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Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:02:00 - [91] Originally by: syphurous I dont know how many of you are all alts, friends or just trolling but apparently enough care to call me names and argue for something that has been said is detrimental to Eve by a Dev. The cans in belts served a purpose, alot currently dont and they are working on some method of dealing with them because they are a problem. For now its impossible to tell which ones are needed, and which ones are now just junk because of the sheer number. While can art serves no immediate purpose and its obvious that these cans could be culled with very little loss if any. If its something thats meant to be visited, such as art, or cemeterys and it became popular, then it wouldn't be an out of the way system anymore would it, it would become a hub ( I'm not talking jita / trade ). If it didn't become popular, if it wasn't beneficial, then why does it need to exist ? Take it to Sisi. Perhaps you could enjoy the game for once, instead of whining about lag? Though I bet it must be harsh dealing with it in empire everyday. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:06:00 - [92] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Originally by: syphurous I dont know how many of you are all alts, friends or just trolling but apparently enough care to call me names and argue for something that has been said is detrimental to Eve by a Dev. The cans in belts served a purpose, alot currently dont and they are working on some method of dealing with them because they are a problem. For now its impossible to tell which ones are needed, and which ones are now just junk because of the sheer number. While can art serves no immediate purpose and its obvious that these cans could be culled with very little loss if any. If its something thats meant to be visited, such as art, or cemeterys and it became popular, then it wouldn't be an out of the way system anymore would it, it would become a hub ( I'm not talking jita / trade ). If it didn't become popular, if it wasn't beneficial, then why does it need to exist ? Take it to Sisi. Perhaps you could enjoy the game for once, instead of whining about lag? Though I bet it must be harsh dealing with it in empire everyday. my alt is in jita right now without any lag... well back to nox trading Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:09:00 - [93] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Originally by: syphurous I dont know how many of you are all alts, friends or just trolling but apparently enough care to call me names and argue for something that has been said is detrimental to Eve by a Dev. The cans in belts served a purpose, alot currently dont and they are working on some method of dealing with them because they are a problem. For now its impossible to tell which ones are needed, and which ones are now just junk because of the sheer number. While can art serves no immediate purpose and its obvious that these cans could be culled with very little loss if any. If its something thats meant to be visited, such as art, or cemeterys and it became popular, then it wouldn't be an out of the way system anymore would it, it would become a hub ( I'm not talking jita / trade ). If it didn't become popular, if it wasn't beneficial, then why does it need to exist ? Take it to Sisi. Perhaps you could enjoy the game for once, instead of whining about lag? Though I bet it must be harsh dealing with it in empire everyday. my alt is in jita right now without any lag... well back to nox trading Once ccp introduces expiring cans (if they do) this will be a moot point. Until then do whatever you want because there is nothing anyone can do to stop you. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:10:00 - [94] Originally by: Selene D'Celeste And you have contributed exactly what to the eve universe? I've helped many a n00b get his feet, and answered where the hell the villards can be found more than a hundred times. I know of quite a few players who wouldn't have stuck around had they not been given the nudge they needed. Most of these n00bs have joined corps and moved on and continue to play. Had no one lended them a hand and shown them the errors they had been making I'm sure many a corp would be low in members. I've filled detailed bug reports when I've found them and tried to keep them up to date. What exactly have you contributed what to the eve universe? Originally by: Selene D'Celeste So just give it a rest and let people enjoy it. You know, I had, then people started referencing my posts, trying to troll things up again. Nothing like a bit of ~~civil~~ debate to get the blood flowing huh ? I like the all the personaly attacks, but this hardly has much to do with the discussion, now does it ? ___ All Ur Salvage R Belong 2 Me !
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:16:00 - [95] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Perhaps you could enjoy the game for once, instead of whining about lag? Though I bet it must be harsh dealing with it in empire everyday. To be honest, I mainly post on the forums during quiet times at work and downtime when nothing else has taken my interest. I wouldn't call it whining, especially not at the level most of the forums posters create replys with. Also, never really been affected by lag, desync yes, lag, no. I'd hate to suffer from it, which is why I have voiced my opinions, and concerns, even added an alternative, rare amongst many posts. ___ All Ur Salvage R Belong 2 Me !
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:18:00 - [96] Edited by: Admiral Pelleon on 15/11/2007 03:18:21 Sure it does, those who spend their lives living in places like Motsu, salia, etc (you) will complain alot more than those who live out in the middle of nowhere (me). For me, the answer is easy, lag is non-existent if you stay out of the 10 or so systems where it's always awful due to population. Maybe you'd be a better judge of that node's performance than he is. But from what I gather, it's a backwater place that doesn't see any load. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:21:00 - [97] I think I'm starting to sound like an ass so I apologize. On to more important things to argue about. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
Podee Something Squishy	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:44:00 - [98] Do me a favour. I want a seperate can for each one of my corpses The thread that never was.
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.15 03:46:00 - [99] Originally by: Podee I want a seperate can for each one of my corpses :P ___ All Ur Salvage R Belong 2 Me !
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2007.11.15 09:39:00 - [100] Originally by: syphurous There are many other ways to be creative in Eve, CCP Prism X even suggests taking this sort of thing to Sisi where it wont inpact everyone playing on Tranquility. The problem here is that regular can art is "just" empty cans that are mere building blocks. This cemetery uses actual corpses - unless there is a way to transfer items from Tranquility to Singularity, it'll be pointless to do it on Sisi. I'd think the best way would be some sort of new container, surely there's a way to create objects in the database that won't need as much resources as a regular can. -------------------------------------------------- I'm a rich person. How I know? I can afford to be a miner.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.11.15 10:48:00 - [101] Originally by: syphurous Continuing his arguement now with dev "backup". Ok. Apparently you're right. But actions speak louder than words, and hence CCP, CCP Prysm X, and you, by proxy, don't have a leg to stand on. - People have been asking literally for years for a time-to-live timer to be put on GSCs. Why? Because it's an eye sore. Let alone the render lag it creates when you warp to a belt with tons of cans in it. It also can effect gameplay when you're trying to navigate by double clicking in space and accidently click a can instead. Now a CCP rep admits that it has negative effects on the database? Um... ok. So, "can art", which might be comprised of several hundred cans is bad for the database but the MILLIONS of abandoned cans out there aren't? Makes no logical sense. - There have been other suggestions put forth by players to address lag (need for speed?) that have apparently been ignored. One such is asking for the auto market refresh to be made an option. Try selling crap in Jita. Every time you sell something with the market panel up, you have no option but to wait for that to refresh before continuing on to the next item. One of the best ways of improving a DB's performance is to get rid of needless queries. Seems like an obvious target but yet no action. - There's lag inducing things that no one thinks about because they don't see it. Items in other peoples station hangers, is one. You dock at Jita 4-4, followed directly by me. You have thousands of items in your hanger in tons of GSCs, all of which must be queried and sent to you before the database can get to querying my stuff and sending it to me. You're slowing me down by being a pack rat. All of these items have to be sent to your client including all the disimilar properties so your items list columns can be populated. Compared to 100-200 cans in space, all of which have exactly the same properties with the exception of 1 or 2 for description and owner tags. ---- But whatever. You're right because a CCP rep has complained about it and has a script he can't even remember when he made (that's how high priority it is) and maybe it will be used some day to clean up all those abandoned cans... Here's a football bat to go with the logic of all this. God forbid someone does something creative that might cause lag when we have to live with the remnants of thousands of lazy people which definately does cause lag. Sure makes the "sandbox" feel free and open. More and more it's just a sandbox full of cat turds. And it really is depressing that as soon as someone does something creative or suggests something new, someone always has to come along and scream, "OMG u lag meh!". ---- CCP needs to get their act together and address these things in a clearly defined way. Simply dropping vague comments into threads hinting that something is lag inducing doesn't cut it. What about the millions of abandoned noob ships? What about the millions of abandoned shuttles? What about the millions of abandoned drones? What about the millions of player corpses? What about the millions of abandoned GSCs at belts, planets, or moon "claims". All things left in the game by players playing the game "by the rules". So is there rules about leaving things in space or isn't there? The only one I know of that is somewhat rule-like is no spamming cans at gates. Creates jump-in lag = exploit. ---- So CCP needs to either ** or get off the pot on these things. And you should stop crapping on people's ideas simply because you feel you have the unbroachable moral highground. It's CCP's place to say, "That's lag inducing, don't do it*" quickly followed by some game mechanic to make it no longer possible. Simply dropping hints that it might be a bad thing is BS and does nothing positive in regards to one's sense of freedom in our supposed sandbox. /soapbox* ---- WSSH
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:06:00 - [102] Originally by: Roy Batty68 What about the millions of abandoned noob ships? What about the millions of abandoned shuttles? What about the millions of abandoned drones? What about the millions of player corpses? What about the millions of abandoned GSCs at belts, planets, or moon "claims". I believe all but the last have a timer before they dissapear. ;) ___ All Ur Salvage R Belong 2 Me !
Calamity Jali JellyBeans	Posted - 2007.11.15 13:01:00 - [103] I see me! Thats the only one of those I believe, Killed by a friend when my son was in charge of her for the laugh!
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.11.15 22:59:00 - [104] Originally by: Podee Do me a favour. I want a seperate can for each one of my corpses that'll cost you. i'm not made of ISK you know, contact me ingame and we'll discuss something. Originally by: Kirren D'marr I've got a handful of corpses I picked up in my travels, usually poor souls found floating outside a station. Do you have a preferred location where these can be contracted to you? Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst Awesome idea. Again, how can corpses be donated to you? Can you accept them at a hub (Amarr/Jita) or only somewhere closer? i can collect from any NPC station but i would prefer the contracts to be made in empire. Amarr/Jita is fine. sypherous: please visit Molea and see what i mean by the fact its lag free. Azia Burgi http://azia.geekandproud.co.uk BP Profit Calculator
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:01:00 - [105] Edited by: sableye on 16/11/2007 00:04:55 Originally by: syphurous Originally by: Roy Batty68 What about the millions of abandoned noob ships? What about the millions of abandoned shuttles? What about the millions of abandoned drones? What about the millions of player corpses? What about the millions of abandoned GSCs at belts, planets, or moon "claims". I believe all but the last have a timer before they disappear. ;) noob ships and shuttles don't defiantly I still lose one;s today occasional I dumped years ago drones I'm not sure of they never used to, but some say they get moved to center of sun these days at downtime. corpses I'm not sureof either but I've seen some floating for days in past but yer I guess these possibly do disappear. although I do think shuttles ect won't be as bad as belts full of cans ect cause if its in safe spot because you never visit it so dastbase doesn't really do any extra work I don't think, but a belt full of cansd has to be loaded and quired. Join The Fight With Promo Today
Kryton Bitterstar	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:16:00 - [106] im new, and this is a really really really dumb idea. im thinking about making it my career in this game of sacrificing titans if it meant taking out entire can art displays in one blow.
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:17:00 - [107] Really cool idea Always nice to see someone do something new. Player made content ftw - allowing players to add to the immersion of the game is one of the ways eve is dynamic. Would be cool if it could be memorialised in some of the fiction or news or something. __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.16 01:00:00 - [108] Do you by any chance have my corpse? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Darq Assassin Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.16 04:00:00 - [109] I just stopped by the cemetery, very cool
mamolian Madhatters Inc. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.11.16 11:07:00 - [110] Edited by: mamolian on 16/11/2007 11:07:57 Originally by: syphurous Originally by: Roy Batty68 stuff By your "assumption" I could quite happily got to Jita 4 and do the same thing. To quote a famous reviewer talking about the game Portal.. "If you dont like this Idea.. then your STUPID!" I'm Almost tempted to bring a few thousand corpses over that way and help add to the graveyard :) -------------------------------
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.11.16 11:32:00 - [111] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Do you by any chance have my corpse? according to my database i haven't got your corpse yet, jenny. Originally by: mamolian To quote a famous reviewer talking about the game Portal.. "If you dont like this Idea.. then your STUPID!" Wink I'm Almost tempted to bring a few thousand corpses over that way and help add to the graveyard :) be my guest Azia Burgi http://azia.geekandproud.co.uk BP Profit Calculator

CCP Prism X	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:10:00 - [112] Throws an asterisk filled fit Hmmm.. Anchoring Fee Monthly Anchor Maintenance Bills Self-Destructing cans... ... Cans that turn into an annoying guy named Milton, who collects stamps and bounty hunts on the side, and hunt their owners until the end of days.. Four sounds good. ~ Prism X EvE Quafe-Guzzling Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006.

Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:37:00 - [113] Originally by: CCP Prism X Throws an asterisk filled fit Hmmm.. Anchoring Fee Monthly Anchor Maintenance Bills Self-Destructing cans... ... Cans that turn into an annoying guy named Milton, who collects stamps and bounty hunts on the side, and hunt their owners until the end of days.. Four sounds good. if you really want to nerf secure cans make the hacking skill worthwhile and allow us to hack the cans to unanchor them. Azia Burgi http://azia.geekandproud.co.uk BP Profit Calculator
Nick Curso Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:40:00 - [114] the amount of times ive died and im not there!
Alty McAltypants	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:42:00 - [115] Originally by: Nick Curso the amount of times ive died and im not there! Corpse desynch is a beatch, ain't it
Kastar Memphis Technologies Intergalactic Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:53:00 - [116] Alt posts are worse. -----------------------------------------------
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:00:00 - [117] Edited by: Azia Burgi on 16/11/2007 17:03:18 Edited by: Azia Burgi on 16/11/2007 17:02:07 Edited by: Azia Burgi on 16/11/2007 17:01:14 Added 13 new corpses to the cemetery today. Thanks to everyone that has donated corpses today, i haven't got round to collecting them yet. You can search the database here: http://aziaburgi.brinkster.net/cemetry/results.aspx The search now searches for part names rather than returning exact matches only. I'm still working on making a prettier version of the site but again with my extremely pitiful bandwidth i'm limited in what i can do with it. edit: having issues making links on the forum again. Azia Burgi http://azia.geekandproud.co.uk BP Profit Calculator
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:03:00 - [118] Under the arc of a weather stain boards Ancient goblins, and warlords, Come out the ground, not making a sound, The smell of death is all around, And the night when the cold wind blows No one cares, nobody knows. I don't want to be buried in an Eve sematary I don't want to live my life again, I don't want to be buried in an Eve sematary I don't want to live my life again. (With apologies to The Ramones!)
Lazarann Ideal Machine Nemesis Rising	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:08:00 - [119] Definitely one of the more original things I've ever seen. Awesome idea.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.11.17 14:51:00 - [120] keep it up ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem

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