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shinsushi	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:30:00 - [1] I thought this would be an interesting post for two reason. One is to see how many there are, and the second is to see how many everyone agrees on. I'll go first: Capacitor batteries: LoL fitting Shield Flux Coils: Ok? Reinforced Bulkheads: They would make sense with a decent hull repper Bombs: 20 mil isk for pretty fireworks that might kill something You are free to dispute, agree, or bring up others.
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:34:00 - [2] i dissagree with cap batterys, i use them a fair bit, but not on BS. the rest are pretty shabby, tho all hav very niche uses - the reason they arnt used is that similar setups can be alot more effective with other mods. simple as, at least we hav the choice :)
Mudkest MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:51:00 - [3] bulkheads, lots of lows and t2 dcu -> brick wall tanking ----- GIEV custom ship paint jobs! I want my hello-kitty-kessie! For your safety do not destroy vital testing apparatus
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:28:00 - [4] Edited by: Pottsey on 30/10/2007 18:28:46 I have a number of setups that benfit from Capacitor batteries so they are not useless. I also went out my way to get T2 flux modules over priced so there is a use. Mind you I still vote T2 flux are one of the most useless modules ever. I dont think anyone else but me even wants them. EDIT: Auto Target lock modules. Not useless but close as they are half broken. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Menellaix Angel of War Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:35:00 - [5] Auto Targeting System - If this turned turrets into Friend-or-Foe type weapons, then maybe. Tracking Link - Same bonus as the far-easier-to-use tracking computer? Stacking nerf? Remote Sensor Booster - Combat doesn't last long enough to use these effectively. If only they would improve those, logistics/support would have a pivotal role in fleet combat.
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:38:00 - [6] Cap batteries are useful in some cases. Tricky to fit, true, but useful. Auto-targeting modules are useless as the moment. If they actually worked in some useful fashion, instead of a semi-random and broken one, they might be worthwhile.
Malagar Damned Legion	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:40:00 - [7] quad light beam laser anyone?
NoNah Unseen University	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:52:00 - [8] Originally by: Malagar quad light beam laser anyone? You're kidding me, right? Cheap as nothing, great fitting, and deals awesome damage? Cap batteries are great for a number of cruisers, especially support. Tried a guardian anyone? Wouldn't call bulkheads pointless, just very very situational. Domi's are pretty much it. Other than that, I'll agree. Postcount: 511953 [02:40:22] <elmickers> if you're caldari in a fleet fight, bring a corp
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:07:00 - [9] dare I say Triage module? --- planetary interaction idea!
Last Wolf Templars of Space	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:11:00 - [10] EM drones. There is not a single situation where at least one other drone type isn't better.

Baron Primus	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:38:00 - [11] Originally by: Last Wolf EM drones. There is not a single situation where at least one other drone type isn't better. Except for Sansha and the Blood Raiders? Each have a ~10% less resistance to thermal.. According to Eveinfo.com at least. Originally by: SoftRevolution WoW is computer AIDS.
Occara	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:39:00 - [12] Originally by: NoNah Originally by: Malagar quad light beam laser anyone? You're kidding me, right? Cheap as nothing, great fitting, and deals awesome damage? Cap batteries are great for a number of cruisers, especially support. Tried a guardian anyone? Wouldn't call bulkheads pointless, just very very situational. Domi's are pretty much it. Other than that, I'll agree. i was about to say... my alt's guardian uses 2 batteries (of the 600 and 700 cap type) to be able to free up its lows for a tank. of course, they are hell on CPU useage, but that's only because his fitting skills are so low.
El'Tar Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:47:00 - [13] Edited by: El''Tar on 30/10/2007 19:48:30 Originally by: Baron Primus Originally by: Last Wolf EM drones. There is not a single situation where at least one other drone type isn't better. Except for Sansha and the Blood Raiders? Each have a ~10% less resistance to thermal.. According to Eveinfo.com at least. Did you factor in how much damage thermal drones do compared to EM drones? Killboard
DARTHxFREE G.R.U.N.T	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:48:00 - [14] Ferret Scanner Probe I or the Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I,II /join Cheeze & Whine Club
Florio Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:17:00 - [15] cap batteries are useful for some fits and auto-targeter does have a role to play for at least one ship. are cap flux coils still rubbish? ie. reduction in total cap decreases cap recharge as the time to recharge remains constant, counteracting the stated cap recharge rate... I'm not a spreadsheet kinda guy but i'm sure someone's done the math.
Fenren	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Florio cap batteries are useful for some fits and auto-targeter does have a role to play for at least one ship. are cap flux coils still rubbish? ie. reduction in total cap decreases cap recharge as the time to recharge remains constant, counteracting the stated cap recharge rate... I'm not a spreadsheet kinda guy but i'm sure someone's done the math. cap flux coils have their uses... but does anti-em pump have one?
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:26:00 - [17] cap batteries are ok
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:41:00 - [18] Originally by: slothe cap batteries are ok I see people saying this, but its very situation specific, and only on a handful of cruisers. They really need either their fitting requirments to drop, or to get a bigger bonus. Since right now their fitting requirements are on-par with cap-boosters, how about having them compete with cap boosters on some level. No I am not saying give them ammo or anything, just a bigger boost (like double or % based and only where appropriate) to the capacitor.
Ione Hunt 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:47:00 - [19] ECCM projector _______________
Wayward Hooligan Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:54:00 - [20] Any turret with the word Dual in the name.

Gaius Gallius	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:54:00 - [21] Originally by: Ione Hunt ECCM projector They're actually useful with a spider-tanking Logistics ship setup.
Vitrael Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:03:00 - [22] Originally by: Ione Hunt ECCM projector Use in your logistics squad to de-jam your carrier. ___________ I learned to accept ship changes months ago. Suddenly I enjoy Eve. You should try it some time.
Last Wolf Templars of Space	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Baron Primus Originally by: Last Wolf EM drones. There is not a single situation where at least one other drone type isn't better. Except for Sansha and the Blood Raiders? Each have a ~10% less resistance to thermal.. According to Eveinfo.com at least. According to www.evegeek.com Thermal drones do about 11.3% more damage at 60% thermal resist, than EM drones do at 50% EM resist (Same for lights/mediums/heavies and Tech I/Tech II)
Last Wolf Templars of Space	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Wayward Hooligan Any turret with the word Dual in the name. I know A LOT of Minmatar pilots who would strongly disagree with you
QuickGonzalez Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:12:00 - [25] Civilian modules win the uselessness prize. New players now get 800k SP anyway, civillian modules were designed for noob characters wuth like 150k SP back in the pre-kali days. --- Alt: Thunder Sovereign
un5een Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:12:00 - [26] cap flux coil are useful... but only as useful as cap batteries, depends very much on the situation. hint: capitals and cynojumps. ----------------------------------------------- there are 6 million ways to die... chose one! - i chose LAG Kraftwerk
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:18:00 - [27] How about the 1,600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II? ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Natalie Jax Indecision Industries	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:34:00 - [28] Information Warfare Link - Sensor Integrity Least useful (or most situational) of the ganglinks. Automated Targeting Systems Great if you were looking to shoot at the scenery, and not much else. The Flux Coils seem pretty close to useless as well, but I'll defer to Pottesy on that one.
StinkFinger Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:37:00 - [29] dual heavy beams I and II ... total garbage module Originally by: Karanth That's like sitting on your hand till it goes numb, so it's like a stranger. It's not as satisfying, and I'LL know the difference.
QuickGonzalez Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:44:00 - [30] thought of one more 75mm railguns! --- Alt: Thunder Sovereign

Neo Rainhart Caldari Leela's Lamas	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:46:00 - [31] Originally by: Menellaix Remote Sensor Booster When you got a big gatecamp up in lowsec you might want to have a lachesis or the like being remote SB'ed to catch almost everything that comes thru. Very useful module.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:47:00 - [32] Originally by: QuickGonzalez thought of one more 75mm railguns! not quite. some ishkur setups use the 75mm's. ...unless you're talking about the T1's. oh and I add the 50mm plates. --- planetary interaction idea!
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:49:00 - [33] Cap batteries are usefull, but they ought to be tweaked a bit, make the large batteries harder to fit and increase the cap size of the all of them.
Liang Nuren The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:54:00 - [34] Originally by: Goumindong Cap batteries are usefull, but they ought to be tweaked a bit, make the large batteries harder to fit and increase the cap size of the all of them. They'd have to increase them rather considerably before I'd consider fitting one over a cap recharger. =/ Liang -- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU. Yarr?
Last Wolf Templars of Space	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:01:00 - [35] Maybe make them Opposites to cap flux coils? Increase cap size by 25%, but decrease cap recharge by 15%, or something similar.
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:40:00 - [36] Omni ECCM. There is absolutely no reason to ever fit this one. -- Gradient forum
Adril Alatar Minmatar Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:50:00 - [37] Originally by: Menellaix Tracking Link - Same bonus as the far-easier-to-use tracking computer? Stacking nerf? some logistic ships get a bonus on tracking links... scimitar is one of them.... tempest with a well skilled scimitar pilot can reach 200km+ optimal
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Goumindong Cap batteries are usefull, but they ought to be tweaked a bit, make the large batteries harder to fit and increase the cap size of the all of them. They'd have to increase them rather considerably before I'd consider fitting one over a cap recharger. =/ Liang Currently an LCB adds about 40% or more cap to a cruiser, that should be about what an MCB adds. An LCB should hit probably 40% of a battleships cap, but be at least as hard to fit as a 1600 rt.
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:53:00 - [39] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Goumindong Cap batteries are usefull, but they ought to be tweaked a bit, make the large batteries harder to fit and increase the cap size of the all of them. They'd have to increase them rather considerably before I'd consider fitting one over a cap recharger. =/ Liang Currently an LCB adds about 40% or more cap to a cruiser, that should be about what an MCB adds. An LCB should hit probably 40% of a battleships cap, but be at least as hard to fit as a 1600 rt. I'll buy that for a dollar. ☺☻☺☻☺ SO how do you get me to stop posting? Bump this thread Until devs answer
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.10.30 23:45:00 - [40] Edited by: dalman on 30/10/2007 23:47:47 All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods. I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group) Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me

Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.30 23:58:00 - [41] Originally by: dalman Edited by: dalman on 30/10/2007 23:47:47 All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods. I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group) true but... how much armor would a cap ship have more with one fitted? --- planetary interaction idea!
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.10.31 00:03:00 - [42] Edited by: dalman on 31/10/2007 00:06:14 Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: dalman All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods. I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group) true but... how much armor would a cap ship have more with one fitted? You can always, always, get more effective HP through the use of hardeners, eanm, HP-plates(ofc not for cap ship), dc and rig combos. If you have a regenerative fitted, you have not maximized your effective HP. ("effective" HP is all that matters... And this is true for cap ships as well, even though they don't have HP-plates) Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Centurion1	Posted - 2007.10.31 00:25:00 - [43] Tech II Nosferatu
Liang Nuren The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.31 00:29:00 - [44] Man the first time I saw "regenerative membranes" I was sure that they made armor repair itself over time. Sigh, if only. Liang -- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU. Yarr?
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.10.31 00:35:00 - [45] Originally by: Liang Nuren Man the first time I saw "regenerative membranes" I was sure that they made armor repair itself over time. Sigh, if only. Liang That would be sooo awesome! ☺☻☺☻☺ SO how do you get me to stop posting? Bump this thread Until devs answer
Subject3416 Caldari Pretentious Latin Name	Posted - 2007.10.31 02:08:00 - [46] Cap flux coils have their uses. See: Any ship on which you want to have both a shield booster and a cap that won't run out. Although I do admit some trouble figuring out a situation in which a Shield flux coil would actually be a decent addition...
Tousaka Langley	Posted - 2007.10.31 02:20:00 - [47] Regenerative membranes.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.31 02:28:00 - [48] Originally by: dalman Edited by: dalman on 30/10/2007 23:57:58 All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods. I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group) edit This one is ofc true ever since the ECM remake some years ago: Originally by: Theron Gyrow Omni ECCM. There is absolutely no reason to ever fit this one. Capitals get better HP values with regenerative platings than highly stacked resist modules.
Vitrael Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.31 02:33:00 - [49] Capacitor batteries are the greatest thing that ever happened to interceptors. I'll reveal that to the public now right before rev3 when we won't need them anymore. ___________ I learned to accept ship changes months ago. Suddenly I enjoy Eve. You should try it some time.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.31 02:48:00 - [50] Edited by: Goumindong on 31/10/2007 02:48:35 Originally by: Vitrael Capacitor batteries are the greatest thing that ever happened to interceptors. I'll reveal that to the public now right before rev3 when we won't need them anymore. So long as you had 3 meds... didnt work as well on a crusader :( ed; Currently they are still good for making perma-mwding vagabonds and Zealots.

Stuart Price Caldari Havoc Inc	Posted - 2007.10.31 03:45:00 - [51] Add Passive Targeters to the list, their sole decent use is on bombers if people aren't paying a whole lot of attention to the overview. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
Ess Erbe State War Academy	Posted - 2007.10.31 03:50:00 - [52] Originally by: Stuart Price Add Passive Targeters to the list, their sole decent use is on bombers if people aren't paying a whole lot of attention to the overview. They're quite useful when scanning for oddball setups without trying to appear aggressive.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.31 04:11:00 - [53] Edited by: Akita T on 31/10/2007 04:12:18 In no particular order: * Bombs - the price, and only the price * Cap Booster 25 and even 50 - come on * Gleam, Javelin, Hail - wtf ? * Micro-anythings, basic-anythings, 50mm and even 100mm plates - wtf^2 ? * Nano Plating (instead of energized nano plating) - seriously... * Dynamic Fuel Valve, Engine Thermal Shielding, Liquid Cooled Electronics, Signal Focusing Kit, Rocket Fuel Cache Partition, Core Defence Charge Economizer... what the HELL were they THINKING ? * meh-ok-ish but rather useless, most of the time : Anti-EM pump, Anti-Explosive screen reinforcer _ 1\|2\|3
Commander Kahn'Alzaor	Posted - 2007.10.31 04:13:00 - [54] I second 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II. Utterly useless as 1600 II's Stats And for 1,000,000 KG's less and exactly the same armor buff minus skills for T2 you get 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten
Shereza	Posted - 2007.10.31 04:23:00 - [55] I have a passively shield-tanked machariel for my main to use. I slap some tracking links and a remote sensor booster on my alt to give her increased range, tracking (yeah, I know, on top of a 22.5% (at the time, now 30%) tracking boost from her skills, but she uses artillery), and targetting/aggro-plinky range. It's a fairly nasty combination, honestly.
Shereza	Posted - 2007.10.31 04:26:00 - [56] 75mm rails: I use these on my cormorant to great effect. They're ammo killers but they do okay DPS with okay range on destroyers and they have such low fitting costs I can fit a medium T2 extender on my cormorant for a good HP sump. If I were so inclined I could go BC (executor class feroxes at least) ratting with one so long as the fights were one-on-one. Not the most effective guns, but for me fun is not always effective. Capacitor batteries: Only reason I've ever used one was to keep a condor from capping out jumping across systems like Oipo. Otherwise they're about useless. Maybe if they were low-slot items that provided 50-150% more cap than they do now I'd consider using them.
Transcendant One	Posted - 2007.10.31 04:27:00 - [57] Originally by: Akita T * Gleam, Javelin, Hail - wtf ? Gleam and javelin are rather useless. There's nothing wrong with hail though, it's situational but can be great.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.31 05:01:00 - [58] Proton Ammo
Demje	Posted - 2007.10.31 05:43:00 - [59] regen membranes give you passive HP bonus WITHOUT the huge mass increase of plates, or the active cap consumption of hardeners. try them on a ship you use a MWD with. 75mm guns not only fire faster, they take much less cap to fire, track better, and will eventually do equal damage to a 125-150mm over time, even then, if you're in combat with a smart enemy that tries to keep you out of your optimal range, if you stqay in optimal 75% of tjhe time with 75s, you'll shoot more often at optimal than with 125s-150s, because of their rate of fire. add onto that the extremely low PG and CPU requirements, and you can put some high power modules onto the other slots. my personal preference is all lows fitted with weapon upgrades, to make them even faster and more damaging, while I AB around my target hitting them all the while because my cap can handle the guns and AB at once.
Weeka Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.10.31 06:35:00 - [60] It's 50mm plates and you know it.

Chejun Ishari	Posted - 2007.10.31 07:43:00 - [61] Edited by: Chejun Ishari on 31/10/2007 07:51:32 Pretty much anything that's BASIC, CIVILLIAN or MICRO (not MICROwarpdrives though :))
Exuscon Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.31 08:55:00 - [62] So basicaly you are saying Tech 2 AB's are useless in PvP? MWD's are almost 3> but, I have been successful with the AB to.
Possesive Caldari GALAXIAN RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 09:11:00 - [63] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 31/10/2007 04:12:18 * Gleam, Javelin, Hail - wtf ? I use Javelin
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.31 09:45:00 - [64] The Energized Regenerative Membranes are almost always better than the Regenerative Membranes (better bonus in return for a whole 20tf). Apart from capitals, I've heard of people using them for comedy Navy Augoror setups with ~120k effective armour hp. There is one situation where an Omni ECCM might be useful - suppose you're in a Jovian ship with multiple sensor types, and people are trying to jam you on all of them at once. Also, if (for goodness knows what reason) you wanted to supply a lot of people with ECCM, it would be simpler to give everyone Omnis than to produce a well-proportioned mix of the 4 types. I'm tempted to add all non-large smartbombs to the list, because their area of effect is so small. Also, Curator sentry drones. They are always outranged, outdamaged or out-tracked by one of the other three sorts, as well as being EM. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Biatchen	Posted - 2007.10.31 09:57:00 - [65] Edited by: Biatchen on 31/10/2007 09:57:11 Originally by: Menellaix Edited by: Menellaix on 30/10/2007 18:41:50 Auto Targeting System - If this turned turrets into Friend-or-Foe type weapons, then maybe. GOT MSN?
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.10.31 10:28:00 - [66] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: dalman Edited by: dalman on 30/10/2007 23:57:58 All regenerative membranes/platings If you have one fitted, you are wrong. No matter what you are trying to accomplish, there is always a better way to do it instead of using one of these mods. I don't think that applies to any other module in EVE, so regeneratives is the only 100% useless module group. (micro smartbombs, smallest cap charges, smallest cap battery, etc etc are useless - but they do not represent a completely useless module group) edit This one is ofc true ever since the ECM remake some years ago: Originally by: Theron Gyrow Omni ECCM. There is absolutely no reason to ever fit this one. Capitals get better HP values with regenerative platings than highly stacked resist modules. Do the math, k??? They do not. Before rigs were introduced/motherships could use them, 1 regenerative could actually be used on a 100% HP-tanked Aeon (with no capital rep fitted). (although, in practise such a ship would probably still do better with a cap relay instead to run remote reps) Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I've heard of people using them for comedy Navy Augoror setups with ~120k effective armour hp. Comedy setups, yes. But not to maximize their effective hp. Only for the comedy purpose of getting as big HP ammount as possible. Originally by: Demje regen membranes give you passive HP bonus WITHOUT the huge mass increase of plates, or the active cap consumption of hardeners. try them on a ship you use a MWD with. Provide ship and fitted modules as an example please. You know, even your third eanm (=harsh stacking penalty) and your damage control provide higher HP increase than a regenerative... Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Galan Undris	Posted - 2007.10.31 10:55:00 - [67] Edited by: Galan Undris on 31/10/2007 10:55:52 Originally by: shinsushi Capacitor batteries: LoL fitting I always fit cap batteries over rechargers on frigate sized ships. Claw/Stilletto has 225 cap with lvl4 energy management, a t2 small battery adds 105 (+47%), wouldn't call that useless. Fittings are tough, but theres quite a few ships that can fit them anyway.
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:38:00 - [68] Originally by: Galan Undris Edited by: Galan Undris on 31/10/2007 10:55:52 Originally by: shinsushi Capacitor batteries: LoL fitting I always fit cap batteries over rechargers on frigate sized ships. Claw/Stilletto has 225 cap with lvl4 energy management, a t2 small battery adds 105 (+47%), wouldn't call that useless. Fittings are tough, but theres quite a few ships that can fit them anyway. Sorry, I meant more towards the battleship end of the specturm. The one race that should fit them with no problem (amarr) has no where near to 70+ CPU to spare for them. Your right though, on the frigate front, +47% cap is very nice. ☺☻☺☻☺ SO how do you get me to stop posting? Bump this thread Until devs answer
Mudkest MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.11.04 00:21:00 - [69] too lazy to see if its been emtnioned or not allready, but this thing!definetly needs to be mentioned. for starters, only modules that need electronics upgrades are signal amplifires and sensor backup arrays. Firstly, how often are those modules used, adn secondly how often are they NOT used because there's not enough cpu available?(and would you really rig your ship just so you can fit those modules? saves a around 2 cpu for t2 sensor backup aray with lvl4) then there's teh multispectrum ECCM modules, only difference between racial eccm and multi spec eccm is cap use, doulbe cap use on the multispec, you know what sensors your ship use so why use mutli spec O.O if it was projected eccm I could imagine them being usefull if you dont know what ship you'll be boosting(but then there's only 1 type of that, and it boosts all sensors), but for your own ship? O.O ----- GIEV custom ship paint jobs! I want my hello-kitty-kessie! For your safety do not destroy vital testing apparatus
Neo Rainhart Caldari Leela's Lamas	Posted - 2007.11.05 07:43:00 - [70] Edited by: Neo Rainhart on 05/11/2007 07:43:32 Oh why yes, Nos must be the most useless module, srsly.

Dedars Amarr Aurora Inquisition	Posted - 2007.11.05 07:47:00 - [71] Originally by: Neo Rainhart Edited by: Neo Rainhart on 05/11/2007 07:43:32 Oh why yes, Nos must be the most useless module, srsly. QFT! ---- Boost amarr, receive a slave
Firane 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:30:00 - [72] I swear by my LCB II Rapier. -----
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:15:00 - [73] t2 small cap batteries are useful on any small fast ship that doesn't need to fit guns. they provide a larger cap pool to start with and higher peak recharge than a CR II. i'm looking at you, ewar frigs.
vanBuskirk Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:27:00 - [74] Originally by: Chejun Ishari Edited by: Chejun Ishari on 31/10/2007 07:51:32 Pretty much anything that's BASIC, CIVILLIAN or MICRO (not MICROwarpdrives though :)) Micro auxiliary powercore? ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
Riho Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:56:00 - [75] Originally by: shinsushi I thought this would be an interesting post for two reason. One is to see how many there are, and the second is to see how many everyone agrees on. I'll go first: Capacitor batteries: LoL fitting Shield Flux Coils: Ok? Reinforced Bulkheads: They would make sense with a decent hull repper Bombs: 20 mil isk for pretty fireworks that might kill something You are free to dispute, agree, or bring up others. i disagree on cap batterys... i use em on my pvp ships... well.. atleast some of them :D
Adqam Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:11:00 - [76] Originally by: Akita T * Nano Plating (instead of energized nano plating) - seriously... Fitting requirements? They certainly save on the CPU! -- I like cheese.
bellass	Posted - 2007.11.05 15:28:00 - [77] Edited by: bellass on 05/11/2007 15:28:37 tracking enhancers ... the low slot ones.
Gloups	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:20:00 - [78] Warp Core Stab, 100% useless, remove it plz.
Klavayne Free Mercenaries Union	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:22:00 - [79] Originally by: bellass Edited by: bellass on 05/11/2007 15:28:37 tracking enhancers ... the low slot ones. You mean those really useless ones which are used in every fleet sniping set up? Yea, definately a useless module.
Karma Gallente Mos Eisley Consortium	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:25:00 - [80] Edited by: Karma on 05/11/2007 18:33:18 Auto targeting System. it'll auto-target ANYTHING, even clouds and wrecks, before it targets the ships that are actually attacking you. Tech 2 Armor Plating. same amount of armor as Rolled tungsten, but harsher fitting requirements than Tech 1. _________________ "No Worries" Karma, fool on the hull.

Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:43:00 - [81] Edited by: Pottsey on 05/11/2007 18:43:39 "Micro auxiliary powercore?" Pretty much a must if you fly a Stealth Bomber Passive shield tanking guide click here
Svizac Marmotov	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:57:00 - [82] I agree on capacitor flux coils, reactor diagnostic gives better recharge rate bonus, plus the addition of PG and shield bonus.Same goes for shield flux coils.
Smakko Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.05 20:32:00 - [83] another crap thread from shinsushi. Why do you guys feed this troll?
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.11.06 01:48:00 - [84] Originally by: Smakko another crap thread from shinsushi. Why do you guys feed this troll? Thanks for bumping this thread and keeping it alive <3 ☺☻☺☻☺ SO how do you get me to stop posting? Bump this thread Until devs answer
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Heretic Army	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:12:00 - [85] Originally by: Chejun Ishari Edited by: Chejun Ishari on 31/10/2007 07:51:32 Pretty much anything that's BASIC, CIVILLIAN or MICRO (not MICROwarpdrives though :)) What?! I love the Micro Cap Injector! BTW, did they get removed from the game, I can't find them anywhere... --- Amarr/Caldari, and proud of it. Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:24:00 - [86] Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 05/11/2007 18:43:39 "Micro auxiliary powercore?" Pretty much a must if you fly a Stealth Bomber Or most frigates for that matter.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:27:00 - [87] Originally by: Bardi MecAuldnis Originally by: Chejun Ishari Edited by: Chejun Ishari on 31/10/2007 07:51:32 Pretty much anything that's BASIC, CIVILLIAN or MICRO (not MICROwarpdrives though :)) What?! I love the Micro Cap Injector! BTW, did they get removed from the game, I can't find them anywhere... Still seeded on sisi at least.
Chochko Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2007.11.06 07:30:00 - [88] My list :) 1) Automated Targeting System 2) Remote ECCM (useful in rare situations) 3) ECM Burst... may be 1 of 10000 setups uses it 4) Cap Batterys - too much CPU use, otherwise good module 5) Armor EM Hardener 6) Energized Reflective Membrane 7) Reflective Plating 8) 50/100 mm Reinforced plates 9) Micro/Small Shield Extender 10)Explosion Dampening Field 11)Explosive Dampening Amplifier 12)Micro Shield Transporter 13)Micro/Small Smartbombs (except for killing titans) 14)Anti EM Pump 15)Anti Explosive Screen Reinforcer ------------------------------------------- Sig
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.11.06 08:35:00 - [89] the amarr race.... ohwait.. its not a module... let me think... hmmmm ->My Vids<-
Spenz Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.06 11:22:00 - [90] Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 05/11/2007 18:43:39 "Micro auxiliary powercore?" Pretty much a must if you fly a Stealth Bomber the MAPC is an ESSENTIAL module for many frigate class vessels. Even with max skills there are situations where only a MAPC would allow a fitting you want. If I had an Alt I would probably post with it...

Caffeine Junkie Caldari The Ministry Of Funny Walks	Posted - 2007.11.06 12:16:00 - [91] Originally by: shinsushi I thought this would be an interesting post for two reason. One is to see how many there are, and the second is to see how many everyone agrees on. I'll go first: Capacitor batteries: LoL fitting Shield Flux Coils: Ok? Reinforced Bulkheads: They would make sense with a decent hull repper Bombs: 20 mil isk for pretty fireworks that might kill something You are free to dispute, agree, or bring up others. Cap Batteries are good on Transport Ships, give them the power to do long warps in one hit. Owner of the Kyonoke Pit
Darth Nerf	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:07:00 - [92] Originally by: Caffeine Junkie Cap Batteries are good on Transport Ships, give them the power to do long warps in one hit. I agree! I use them on frigs with crappy capacitor capacity as well, for the same reason. Shield Flux Coils get my vote. Buff me, nerf you!!!!
Lord Zoran Caldari CrAzyF1sTs	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:07:00 - [93] nano plating and the worst thing is when i had an officer spawn it dropped 1 of them --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!! Yarr!?!?!?!?!
Corwain Gallente Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:16:00 - [94] Originally by: Akita T * Micro-anythings, basic-anythings, 50mm and even 100mm plates - wtf^2 ? Gotta disagree here, my dual-micro-injected PvP Iteron Mark V wouldn't be able to run a dual SAR II tank without the cap from the 150 charges it gets from the micro injectors. Or was in 200 charges? Can't be sure... --
Exus PsyCorp INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:20:00 - [95] first: there's a ******* lots of stupids comments, everything is usefull or should be usefull in next patches second: you better talk about what to add than what to remove... r...ds òò
miro hirisko	Posted - 2007.11.06 17:41:00 - [96] Originally by: Garia666 the amarr race.... ohwait.. its not a module... let me think... hmmmm dont worry factional warfare shall see the removal of the amarr race
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.11.07 21:25:00 - [97] Originally by: Exus first: there's a ******* lots of stupids comments, everything is usefull or should be usefull in next patches second: you better talk about what to add than what to remove... r...ds Nice signature. I don't think your right on alot of counts though. Large cap batteries are not used very often, there is a good reason for that. There are a junkload of rigs that are more or less pointless ever seen anyone fit a 50mm plate? ☺☻☺☻☺ SO how do you get me to stop posting? Bump this thread Until devs answer


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