The real problem is CCP doesn't give a **** at keeping track of their own stickies nor sorting nor updating them in ANY way which could be considered useful for newbies. You're not going to sort this problem out with lack of professional manpower nor moderator banhammer. You want us to do your work of advising players how to play the game? Dream on.

"As a recent college graduate I can say one of the most difficult parts of most of my classes was writing papers over topics that had tons of resources available on them."

The real problem is CCP doesn't give a **** at keeping track of their own stickies nor sorting nor updating them in ANY way which could be considered useful for newbies. You're not going to sort this problem out with lack of professional manpower nor moderator banhammer. You want us to do your work of advising players how to play the game? Dream on.

Okay, so seeing as i am a Noobite to the world of eve,
i can confirm this by saying that, to date, i have lost about 30million ISK, 2 catalysts and 1 Vexor all through stupidity.

I am not a fighter, im a trader.

So my question is this;
How does one work the markets?

Im not asking for more than a starting idea or consept or even a guide. Basically, where do i start?

P.S i can only hope that this is the right thread for this question.

I've got a noob question. Is it possible to get info on the buyers of certain products on the group tab inside the market?
Ex: No one is selling enriched uranium but there are buyers but such info is not shown in the group tab can i make it show there?

Thanks in advance

Apologies for the late reply, guessing you've already figured this out but no, the only way to tell the buyer of something is to sell them a unit and check the transaction log in your wallet. Similarly with sell orders, only way to find out who they are is to buy a unit.

No problem. Yes after some days of tinkering i got to that result to. Thank you anyway

Newbie question on bulk sales (hundreds of millions of units of various minerals in this case)...

Do auctions or marked-up sell orders tend to generate better margins, or does it not make a substantial difference? Which is likely to let me drive up the price the most, basically?

Hi guys,
So well, im an aspiring trader.

I quit EVE around 3-5 months ago, and have recently came back forgetting some things. I came here to ask about trading (buy low sell high) These might be some obvious questions, but i'm not truely in my zone now.

1) Since the idea is to buy low sell high, I have been looking around regions, to find any difference in prices, but always, the sell orders are higher than the buy orders, so its impossible to make a profit. Im not sure where to look anymore, and im fearing that its impossible for me to become a trader. What am I do do?

2) Even if I do find a good deal, from what I hear, the supply of the goods priced low run out too quickly, before the person makes a profit, and then has to look over and over again, this is what happened to me before I quit, and generally ran me down. What would I do in this situation?

3) Any other advice about trading would help, maybe these are just misconceptions, but im not sure anymore.

Howdy. Happy new year.



The margins on many goods (but by no means all, and certainly not at all times) is often insufficient to support buying from a sell order in one place and then selling to a buy order in another. But you've noticed an opening already - the sell orders are higher than the buy orders - so set up a buy order, let other people sell things to you via that; then turn round and sell those things via a sell order and folks can buy from you. You can do this entirely in one station if you prefer, you need never leave the station again and become an agoraphobic pod pilot; if you do this best to go for one of the hub stations, Jita/Amarr/Dodixie/Rens etc. The trick is finding items that turnover relatively rapidly both on the buy and sell side. Also make sure the margin you're getting is enough to cover sales taxes and broker fees (as a very very rough starting point with no skills or standings consider these to be 3%).



This is the other thing to look out for, market moves downwards whilst you're holding stock. Experience is really the main help here but you're helped by the market graphs - look at the price history, do you think those rising prices might keep going up, do they look like they may be headed down? What is the volume being traded? Is the price just currently high because someone bought a massive spike of goods yesterday? Everyone gets caught by this sooner or later, minimise your exposure by spreading your trading out among many different items - ie. don't put all your eggs in one basket.



Work out your sales costs - there are other threads for that but as said, a very rough starting point with no skills or standings is to assume 3%. So when looking at a potential price to buy items for, take that price and multiply it by 1.03 - the result is your (rough) break even point - do you think you can sell for more than this?

Thank you for your help. I have been able to find one item that might be good to sell, I just havent found a place to sell it. Is buying oxygen isotopes for 1099 each a good deal? I picked up a deal for those in Jita, since most were selling for 1600 in the area (but i clearly couldnt just sell it spot on at that price :c ) Just wanted your advice on that, and another question. Is there a specific good, that is sort of in demand now? Still having trouble finding what item people normally use and what people dont.

Thanks.

Oxygen isotopes have recently been high due to a concerted effort to disrupt the supply by exploding the ships mining it (ice in Gallente systems) and not a small amount of market speculation on the back of said campaign. There is nothing intrinsically more valuable about oxygen isotopes than nitrogen isotopes, hydrogen isotopes, or helium isotopes - it's all suppy and demand (and speculation). Given that, take a look at the price of those other isotopes and at the graph of oxygen 'topes over the last 6 months or so.

Now that research should give you enough information to ascertain that oxygen isotopes are uniquely (and perhaps unnaturally) high right now, given that the explodey campaign mentioned above is allegedly now over one would perhaps expect to see prices settle back down to a 450-650 range in the future.

Short term however that may well be a great deal but beyond advising you to not put all your eggs in one basket I can't tell you what to do.


As for a "specific good that is sort of in demand now", there are thousands of items on the market, and huge numbers of them turn over billions of isk per day. Minerals (Tritanium, Pyerite etc) are bought and sold in vast quantities but will typically have very slim margins as a result. I'd advise doing something else in Eve you enjoy and note what items you come across and you need then look up those items - if you're missioning do you keep stumbling across loads of meta items to sell on the market? Do you need constant supply of ammo at your mission station and would be prepared to pay above average price for the convenience? Are you PVPing and need a constant supply of Rifters and warp scramblers? Is your corp setting up in a wormhole? What items do they need, what items are they pulling out of that wormhole? Look up all these items for market opportunities.

hi guys,

what are the 10 biggest trade hubs ?

i know jita, amarr, dodixie, rens, hek, ... but what comes next?



thx in advance

hi guys,

what are the 10 biggest trade hubs ?

i know jita, amarr, dodixie, rens, hek, ... but what comes next?



thx in advance

hi guys,

what are the 10 biggest trade hubs ?

i know jita, amarr, dodixie, rens, hek, ... but what comes next?



thx in advance

Hi.

My question is regarding past market transactions, as shown when you look at Wallet > My Wallet > Transactions

When you type an item that you have sold/bought in the past, it will show you a list with date/time/price/quantity, etc

I'd like to know if that list spans only over a certain amount of time (i.e. will it only show transactions for say, the past 3 months or will it show the transactions for that particular item spanning over your character's entire eve life)?

And also, is that list dependant on your own eve installation or server based? In other words, if i install eve on another computer with a clear cache, will the list of my previous transactions in a particular character still be shown to me?

Thanks

[I'm 99% certain the limit is primarily one of a given number of transactions - ie. the wallet transaction history will only show the last X transactions - I'm about 50% certain that X is the last 1000 transactions. edit: really consider this next bit just vague rumour - There may (only about 20% sure of this) also exist a second limiter in the form of a rolling date cutoff - whether this second limiter acts alongside the first with an AND or an OR operator I'm unsure (would guess OR).

Anyone know how many item types are in the game, and how many of them can be listed on the market? Or a ballpark number?

1. Is there a newbie-friendly means of analyzing the market without going through multiple areas to get a manual look at the pricing of commodities, so I can find out the relative value of the items I have?

2. In a world where shipwrecks provide dairy products (I have some in my cargo hold), how do I actually sell products that have no inherent value to other players? Am I mistaken in the idea that some items (like the dairy stuff) are actually supposed to be sold to NPC vendors in some part of space?

3. As mentioned, I am extremely new, but willing to learn and read as necessary to get up to speed. My final question for the Market Discussion thread is this: As a new Gallente capsuleer, what items should I be looking for and selling to make some gains and earn more ISK to fund my future operations? For instance, if I see that a particularly useful skillbook (say Negotiation, which increases ISK rewards from missions) is available in an area for 50k, but is being sold for 150k three jumps away, should I buy low and sell high in this case?

4. Sorry, I forgot! What are these buy order things I see on the markets? Are those player requests for items where they'll buy it from you at X price?

Butt-kicking for goodness! - Minsc, Baldur's Gate Series

Hopefully this isn't too far afield.
How do I import external data into Open Office?
I'm talking about the XML or CSV links from a website like Eve Marketeer.
Thanks.

Hopefully this isn't too far afield.
How do I import external data into Open Office?
I'm talking about the XML or CSV links from a website like Eve Marketeer.
Thanks.

Does Dr.EyjoG do any advocacy for market/industry features or does he just do data analysis?

And why did he stop doing Quarterly Reports? And has anything taken it's place?

(Link) We will change the format of the QEN but this devblog and the data that comes along with it is an addition to other economic information available to the players. This is a part of a larger plan to give more data directly to players so that they can do their own analysis. And yes, this will continue in the future.

We have not published QENs for 2010 and will most likely not publish them in the previous format but rather moving the Economic Newsletters to more of an annual report. The frequency of the publication is though still being discussed.

And why is the sky blue?

Noob question: everything in the EVE market/economy is created/sold/bought by players? For example.. every single part of a ship in this game is player made? So the war is fueled by the economy which is totally in the players hand?

So the blueprint price difference on market is caused by those who buy them from the npc and try to make a profit.
Is there any site where I can check the source of a item listed on the market? Being noob I wanna make sure that I will not buy something that actually is sold by a npc and also wanna learn what's what .. for example why there are listed weird stuff like Slaves nor consumer electronics, bacterias etc :)

Accepting contracts on behalf of a corporation, is it possible to issue them to a set person in the corp after that point and also to vie what is in the contract to be moved? I don't want to be trying to move things like drugs and stuff in hi sec.

So the blueprint price difference on market is caused by those who buy them from the npc and try to make a profit. Is there any site where I can check the source of a item listed on the market? Being noob I wanna make sure that I will not buy something that actually is sold by a npc and also wanna learn what's what .. for example why there are listed weird stuff like Slaves nor consumer electronics, bacterias etc :)

I'm looking to buy large amounts of minerals, but I really do not want to travel through low sec. How can I set up a buy order that covers as far as possible without going into low sec?

I would find the stations which are going to be producing a large amount of minerals, and set up buy orders with a solar system or 2 jump range.

Region wide mineral orders are a PITA, so best to either use a trade hub, or set up several buy orders in different locations where there are going to be lots of minerals available.

Not sure where to ask this, but I thinks is more a market related question: I bought 4 Gallente drone specialization skillbook and I wanna sell 3 and contract 1 to one of my other character. But I cant contract or sell them as there is no option for that on right click.. only inject skill.

So .. is this a bug or feature? Skill books cannot be sold or contracted? If so, who sell them and why is such a big price difference between regions?

To contract or sell items they need to be in a station hangar. So first, take them out of your ship's hold. :-)
Then start creating a contract. At one point the contract creation process will present you an inventory list with checkmarks. Obviously check the skillbook and proceed. I assume you can handle it from there.

Selling them is just like selling any other item.

MDD

So the blueprint price difference on market is caused by those who buy them from the npc and try to make a profit.
Is there any site where I can check the source of a item listed on the market? Being noob I wanna make sure that I will not buy something that actually is sold by a npc and also wanna learn what's what .. for example why there are listed weird stuff like Slaves nor consumer electronics, bacterias etc :)

I have the formula for the standings discount but I can't remember if this discount also applies when modifying an order? Presently the discount is not applied when modifying the order, was it always this way or is this a recent bug? ( increasing the unit price not decreasing )

ok a real fast and kinda stupid thing to ask for me but i am just wonding, i have been working out of amarr and what ever loot i get from missions i put on the market there, well what i am asking should i spread it around to other near by systems or just keep it in one station

What would spreading the stuff around do for your isk / hour ratio? Does it cost more time (in isk) to spread it as you make money in missions? If the answer is yes, sell locally.

You could choose to stimulate sales by selling on very low prices locally. The bigger traders in the items will scoop up your loot and bring it to places that have better prices. This way you get a high turnover on your orders and free up order slots to sell other incoming loot faster.

Then you could choose to stockpile all loot until you have enough m^3 in goods to fly to a bigger trade hub and instant sell all stuff to buy orders. You could autopilot this route while eating breakfast the next morning or so ;)... you wont need order slots and you dont have a high loss in isk / hour ratio for missions.

Lots of stuff

1. I've got trade 5 in progress and retail 1. That's pretty much all traderelated skills so far. Accounting and Broker relations should be next, right?

2. Any tips on which steps would be the right next steps. (Not asking to be spoonfed, but the direction )

3. Buyorders has gotten me confused at one point. In my station it is a lot of orders in an .01isk war around 3mill for Osprey ( all stationrelated, no jumps ), then myself and two more traders have buy orders up for Osprey at 1.5 mill but with a range of 2-5 jumps. This should mean that I will never get a Osprey that is sold in the station but that I would get the first one instantly sold within my range of the buyorder. Am I correct?

4. Then, how will I get my Burst AND my Osprey back to the home station. I can only fly one.

5. Do you aim for a ratio of fastgoing products and slowgoing products? I feel I can make more profit of the slowgoing but it also dry up the cashflow completly at times

How the heck do you people station trade and turn 250mil into 6 billion in a month?? I can't even fathom how to do that in a station....

How the heck do you people station trade and turn 250mil into 6 billion in a month?? I can't even fathom how to do that in a station....

I'm trying to address a couple things I find ridiculous about the current courier contract system, things that make public courier contracts practically useless.
Q: Why in the world are you allowed to look inside a courier's package at ANY point to determine the contents? Why, as a contract creator, would I want Joe Nobody to know what valuable contents are inside my package?
The only outcomes available to a courier mission should be to Avoid, Deliver (earning reward), or Fail (losing collateral). By default (it should be an option), packages should be blind to the courier.

Because EVE is a game about evaluting risks. Do you risk your own clone traveling with valuable stuff from A to B, or do you hire someone else to do your business. The con of this decision is the risk he walks with your stuff. But for a price (collateral) . Pro's that I like are; 1) I don't need to make time to shift my stuff, 2) I don't have to risk my clone and implants to move stuff

Q: Why would I want to advertise publicly to possible War targets that I want packages delivered? The creator of a Courier mission should also be blind by default.

Why would you just give transport orders with your main alt, why not make a neutral alt in a public corp to set your shipping orders? You can contract all stuff outside your containers everywhere in EVE from any location, without skills. So even in 0.0 sec you can transport stuff from A to B under your ALT name, who is safely in a highsec dock. Your war enemy will never know you shipped stuff from A to B yourself.

Q: Why is collateral by default the entire market price of the container items? Collateral should be to cover EXPECTED losses only, which should be less than 100%. Especially in Hi-sec space, I should expect to lose almost NONE of my packages, maybe 5%. Forcing high collateral is asinine and required huge pools of up-front ISK to cover the complete cost of items, which means newbies CANNOT participate.

The default coll. calculations are FAR of the mark. Either to high or to low, just setup a small calculation for yourself (in a spreadsheet for example), to calculate the price. And then the newbies, of course they can, they could just join with MicroPush for example to make a nice living (Shameless Plug Warning) . Then your reasoning for never losing cargo in the runs, thats not a fact, I lost about a billion in failed contract in public already, by setting a correct on a right coll. that was no loss in isk, just in time. (I had to fly to jita, buy the stuff again and set up new contract)

Request: Make package contents lead-wrapped by default and blind to the courier. Make the creator of a public courier mission blind by default. Equip packages with a tamper-proof self-destruct feature, any unauthorized attempts to open the package will result in the loss of contents.

Blindwrapping would make EVE (or highsec) a carebear haven, I would not want that. Besides, would an outside pilot be able to skill scan it, people would just make scan alts to probe your lead package. Or suicide ganking on transports would be given a whole new meaning. And last, in every real life transport, everyone will notice what you transport from A to B as logistics company, why would EVE be different? Secundly, if the packages would not be penetrable, you could not see the risk of your own work. If you transport a very valuable item for a UGE coll. you could be ganked by people watching markets. Or you could fly a sealed package with 1 trit for 1 bill coll. and you would never expect a gank in your way.

Result: I can make public collateral much less than the entire cost of package items, newbies can afford collateral, small courier packages are viable again. The public courier contract is actually useful again.

Your result would just bring forth a whole new bread of suicide gankers. And a lot less newbies staying out of the business just for the named risks. And for me you never made a valuable argument against public contracting.

**snip**
The public courier contract is actually useful again.

They already are useful, besides, IDK if anyone would be willing to put less collateral on a package than it was worth. Especially with your self-destruct "failsafe", you're just asking for a whole new form of ganking.

Ex:
1) Take Courier with ridiculous low collateral

2) Tamper with package.

3) Lol@Forum tears from the people who've sustained significant losses

Suicide gankers don't do it for profit, they do it for the lulz and the tears-- this will give them a whole new way to entertain themselves by being shitheads.

Would it be entirely too difficult to put an option in the game to limit buy orders by security status? I don't really like traveling through low-sec and I can't find a way to cut out the low-sec systems in "The Forge" since I just found there's a backdoor where "10 jumps from Urlen" can still lead me into low-sec.

Would it be entirely too difficult to put an option in the game to limit buy orders by security status? I don't really like traveling through low-sec and I can't find a way to cut out the low-sec systems in "The Forge" since I just found there's a backdoor where "10 jumps from Urlen" can still lead me into low-sec.

ok i put buy orders in for 2 retrievers and a convtor..one day buy orders

got off work and check and it seems that the buy order time was up

i did not recieve back the 75 mill isk i put in escrow and did not recieve any ships?

it shows in my ledger that they took out the money for escrow

22 mill
23 mill
28 mill
and not to mention 28 mill in ore buy orders

am i missing something here do you not get escrow money back

im prety new.... but i know im not overlooking three 20 mill ships

please help im confused feel like im out a 100 mill here

I am a rookie trader. Would some kind soul inform me what I am doing wrong??


I brought 100,000 units of a consumer product to market to satisfy an NPC buy order for only 45,000 units. Being the dummy that I am, I thought "Screw it, I will try and sell the whole 100,000 units and see if they take it." They sure did....for a price much lower than I expected. I ended up losing 22 million on the transaction.

My question is this:

Assuming that you can sell a commodity in excess of the buy order to the same trader (in this case, an NPC), HOW MUCH does the buy order price drop? The original buy order in my example was at about 325 isk per unit....when transaction completed, I was selling closer to 200 isk per unit.

Help?

Hello, a question regarding a specific service I'd like to start as a thread on this part of the forums.

Basically I make art in pen drawings and ink IRL, and devoting most of time to it.

I play Eve very casually and am making barely enough RL money to keep my subscription up, as I LOVE playing this game, but I however do not have any RL time to invest in making the isk I need ingame.

Since most of my time is dedicated in making art and my curent job, I would like to propose the eve community an exchange for my artworks into ingame isk so I can keep paying for items ingame and paying my sub.

I'd like to open a thread for that, so would I be allowed to do so ?

Thank you.

Player generated content in Eve is always welcome. Personally I think there is need for your service.

The correct place to advertise your service is the Sell Orders forum. This is where you set up shop.

Before you do that, it would be a very good idea to post your plan for this service in Market Discussions (MD). The MD community is likely to give you some useful advice on how to go ahead with the service.

Do not be discouraged by a bit of trolling after you post, as this is how Eve forums are.

As a start: I would like to commission you to design my corp logo. How about 50m advance (after discussing the concept), and 50m on successful completion of the project? If interested please Eve mail me.

Evemail sent, we can talk live ingame whenever you're on next and i'll show you my skills and artwork. Cheers

I'm brand new to Eve, what captured my interest was simply the general banter on PCGamer, I decided to look into it further and found out there is great depth and steeped history within this game. I've started to mine with my character, I really don't know anything but the basics but I've been reading over the forums a bit and saw people talk about IPO's/Shares etc etc, I even see that my corporation has some shares. I'm a part time investor IRL, and have been for 3-4 years now. How in-depth does the market in Eve get? I see there are moving averages and whatnot, but is there an actual/physical stockmarket? Or it is just "plainly" trading "commodities" ? (ships/plans etc etc).

I'm brand new to Eve, what captured my interest was simply the general banter on PCGamer, I decided to look into it further and found out there is great depth and steeped history within this game. I've started to mine with my character, I really don't know anything but the basics but I've been reading over the forums a bit and saw people talk about IPO's/Shares etc etc, I even see that my corporation has some shares. I'm a part time investor IRL, and have been for 3-4 years now. How in-depth does the market in Eve get? I see there are moving averages and whatnot, but is there an actual/physical stockmarket? Or it is just "plainly" trading "commodities" ? (ships/plans etc etc).

I'm trying to find current up to date plex prices in all major hubs, unable to get ingame

I'm trying to find current up to date plex prices in all major hubs, unable to get ingame

Just an FYI to the rest of the clever guys who post on MD, this thread on the new forums is a repost of the original thread created by me in December 2008 in response to an influx of stupid threads asking simple questions. The dev that recreated this thread probably didn't do it to "get us to do his work of advising players on how to play the game" but instead to move a sticked thread from the old forum to the new one.

If the thread is now unnecessary then so be it, but sometimes clever people with clever remarks end up being everything but.

/me waves his Jedi finger
This isn't the CCP conspiracy you're looking for.

STUFF

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Question: Is there any way to see how long a specific buy order has been up? I can see how long since my last modify order, but I'm not sure how to view the age of the order. I think some of my buy orders aren't moving as quickly as I like, and I'd want to identify them and replace them with new items that move a bit faster. Is there any way to view this in-game? Failing that, do any utilities have this feature? I've used Elinor, and I just started using EVE Mentat, if that helps.

Sorry if this question has been asked before, but 5 pages of questions and answers is a bit much for me to read through :P

My question is this: I'm mining in lowsec and I've built up a nice pile of kernite. My corp has an ore buyback that takes about 10% off the market value so the corp makes some cash. Reasonable.

Now, I'm wondering whether it's actually better for me to be bringing my ore to market rather than contracting it to my corp rep for a slightly discounted rate. I realize that there is the possibility that my ores won't get bought, but does that risk outweigh the ISK I'm losing for my ores?

Why do this?

Because this part of the market interface is dumb and the NPC brokers are idiots. Add to that, too many e-peen strokers think that dumb things like this make Eve harder and more of an elite game.

If I want to invest in a corp or a bank, etc, after just starting, can I make a small investment of 1 million ISK?

There are some issue with expired courier contracts.

Why we cannot refuse or delete expired courier contracts ? At least why these contracts shows as "Required Attention" as long as they already NOT require any attention?

Question about Market spreadsheeting:

Is there is an API, official or trusted, that will let me import all the names and ID's of items that can be traded on the market in EVE? The goal would then be to use that data together with the eve-central API to set-up an all-covering spreadsheet that doesn't require manually typing all the item names and looking up their IDs.

I've looked through the EVE Api's but did not find anything like it.

So, I'm somewhat new at this economy end since I went from warfare to manufacturing. I am a bit misconstrued at the mechanics. Manufacturing something, in theory, is supposed to be cheaper than what is readily available correct?

If so then here is my question. I have sat for about one hour creating spreadsheets from blueprints on various items in this format:
Item Lowest Market Value Amount(adding how much I need multiplied to lowest market value).

--Now that I think about it, I should probably estimate it to a median price, but nevertheless--

The value on manufacturing is highly overpriced in relation to readily available goods.
For example, according to my skills, to make Tungsten Charge L (x100) it costs me 24,019.35 ISK. Whereas actual market value to lowest seller is only 4850 ISK per 100.


I don't get it, out of 13 spreadsheets I have made, only 4 have profit, and not by a lot by any means, I would be only making barley 1% in return.

So, I'm somewhat new at this economy end since I went from warfare to manufacturing. I am a bit misconstrued at the mechanics. Manufacturing something, in theory, is supposed to be cheaper than what is readily available correct?

If so then here is my question. I have sat for about one hour creating spreadsheets from blueprints on various items in this format:
Item Lowest Market Value Amount(adding how much I need multiplied to lowest market value).

--Now that I think about it, I should probably estimate it to a median price, but nevertheless--

The value on manufacturing is highly overpriced in relation to readily available goods.
For example, according to my skills, to make Tungsten Charge L (x100) it costs me 24,019.35 ISK. Whereas actual market value to lowest seller is only 4850 ISK per 100.


I don't get it, out of 13 spreadsheets I have made, only 4 have profit, and not by a lot by any means, I would be only making barley 1% in return.

What's the best way to sell a few rigged capitals I have lying around?
Contracts? Sell Orders forum?

"When you buy an item in the market, you can pay more than the lowest bidder but it still sells goods from the lowest seller's stock. CCP just basically takes the extra ISK you paid and no one gets it. "

is incorrect.

If you want to pay 100m for a rifter, it gives me the 100m, if mine is the top sell order.

"When selling. You enter a selling price below the lowest bid. The highest bid gets your items at the cost they bid, but you are still only given whatever you bid for the item."

If you sell to me a rifter for 10 isk, it takes 10 isk from me, and gives you a rifter.

So, CCP are not taking anything apart from the fees.

Is there a way to set up my market overview so that it shows only the amount products being sold in that given station or solar system, not the whole region? Iv pushed everyone button, changed my filters all around and can seem to figure it out. An example would be that I want to look up how much trit moves through this one station in a given day. No matter what I filter it shows the amount of what I am assuming is region.

Is there a way to set up my market overview so that it shows only the amount products being sold in that given station or solar system, not the whole region? Iv pushed everyone button, changed my filters all around and can seem to figure it out. An example would be that I want to look up how much trit moves through this one station in a given day. No matter what I filter it shows the amount of what I am assuming is region.

I have had several run-ins with this mechanic, and the latest cost me 500 million isk for a T2 800mm armor plate. I get the broker side of things and how all sales are indirect, but there are not enough tools for a trader to protect themselves from simple mistakes. I updated a buy order that started at 500k and I was trying to add 1 isk to it. I got the decimal out of place and I updated the order to 500 million by accident. Woosh! 500 million gone from the wallet. Thankfully there was only 1 item left on the order so I didn't wind up paying 500 million each for many of them. That could have wiped me out.

There should be more control over these indirect transactions such as stop loss orders. There should be options for things like "cancel trade if buy order exceeds any in-range sell order. We need tools to help us prevent serious losses over simple typos. For toons that have hundreds of orders outstanding, this has got to be a significant pain point.

I'm trying to understand the relation between sell orders and buy orders. Obviously I get what they both do, but in certain situations I don't understand why one would sell to buy orders to begin with?

Take Jita for instance. It's easy to set up a buy order for minerals there and have it filled in a matter of minutes (sometimes even seconds) if you are the highest bidder. I generally attribute this to people not caring about the price they get and just hit sell.

But apparently the same thing happens with T2 materials (moon goo products) and the people producing these things generally do not blindly hit sell.

So what is the reasoning for selling to a buy order when you can list the product as a sell order at a much higher price and still have a guaranteed sale?

Can someone explain how these two types of orders co-exist and why someone would choose on over the other?

Just a few situations where I would sell to buy orders:
1. Someone undercuts my sell order every minute, and I do not have the patience/time/inclination to do pvp.
2. I have large units of the item to sell, and it would take ages for the all the units to sell, and I need the money now to buy the materials I need for my next manufacturing binge. Thus I dump on sell orders.
3. I want to crash the market, and I dump 20 zillion units on buy orders.
4. I have not trained trade skills, and do not have slots to place sell order/s, and the taxes are such for me, and the difference in buy/sell orders such that it makes little sense to sell using sell orders
5. I do not know that items sell pretty quickly using sell orders at Jita, thus in my ignorance I dump on buy orders.
6. I just have one fricking unit to sell. The hell with setting up a sell order.
7. Edit: My manufacturing cost is so low (I get the minerals free by mining 24/7) that I make a huge 'profit' selling to buy orders. Screw setting up a sell order.

How do i raise a successful loan on these forums?


edit:
What does the community require?


API keys?
Forum Post? asking for isk and thats it?

In one word: Collateral.

Reputation, API keys (audit) and a good business plan helps, but gone are the days of uncollateralized loans (this used to happen a lot on the old forums, and then there were a series of large and small scams which put an end to the good times).

So have some collateral ready, valued at 110% of the required loan (use Evepraisal), and you'll get yourself a loan in a few minutes. Offer 3% interest.

As far as i know, sales tax can be as low as 0,75%, but what about the brokers fee?

So i just cant understand why do they do this i will outbid him no mather how high he will rise the price

And he will just do the same, so that answers your "why does he do this?" He experienced the same when you put up your buy order at 130k. He though "I had it at 15% margin, why does someone raise it to 130k? I'll outbid him no matter what ..."

i will outbid him no mather how high he will rise the price