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Chejun Ishari
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Posted - 2007.10.31 07:43:00 -
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Edited by: Chejun Ishari on 31/10/2007 07:51:32
Pretty much anything that's BASIC, CIVILLIAN or MICRO (not MICROwarpdrives though :))
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Exuscon
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.31 08:55:00 -
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So basicaly you are saying Tech 2 AB's are useless in PvP?
MWD's are almost 3> but, I have been successful with the AB to.
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Possesive
Caldari
GALAXIAN
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 31/10/2007 04:12:18
* Gleam, Javelin, Hail - wtf ?
I use Javelin 
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:45:00 -
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The Energized Regenerative Membranes are almost always better than the Regenerative Membranes (better bonus in return for a whole 20tf). Apart from capitals, I've heard of people using them for comedy Navy Augoror setups with ~120k effective armour hp.
There is one situation where an Omni ECCM might be useful - suppose you're in a Jovian ship with multiple sensor types, and people are trying to jam you on all of them at once. Also, if (for goodness knows what reason) you wanted to supply a lot of people with ECCM, it would be simpler to give everyone Omnis than to produce a well-proportioned mix of the 4 types.
I'm tempted to add all non-large smartbombs to the list, because their area of effect is so small.
Also, Curator sentry drones. They are always outranged, outdamaged or out-tracked by one of the other three sorts, as well as being EM.
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Biatchen
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: Biatchen on 31/10/2007 09:57:11
Originally by: Menellaix
Edited by: Menellaix on 30/10/2007 18:41:50
Auto Targeting System - If this turned turrets into Friend-or-Foe type weapons, then maybe.
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: dalman
Edited by: dalman on 30/10/2007 23:57:58
All regenerative membranes/platings
If you have one fitted, you are wrong.
No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods.
I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group.
(micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group)
*edit* This one is ofc true ever since the ECM remake some years ago:
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
Omni ECCM. There is absolutely no reason to ever fit this one.
Capitals get better HP values with regenerative platings than highly stacked resist modules.
Do the math, k??? They do not.
Before rigs were introduced/motherships could use them, 1 regenerative could actually be used on a 100% HP-tanked Aeon (with no capital rep fitted).
(although, in practise such a ship would probably still do better with a cap relay instead to run remote reps)
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
I've heard of people using them for comedy Navy Augoror setups with ~120k effective armour hp.
Comedy setups, yes. But not to maximize their effective hp. Only for the comedy purpose of getting as big HP ammount as possible.
Originally by: Demje
regen membranes give you passive HP bonus WITHOUT the huge mass increase of plates, or the active cap consumption of hardeners. try them on a ship you use a MWD with.
Provide ship and fitted modules as an example please.
You know, even your third eanm (=harsh stacking penalty) and your damage control provide higher HP increase than a regenerative...
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Galan Undris
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: Galan Undris on 31/10/2007 10:55:52
Originally by: shinsushi
Capacitor batteries: LoL fitting
I always fit cap batteries over rechargers on frigate sized ships. Claw/Stilletto has 225 cap with lvl4 energy management, a t2 small battery adds 105 (+47%), wouldn't call that useless. Fittings are tough, but theres quite a few ships that can fit them anyway.
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Galan Undris
Edited by: Galan Undris on 31/10/2007 10:55:52
Originally by: shinsushi
Capacitor batteries: LoL fitting
I always fit cap batteries over rechargers on frigate sized ships. Claw/Stilletto has 225 cap with lvl4 energy management, a t2 small battery adds 105 (+47%), wouldn't call that useless. Fittings are tough, but theres quite a few ships that can fit them anyway.
Sorry, I meant more towards the battleship end of the specturm.
The one race that should fit them with no problem (amarr) has no where near to 70+ CPU to spare for them. Your right though, on the frigate front, +47% cap is very nice.
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Mudkest
MetaForge
Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.11.04 00:21:00 -
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too lazy to see if its been emtnioned or not allready, but this thing!definetly needs to be mentioned.
for starters, only modules that need electronics upgrades are signal amplifires and sensor backup arrays. Firstly, how often are those modules used, adn secondly how often are they NOT used because there's not enough cpu available?(and would you really rig your ship just so you can fit those modules? saves a around 2 cpu for t2 sensor backup aray with lvl4)
then there's teh multispectrum ECCM modules, only difference between racial eccm and multi spec eccm is cap use, doulbe cap use on the multispec, you know what sensors your ship use so why use mutli spec O.O if it was projected eccm I could imagine them being usefull if you dont know what ship you'll be boosting(but then there's only 1 type of that, and it boosts all sensors), but for your own ship? O.O
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Neo Rainhart
Caldari
Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.11.05 07:43:00 -
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Edited by: Neo Rainhart on 05/11/2007 07:43:32
Oh why yes, Nos must be the most useless module, srsly.
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Dedars
Amarr
Aurora Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.11.05 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Rainhart
Edited by: Neo Rainhart on 05/11/2007 07:43:32
Oh why yes, Nos must be the most useless module, srsly.
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Firane
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.11.05 09:30:00 -
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I swear by my LCB II Rapier.
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.11.05 12:15:00 -
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t2 small cap batteries are useful on any small fast ship that doesn't need to fit guns. they provide a larger cap pool to start with and higher peak recharge than a CR II.
i'm looking at you, ewar frigs.
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.05 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Chejun Ishari
Edited by: Chejun Ishari on 31/10/2007 07:51:32
Pretty much anything that's BASIC, CIVILLIAN or MICRO (not MICROwarpdrives though :))
Micro auxiliary powercore?
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Riho
Magnificent Beavers
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.11.05 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
I thought this would be an interesting post for two reason. One is to see how many there are, and the second is to see how many everyone agrees on.
I'll go first:
Capacitor batteries: LoL fitting
Shield Flux Coils: Ok?
Reinforced Bulkheads: They would make sense with a decent hull repper
Bombs: 20 mil isk for pretty fireworks that might kill something
You are free to dispute, agree, or bring up others.
i disagree on cap batterys... i use em on my pvp ships... well.. atleast some of them :D
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Adqam
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.05 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
* Nano Plating (instead of energized nano plating) - seriously...
Fitting requirements? They certainly save on the CPU!
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bellass
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Posted - 2007.11.05 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: bellass on 05/11/2007 15:28:37
tracking enhancers ... the low slot ones.
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Gloups
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Posted - 2007.11.05 16:20:00 -
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Warp Core Stab, 100% useless, remove it plz.
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Klavayne
Free Mercenaries Union
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Posted - 2007.11.05 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: bellass
Edited by: bellass on 05/11/2007 15:28:37
tracking enhancers ... the low slot ones.
You mean those really useless ones which are used in every fleet sniping set up?
Yea, definately a useless module.
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Karma
Gallente
Mos Eisley Consortium
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Posted - 2007.11.05 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Karma on 05/11/2007 18:33:18
Auto targeting System.
it'll auto-target ANYTHING, even clouds and wrecks, before it targets the ships that are actually attacking you.
Tech 2 Armor Plating.
same amount of armor as Rolled tungsten, but harsher fitting requirements than Tech 1.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2007.11.05 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 05/11/2007 18:43:39
"Micro auxiliary powercore?"
Pretty much a must if you fly a Stealth Bomber
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Svizac Marmotov
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Posted - 2007.11.05 18:57:00 -
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I agree on capacitor flux coils, reactor diagnostic gives better recharge rate bonus, plus the addition of PG and shield bonus.Same goes for shield flux coils.
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Smakko
Ad Astra Vexillum
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.05 20:32:00 -
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another crap thread from shinsushi. Why do you guys feed this troll?
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.11.06 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Smakko
another crap thread from shinsushi. Why do you guys feed this troll?
Thanks for bumping this thread and keeping it alive <3
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2007.11.06 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chejun Ishari
Edited by: Chejun Ishari on 31/10/2007 07:51:32
Pretty much anything that's BASIC, CIVILLIAN or MICRO (not MICROwarpdrives though :))
What?! I love the Micro Cap Injector!
BTW, did they get removed from the game, I can't find them anywhere...
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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.06 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
Edited by: Pottsey on 05/11/2007 18:43:39
"Micro auxiliary powercore?"
Pretty much a must if you fly a Stealth Bomber
Or most frigates for that matter.
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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.06 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bardi MecAuldnis
Originally by: Chejun Ishari
Edited by: Chejun Ishari on 31/10/2007 07:51:32
Pretty much anything that's BASIC, CIVILLIAN or MICRO (not MICROwarpdrives though :))
What?! I love the Micro Cap Injector!
BTW, did they get removed from the game, I can't find them anywhere...
Still seeded on sisi at least.
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Chochko
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2007.11.06 07:30:00 -
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My list :)
1) Automated Targeting System
2) Remote ECCM (useful in rare situations)
3) ECM Burst... may be 1 of 10000 setups uses it
4) Cap Batterys - too much CPU use, otherwise good module
5) Armor EM Hardener
6) Energized Reflective Membrane
7) Reflective Plating
8) 50/100 mm Reinforced plates
9) Micro/Small Shield Extender
10)Explosion Dampening Field
11)Explosive Dampening Amplifier
12)Micro Shield Transporter
13)Micro/Small Smartbombs (except for killing titans)
14)Anti EM Pump
15)Anti Explosive Screen Reinforcer
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.11.06 08:35:00 -
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the amarr race.... ohwait.. its not a module... let me think... hmmmm
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Spenz
Gallente
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.11.06 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
Edited by: Pottsey on 05/11/2007 18:43:39
"Micro auxiliary powercore?"
Pretty much a must if you fly a Stealth Bomber
the MAPC is an ESSENTIAL module for many frigate class vessels. Even with max skills there are situations where only a MAPC would allow a fitting you want.
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