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Scaara Koraka
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.15 21:55:00 -
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So not really a question but Im trying to get into station trading and have some spreadsheets for it but they dont seem to be working or anything, Could someone help me out that has good knoweledge of google doc's spreadsheets, Thanks very much.
(It isnt the normal station trading either its slightly different.) |
Samroski
Games Inc.
145
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Posted - 2013.02.23 13:09:00 -
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Goe Rilla wrote:Samroski wrote:Goe Rilla wrote:Hello, a question regarding a specific service I'd like to start as a thread on this part of the forums.
Basically I make art in pen drawings and ink IRL, and devoting most of time to it.
I play Eve very casually and am making barely enough RL money to keep my subscription up, as I LOVE playing this game, but I however do not have any RL time to invest in making the isk I need ingame.
Since most of my time is dedicated in making art and my curent job, I would like to propose the eve community an exchange for my artworks into ingame isk so I can keep paying for items ingame and paying my sub.
I'd like to open a thread for that, so would I be allowed to do so ?
Thank you. Player generated content in Eve is always welcome. Personally I think there is need for your service. The correct place to advertise your service is the Sell Orders forum. This is where you set up shop. Before you do that, it would be a very good idea to post your plan for this service in Market Discussions (MD). The MD community is likely to give you some useful advice on how to go ahead with the service. Do not be discouraged by a bit of trolling after you post, as this is how Eve forums are. As a start: I would like to commission you to design my corp logo. How about 50m advance (after discussing the concept), and 50m on successful completion of the project? If interested please Eve mail me. Evemail sent, we can talk live ingame whenever you're on next and i'll show you my skills and artwork. Cheers
For the sake of posterity: Mr. Goe Rilla took 50m and ran. Is not contactable. Never showed me any of his work either.
Happiness is a warm gun. |
Evan Swaggins
Mining Industry Neutral Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2013.03.21 08:59:00 -
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I'm brand new to Eve, what captured my interest was simply the general banter on PCGamer, I decided to look into it further and found out there is great depth and steeped history within this game. I've started to mine with my character, I really don't know anything but the basics but I've been reading over the forums a bit and saw people talk about IPO's/Shares etc etc, I even see that my corporation has some shares. I'm a part time investor IRL, and have been for 3-4 years now. How in-depth does the market in Eve get? I see there are moving averages and whatnot, but is there an actual/physical stockmarket? Or it is just "plainly" trading "commodities" ? (ships/plans etc etc).
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
96
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Posted - 2013.03.22 14:01:00 -
[94] - Quote
Evan Swaggins wrote:I'm brand new to Eve, what captured my interest was simply the general banter on PCGamer, I decided to look into it further and found out there is great depth and steeped history within this game. I've started to mine with my character, I really don't know anything but the basics but I've been reading over the forums a bit and saw people talk about IPO's/Shares etc etc, I even see that my corporation has some shares. I'm a part time investor IRL, and have been for 3-4 years now. How in-depth does the market in Eve get? I see there are moving averages and whatnot, but is there an actual/physical stockmarket? Or it is just "plainly" trading "commodities" ? (ships/plans etc etc).
No idea how active the stock market in EVE is, but it lacks an ingame tool for decent more complex exchanges, thats for sure.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Market_resources#Stock_Exchange, find some out of game exchanges on the resource page of this thread. |
Samroski
Games Inc.
177
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Posted - 2013.03.27 10:07:00 -
[95] - Quote
Evan Swaggins wrote:I'm brand new to Eve, what captured my interest was simply the general banter on PCGamer, I decided to look into it further and found out there is great depth and steeped history within this game. I've started to mine with my character, I really don't know anything but the basics but I've been reading over the forums a bit and saw people talk about IPO's/Shares etc etc, I even see that my corporation has some shares. I'm a part time investor IRL, and have been for 3-4 years now. How in-depth does the market in Eve get? I see there are moving averages and whatnot, but is there an actual/physical stockmarket? Or it is just "plainly" trading "commodities" ? (ships/plans etc etc).
There is no in-game stock market. The "stock market", generally known as the "Secondary Market" is all run via the forums. As a new player you are unlikely to have the money to invest in this, and I would strongly advise to stay away from it till you have hung around the forums for a while and figure out yourself what is going on (there is significant chance of being scammed).
The corporate shares in-game that you found, may be used to hand out dividends. Thus if a corp has 1000 shares and you have 100, when the CEO sends out dividends (via the corp window) you will automatically receive 10% of the money. Theoretically this works well. Practically the issue is that people become inactive or leave the game with the shares still with them. This means that the corp dividend gets sent to an inactive account, and the money is lost (forever). Thus there are few practical uses of these shares, and there has been a demand for the last many years for CCP to sort shares out.
I suggest sticking with the in-game market to start with, which is totally player driven and great fun, and basically involves trading commodities via the market and contracts. Get used to looking at the information in the market details for all the items that you buy/use. Best of luck!
Happiness is a warm gun, mama. |
XNordak BalremX
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.04.03 16:02:00 -
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I'm trying to find current up to date plex prices in all major hubs, unable to get ingame |
Samroski
Games Inc.
179
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Posted - 2013.04.03 17:39:00 -
[97] - Quote
XNordak BalremX wrote:I'm trying to find current up to date plex prices in all major hubs, unable to get ingame
In-game you can only see the market of the region you are in.
The ways around this:
1. Ask in a channel or corp/alliance chat. Players in other regions can help you.
2. Have alts in other regions to check prices.
3. Use eve-central or other such out of game services. Here is the current plex info at eve-central.
Happiness is a warm gun, mama. |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
97
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:57:00 -
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XNordak BalremX wrote:I'm trying to find current up to date plex prices in all major hubs, unable to get ingame
Try the Price_Check channel ingame.
Then you have PLEX prices from all over EVE.
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Laurence C
Raven's Flight Oriental Trading Company
Nulli Tertius
0
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Posted - 2013.04.05 17:55:00 -
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Hey Guys I am going to post my daily update of my market and how I do it in detail. I am looking for ways to cut down on travel time, and also if only taking say smaller loads is worth it or if I should wait for full cargo holds. So here it is.
3 Characters:
1x Jita trader (buy orders) 67 possible orders
1x Amarr trader (Sell Orders) 27 possible orders
1x Rens Trader ( Sell Orders)17 possible orders
I will transport every day no matter what I have whether its one stack of 50 or a full Mammoth cargo hold.
I have 3 bil in capital.
I calculate profit between Jita and Amarr. (they are the closest)
then I move my products there with Jita char.
Then before I place anything I then cross check Amarr with Rens
If Rens has better profits then Amarr I save it and make a trip out to rens at the very end. The trip is done with 2 characters if needed
at that point as I do not make as many trips to Rens. Maybe once every 2 days.
The rest gets placed in Amarr
And I rinse and repeat .
*I also play the 0.01 game and have been getting into market manip as well lately.
So please tear what I have apart. I need ideas on what I should do via trade route wise and operation wise.
Lastly when I had 100mil which was my starting capital I made 1 billion in under a week. Now I have issue pushing 20 mil a day. Any ideas?. |
Laurence C
Raven's Flight Oriental Trading Company
Nulli Tertius
0
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Posted - 2013.04.05 18:00:00 -
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Amarr Citizen 155 wrote:Just an FYI to the rest of the clever guys who post on MD, this thread on the new forums is a repost of the original thread created by me in December 2008 in response to an influx of stupid threads asking simple questions. The dev that recreated this thread probably didn't do it to "get us to do his work of advising players on how to play the game" but instead to move a sticked thread from the old forum to the new one.
If the thread is now unnecessary then so be it, but sometimes clever people with clever remarks end up being everything but.
/me waves his Jedi finger
This isn't the CCP conspiracy you're looking for.
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hehe sounds like someone is sad his forum post wasnt as sucessful. Dont take credit on someone elses work. Good Job on giving us a place to throw around some ideas.
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Rhivre
TarNec
36
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Posted - 2013.04.05 18:11:00 -
[101] - Quote
Maybe you need to move up a size in your hauler, a mammoth doesn't carry a whole lot, and once you start moving higher value cargos, the T1 industrials are risky to ship around, especially on the Jita-Amarr pipe.
It may be that you need to scale up your operations, the things you were selling when you had 100m isk may not have the daily volume to make you the same margin at your current capital level. Are you scaling up the amount you have involved in buy/sells at any one time?
I usually run fairly close to the limit of my isk, with it being tied up either in buys or sells, as liquid isk is not earning me anything.
Finally, Rens-Amarr is one hell of a long way. I would consider using your Rens trader to look at Hek as well, its 6 jumps between the two hubs :) |
Royal Hammer
Wormbro
Ocularis Inferno
6
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Posted - 2013.04.17 05:03:00 -
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Question: Is there any way to see how long a specific buy order has been up? I can see how long since my last modify order, but I'm not sure how to view the age of the order. I think some of my buy orders aren't moving as quickly as I like, and I'd want to identify them and replace them with new items that move a bit faster. Is there any way to view this in-game? Failing that, do any utilities have this feature? I've used Elinor, and I just started using EVE Mentat, if that helps. |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
100
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Posted - 2013.04.17 18:03:00 -
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Royal Hammer wrote:Question: Is there any way to see how long a specific buy order has been up? I can see how long since my last modify order, but I'm not sure how to view the age of the order. I think some of my buy orders aren't moving as quickly as I like, and I'd want to identify them and replace them with new items that move a bit faster. Is there any way to view this in-game? Failing that, do any utilities have this feature? I've used Elinor, and I just started using EVE Mentat, if that helps.
Have not found apps yet that do this. Have until now done this in Excel.
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Jackson Erata
Real Life Super Heros Inc.
Caped Vigilantes
2
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:07:00 -
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Sorry if this question has been asked before, but 5 pages of questions and answers is a bit much for me to read through :P
My question is this: I'm mining in lowsec and I've built up a nice pile of kernite. My corp has an ore buyback that takes about 10% off the market value so the corp makes some cash. Reasonable.
Now, I'm wondering whether it's actually better for me to be bringing my ore to market rather than contracting it to my corp rep for a slightly discounted rate. I realize that there is the possibility that my ores won't get bought, but does that risk outweigh the ISK I'm losing for my ores? |
Dwen Hansen
Books and Things
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 22:16:00 -
[105] - Quote
Jackson Erata wrote:Sorry if this question has been asked before, but 5 pages of questions and answers is a bit much for me to read through :P
My question is this: I'm mining in lowsec and I've built up a nice pile of kernite. My corp has an ore buyback that takes about 10% off the market value so the corp makes some cash. Reasonable.
Now, I'm wondering whether it's actually better for me to be bringing my ore to market rather than contracting it to my corp rep for a slightly discounted rate. I realize that there is the possibility that my ores won't get bought, but does that risk outweigh the ISK I'm losing for my ores?
IF you refine the ore into minerals with high skills then you will earn more iskies. Minerals are the heart of EVE so they sell extremely well |
Jackson Erata
Real Life Super Heros Inc.
Caped Vigilantes
2
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:50:00 -
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Ok! I now have a goal to work towards! |
Arin Archer
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:07:00 -
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I also apologize if this has been answered before.
EVE is a merciless game. Fraud and everything else is allowed.
Regarding the market. I have to question why the following two transactions are as they are.
1. When you buy an item in the market, you can pay more than the lowest bidder but it still sells goods from the lowest seller's stock. CCP just basically takes the extra ISK you paid and no one gets it.
2. When selling. You enter a selling price below the lowest bid. The highest bid gets your items at the cost they bid, but you are still only given whatever you bid for the item.
Why do this? Why screw the player out of ISK? First, It almost seems unethical on CCP's part, basically screwing buyers and sellers out of ISK. This isn't a player swindle, it's a game function controlled by CCP, which costs players ISK usually due to typos on a sale entry when there's perfectly valid goods on the market for sale.
If they're going to allow this, then when I forget the extra zero on my sell/change order, give the sale to that crazy pilot that put in a bid for way below market, not the highest bidder, unless you're going to pay out the ISK to the seller.
It may seem like whining (I'm sure that's the response I'll get) but two fun days of working the markets were wiped out from a single typo which, while still would have been painful selling to highest bidder at 5% loss, wouldn't been nearly as bad as selling something at a 90% below market value and a 100M ISK loss, and that same person still being charged what they bid for the item even though I didn't receive the ISK...what? That seems like CCP is taking ISK from players without an equal transaction minus the broker fees and taxes..
I'm all for fraud and rackets, but this seems more like a functional error due to typo that really doesn't need to be penalized when there are market orders sitting there at higher prices in the same station you're sitting in. If you're going to screw the players out of isk (both buyers and sellers by mysteriously sucking ISK out of the game due to data entry errors where no one but CCP gets the ISK. Feel free to correct me as well if my interpretation of what's happening to the mysteriously disappearing ISK isn't correct.
So I guess my question is, has this been addressed and/or justified? It seems like EVE is ruthless enough without taking additional ISK from pilots when there's a perfectly good market order sitting there that gets filled anyway. Think of the stock market. Sell a share of Apple for .01, you don't get .01, you get ~450.00 because that was the lowest bid and both parties get the correct goods/ISK. Same with higher than lowest big. buy a share of Apple for 1000.00, you get it for $455.00 because that's the lowest ask price. They don't take your 1000.00 and give the seller 450.00 for the share. |
Adunh Slavy
762
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:13:00 -
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Arin Archer wrote:
Why do this?
Because this part of the market interface is dumb and the NPC brokers are idiots. Add to that, too many e-peen strokers think that dumb things like this make Eve harder and more of an elite game. |
Arin Archer
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:16:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Arin Archer wrote:
Why do this?
Because this part of the market interface is dumb and the NPC brokers are idiots. Add to that, too many e-peen strokers think that dumb things like this make Eve harder and more of an elite game.
Shame on CCP if that's the case. IT doesn't make anything harder, it causes misery for a pilot when the market order is sitting there to be filled. It's CCP screwing a player over, not another player. |
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
122
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Posted - 2013.05.15 18:55:00 -
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"When you buy an item in the market, you can pay more than the lowest bidder but it still sells goods from the lowest seller's stock. CCP just basically takes the extra ISK you paid and no one gets it. "
is incorrect.
If you want to pay 100m for a rifter, it gives me the 100m, if mine is the top sell order.
"When selling. You enter a selling price below the lowest bid. The highest bid gets your items at the cost they bid, but you are still only given whatever you bid for the item."
If you sell to me a rifter for 10 isk, it takes 10 isk from me, and gives you a rifter.
So, CCP are not taking anything apart from the fees. |
Trakki Variam
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 00:14:00 -
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Do corporation standings affect the transaction and sales taxes? For example, if I have no standing with Caldari Navy and my corporation has very good standings, does that still decrease the transaction tax, or does it need to be personal standings? |
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
122
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Posted - 2013.05.17 01:29:00 -
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To the best of my knowledge, it is personal standing only |
Sooner Jetta
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.27 02:21:00 -
[113] - Quote
If I want to invest in a corp or a bank, etc, after just starting, can I make a small investment of 1 million ISK? |
Samroski
Games Inc.
The Night Crew Alliance
225
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Posted - 2013.06.01 18:42:00 -
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Sooner Jetta wrote:If I want to invest in a corp or a bank, etc, after just starting, can I make a small investment of 1 million ISK?
I cannot entirely understand your question.
1. There are no official banks in Eve. There used to be some player owned banks- that ended up being massive scams. The only relatively trustworthy "bank" in eve nowadays afaik is the one run by a character called Grendell. I do not think he accepts small investments. You'd probably need at least 1 billion to invest in this bank.
2. There are some corps in which you can buy shares, or invest in. These are generally full of risk, and many such corps have ended up being scams.
My suggestion would be to try and invest this 1m yourself. The returns on your 1m, if invested with a corp or bank, would be like 2-3%, whereas you should be able to get much better margins when investing yourself.
When you have 10 billion or more to invest, a relatively low interest like 2-3% may make more sense, as even this tiny percentage will be a significant amount of money.
Happiness is a warm gun, mama. |
Bael Gar
Russian SOBR
SOLAR FLEET
17
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:19:00 -
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There are some issue with expired courier contracts.
Why we cannot refuse or delete expired courier contracts ? At least why these contracts shows as "Required Attention" as long as they already NOT require any attention?
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Samroski
Games Inc.
The Night Crew Alliance
285
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Posted - 2013.08.07 14:21:00 -
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Bael Gar wrote:There are some issue with expired courier contracts.
Why we cannot refuse or delete expired courier contracts ? At least why these contracts shows as "Required Attention" as long as they already NOT require any attention?
The way the game is, you need to press the DELETE button at the bottom of the expired contract window, and then it will not need any further attention.
Contracts do not work like market orders. Market orders will disappear when the specified duration is over, but for some reason contracts will need to be deleted. The contracts system afaik is an older mechanism, and may have some associated issues. Also, if you're doing a courier contract, and it gets expired, it makes sense to bring it to your attention, so you can get the stuff transported another way.
I'm bothered with this as well at times, and there could simply be a check button in the market settings: Delete expired contracts automatically, which could solve this 'issue'.
Any colour you like. |
Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
79
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:05:00 -
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Question about Market spreadsheeting:
Is there is an API, official or trusted, that will let me import all the names and ID's of items that can be traded on the market in EVE? The goal would then be to use that data together with the eve-central API to set-up an all-covering spreadsheet that doesn't require manually typing all the item names and looking up their IDs.
I've looked through the EVE Api's but did not find anything like it. |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
137
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:10:00 -
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Seraph Castillon wrote:Question about Market spreadsheeting:
Is there is an API, official or trusted, that will let me import all the names and ID's of items that can be traded on the market in EVE? The goal would then be to use that data together with the eve-central API to set-up an all-covering spreadsheet that doesn't require manually typing all the item names and looking up their IDs.
I've looked through the EVE Api's but did not find anything like it.
I thought it was not in the API, but in a DATA dump... its on EVE files somewhere.
http://community.eveonline.com/community/fansites/toolkit/ |
Denis Seegulls
Seagull Trading Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.09.05 05:40:00 -
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So, I'm somewhat new at this economy end since I went from warfare to manufacturing. I am a bit misconstrued at the mechanics. Manufacturing something, in theory, is supposed to be cheaper than what is readily available correct?
If so then here is my question. I have sat for about one hour creating spreadsheets from blueprints on various items in this format:
Item Lowest Market Value Amount(adding how much I need multiplied to lowest market value).
--Now that I think about it, I should probably estimate it to a median price, but nevertheless--
The value on manufacturing is highly overpriced in relation to readily available goods.
For example, according to my skills, to make Tungsten Charge L (x100) it costs me 24,019.35 ISK. Whereas actual market value to lowest seller is only 4850 ISK per 100.
I don't get it, out of 13 spreadsheets I have made, only 4 have profit, and not by a lot by any means, I would be only making barley 1% in return. |
Vurt Konne
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.09.07 08:40:00 -
[120] - Quote
Denis Seegulls wrote:So, I'm somewhat new at this economy end since I went from warfare to manufacturing. I am a bit misconstrued at the mechanics. Manufacturing something, in theory, is supposed to be cheaper than what is readily available correct?
If so then here is my question. I have sat for about one hour creating spreadsheets from blueprints on various items in this format:
Item Lowest Market Value Amount(adding how much I need multiplied to lowest market value).
--Now that I think about it, I should probably estimate it to a median price, but nevertheless--
The value on manufacturing is highly overpriced in relation to readily available goods.
For example, according to my skills, to make Tungsten Charge L (x100) it costs me 24,019.35 ISK. Whereas actual market value to lowest seller is only 4850 ISK per 100.
I don't get it, out of 13 spreadsheets I have made, only 4 have profit, and not by a lot by any means, I would be only making barley 1% in return.
-) Tungsten Charge L (x100) sounds like mission loot. No one directly invested in that, so it can be sold below manufacturing cost while still making money. The market for ammo that is not widely used can be ruined by mission loot and people that mine their own minerals (thus also not spending actual isk for mats and beeing able to price them much lower than the market).
-) the profit of ammo was quite ****** the last time i checked, you really have to search for those ammo types that bring decent profit. even the antimatter evergreen is meh.
-) there are skills to reduce the needed materials
-) there are researched bpo to reduce the needed materials
-) there are people buying materials at lower prices than the market |
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