoy change. It's what keeps the game interesting.
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many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
Only a few. Most of the game works very well.
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new features that few people care about
most people don't even know EVE exists
Now you're just being silly.
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WoW does most things better (no, I don't play WoW, but I have. No I'm no quitting EVE anytime soon, no you cannot have my stuff.)
Ah..you're a carrier pilot.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.10.25 07:10:00 -
[58]
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Well if CCP dont listen to thier playerbase I doubt it will be around that long, but I really like this game so I hope that doesnt happend.
If you had asked me this question 1 year ago I would have given you a more pasative answer.
Your stuff. Delivered to me.
it's not fair I want someone stuff :(
life would be easy in eve if I could buy like 7 logtisics ships, I love using them in PvP but ...well... you know :P
I know you guys can fight over my stuff send fraps
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Ares Lightfeather
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.25 07:24:00 -
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What is funny with that carrier "nerf" is that it's actually because they listened to the major part of their custumer base that they think about changing it, and because (from the dev blog) the way you're using the carrier now doesn't correspond to how they want you to use them.
Players don't want cap ship online, don't want carrier fleets. Without a nerf of some kind, in 10 years eve will be Cap ship online.
Therefore, since they probably will do that nerf or another one that will be just as hard, in 5-10 years we may hope for :
- huge battles with fleets comprising of different elements (from frigates to carriers and titans),
- cap ships in a support role with a way better tank than now, and increased support ability on the front lines,
- small ships capable of fast and deadly combat,
- real use for cloaking even in a fight,
- less lagfest,
- t4 ships (yeah, t3 is for next year or so...),
- some change on tank that make it worthwhile to use either shield or armor tank in PvP,
And until this time, can I have your stuff ? 
I'd sure like a carrier, even if I can't use it yet.
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Originally by: MotherMoon
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Umit Davala
Corpus PCG
The State
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Posted - 2007.10.25 07:45:00 -
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5 - 10 years time? I might have actually made some ISK and kept it!
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Groes Thir
Gallente
Karjala Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 08:04:00 -
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In that time, Eve will be a happy carebearland. Like all the mmo's ;-)
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Calimor
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.25 08:08:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Calimor on 25/10/2007 08:09:01
Man this thread is so full of awfulness it's not even funny.
Originally by: Gaira TwinSuns
Well I wonder what you guys think eve will be in 5-10 years will the same alliances still be around? Will bob be still dominant? will 1000 v 1000 battles be nothing compared to the 5000 v 5000 fights ( PREPARE FOR THE LAGFEST) who knows anyone wanna point out their views?
Of course the same alliances won't be still around. Just look at the maps and history of the game. Nothing lasts forever and 5 years is a lot of time. What kind of question is that even. No, BoB won't be still dominant, heck have you even been following the news? Actually, how can you even consider that an alliance in this game can last 10 years if in the past 4 years this game history showed how shattered can groups become after wars. And if we win, we won't be dominant in the next 10 years either.
I don't think we'll ever be seeing popular 1000 v 1000 battles, much LESS 5000 v 5000. I don't care about how good can the engine become and our video cards get. Even if our video cards will ever be able to run the sheer 200+ million polygons per frame (say, 6bi per second) plus the animations and textures and shaders smoothly that a 5000v5000 would require, I don't believe in 10 years the servers would be strong enough to make it happen.
Also I don't care about the computer progression but you should discard anything like 1000v1000+s, because even if the game playerbase grows tenfold (hint: not happening), the logistics hell of making such a battle happening makes it humanly impossible to be acchieved. So yea, forget about 5000v5000s, it's absolutely not happening.
To be perfectly honest I don't think EVE will be around in 10 years (and no I'm not a carrier pilot, but I'm a game designer student). I believe the game will reach a peak in some years and then decline, eventually reaching a point with perhaps as much or less players than we have right now with sparse and very few updates, just being milked (that's what happens to most online games) while CCP (or another company) is focused on another project. To sum it up: The game will exist with the servers up and running, just not be active anymore.
Either that or we will face a MASSIVE overhaul. CCP is unpredictable (I mean, the new engine expansion is something very rare to be seen in the game industry), although I wouldn't be counting on that. Last time a "massive" overhaul happened, Star Wars Galaxies went from bad to an absolute wasteland of nothingness.
Now, everything I said here was more or less what I believe to be what's gonna happen based on "history" or statistics, whatever. Now my VERY personal opinions:
I think the game will be extremely different. Because of the nature of EVE, balance issues will escalate in such a way (remember, a game like WoW is RE-DONE every time an expansion is released. EVE keeps a progressive growth in content while keeping small errors and issues from the past, that are cumulative) radical changes will be put in effect, reducing enormously the veteran player-base and whatever corps are "winning" by then. EVE will meet a silent end while the player-base is slowly rebuilt, although not with the same strength (which is not really big already) as before because of the priorities CCP will be having in some years (companies change, new things are produced, etc)
Yea, it's not filled with otimism. I wish it would be.
Everything else, however, is very irrelevant when you consider the fact that with a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE probability, in 5-10 years you'll not playing EVE anymore, and won't even remember it or think about it.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 08:12:00 -
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Within 5 years, I'd quite like to see EVE taking on a grander scale. Not with the expansion of the universe to include more solar systems but with more detail within the existing ones.
Say, for example, you populate the various planets around the galaxies, then tie some of those planets in with the NPC manufacturing process. Factory worlds producing ships and so forth. This would not only give the game a more epic scale (the illusion of affecting billions of colonist lives) but may add a distinct tactical challenge to sovereign space; in that you have to protect not only your indestructible(or so it seems) POS but also the worlds that are pumping out your ammo. For the attacking side there would be the challenge of getting a nuke-enabled capital into the system, bombarding the planet and getting out before the sovereign faction in that system came and wiped you out. Obviously there would be balance issues but I believe it gives the largest illusion of cause and effect without the need to create a game within a game for ground combat et all. It would add that extra little nugget of immersion to draw more people in and keep more people in.
That's what I'd like to see. What will most likely happen is that many people will still be playing, there'll be bucketloads more ships and bucketloads more skills needed to use them. The richer will get richer, the new players will keep struggling and the worlds will keep on spinning :)
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Sae Sato
Amarr
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.10.25 08:15:00 -
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In one sentence:
Blobs of tech 2 titans.
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iNFyza
Gallente
Surferio Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.25 08:42:00 -
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As a newbie... There are only 2 things that scare players away from eve.
The first is the long training time.. The newbies dont know about half the stuff you can do in Eve and so they end up doing one or 2 things over and over to make cash... While they wait 7(out of their 14) days for their skill to finish. I think CCP should make it a little easyer for the new players to catch up(or at least get a little closer a little faster) to the older players. At the way things are going, the newbs will always be 3 years behind on the training and will never become some one with any sort of power because there will always be 30000 ppl 3 years ahead of you.
Secondly, Can flippers. These guys are camping the belts where new players learn to mine. I got blown up on my first day! I had just done the tutorial and heard about mining into a can. So while I was in the starting System I started mining and the next thing I know im dead. I was ****ed off coz no where in the tutorial did it say anything about can flippers. It mainly comes down to the bullies who need to prey on the babies to make them feel better about themselves. Its not going to go away so I think CCP should put "watch out for can flippers" in their tutorials.
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Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 08:45:00 -
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In five years time, I'll still be here, probably still waiting for CCP to resolve their old storylines.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:05:00 -
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EVE is probably at its height right now, sort of its golden age. It is likely that sometime within the next 2 years it will begin a decline as many aging games do, and will though still surviving in 10 years will mostly be a much smaller game probably with a population 1/3 to 1/4 of todays.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:09:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Tonkin
Edited by: Tonkin on 25/10/2007 06:20:39
eve will introduce planatery warfare, like battling on the surface with tanks and stuff, like battlefield.
or
a rookie ship will be the best damage dealer in the game, due to everything else being neuted due to haulers being popped
but eve will be dead, with the recent stupid ideas and the recent dev blog trying to justify it, in other words we are going to do it anyways type of blog.
i think we should nerf the devs.
oh yes because carriers where the end all of eve right?
rofl, this is why they need to be changed.
oh and eve WILL introduce planatery warfare, they are allready modeling stuff for it :)
I <3 the eve art book.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mecinia Lua
EVE is probably at its height right now, sort of its golden age. It is likely that sometime within the next 2 years it will begin a decline as many aging games do, and will though still surviving in 10 years will mostly be a much smaller game probably with a population 1/3 to 1/4 of todays.
ewww I'm a fanboy, but most of this game can still be said to suck.
with the introduction of the new graphics I think we will start to see the golden age.
the 1000 bug fixes and the like.
the new UI, I love being able to move my overview pieces anywhere I want.
but for the most part eve has issues.
I love eve, but it still has issues.
and then when walking hits, whether you like it or not, players will flood to it. just because people like eye candy. it might not be a better eve, but it will have many more players.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:23:00 -
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I think once we get the new graphics engine and most definetly when walking in stations hits, a lot of new people will join which in itself is good.
I also think alot of the new players wont like the fact that there are people 3 or 4 years ahead of them and how harsh the death penalties / lowsec / 0.0 is for newer people. So I think newer people will push for a less harsher game which imo isnt good at all.
ps can we leave carriers out of this thread please.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sinder Ohm
I think once we get the new graphics engine and most definetly when walking in stations hits, a lot of new people will join which in itself is good.
I also think alot of the new players wont like the fact that there are people 3 or 4 years ahead of them and how harsh the death penalties / lowsec / 0.0 is for newer people. So I think newer people will push for a less harsher game which imo isnt good at all.
ps can we leave carriers out of this thread please.
good man :)
well I don't know, the only thing I see happening is CCP gives in to making ganks in hugh sec not give insurance or the like.
but overall, go into lowsec in 5 years and it will still be evil, go in 0.0 and it will not be carebear land.
which I'm find with, I live in 0.2 a few jumps form 0.0, the new payers can have whatever they want in high sec as long as it doesn't effect the badlands.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
EVE is probably at its height right now, sort of its golden age. It is likely that sometime within the next 2 years it will begin a decline as many aging games do, and will though still surviving in 10 years will mostly be a much smaller game probably with a population 1/3 to 1/4 of todays.
ewww I'm a fanboy, but most of this game can still be said to suck.
with the introduction of the new graphics I think we will start to see the golden age.
the 1000 bug fixes and the like.
the new UI, I love being able to move my overview pieces anywhere I want.
but for the most part eve has issues.
I love eve, but it still has issues.
and then when walking hits, whether you like it or not, players will flood to it. just because people like eye candy. it might not be a better eve, but it will have many more players.
In attracting new people I don't believe the graphics and/or ambulation will help significantly. Ambulation could help but they'll need to be able to do more than what is currently proposed.
I played SWG before EVE (before the NGE killed what was a great game). I was a Tailor and Chef (as well as a Bounty Hunter and Creature Handler) in SWG. I'm already here, so if you're hoping to gain us most of us are already here, though I will admit that I am looking forward to ambulation and it will probably increase my subscription time.
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Kastar
Memphis Technologies
Intergalactic Brotherhood
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Kastar on 25/10/2007 09:47:31
In short, people will still whine, others will still adapt daily and enjoy a great game. The ones whining now will have quit, others will have taken their place.
In 3, 5, 10 or 25 years, I will still be there  I just hope we have an emperor by then.
It couls be bigger, I hope a strategic planetary aspect will have been added then. Athmospheric flight doesn't interest me if the resources or territorial advantages of that planet are not used.
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Rana Ash
Minmatar
Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:50:00 -
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Hmm in 5-10 years, well most of what i can dream of has been said  . Nifty new ships, ambulation, planetary domination /me drools..
Oh and MotherMoon will be the supreme deity /me fan of MotherMoon from now on
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Leonidas Rex
Amarr
FM Corp
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
1. PvE will be completely revamped, now there are many different types of missions (combat, escort, recon, stealth, courier, factional warfare). In addition, the AI has been revised so NPCs adapt more dynamically to your actions and do more than orbit and fire.
2. T3 will be introduced, and will used extensively in both PvP and PvE due to it's adaptability (combined with heat)
3. Now propaganda will be better supported both in-game and out-of-game: leaders and spokespeople of alliances will be able to create special "announcement" threads on the forums, conveniently embedding alliance banners, EVE killboard stats, and even videos.
4. Battles of 1000 vs. 1000 will be common and relatively lag-free, and combat is now more spread out due to new area-of-effect weapons and the removal of POSes from system sovereignty. Small gangs will dart behind enemy lines to strike exposed targets scattered in semi-mobile bases throughout solar systems.
5. Ambulation will be alive and kicking - now instead of just designing clothing, players can patent and sell hairstyles and even be hired to design player-constructed structures or interior decorating.
High five on those ones o/
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Posted - 2007.10.25 10:19:00 -
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Since there are now more than 10 000 (!) carriers being used, its not very hard to see how it going to be in 5 years time is it...?
All other ships will be pointless, and the advice of the week to noobs will be "If you cant fly a carrier good enough, dont go to low sec/0.0 you noob!"
In 2013, only 3 years after the last known successful jump through a high sec to low sec gate, the game gets renamed Carrier Griefing Online.
All 25 714 pirate carrier pilots, who are the only ones who still plays the game, rejoices with tears in their eyes.
"Ebil EVE Piwats" gets laughed at by Elite Online players around the globe.
EVE died the moment destroyers and cruisers became useless in fleet battles.
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Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.25 10:24:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Rana Ash
Hmm in 5-10 years, well most of what i can dream of has been said . Nifty new ships, ambulation, planetary domination /me drools..
Oh and MotherMoon will be the supreme deity /me fan of MotherMoon from now on
thanks you :P
I think... hmmmmm :P
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.10.25 10:33:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Sinder Ohm on 25/10/2007 10:33:57
Originally by: Luthien Dawn
Since there are now more than 10 000 (!) carriers being used, its not very hard to see how it going to be in 5 years time is it...?
All other ships will be pointless, and the advice of the week to noobs will be "If you cant fly a carrier good enough, dont go to low sec/0.0 you noob!"
In 2013, only 3 years after the last known successful jump through a high sec to low sec gate, the game gets renamed Carrier Griefing Online.
All 25 714 pirate carrier pilots, who are the only ones who still plays the game, rejoices with tears in their eyes.
"Ebil EVE Piwats" gets laughed at by Elite Online players around the globe.
EVE died the moment destroyers and cruisers became useless in fleet battles.
Um LOL takes 3 months to get in a dictor and dictor bubble > billion iskcarrier and support is always needed in any fleet, try again
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Posted - 2007.10.25 10:37:00 -
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The game has a chance of few more years i agree.. but you gotta stop looking at it from game mechanics... that can all be fixed.
My personal opnion is that unless CCP hires a freekin amazing team of Economists to start slowly balancing market creating money sinks and go to war with inflation, what we`r looking in to is more or less the same eve as it is today. Just scaled up a bit of everyone flying ultimate-wtf-pwn-mobile untill it`s nerfed and then cluture the forums with whine. And no matter how good thair ideas are.. it`ll end eventualy.
One question tho, what makes you all think, that eve will grow exponentialy ?
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Verone
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Posted - 2007.10.25 10:41:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Occara
Originally by: Scythman
eve will be dead, who want to play a game where the rules change every month, hell most of my 80 man corp dont play no more, only newbies play now out of ignorance. old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
cry more, carrier pilot.
lol
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Posted - 2007.10.25 10:55:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Edited by: Sinder Ohm on 25/10/2007 10:33:57
Originally by: Luthien Dawn
Since there are now more than 10 000 (!) carriers being used, its not very hard to see how it going to be in 5 years time is it...?
All other ships will be pointless, and the advice of the week to noobs will be "If you cant fly a carrier good enough, dont go to low sec/0.0 you noob!"
In 2013, only 3 years after the last known successful jump through a high sec to low sec gate, the game gets renamed Carrier Griefing Online.
All 25 714 pirate carrier pilots, who are the only ones who still plays the game, rejoices with tears in their eyes.
"Ebil EVE Piwats" gets laughed at by Elite Online players around the globe.
EVE died the moment destroyers and cruisers became useless in fleet battles.
Um LOL takes 3 months to get in a dictor and dictor bubble > billion iskcarrier and support is always needed in any fleet, try again
Oh yea and as we all know a dictor bubble instapops any carrier, right?
No wait, dictor bubble and 50 battleships, right? But then again, how is a dictor (with bubble up) and 50 battleships going to kill 50 carriers...? (or even 10? (...5?))
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.10.25 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Sinder Ohm on 25/10/2007 11:27:20
Edited by: Sinder Ohm on 25/10/2007 11:26:34
Luthien Dawn do you even fly dictors? I do, tbh thats all I have flown for the past 7 months day in and day out. You drop a bubble while orbiting a carrier just outside the smartbomb range, you drop a bubble in front of the carrier, you alternate with 2 dictors that warp in and out and bubble the carrier.
If I can bubble a carrier at a hostile pos (with guns) while its smartbombing and still get him and get out alive then carriers cant be that nber vs Dictors can they?
and to your question about 5 or 50 carriers in a gang yes thats hard to kill but thats due to carrier spidertanking which atm is maybe too hard to get without lots and lots of damps and bumpage.
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Lazuran
Gallente
Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.25 12:04:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Gaira TwinSuns
Well I wonder what you guys think eve will be in 5-10 years will the same alliances still be around? Will bob be still dominant? will 1000 v 1000 battles be nothing compared to the 5000 v 5000 fights ( PREPARE FOR THE LAGFEST) who knows anyone wanna point out their views?
In 5-10 years, EVE will be free to play, CCP will be selling items for money and most of the time will be spent in stations doing stuff like /fart /laugh ...
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Z3r0n
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.25 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Z3r0n on 25/10/2007 12:16:55
Originally by: Scythman
old players like my corp have seen ccp change the rules so many times whats the point.
If they were "older players" (more then like 3 months) then they would be used to the game developing around them. If you can't deal with that then you obviously should stop playing and thus stop whining about it on the forums. The constant development of EVE is one of the main attractions for me. Any other company would simply make EVE2 and then EVE3 and in my experience these sequals usually suck big time so I don't see what your problem is mate.
Whine about desync or about real errors or problems in the game but don't whine about CCP fixing these bugs and balancing the game. Thats just pointless.
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kurg
Amarr
Science Production And NuKing
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.25 12:26:00 -
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I would like to see Eve evolve into not only planetary flight, but Ship interiors, planet terraforming and colonization which corps can settle and own entire planets along with POS orbiting it for protection (like a death star), landing and deboarding your ship on a plantet would allow for full exploration and a ground based game version of Eve, 5yrs from now the graphics i would assume will be almost photo realistic and character animation movement would be near human like, lag would be minimal since most of the processing would be offloaded into GPU and in 5yrs who knows where the PC market will be along with video! perhaps even console dunno /shrug
anyway just my .02isk
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Posted - 2007.10.25 12:26:00 -
[86]
Beautifully Rendered NPC Minmatar Slave Girls and the ability to shove people into station airlocks. Future will be good
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.25 12:46:00 -
[87]
Originally by: kurg
Edited by: kurg on 25/10/2007 12:38:01
I would like to see Eve evolve into:
-Planetary flight
-Ship interiors
-Planet terraforming and colonization which corps can settle and own entire planets along with POS orbiting it for protection (like a death star)
-Landing and deboarding your ship on a plantet would allow for full exploration and a ground based game version of Eve.
-Full ship customization not only visual but the ability to interchange physical components
-Full Eve's crafting system will allow for full ship construction, allowing players for create their own versions of BPO ships based on their own persoanl designs
-Full weapons and item customization, allowing players to invent and build their own versions of weapons and items for ships as well as avatar items
-All planets in all systems have life and can be terraformed and colonized
-More ship control once ship interiors where introduced
5yrs from now the graphics i would assume will be almost photo realistic and character animation movement would be near human like, lag would be minimal since most of the processing would be offloaded into GPU and in 5yrs who knows where the PC market will be along with video! perhaps even console dunno /shrug
anyway just my .02isk
never make something "photo" realistic, this is a bad idea. look at really good games, they are stylied versions of reality. very very pretty, but after a while 3-D looks better than real life
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Enterprise Estonia
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Posted - 2007.10.25 12:58:00 -
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I'm just hoping for more interactive way ships are handled- somewhat customizable paintwork (corp logos or something) and more "realism" in fights. you know the useless stuff for guys who like to play in text mode- parts of ships breaking under fire, local explosions, ships ripped to half... gods, I'd like to see that.
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Rana Ash
Minmatar
Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2007.10.25 13:53:00 -
[89]
Originally by: XenoPagan
I'm just hoping for more interactive way ships are handled- somewhat customizable paintwork (corp logos or something) and more "realism" in fights. you know the useless stuff for guys who like to play in text mode- parts of ships breaking under fire, local explosions, ships ripped to half... gods, I'd like to see that.
Your making me drool again , to be able to see explosions wander thru the ship until a big boom.
Pure awsomeness, if machine hardware and software have gone so far at that time.
Corse that means that someone has to seriously dent microsofts stranglehold, i'd hate the "New EVE" to be vista only..
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.25 13:57:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Plib
Ah..you're a carrier pilot.
Nope. I'm 90 days away from basic carrier capability. More from being good at it. And if they do ruin carriers like they plan, I'll never bother training for them.
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.25 14:30:00 -
[91]
I am reserving judgement on the Carrier changes - I have isk on standby to invest in IPO in a few months so will see what happens first.
I had this idea a year ago or so - of total immersion into eve - a headset and controler, I got the idea after a freind started humming the intro from .hack/sighn.
Can you imagine what it would be like standing on your bridge and directing your underlings on the bridge with vocal commands?
I can almost see myself walking around with my main Alt standing beside me as a secretary at all times
Would be damned sweet to be able to wander around my POS with hundreds of NPC charecters I recruited as part of the new crew system that will be made, slap on a bit of AI and it will truely be a total emmersion of an Industrial tycoon.
If Eve goes down that path one of the main problems will be British Telecom - they realy need to sort out their infrastructure problems with bandwidth, an upgrade to fiberoptics would be very much appreciated by them, as as far as I know many of their exchanges are still running on copper cables 
I can see a few aditional races being introduced, a push to expand T1 ships and fighters becoming player controled and upgraded to something like a speedy cheap HAC that needs to be within range of a MS to get these bonus.
I will still be kicking around Eve at that time I hope - my accounts are GTC up for some time so if I play my stockmarket well now I may come back in 10 years owning a considerable % of the Eve econemy
Who realy knows where CCP will take this - if total immersion becomes a reality then Eve will define the Space Genre, and WoW the fantasy, simple as.
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
Post with your alt.
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Occara
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Posted - 2007.10.25 14:52:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Occara on 25/10/2007 14:52:26
Originally by: Scythman
wow Occara you are 7 months old wow your experience is so impressive. lol, get out of a ibis then you can talk.
the truth must hurt, huh?
i've been playing these games since m59, and i've seen whinefest after whinefest. your whinefest is not the special, unique snowflake of whinfests that you seem to think it is. it's all been done before. get over it, and move on.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 16:14:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Tarminic
1. PvE will be completely revamped, now there are many different types of missions (combat, escort, recon, stealth, courier, factional warfare). In addition, the AI has been revised so NPCs adapt more dynamically to your actions and do more than orbit and fire.
2. T3 will be introduced, and will used extensively in both PvP and PvE due to it's adaptability (combined with heat)
3. Now propaganda will be better supported both in-game and out-of-game: leaders and spokespeople of alliances will be able to create special "announcement" threads on the forums, conveniently embedding alliance banners, EVE killboard stats, and even videos.
4. Battles of 1000 vs. 1000 will be common and relatively lag-free, and combat is now more spread out due to new area-of-effect weapons and the removal of POSes from system sovereignty. Small gangs will dart behind enemy lines to strike exposed targets scattered in semi-mobile bases throughout solar systems.
5. Ambulation will be alive and kicking - now instead of just designing clothing, players can patent and sell hairstyles and even be hired to design player-constructed structures or interior decorating.
Hairstyles hahaha.
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Valan
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.25 16:20:00 -
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I've been playing for a while.
I think the carrier nerf is good and a reasonable response to the way they're being abused.
I love the torpedo change.
I can also fly three of the new frigs, two of the new cruisers and four of the new battleships. I can T2 fit them all and by February I'll be able to fly every ship BS and below and T2 fit it.
Life as an old player isn't that grim.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.10.25 16:22:00 -
[95]
Originally by: 010131030201102
Originally by: Tarminic
1. PvE will be completely revamped, now there are many different types of missions (combat, escort, recon, stealth, courier, factional warfare). In addition, the AI has been revised so NPCs adapt more dynamically to your actions and do more than orbit and fire.
2. T3 will be introduced, and will used extensively in both PvP and PvE due to it's adaptability (combined with heat)
3. Now propaganda will be better supported both in-game and out-of-game: leaders and spokespeople of alliances will be able to create special "announcement" threads on the forums, conveniently embedding alliance banners, EVE killboard stats, and even videos.
4. Battles of 1000 vs. 1000 will be common and relatively lag-free, and combat is now more spread out due to new area-of-effect weapons and the removal of POSes from system sovereignty. Small gangs will dart behind enemy lines to strike exposed targets scattered in semi-mobile bases throughout solar systems.
5. Ambulation will be alive and kicking - now instead of just designing clothing, players can patent and sell hairstyles and even be hired to design player-constructed structures or interior decorating.
Hairstyles hahaha.
Laugh now, but it'll happen.
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Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Posted - 2007.10.25 16:48:00 -
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most of the current mature playerbase will be dead from heart attacks or other ailments bought on by sitting in-front of a computer screen day after day, tbqh imho lmao.
Their last thoughts as they fall to the floor will be 'oh ****, learnings to V never paid off'.
you think I'm joking...
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Oron
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Posted - 2007.10.25 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Oron on 25/10/2007 16:53:47
Edited by: Oron on 25/10/2007 16:52:17
Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Well if CCP dont listen to thier playerbase
Just wrong. I never saw a MMORPG Company so outspoken and informative as CCP is - Never! They meight not always do what you like (but thats okay because (not only) you tends to be whiny) but they not only listen, but talk.
Neverless Eve in 5-10 years will be prolly half dead, but perhabs there will be a Eve 2 out to continue the story. A lag free 1000 vs 1000 would be pretty sweet. :D
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.25 16:53:00 -
[98]
Atav - many of us are of college age, we aren't going to die of a heart attack.
I do 2 hours cycling a day and am aiming at doing the tour de France in a few years when I have confidance I can do the whole thing.
I also live with a dietitian - that does wonders for ones health.
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
Post with your alt.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 16:54:00 -
[99]
Originally by: AlleyKat
It's all about the ships.
The entire economy and therefore the game revolves around it. Without new ships the game will die.
What happens when you've (effectively) flown the biggest and meanest ship in the game? You've saved up and skilled up to fly the ship you want to and now what? No more ships? nothing bigger, nothing better?
Sure, there are options to do other stuff, play in other ways and other roles. But if you were to reduce this game down to its bare essentials, it's a spaceship game - and without new ships to play with, people will quit.
Purely from a game design point of view, once people have reached the final level, they will rarely play a game again. With online games such as this, the thing which keeps people playing longer is the people they play that game with. Yes, I know EVE does not have levels, but it does have perceivable goals which people wish to reach and for the most part this means new ships to fly.
Those that stay will do so because their goals are on a more personal level; they want to be the best alliance leader; they want to be the best trader; the want to be the best pirate; etc.
So, in five years - I do not predict the number of subscribers will drop, it will probably go up, but the remaining players will consist of veterans and new players. It will look like an hour-glass, with great numbers of people at the top and bottom and a fraction of people going any further forward once they hit the 'ship ceiling'.
It will get harder and harder to satisfy the veterans and too easy to alienate the new players, but the game will last.
Who will be running the game is another question, because I do not think CCP will hold onto the game for much longer and probably sell the management of the accounts to another company while the 'stock value' is as high as it is. Why? because as much as you can love creating something, there must be a time when you want to create something else, instead of continuously trying to re-create your initial creation or perfect it - you have to put the varnish on it and sell it (new graphics engine?).
Probably not this year, or even next year, but this game will eventually not be managed or supervised by the people who first designed it.
Not being negative, it's just the way I see it.
AK.
If someone else did take over they would need the following traits:
-Be more reasonable with nerfing, petitions and server problems.
-Have the same vision but more fanatical in getting things done right and as soon as possible, this includes bugs
-Keep the hardcore part of the game going, I don't want to be able to fly to my wreck and get everything I lost back.
Otherwise you would see me leave with CCP.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 16:54:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Oron
Fail Edit by Oron on 25/10/2007 16:52:17
Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Well if CCP dont listen to thier playerbase
Just bull****. I never saw a MMORPG Company so outspoken and informative as CCP is - Never! They meight not always do what you like (but thats okay because (not only) you tends to be whiny) but they not only listen, but talk.
WATCVH TAHT LANGWIDGE!!1
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Marius Damocles
Ninja Ratz
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Posted - 2007.10.25 17:05:00 -
[101]
Planetary Warfare [FPS]
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Kolwrath
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.25 17:50:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Xaen
the player base isn't growing (when was the last time there was a new peak user announcement?).
Sorry but your wrong. I have been playing for about 1.5 years now. During those 1.5 years the new peak announcements have gone from 15k to 35k(?).
I guess you are only refering to what ... the last few months? If you took a longer perspective you would actually see that the player base has gone through the roof.
Originally by: Xaen
new player experience sucks
Yeah it does. BUT it is way better than it used to be. CCP is constantly trying to improve the new player experience. What they have now is huge leaps above what they had when I started. I rolled a new char a few months back and the system and tutorial are vastly superior to what I had to go through initially. Once again your perspective is too small.
Originally by: Xaen
new players are discouraged by multi-month training regimens
I dont think so ... most new guys I talk to get all excited when they talk about thier long term skill plan. This gets especially bad when they discover EVE Mon.
Why CCP has not purchased the rights to EVE Mon I do not know ... its brilliant.
Originally by: Xaen
rules keep changing that **** off veterans
I am a vet ... and I welcome the new changes. Its ony the 14 year olds who get upset about something changing. Its just a game ffs. (dont get me started about the carrier whiners ... yeech grow up)
Originally by: Xaen
many parts of the game have been broken for literally years
And they have fixed a whole wack of the old bugs. In the past year a huge amount of the old bugs have been squased. You know how long Amarr stations graphics used to flicker? were you even playing? .. that was a DAMN old bug and they finaly fixed it. Not to mention countless others. Yes the drone system is still buggered but they are ACTUALLY FIXING IT. Shesh. So much has been fixed in the past year you cannot fathom. Again ... your perspective must be like 4 months.
Originally by: Xaen
new features that few people care about
Yeah that drone interface re-do ... nobody wants that. The new capitals ... nobody wanted those. Freighters? bah who would use those things ... inties are fine. The new graphics engine? not a single player is interested in that. Not one eve player got all hot and bothered when they saw the initial screen shots. The new exploration engin? bah nobody uses that either.
........ seriously you obviously dont know what you are talking about.
Originally by: Xaen
most people don't even know EVE exists
Yeah because all the news stories about the big scams, ginourmous corp thievery, etc etc .. none of that reaches places like Slashdot, or Nytimes, ... Yeah its a niche game. Yeah it dosent have the same cultural noteriety as WOW, but IMHO it seems to get alot more press.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 17:54:00 -
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In 5 years America will have the same issues with gaming as some asia places have now. In 10 years the government will have reacted by plugging people into virtual reality where Their "mining an asteroid" is really picking up the garbage, but they won't ever know it and all shall be good.
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kittykatkat
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Posted - 2007.10.25 23:37:00 -
[104]
Even in 10 years? It will run the united world government,
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.25 23:40:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Marius Damocles
Planetary Warfare [FPS]
oh! did you get the artbook too?
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Dotard
Minmatar
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.25 23:55:00 -
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Personally? I'd be happy if Backdoor bandit quits playing before then.
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Mokita
Caldari
Capital One
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:17:00 -
[107]
Originally by: kittykatkat
Even in 10 years? It will run the united world government,
DOWNTIME....oh god server crash
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Hermosa Diosas
The-Secret-Service
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Posted - 2007.10.26 09:56:00 -
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i think if ccp dont do anything then eve will die.
All 0.0 space has basically gone, so theres none left, the bigger alliances have now got a serious foothold and to be honest no smaller alliances can compete.
We definately need more space adding its now just far far too small, not crap drones regions but more npc space - LOTS MORE...
Yes it was ok 2 years ago when they only had 12000 ppl at peak time.
Ans we need to somehow stop all the current alliances taking it.
The numbers havent really risen in active players for a while now its been a steady 33000ish.
Basically new players unless really dedicated just cant cope with the slow pace, ships and mods cost far too much especially for new players.
The save and save for that ship thats costs 100mil then lose it cos their skills cant sustain it then thats it they quit because all that hard work was for nothing, months of trainiing, and mundane mining or ratting.
Then CCP wonder why they are ISK sellers/buyers
Lower the cost of stuff CCP eliminate the sellers. simple.!!!!
Its ok adding more and more expensive nice ships but if you cant get to them they are well useless to that player.
Find a way to help small corps and alliances grow. Stop allowing th big alliances just to take everything.
either do something CCP or your beloved game will die. or if not just have the same ppl fight the same fights. Yawn...
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Posted - 2007.10.26 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Fingapup on 26/10/2007 23:18:42
Realistic damage visible on ships... that you can repair or not... so you could fly a rock solid (full hp on S/A/S) T3 BS that looks like it went thro a scrap metal press and kept all its battle scars... or you can have it nice and shiny, if you polish it when you repeair it...
Crews on ships... already posted in one ancient dev blog...
Full planetary colonization... warfare... industry... previous dev blog...
Hangars that look like hangars... where you can see other ships flown in and out in real time and docking in their own private hangar space...
... which has visible 3d compartments to store gear etc in stead of flat old ships/items... Storage is racked around your ship like a real hangar/maint/repair bay that opens onto a view of the ships dock/undocking realtime... multiple ships stored in 3d in tiers of full 3d docking bays.... when selected they are levitated into position for boarding... 3d hangars basically... me, that one...
Spray Shops in Stations to respray ships... corp/alliance logo tatoos for ships... already asked for a zillion times... both...
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Dr Slaughter
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.27 00:02:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Tarminic
5. Ambulation will be alive and kicking - now instead of just designing clothing, players can patent and sell hairstyles and even be hired to design player-constructed structures or interior decorating.
I could do with a wig...
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Lord Berk
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.27 01:34:00 -
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In 5 years time they get around to giving Amarr "oomph".
(sry couldn't resist)
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Jaabaa Prime
Dental Drilling Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.27 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gaira TwinSuns
Well I wonder what you guys think eve will be in 5-10 years will the same alliances still be around? Will bob be still dominant? will 1000 v 1000 battles be nothing compared to the 5000 v 5000 fights ( PREPARE FOR THE LAGFEST) who knows anyone wanna point out their views?
EVE in 5-10 years:
CCP has everyone maxed out in a cruiser after 2 weeks.
All are skilled in a battleship after 4 weeks.
6 weeks into game, they are experts in their battleship class/race.
After 10 weeks they are flying capital ships.
After 12 weeks, they have left EVE and moved on because there is no challenge. (But 3 months subs for an online game is cool for the profit margin)
Not where I want to see it, but it looks like it might be the way, of things to come
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Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2007.10.27 01:46:00 -
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NERF EVERYTHING !!!!!!
NOOBS ARE UBER MAKE THEM BETTER THAN PLAYERS THAT HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 4 YEARS!!
KEEP THEM HAPPY OVER THE LONG TERM PLAYERS!!!
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Havoc G
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2007.10.27 01:48:00 -
[114]
also. nerf motherships/carriers they are too uber and dont cost enough isk and time to train for the stuff you get from them
kthxbye
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General StarScream
THE DECEPTIC0NS
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Posted - 2007.10.27 01:55:00 -
[115]
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Drizit
Amarr
Lonely out here
Division of Eden
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Posted - 2007.10.27 02:10:00 -
[116]
With the recent trend of nerfing, things will start to deteriorate. Sony made that mistake and many of their players on EQ left due to multiple rounds of nerfing. One of my corpmates is an ex-EQ player who grew bored of nerfs instead of new counter attack items, (not to mention that he was already an Epic so it was pretty much end-game).
It's what I've been saying, instead of nerfing, create something to counter or reduce the effectiveness of an overpowered ship/item. It's additions to the game that has made Eve as popular as it is today. Nerfing is making it difficult to play any more since you never know if the ship and setup you are comfortable with will be nerfed next.
With the current nerfing trend, Eve won't be around in 5 years but if they add more and more to the game to balance things instead, the game will become more and more interesting. If they balance by addition, 5 years will see much of what Tarminic envisions.
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DsItnangel
Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 02:14:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Tarminic
players can patent and sell hairstyles and even be hired to design player-constructed structures or interior decorating.
.........I take it you foresee CCP HQ relocating to San Francisco then?
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:12:00 -
[118]
Originally by: DsItnangel
Originally by: Tarminic
players can patent and sell hairstyles and even be hired to design player-constructed structures or interior decorating.
.........I take it you foresee CCP HQ relocating to San Francisco then?
Probably to Paris. Don't tell anyone.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:23:00 -
[119]
Edited by: welsh wizard on 27/10/2007 11:25:13
We don't really have a standard to judge long term gaming communities by yet. I guess Half-Life has almost made 9 years which is pretty good going although its counter-strike that really set that off and that appeared as beta almost a year after release. I'm sure the Quake community still exists in some capacity but it isn't exactly booming anymore.
The Civilization franchise is probably the longest serving multiplayer gaming community if you count all four games. It's still going very strong too.
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