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Dark hunter345
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:52:00 -
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nano vagabond, is there any caldari ships/setups that can stop them?
I am so tired of getting pwnd by them. Pls tell me how I can fit up a ship to stop the maddness....
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Mortuus
Minmatar
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:56:00 -
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Tracking Disrupter or Minmatar ECM will work.
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Annowyn
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:56:00 -
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Two corp mates played with that today. Cerberus with t2 fit busted up vagabond in t2 fit orbiting at 16k.
Was really pretty funny.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:56:00 -
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Precision Cerberus.
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.10.28 01:03:00 -
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A crow should be able to do it somewhat easily..
Rokh should be able to do a decent performance aswell.
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Dark hunter345
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Posted - 2007.10.28 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Dark hunter345 on 28/10/2007 01:33:47
Here is what i was thinking and tell me if it might work or not.
Rook - caldari recon
5x t2 heavy launchers, 1x t2cloak
1x MWD, 2x minmatar ecm's, 1x fleeting webers, 1x warp scrams, 2x weapon disrupters
lows would be w/e to make it fit or cap help.
Will it work?
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.10.28 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: Vitrael on 28/10/2007 01:46:11
 Originally by: Dark hunter345
Edited by: Dark hunter345 on 28/10/2007 01:33:47
Here is what i was thinking and tell me if it might work or not.
Rook - caldari recon
5x t2 heavy launchers, 1x t2cloak
1x MWD, 2x minmatar ecm's, 1x fleeting webers, 1x warp scrams, 2x weapon disrupters
lows would be w/e to make it fit or cap help.
Will it work?
No. You will cap out instantly. Don't bother with more than 1 tracking disruptor, the moment it hits him his tracking will be so awful his DPS will drop to 0. Also you probably won't need the web because he'll never get in range, so you can drop the MWD as well. Chances are no matter what you do this setup will not kill but only scare off a vagabond. To actually catch them you will need a webbing tackler, rapier/huginn preferred.
2 minnie ecm, 1 td, scram, tank IMO. But personally I'd say you're WAY better off using a Cerb.
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Thad Raven
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
A crow should be able to do it somewhat easily..
Not a chance in hell.
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shinsushi
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.10.28 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
A crow should be able to do it somewhat easily..
Rokh should be able to do a decent performance aswell.
For what... 20 secs til its popped?
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vitrael
Precision Cerberus.
If have good skills, a percision cerb will do the job quite nicely.
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Dark hunter345
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Posted - 2007.10.28 02:22:00 -
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Haha, ok, thanks. i guess i'll work on a cerberus set up for this. I'll be training up mec. to lvl 5 now :p ;)
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Dravin Troikian
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Posted - 2007.10.28 04:38:00 -
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You have no chance on catching him unless you are snaked and rigged out, in that crow. I like the Cerb suggestion, however, don't discount the arrogance of nano'd pilots. You can scare them off with a griffin, with x2/3 matari ecm. Most will realize once they can't lock you, they will move in and out of their optimal, and then you can use whatever dps you wish. They will pop and spill their T2 goodies out, like pinata's. Good luck.
P.S. I've done this in game, so i know it works. You'll never solo one in a griffin, however. Looking at trying this with a blackbird/rook, atm. I know it also works with a matari only ECM'ing scorp, with x3 large energy neuts, if they close.
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Hellown
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.10.28 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
A crow should be able to do it somewhat easily..
Rokh should be able to do a decent performance aswell.
LOL at this, seriously i loled :). If i ever lost a vaga solo to a crow OR a rokh solo i'd quit eve.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.28 06:12:00 -
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Stopping them is easy. Killing them solo is what is nigh impossible, which is the source of all the whines about nanoships.
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Mr Mozzie
Evolution
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Posted - 2007.10.28 06:41:00 -
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Precision cruise ravens.
Precision heavies and cruise both have the same velocity and explosion velocity.
The Cruise have a base explosion radius of 200m, and vagas have a sig radius of well over that with the MWD on.
The Golem will be even better with it's explosion velocity bonus.
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation
Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:41:00 -
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I've been considering a Drake with the following:
1+ Gang mates
2x TS web
1x Interdiction gang mod
1x Skirmish mindlink
TBH, this would work better on a ship that doesn't use its mids to tank. =/
Liang
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El Torrent
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.28 08:05:00 -
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Drake with domination webber. They never expect that, and they will die. Overloaded, you got 20km web range.
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation
Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.28 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: El Torrent
Drake with domination webber. They never expect that, and they will die. Overloaded, you got 20km web range.
That's the point of the skirmish warfare mindlink... 18.5km without overloading ... and with only TS webs.
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Hakar Eyeless
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Posted - 2007.10.28 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Hakar Eyeless on 28/10/2007 08:40:21
A common trap for vagabonds and other speedtankers is a raven with heavy neuts.
edit: It's always a bad idea for a vaga to get in range on a cerb. |
Vim
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.28 09:57:00 -
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Heavy neut baitship is like... suprise buttsecks!
Not to good a chance of getting your friends on grid before they realize somethings up and try to withdraw asap =)
scorp with neuts, mwd, med cap booster, webx2 scram, 3xecm, 2xsignal ups, 1600mm plate, larII. I know I'd never suspect a scorp to mwd up on me when I'am suddenly out of cap o_o
but then again, viability is something we can argue over forever. this might work, or it might just scare them off and it may die horribly as well :)
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Lazuran
Gallente
Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.28 10:30:00 -
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Apart from Neutralizer BS and since you're talking Caldari - don't forget ECM. Also, a properly skilled and fitted Drake will be invulnerable to a Vaga.
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Captain Vampire
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Posted - 2007.10.28 10:36:00 -
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Raven:
6 Cruise, 2 neuts (remember to cycle them to keep vaga dry)
1 Mwd, 1 point, 2 LSE, 1 invul, 1 med cap booster
mix of BCS/PDS/overdrive
Vepas med dmg drones or web drones
Neut him so he doenst mwd, mwd after him if he tries to get away, missiles do the work of killing it.
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Seamus O'Malley
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.28 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Seamus O''Malley on 28/10/2007 11:21:24
Heavy Neut Domi, with Valks II and mwd fitted.
Edit: Hehe, go gallente =)
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Ubaricous
Fat Children with Opinions
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Posted - 2007.10.28 11:39:00 -
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A lot of these setups will convince a Vaga to run away, but it takes something pretty special to actually trap the ****** and nothing Caldari really springs to mind for that.
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 12:47:00 -
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Well maybe a sensor boosted Rokh warping in from 100km to alpha the guy... but this scenario is most likely going to be if you're reinforcements.
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Arakidias
Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 13:11:00 -
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Moros with t2 warriors? 
Oh wait...
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Niffetin
Gallente
CONsordium Infinate
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Posted - 2007.10.28 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Acoco Osiris
Well maybe a sensor boosted Rokh warping in from 100km to alpha the guy... but this scenario is most likely going to be if you're reinforcements.
Not a chance.
Originally by: Arakidias
Moros with t2 warriors?
Oh wait...
Not a Caldari ship
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.10.28 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ubaricous
A lot of these setups will convince a Vaga to run away, but it takes something pretty special to actually trap the ****** and nothing Caldari really springs to mind for that.
And, yet, more than a half of the vagas that have been built have been destroyed and The build/survival ratio of the cerberus is better.
(Source, 2nd econoblog)
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Soros
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.28 14:42:00 -
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lots of torps in the air + a neut will insta volley a vaga anyday
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Andracin
Information Science Security
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.28 14:42:00 -
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the only consistant way to kill vagas without having one of your own is neuts. Ive tried webs but they usually stay out of range and if they stray into it it is usually almost at falloff. So aside from gimping yourself with magical "kill the vaga die to everything else" setups a couple neuts stops them in their tracks. Slowed/stoped vaga=dead vaga.
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