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Neo Rainhart
Caldari Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.10.30 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Menellaix
Remote Sensor Booster
When you got a big gatecamp up in lowsec you might want to have a lachesis or the like being remote SB'ed to catch almost everything that comes thru. Very useful module.
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.30 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: QuickGonzalez thought of one more 75mm railguns!
not quite. some ishkur setups use the 75mm's.
...unless you're talking about the T1's.
oh and I add the 50mm plates. ---
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.30 21:49:00 -
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Cap batteries are usefull, but they ought to be tweaked a bit, make the large batteries harder to fit and increase the cap size of the all of them.
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.30 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong Cap batteries are usefull, but they ought to be tweaked a bit, make the large batteries harder to fit and increase the cap size of the all of them.
They'd have to increase them rather considerably before I'd consider fitting one over a cap recharger. =/
Liang
-- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU.
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.10.30 22:01:00 -
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Maybe make them Opposites to cap flux coils? Increase cap size by 25%, but decrease cap recharge by 15%, or something similar.
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Theron Gyrow
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.10.30 22:40:00 -
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Omni ECCM. There is absolutely no reason to ever fit this one. -- Gradient forum |
Adril Alatar
Minmatar Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.10.30 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Menellaix
Tracking Link - Same bonus as the far-easier-to-use tracking computer? Stacking nerf?
some logistic ships get a bonus on tracking links... scimitar is one of them....
tempest with a well skilled scimitar pilot can reach 200km+ optimal
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.30 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Goumindong Cap batteries are usefull, but they ought to be tweaked a bit, make the large batteries harder to fit and increase the cap size of the all of them.
They'd have to increase them rather considerably before I'd consider fitting one over a cap recharger. =/
Liang
Currently an LCB adds about 40% or more cap to a cruiser, that should be about what an MCB adds. An LCB should hit probably 40% of a battleships cap, but be at least as hard to fit as a 1600 rt.
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.30 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Goumindong Cap batteries are usefull, but they ought to be tweaked a bit, make the large batteries harder to fit and increase the cap size of the all of them.
They'd have to increase them rather considerably before I'd consider fitting one over a cap recharger. =/
Liang
Currently an LCB adds about 40% or more cap to a cruiser, that should be about what an MCB adds. An LCB should hit probably 40% of a battleships cap, but be at least as hard to fit as a 1600 rt.
I'll buy that for a dollar. ☺☻☺☻☺ SO how do you get me to stop posting? Bump this thread Until devs answer |
dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.10.30 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 30/10/2007 23:47:47 All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods.
I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group) Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.30 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: dalman Edited by: dalman on 30/10/2007 23:47:47 All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods.
I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group)
true but... how much armor would a cap ship have more with one fitted? ---
planetary interaction idea! |
dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 31/10/2007 00:06:14
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: dalman All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods.
I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group)
true but... how much armor would a cap ship have more with one fitted?
You can always, always, get more effective HP through the use of hardeners, eanm, HP-plates(ofc not for cap ship), dc and rig combos. If you have a regenerative fitted, you have not maximized your effective HP. ("effective" HP is all that matters... And this is true for cap ships as well, even though they don't have HP-plates) Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Centurion1
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:25:00 -
[43]
Tech II Nosferatu
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:29:00 -
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Man the first time I saw "regenerative membranes" I was sure that they made armor repair itself over time.
Sigh, if only.
Liang
-- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU.
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Man the first time I saw "regenerative membranes" I was sure that they made armor repair itself over time.
Sigh, if only.
Liang
That would be sooo awesome! ☺☻☺☻☺ SO how do you get me to stop posting? Bump this thread Until devs answer |
Subject3416
Caldari Pretentious Latin Name
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:08:00 -
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Cap flux coils have their uses. See: Any ship on which you want to have both a shield booster and a cap that won't run out.
Although I do admit some trouble figuring out a situation in which a *Shield* flux coil would actually be a decent addition...
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Tousaka Langley
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:20:00 -
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Regenerative membranes.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: dalman Edited by: dalman on 30/10/2007 23:57:58 All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods.
I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group)
*edit* This one is ofc true ever since the ECM remake some years ago:
Originally by: Theron Gyrow Omni ECCM. There is absolutely no reason to ever fit this one.
Capitals get better HP values with regenerative platings than highly stacked resist modules.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:33:00 -
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Capacitor batteries are the greatest thing that ever happened to interceptors. I'll reveal that to the public now right before rev3 when we won't need them anymore.
___________ I learned to accept ship changes months ago. Suddenly I enjoy Eve. You should try it some time. |
Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:48:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 31/10/2007 02:48:35
Originally by: Vitrael Capacitor batteries are the greatest thing that ever happened to interceptors. I'll reveal that to the public now right before rev3 when we won't need them anymore.
So long as you had 3 meds... didnt work as well on a crusader :(
ed; Currently they are still good for making perma-mwding vagabonds and Zealots.
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Stuart Price
Caldari Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:45:00 -
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Add Passive Targeters to the list, their sole decent use is on bombers if people aren't paying a whole lot of attention to the overview.
"I got soul but I'm not a soldier" |
Ess Erbe
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart Price Add Passive Targeters to the list, their sole decent use is on bombers if people aren't paying a whole lot of attention to the overview.
They're quite useful when scanning for oddball setups without trying to appear aggressive.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:11:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 31/10/2007 04:12:18 In no particular order:
* Bombs - the price, and only the price * Cap Booster 25 and even 50 - come on * Gleam, Javelin, Hail - wtf ? * Micro-anythings, basic-anythings, 50mm and even 100mm plates - wtf^2 ? * Nano Plating (instead of energized nano plating) - seriously... * Dynamic Fuel Valve, Engine Thermal Shielding, Liquid Cooled Electronics, Signal Focusing Kit, Rocket Fuel Cache Partition, Core Defence Charge Economizer... what the HELL were they THINKING ? * meh-ok-ish but rather useless, most of the time : Anti-EM pump, Anti-Explosive screen reinforcer _
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Commander Kahn'Alzaor
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:13:00 -
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I second 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II. Utterly useless as 1600 II's Stats And for 1,000,000 KG's less and exactly the same armor buff minus skills for T2 you get 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten
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Shereza
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:23:00 -
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I have a passively shield-tanked machariel for my main to use.
I slap some tracking links and a remote sensor booster on my alt to give her increased range, tracking (yeah, I know, on top of a 22.5% (at the time, now 30%) tracking boost from her skills, but she uses artillery), and targetting/aggro-plinky range.
It's a fairly nasty combination, honestly.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:26:00 -
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75mm rails: I use these on my cormorant to great effect. They're ammo killers but they do okay DPS with okay range on destroyers and they have such low fitting costs I can fit a medium T2 extender on my cormorant for a good HP sump. If I were so inclined I could go BC (executor class feroxes at least) ratting with one so long as the fights were one-on-one. Not the most effective guns, but for me fun is not always effective.
Capacitor batteries: Only reason I've ever used one was to keep a condor from capping out jumping across systems like Oipo. Otherwise they're about useless. Maybe if they were low-slot items that provided 50-150% more cap than they do now I'd consider using them.
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Transcendant One
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
* Gleam, Javelin, Hail - wtf ?
Gleam and javelin are rather useless. There's nothing wrong with hail though, it's situational but can be great.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 05:01:00 -
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Proton Ammo
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Demje
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Posted - 2007.10.31 05:43:00 -
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regen membranes give you passive HP bonus WITHOUT the huge mass increase of plates, or the active cap consumption of hardeners. try them on a ship you use a MWD with.
75mm guns not only fire faster, they take much less cap to fire, track better, and will eventually do equal damage to a 125-150mm over time, even then, if you're in combat with a smart enemy that tries to keep you out of your optimal range, if you stqay in optimal 75% of tjhe time with 75s, you'll shoot more often at optimal than with 125s-150s, because of their rate of fire. add onto that the extremely low PG and CPU requirements, and you can put some high power modules onto the other slots. my personal preference is all lows fitted with weapon upgrades, to make them even faster and more damaging, while I AB around my target hitting them all the while because my cap can handle the guns and AB at once.
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Weeka
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.10.31 06:35:00 -
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It's 50mm plates and you know it.
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