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Fat Willy
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Posted - 2007.11.03 16:08:00 -
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OK so Jita is the longest standing lag-fest in the game. And before Jita, we had Yulai (nicknamed Yu-lag) that was the dominant trade centre in the game. Yulai only died when the superhighways were scrapped, in an attempt to relieve the pressure on that system, but surprise surprise, Jita simply took its place. So market forces seem to dictate that there will always be a master trade centre in the game.
The more the station at Jita IV moon 4 has prospered, the more pointless the rest of Jita has become. Other activity in Jita has become impractical because of the lag - even the agents have moved out! Lets face it, the only reason people go there these days is because of the trade hub, or if their sadistic agent from a nearby system happens to send them through there on a courier mission.
So why don't we accept that Jita only needs to be a trade hub now? Why can't we just jump straight into the station from the jump gate? It would save a lot of time-wasting for us all, and reduce the server-hits from this system. When leaving the station, we could instead be offered jump-routes out of the trade hub into a chioce of neighbouring systems. Yippee! No more laggy pile-up when we leave the hub, and no more frustration trying to align for warp whilst countless other ships are ejected from the station on top of you.
The only down-side of this that I can think of is that it makes the war-related camping that sometimes goes on there more difficult, but this could presumably move to the jump-in points.
So how about it CCP - remove this miserable system and give us direct jump access into the trade-hub we all need. You could probably do the same in Amarr, Rens etc as well?
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Snake Doctor
MacroIntel
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.11.03 16:16:00 -
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first in another jita whine
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Ey'up Miduck
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Posted - 2007.11.03 16:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Snake Doctor
first in another jita whine
Yup, but something does need to change in Jita. People will rightly continue to ask for something to be done until its fixed.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.03 16:33:00 -
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no, people are morons, Jita HAS been continually fixed, the problem is more lemmings keep piling in
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.03 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
no, people are morons, Jita HAS been continually fixed, the problem is more lemmings keep piling in
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Fat Willy
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Posted - 2007.11.03 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
no, people are morons, Jita HAS been continually fixed, the problem is more lemmings keep piling in
Thats the majority of players you're calling morons. Bet you've been to Jita too!
But seriously, the game will be better for everyone if this bottleneck can be bypassed. And this isn't a whine, its a practical suggestion.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.03 16:51:00 -
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actually no, I haven't
I use Rens
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Leora Nomen
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Posted - 2007.11.03 17:37:00 -
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There are things selling at other stations in Jita. And it would drive suicide gankers and war camps for shoppers out of business.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
Shadow Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.11.03 17:43:00 -
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If ppl are so stupid to use jita, let them. Its their own fault if they get cought in the lag that they created by themselfs and I dont care if they get ganked by suicide gankers. Serves them right.
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Karen Serasia
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Posted - 2007.11.03 17:44:00 -
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One does not simply "fix" Jita.
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Naervic
Gallente
Brotherhood of the Shadows
Momentum Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.03 17:50:00 -
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The outstanding problem here is this. Say your idea is implemented and we can fit 2,000 ppl into Jita before the lag starts. What is going to happen? 3000 little morons will pile into Jita, start screaming bloody murder over the lag, and accusing CCP of being lazy, not caring about the people who pay the game, etc... etc... etc... And a million more whines will be posted across the forums complaining. There are thousands of systems in Eve, multiple trade hubs across the galaxy, just pick another.
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Zanarkand
Gallente
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.03 17:53:00 -
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A good fix would be faction modules on market, something similar to EFT. In my opinion this would help a lot.
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Alyth
Gallente
Ma-Ven Industries
Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.03 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Fat Willy
OK so Jita is the longest standing lag-fest in the game. And before Jita, we had Yulai (nicknamed Yu-lag) that was the dominant trade centre in the game. Yulai only died when the superhighways were scrapped, in an attempt to relieve the pressure on that system, but surprise surprise, Jita simply took its place. So market forces seem to dictate that there will always be a master trade centre in the game.
The more the station at Jita IV moon 4 has prospered, the more pointless the rest of Jita has become. Other activity in Jita has become impractical because of the lag - even the agents have moved out! Lets face it, the only reason people go there these days is because of the trade hub, or if their sadistic agent from a nearby system happens to send them through there on a courier mission.
So why don't we accept that Jita only needs to be a trade hub now? Why can't we just jump straight into the station from the jump gate? It would save a lot of time-wasting for us all, and reduce the server-hits from this system. When leaving the station, we could instead be offered jump-routes out of the trade hub into a chioce of neighbouring systems. Yippee! No more laggy pile-up when we leave the hub, and no more frustration trying to align for warp whilst countless other ships are ejected from the station on top of you.
The only down-side of this that I can think of is that it makes the war-related camping that sometimes goes on there more difficult, but this could presumably move to the jump-in points.
So how about it CCP - remove this miserable system and give us direct jump access into the trade-hub we all need. You could probably do the same in Amarr, Rens etc as well?
Anyone remember similar arguments for Yulai?
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Arcticblue2
Gallente
Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2007.11.03 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Alyth
Originally by: Fat Willy
OK so Jita is the longest standing lag-fest in the game. And before Jita, we had Yulai (nicknamed Yu-lag) that was the dominant trade centre in the game. Yulai only died when the superhighways were scrapped, in an attempt to relieve the pressure on that system, but surprise surprise, Jita simply took its place. So market forces seem to dictate that there will always be a master trade centre in the game.
The more the station at Jita IV moon 4 has prospered, the more pointless the rest of Jita has become. Other activity in Jita has become impractical because of the lag - even the agents have moved out! Lets face it, the only reason people go there these days is because of the trade hub, or if their sadistic agent from a nearby system happens to send them through there on a courier mission.
So why don't we accept that Jita only needs to be a trade hub now? Why can't we just jump straight into the station from the jump gate? It would save a lot of time-wasting for us all, and reduce the server-hits from this system. When leaving the station, we could instead be offered jump-routes out of the trade hub into a chioce of neighbouring systems. Yippee! No more laggy pile-up when we leave the hub, and no more frustration trying to align for warp whilst countless other ships are ejected from the station on top of you.
The only down-side of this that I can think of is that it makes the war-related camping that sometimes goes on there more difficult, but this could presumably move to the jump-in points.
So how about it CCP - remove this miserable system and give us direct jump access into the trade-hub we all need. You could probably do the same in Amarr, Rens etc as well?
Anyone remember similar arguments for Yulai?
I do, but I suspect that OP is too young character to remember Yulai... Jita is today what Yulai was before, they fixed Yulai .. but created Jita.
Fix Jita and you create something else... just as bad or maybe worse.
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F90OEX
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Posted - 2007.11.03 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: F90OEX on 03/11/2007 18:36:05
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Khanox
0utlaws
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Posted - 2007.11.03 19:24:00 -
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Introduce low sec between empires
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Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2007.11.03 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Khanox
Introduce low sec between empires
I proposed that earlier : Archipelago Theory
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.11.03 20:43:00 -
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To "fix" any sort of uber trade hub CCP should introduce escalating costs to doing business there. As more orders are put up the cost to do business there goes up. IRL if you have a store in the super mega-mall you will pay more as the merchant to rent space there than you would if you put your store in the little strip mall in the boonies.
This would at first spread business to other stations in Jita and then push business outside of Jita.
In short it is a self correcting mechanism.
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HenkieBoy
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Posted - 2007.11.03 21:01:00 -
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There is a good way to clear Jita. If enough people make an alt and start shooting people in Jita they will avoid Jita in the future if the attackes keep comming.
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Methicone
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Posted - 2007.11.03 21:09:00 -
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lmae... jita sucks
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Mr McCargo
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Posted - 2007.11.03 21:18:00 -
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I don't get it, why 95% of the repliers here, do not go to Jita, and still care about whether it should be fixed or not. I myself basically live in Jita, because it's nearby to 3 other regions and is therefore an excellent spot for a trader. I really do not get what should be "fixed", because lag there ain't that big (for me) to bother me. Ok, let them fix it or not, I don't care; but people, who swear they never go to Jita, and still are concerned about the lag... Really, stop it.
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Necrosmith
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.03 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Necrosmith on 03/11/2007 21:53:49
Increase taxes in a system based on population.
To ridiculous amounts.
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Terail Zoqial
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Posted - 2007.11.03 21:58:00 -
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I have a simple fix.
Rename Jita!
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Janus Veyron
Novus Universitas
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Posted - 2007.11.03 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Khanox
Introduce low sec between empires
/signed
Excellent idea.
Stop the pirates whining about no targets, and create multiple hubs for the traders.
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Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights
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Posted - 2007.11.03 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jei''son Bladesmith on 03/11/2007 23:32:51
This is the BunnyÖ.
(\_/)
(o.o)
(> <)
This is the BunnyÖ in Jita
( \ _ / )
( ◘ ◘ ) .. ooooohhhh noooeeeesss Jitalaaaaagggged
( > . < )
Any questions? (not that I care if there are, just thought it was polite)
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.03 23:40:00 -
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When I visit empire, I LIKE one stop shopping in Jita.
Dont touch Jita. One stop shopping ftw.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Mordrake
ComNav Resources
SunStorm Dominion
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Posted - 2007.11.04 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mordrake on 04/11/2007 00:02:38
Jita is like a wonderous dream world where any want or need can be filled at a price. If I ever need or want for ANYTHING I can always be sure to find it in Jita.
It is a Mecca for all the universe to have dreams realized and the place where untold welth can be made and lost.
The scammers flock there to bait their hooks with lies to catch the lazy or trusting.
The manufacturers flock there because they can always count on the miners and producers undercutting eachother to keep stockpiles of materials from growing too large.
The speculators and traders move vast ammounts of every mod in the game to sell in Jita at low profit with high volume.
The major players in 0.0 and the plex farmers move their officer and faction mods their to where the people with Isk and the desire to buy the highest end mods in game will gladly pay.
Jita is a the most wonderful and "Alive" system in EVE... the only down side is the lag and constant spamming in local.
If anything Jita needs its own set of rules for local chat where the throng of players yelling to the masses about their contracts and items for sale are limited in the length and frequency of their wailing.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.04 00:07:00 -
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i have no problems in jita at all. even on a weekend i have barely any trouble.
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Sn0wst0rm
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.11.04 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith
Edited by: Jei''son Bladesmith on 03/11/2007 23:32:51
This is the BunnyÖ.
(\_/)
(o.o)
(> <)
This is the BunnyÖ in Jita
( \ _ / )
( ◘ ◘ ) .. ooooohhhh noooeeeesss Jitalaaaaagggged
( > . < )
Any questions? (not that I care if there are, just thought it was polite)
what? To be fair I have to comment that I rarely actually get lag in jita, surely all the people who are lagged to extremes into jita will learn that it is a place to avoid at certain times of the week and therefore not go there? It's a bit like evolution, if you don't want to get ****ed off by it, don't go there!
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Twin blade
Minmatar
The Triangle
Exa Nation
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Posted - 2007.11.04 00:43:00 -
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All Jita need's is a random titan DD maybe 2-3 time's a week every one is happy then.
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