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Bigeasy Caldari Shadow Of The Light	Posted - 2007.11.05 08:38:00 - [61] The scorpion is in fact NOT named after a bird...damn caldari. Assbackwards looking ships and assbackwards naming of said ships. Big Let them hate, so long as they fear-Caligula
Paco Paco	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:09:00 - [62] Ships having a max speed actually makes sense. The absolute maximum speed attainable in a vacuum is twice the velocity of the exhaust. That assumes the only mass being accelerated is the fuel and that no other forces are in action.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:17:00 - [63] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 05/11/2007 09:18:17 CCP killed Emperor Doriam II on the 5th July 2005. Since then, there has not been an occupant on the Amarrian throne, and information on this story-arc has been virtually non-existent. No-one knows why they killed him when they did. In December 2006, Ginger of CCP stated that the situation would be resolved by the end of 2007. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:19:00 - [64] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Danzig256k Originally by: Fswd And when you launch cruise missiles, you are firing frigate size things and still can't pop a frig with them, i always thought that was messed up, what do ya think would happen if ya fired a torpedo at a rowboat, ya get a bunch of driftwood... Or you can look at it the other way: would you use a rolled-up newspaper or a sledgehammer to kill a fly? While it might be challenging to hit said fly with a sledgehammer (tracking, which is not a problem with a guided missile), the fly is equally dead in the end. I know it's done for game balance reasons, but IRL, when you hit a frigate with a battleship gun, you're left with flotsam. At best. Same thing when you hit a VW bug with a Stinger missile. Or a cardboard box with a JDAM.
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:44:00 - [65] Edited by: Spaced Skunk on 05/11/2007 09:45:33 1. There is no sound in space (although thats probably already been said and is a weak fact to know ). 2. The 'Megathron' is the only ship name CCP bothered to make up, so we can see some biased Gallente minds their. Every other ship is named after a animal/mammal; mythology or some other historical character, entity or word. 3. Guns should not always hit, although eve likes to show that they do 4. If you throw something in space at 4 mph, it will keep going at 4 mph, unless theres an unexplaned gravitational pull. Hence optimal range/accuracy falloff is a load of RABBISH! 5. A Vagabond can sometime be thought of as a homeless person (hobo zomg), yet my first Vagabond cost me 270M! 6. EvE > WoW To Spawny, a great guy, a great laugh. Rest in peace buddy.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:52:00 - [66] Actually i believe Megathron is from Megatron My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Jack Thurner Quam Singulari	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:05:00 - [67] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Actually i believe Megathron is from Megatron After a month in QUAM, i know links shouldn't be activated! >_<
Ashaz Mindstar Technology	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:26:00 - [68] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Space ships can burn in vacuum. little known fact; That is achtually fully possible, if the hull is breached so oxygen leaks out. Could explain why the fire appears only after you get hull damage.
Alurexar Freelance Assassins	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:26:00 - [69] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Edited by: Spaced Skunk on 05/11/2007 09:45:33 1. There is no sound in space (although thats probably already been said and is a weak fact to know ). Sound is generated by your Capsule, so the Capsuler can use all his available senses while piloting his ship, read eve chronicles.
Hank Showbo Neyi Industries	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:28:00 - [70] Originally by: Alurexar Originally by: Spaced Skunk Edited by: Spaced Skunk on 05/11/2007 09:45:33 1. There is no sound in space (although thats probably already been said and is a weak fact to know ). Sound is generated by your Capsule, so the Capsuler can use all his available senses while piloting his ship, read eve chronicles. There is still no sound in space
Aries Acheron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:41:00 - [71] Originally by: Andreya Originally by: Snake Doctor 12. The actual output explosion of a 175mm antimatter round would be more than the amount of destructive power needed to tear Earth in half. im sooooo asking my GF for one of these for christmas this year Wrong. A Kilogram of Antimatter completely 100% yielded gives an output of 64 Megatons. A 175mm shell weighing around as much as a tank round will only be in the gigatons. Nowhere near enough to 'tear' earth apart, which requires a ****load to overcome gravitational binding energy. ~~~ Survive Eve! Eve Tribune
Ovno ConSyquence Amarr The Plebians	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:42:00 - [72] Edited by: Ovno ConSyquence on 05/11/2007 10:45:45 Originally by: Paco Paco Ships having a max speed actually makes sense. The absolute maximum speed attainable in a vacuum is twice the velocity of the exhaust. That assumes the only mass being accelerated is the fuel and that no other forces are in action. I'm sure thats not right, as there will always be a resultant force caused by ejecting mass from the back of the rocket even if you were only throwing drinks cans out the back by hand you would still excert a force on the ship equal to the force which you excerted on the ejected mass. (either that or I REALLY missed something when i was doing my physics degree and if so please enlighten me as to why) Proof here Of course the real speed limits in space are due to relativity at which point the force required to accelerate you goes up due to your mass increasing...
Aries Acheron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:45:00 - [73] Originally by: Verx Interis Originally by: Ekscalybur Originally by: Shakuul In EVE, ships have a maximum speed because space is in fact filled with invisible water. Why do people keep saying this as if its lunacy? Like being in a vacuum somehow grants an object the ability to travel at speeds greater than the amount of thrust its engines have. Ship in Eve space have a maximum speed, just like ships in real life do. The only advantage being in a vacuum gives is greater acceleration. In space, if you accelerate and then stop without braking, you keep going at that speed. thus in space, you can go as fast as you want by continuously accelerating. In space, you don't have a max speed except based on how much deltaV your engine has (thrust and fuel considerations). If I keep pushing an engine for a lengthy enough time at a high enough rate, it will eventually get to near the speed of light. A ship's survival of course, may be questionable unless the object is very heavilly shielded against particulate radiation and micrometeorites moving at relativistic speeds. ~~~ Survive Eve! Eve Tribune
Aries Acheron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:46:00 - [74] Originally by: Ovno ConSyquence Originally by: Paco Paco Ships having a max speed actually makes sense. The absolute maximum speed attainable in a vacuum is twice the velocity of the exhaust. That assumes the only mass being accelerated is the fuel and that no other forces are in action. I'm sure thats not right, as there will always be a resultant force caused by ejecting mass from the back of the rocket even if you were only throwing drinks cans out the back by hand you would still excert a force on the ship equal to the force which you excerted on the ejected mass. (either that or I REALLY missed something when i was doing my physics degree and if so please enlighten me as to why) Of course the real speed limits in space are due to relativity at which point the force required to accelerate you goes up due to your mass increasing... There's no limit. As long as you are thrusting, you are accellerating. Only if your engine is too weak, it may take a long time to get a high scalar speed... ~~~ Survive Eve! Eve Tribune
Rahvin Damodred The White Star Consortium	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:50:00 - [75] Snowballs eventually melt after a year in your hangar. The caldari Ibis frigate is about the same height as the Eiffel Tower in paris. Training Black Market Trading to level 4 has proven to be utterly useless. Buy orders for a Damage Control I are best placed at newbie starter locations. Niballe used to be one of the rare systems wich actually had two 3/10 plexes in it. The Bookmark Bomb was a notorius weapon in pvp. As with all overpowered weapons it eventually got nerfed. "Oh i don't PvP. I just shoot people who prevent me from carebearing"
Dire Lauthris Bridgeburners Squadron	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:51:00 - [76] Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 04/11/2007 14:33:23 The original vessel was flown into the atmosphere of Gallente prime by Yakia Tovil-Toba during the war, effectivly turning it into a meteor and obliterating part of a city. A strike so direct to the Federation left a week long window to evacuate Caldari from their homeworld without Gallente response. Wow I've wanted to know whether or not that carrier was Chimera-like for ages! Reading the chronicles it only mentions that it's a carrier. Are there any references you have that I can read? I'd really like to know more about the pre-capsuleer hulls of the ships used during that war... ------ [The Exiled]
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:57:00 - [77] Originally by: Aries Acheron Originally by: Andreya Originally by: Snake Doctor 12. The actual output explosion of a 175mm antimatter round would be more than the amount of destructive power needed to tear Earth in half. im sooooo asking my GF for one of these for christmas this year Wrong. A Kilogram of Antimatter completely 100% yielded gives an output of 64 Megatons. A 175mm shell weighing around as much as a tank round will only be in the gigatons. Nowhere near enough to 'tear' earth apart, which requires a ***load to overcome gravitational binding energy. And that's before you consider that most of the shell won't actually be anti-matter, but rather the stuff to contain the anti-matter in a magnetic field so that it won't go off prematurely. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.*
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:59:00 - [78] Originally by: Danzig256k Originally by: Fswd And when you launch cruise missiles, you are firing frigate size things and still can't pop a frig with them, i always thought that was messed up, what do ya think would happen if ya fired a torpedo at a rowboat, ya get a bunch of driftwood... That one's down to the proximity of the explosion. The "blast radius" of a missile's explosion actually represents how close it is to the target ship when it explodes. With no concussive force in a vacuum (no air, no concussion) the detonation is pretty much pure energy (or, in the case of kinetic missiles, a short-lived black hole) the proximity to the center of the blast becomes important, as an energy discharge in vacuum follows the inverse square law - double the distance, half the energy. The larger an object is, and the closer it is to the center of the detonation, the more energy it will absorb. Frigates are typically small and nimble, and thus missiles have difficulty exploding in close proximity to them. Their small surface area coupled with their (relatively) long distance from the explosion's epicenter means that frigates will absorb less of the explosion's energy than they otherwise would. Smaller, lighter missiles have the speed and guidance systems to get right up close on a frigate or even hit it, whereas cruise missiles are too heavy and ponderous to score an actual impact, and thus have to settle for going off at the closest point of approach. to follow your torpedo/rowboat example, what's really happening is that the torpedo's going off somewhere near the rowboat, but has not actually hit it because the rowboat's too small a target to actually hit easily. If the torpedo hits, then yeah that rowboat is now matchsticks, but if it goes off twenty meters off to the right and at a depth of ten meters, then the boat's might well survive, albeit rocked and damaged. All of which is just a roundabout way of justifying a very sensible game mechanic that was initially brought in to counter the fact that missiles previously DID do all their damage to all ships regardless of size, and that this was horribly overpowered. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Aries Acheron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:05:00 - [79] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Aries Acheron Originally by: Andreya Originally by: Snake Doctor 12. The actual output explosion of a 175mm antimatter round would be more than the amount of destructive power needed to tear Earth in half. im sooooo asking my GF for one of these for christmas this year Wrong. A Kilogram of Antimatter completely 100% yielded gives an output of 64 Megatons. A 175mm shell weighing around as much as a tank round will only be in the gigatons. Nowhere near enough to 'tear' earth apart, which requires a ****load to overcome gravitational binding energy. And that's before you consider that most of the shell won't actually be anti-matter, but rather the stuff to contain the anti-matter in a magnetic field so that it won't go off prematurely. Right. Not all the antiamtter will react with matter properly either. Much will be scattered and wasted, instead of reacting with focus at the target. Also, at most, 50% of the energy will hit the target, and the other 50% will be radiated out in space. Since hitting a flat surface means half the 'sphere' goes outwards. ~~~ Survive Eve! Eve Tribune
Morrow Disca Macrocosm Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:07:00 - [80] ^ Some people take this game far too seriously!
Kayleigh Lothian Minmatar KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:08:00 - [81] Edited by: Kayleigh Lothian on 05/11/2007 11:09:34 Originally by: Celestra Doxaila Originally by: SoftRevolution The Gallente ships tend to be named after gods. I looked up some of the names of ships. In Greek Mythology, Thanatos is the child of Erebus and Nyx. Erebus and Nyx are also brother and sister. Again, from omgrawr Quote: Celestra Doxaila > hmm, so in greek mythology, Thanatos is the son of Nyx and Erebus Celestra Doxaila > guess they were right to make the Nyx a "Mother" ship Celestra Doxaila > eh, get it? ... Celestra Doxaila > ew, it also says that Nyx and Erebus were brother and sister Celestra Doxaila > guess thats why Thanatos is a bit lopsided Also Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro As well as most of the Caldari ships in the game, two Minmatar ships are named after birds: Huginn & Muninn, Odin's ravens. True, the Caldari got the T1 Raven and we got the named ones :P (Not my joke initially but from SHC) ----------------------
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:09:00 - [82] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 05/11/2007 09:18:17 CCP killed Emperor Doriam II on the 5th July 2005. Since then, there has not been an occupant on the Amarrian throne, and information on this story-arc has been virtually non-existent. No-one knows why they killed him when they did. In December 2006, Ginger of CCP stated that the situation would be resolved by the end of 2007. Don't hold your breath. They've stopped caring about Amarr lock, stock, and barrel.
Aries Acheron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:09:00 - [83] Originally by: Morrow Disca ^ Some people take this game far too seriously! But it's fun to know silly things that don't matter about internet spaceships (or physics as a whole for us engineer types) ~~~ Survive Eve! Eve Tribune
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:15:00 - [84] Edited by: Splagada on 05/11/2007 11:17:06 Edited by: Splagada on 05/11/2007 11:16:10 naglfar, phoon and cyclones should be only spinning ships. lack of symmetry in the total engine thrust force x distance to mass center creates rotational movement putting on a MWD on this should make them whistle from the spin :D add a gun, and you have a nice sprinkler for the space grass acceleration from a frigate MWD, with most common materials, should turn it completely inside out from the crazy acceleration burst forgot where that was written but the acceleration the ships structure (and pilot) get is in the 1000gs thats archangel boats from Pax (reference to Endymion - Dan simmons ) :p ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Babel Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:44:00 - [85] Mamouna constellation in Derelik seems to be named after a Bryan Ferry album .... URIEL Recruiting
Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:09:00 - [86] Originally by: Spaced Skunk 4. If you throw something in space at 4 mph, it will keep going at 4 mph, unless theres an unexplaned gravitational pull. Hence optimal range/accuracy falloff is a load of RABBISH! For sure it will hold it's energy and velocity but the accuracy of your tracking system will fail for to fast or to far away objects. Tracking = combination of flexebility of the turrets + calculation of the aproximated taget movement combined with your movement parameters. So normaly if a smart pilot changes his flight direction very fast and very often with randomly generated changes no tracking system should ever be posible to track him ;). It's like in bad movies where somebody shots with an UZI while driving with one hand at 200km/h and hitting the wheel of the following car == IMPOSIBLE except very very VERY much lucky hits
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:11:00 - [87] Whenever a ship exceeds an acceleration of 294 m/s^2 (30G, I'm sure nano-ships accelerate even faster than this), aortal pull is guarenteed, resulting in very quick death for everybody aboard. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Raydn James CAD Inc. Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:20:00 - [88] Switching from PvP to carebearing... The Mackinaw is an actuall Coast Guard Cutter in the Detroit, MI area. It's and ice breaker (and amongst boaters, quite famous) used to keep the freighter channels clear in the great lakes once winter hits. I'd actually be interested if this was just an amazing coincidence or if CCP knew that and thus named the Ice Exhumer after it.... Devs?
Oniko Sengir Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:28:00 - [89] Originally by: Dire Lauthris Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 04/11/2007 14:33:23 The original vessel was flown into the atmosphere of Gallente prime by Yakia Tovil-Toba during the war, effectivly turning it into a meteor and obliterating part of a city. A strike so direct to the Federation left a week long window to evacuate Caldari from their homeworld without Gallente response. Wow I've wanted to know whether or not that carrier was Chimera-like for ages! Reading the chronicles it only mentions that it's a carrier. Are there any references you have that I can read? I'd really like to know more about the pre-capsuleer hulls of the ships used during that war... "The Chimera's design is based upon the Kairiola, a vessel holding tremendous historical significance for the Caldari. Initially a water freighter, the Kairiola was refitted in the days of the Gallente-Caldari war to act as a fighter carrier during the orbital bombardment of Caldari Prime. It was most famously flown by the legendary Admiral Yakia Tovil-Toba directly into Gallente Prime's atmosphere, where it fragmented and struck several key locations on the planet. This event, where the good Admiral gave his life, marked the culmination of a week's concentrated campaign of distraction which enabled the Caldari to evacuate their people from their besieged home planet. Where the Chimera roams, the Caldari remember." The Chimera's description tab. http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/ships/carriers/caldari/23915.asp
Dire Lauthris Bridgeburners Squadron	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:02:00 - [90] Originally by: Oniko Sengir The Chimera's description tab. http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/ships/carriers/caldari/23915.asp Oh I R nub. Had one for months, never read that. o/ Oniko ------ [The Exiled]

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