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CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.07 11:55:00 - [1] To celebrate the highly anticipated release of the Mac and Linux clients for EVE, weÆre extending the Power of Two offer to Monday, 12 November. This offer gives you the opportunity to create a second account with 6 months of game time for only 49.95 USD/EUR, whichever is applicable to your current account. Visit Account Management to increase your power in EVE! Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

ThisAlt IsUseless	Posted - 2007.11.07 12:04:00 - [2] nice!
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.11.07 12:33:00 - [3] make it cheaper... pure and simple, screw VAT or whatever reason it is ur keeping the EU price at the same figure as the US price. Make EU players pay 35 euros (give or take) so it's the same as US players with their 50 bucks. I've been hearing that it's cheaper to start a new account using gtc's bougth from shattered crystal for instance, so this is just rediculous. CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
speedo	Posted - 2007.11.07 12:38:00 - [4] I Would like to have a second account, 1 simple problem... I log into account, no button or anything to create a second account :( I recently re-joined eve a week or 2 ago, asked support about it, they said my account was not active when the power of 2 was out, so tuff luck :( Now it has been extended and i have been active, how come i can't get a second account? CCP I am willing to pay for a second account, are you going to turn me down? I think it is a bit sad you dont just let anyone have a second account, after all it's extra revenue for CCP A discruntled player
Lin Dei Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.11.07 12:48:00 - [5] Thank you CCP ------------------ If you see me post it's because either: 1) Silly forums made me do it 2) Because I was too lazy to change characters 3) Because I wanted to 4) <insert mod comment here>
Raleigh The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.07 13:15:00 - [6] Originally by: speedo I Would like to have a second account, 1 simple problem... I log into account, no button or anything to create a second account :( I recently re-joined eve a week or 2 ago, asked support about it, they said my account was not active when the power of 2 was out, so tuff luck :( Now it has been extended and i have been active, how come i can't get a second account? CCP I am willing to pay for a second account, are you going to turn me down? I think it is a bit sad you dont just let anyone have a second account, after all it's extra revenue for CCP A discruntled player I re-joined eve simply because of the mac client. I was hoping I could get in on the Po2 promotion as well. :(
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2007.11.07 13:17:00 - [7] I don't want another account, but it's not showing up on my account page either - just in case there's a bug or something. PS- My account has never been inactive for more than a few hours I think, although never in the past few months. __________________ Galaxy Punks are recruiting, click here for more info [site in beta ;)]
Sobach Gallente Fourth Circle Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.11.07 13:27:00 - [8] yea, I'm hoping to get into that to train a miner alt or something, but it's not showing up in my acct. management page either. Bug?
Gravecall	Posted - 2007.11.07 13:29:00 - [9] I'm tempted, just to see if it proves to be much use in aiding my main account but like the others I can't see any button for the option in the account management section.
Dunedon	Posted - 2007.11.07 13:40:00 - [10] I am on my account management page, and I can guarantee I've been active the entire time for this Power of 2 offer ... I don't see any way to create a new account using it ... some help here please? - Dunedon ------ WYSIWYG: I don't post with an Alt ... if I die in game for having an opinion, at least I know someone listened. - Dunedon

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.07 14:36:00 - [11] Those of you who didn't get the Power of Two to show up, please try again and let me know if it works or not. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Sobach Gallente Fourth Circle Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.11.07 14:44:00 - [12] confirmed to be working now, thanks :)
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2007.11.07 14:55:00 - [13] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Those of you who didn't get the Power of Two to show up, please try again and let me know if it works or not. Works now Wrangler. __________________ Galaxy Punks are recruiting, click here for more info [site in beta ;)]
speedo	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:00:00 - [14] I now have the button, but another problem :/ When paying via credit card it says autorisation errors :( I am using my normal credit card which i used today to buy the wife some cloths, so i know it works. Any ideas?? The only other way if for me to pay via gtc (it don't have the option for them) cheers Speed
Inquisitor Berthez Viziam	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:07:00 - [15] $50 is way cheaper than Ç50! Go fix . Ö

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:10:00 - [16] Originally by: speedo I now have the button, but another problem :/ When paying via credit card it says autorisation errors :( I am using my normal credit card which i used today to buy the wife some cloths, so i know it works. Any ideas?? The only other way if for me to pay via gtc (it don't have the option for them) cheers Speed Petition in the billing category. The anti fraud system would pick up if your card is issued in another country than you're trying to use it from, but it could be other problems as well. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Xhar Khalagor Make Love To War	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:20:00 - [17] Service Unavailable - Xharrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:58:00 - [18] Originally by: Xhar Khalagor Service Unavailable There's another thread on that, but it looks like it's slowly getting back to normal. At this point I believe there was just some form of temporary hiccup. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Astro Bank	Posted - 2007.11.07 16:28:00 - [19] Extended...because they didnt make enough money due to bad service, downtime, lag and petitions not getting responded. This is more than likely the reason its extended...What is happening to EVE?...all of a sudden I and a lot of other customers feel completely cheated..for instance: Forum Thread: Crappy Customer Service
Mina Lecour Gallente Eve University	Posted - 2007.11.07 16:47:00 - [20] This was great news for me! Running a trial account I so fell for Eve and was aiming for a second account already but missed the 4th November. New the offer returns and Voila! I can't get it!? What's this I hear only accounts active during the offer can take it? That's not exactly good marketing.. I would very much like to take part in this offer and wonder if it's by any means possible? If not then you'll loose those extra ÇÇ from my part as I'll be sticking to one account only. Cheers, Mina and Bofra
Whiztex	Posted - 2007.11.07 17:04:00 - [21] Hm... I'm still not seeing the Po2-button. But I may not been active long enough? From which date must one been active to be able to use this offer?

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.07 17:30:00 - [22] Originally by: Whiztex Hm... I'm still not seeing the Po2-button. But I may not been active long enough? From which date must one been active to be able to use this offer? From about 5-10 minutes prior to this post being posted. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Mina Lecour Gallente Eve University	Posted - 2007.11.07 17:44:00 - [23] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Whiztex Hm... I'm still not seeing the Po2-button. But I may not been active long enough? From which date must one been active to be able to use this offer? From about 5-10 minutes prior to this post being posted. So, let me understand this correctly, people registered and active prior to approx 14:30 (Eve time) should be able to get the Po2 offer? If that's the case I should be eligible but I can't find that button anywhere on my account. Is it because I'm on trial account? A little more information would help, or at least a link to where this information might be posted.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.07 18:18:00 - [24] Originally by: Mina Lecour Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Whiztex Hm... I'm still not seeing the Po2-button. But I may not been active long enough? From which date must one been active to be able to use this offer? From about 5-10 minutes prior to this post being posted. So, let me understand this correctly, people registered and active prior to approx 14:30 (Eve time) should be able to get the Po2 offer? If that's the case I should be eligible but I can't find that button anywhere on my account. Is it because I'm on trial account? A little more information would help, or at least a link to where this information might be posted. Yes, the offer is only available on paying accounts that were active at the time, not for trial accounts. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Spacy Tracy	Posted - 2007.11.07 19:21:00 - [25] Edited by: Spacy Tracy on 07/11/2007 19:22:01 Is there any chance we could use this to - open the second account as normal - transfer a character from existing account - once the 6 months have expired, transfer back to original account. Basically - I already have a second account and I have to split my training time between two characters, and 6 months would allow me to pretty much get one of the alts polished up to where he needs to be. But the existing $20 character transfer fee is pretty much a turnoff for me.
Whiztex Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.07 19:28:00 - [26] Well, then I guess I'm missing something, because I've been active for the last month and still can't see any sign of such a button.....
Mina Lecour Gallente Eve University	Posted - 2007.11.07 20:19:00 - [27] Thanks for the answers then Wrangler, too bad I can't join in the offer. Wouldn't hurt though if you gave out a little bit more information to begin with next time. If I knew about the trial account thing last week I would've upgraded to full in time.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.07 20:57:00 - [28] looks like its working for me, would love to take you up on it but I already have a 2nd account, for full price
phillie blunt Live And Let Die	Posted - 2007.11.07 21:56:00 - [29] so the 6 months apply to the 2 accounts or just to the new account?
watermelon420	Posted - 2007.11.07 22:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Whiztex Well, then I guess I'm missing something, because I've been active for the last month and still can't see any sign of such a button..... same here, I've been playing for a little over a month and I can't seem to find how to have my Po2. can anyone help me out
Viceroy Bolloxim Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.08 00:46:00 - [31] I already have two accounts. will you allow me to discount the second account ? :) I think I have a 6 month renewal on my second about to come about... :) can I link my 2nd account to my first to get a discounted rate ? would be nice 'reward' for my long standing gameplaying loyalty :) oh I use a CC I dont use GTC's. bollo Digital - Expressed in numerical form, especially for use by a computer. Fury - the property of being wild or turbulent; "the storm's violence"
Strategos Arkhein Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.11.08 01:26:00 - [32] I would love to do this service. But I do not see the option under my account to do so. This account has been regular (not trial) since October 11th. Please help. ----- Just another newbie. =D
Jhaelin Anarise	Posted - 2007.11.08 02:03:00 - [33] It's not showing up for me. Is the offer still available?
Tam Elbrun Minmatar Border Patrol Infinite Innovation	Posted - 2007.11.08 02:07:00 - [34] is it possible to just use paypal funds for this offer? would be nice to have a alt miner :)
Archton	Posted - 2007.11.08 02:26:00 - [35] There is no button/link in my account management :S Ive been paying and active for a while now..
Dominator9987 Minmatar The Shambling Horde	Posted - 2007.11.08 03:14:00 - [36] I'd do it if I could link two existing accounts but that would be a bad marketting strategy on your part lol. Kudos to this though, I know a lot of players who havn't created an additional character due to cost and have sufferred / cursed me with their envy because I dual / tri / quad box.
watermelon420	Posted - 2007.11.08 03:22:00 - [37] could anyone help us out? wrangler? CCP?
Adam Weishaupt Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.08 03:45:00 - [38] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Those of you who didn't get the Power of Two to show up, please try again and let me know if it works or not. Works now, account created. Wrangler, an excellent example of CCP remaining the most responsive and forward thinking companies in the gaming industry. I rarely complain, but it's good to see that people are actually listening. Cheers and major kudos. Thanks!
bobby buddha	Posted - 2007.11.08 05:02:00 - [39] Yeh how about a discount for us players who already own 2 accounts?!
Nemezi	Posted - 2007.11.08 07:54:00 - [40] How come it it will cost 50USD/50EU? CCP do u guys even know what you can do with 50EU compared to 50USD? This is not fair, I am very dissapointed.. I wish I could pay in USD than it would be like 50% cheaper. I couldnt pay that when I bought the game online, so I guess I couldnt even now... A very dissapointed customer here.
Gravecall	Posted - 2007.11.08 09:51:00 - [41] Originally by: Nemezi How come it it will cost 50USD/50EU? CCP do u guys even know what you can do with 50EU compared to 50USD? This is not fair, I am very dissapointed.. I wish I could pay in USD than it would be like 50% cheaper. I couldnt pay that when I bought the game online, so I guess I couldnt even now... A very dissapointed customer here. Of course you could always compare 6 x Ç14.99 to Ç50 and just be glad for the significant discount... PS-link appeared and worked for me. Thanks CCP.
watermelon420	Posted - 2007.11.08 12:45:00 - [42] the link still doesn't work for me
Boule Desbois	Posted - 2007.11.08 13:09:00 - [43] The Euro/Dollar parity is really discouraging. I live in Euro-zone and I already paid for the first account through and absurd US ETC dealer for this reason (40% discount mind you, but some extra benefits for a US industry that does nothing to specially deserve it) and now the same absurd price in Euro and $$ is still maintained for those offers. Swiss players do not suffer from that, I doubt English ones pay in Euros but French, German and other Belgians probably do. What is the logic behind that? And will CCP maintain this policy should the Dollar reach 0.5 Euros or lower in some months? I feel unjustly milked. Meanwhile, congratulation for the Linux client, a smart move.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.08 14:31:00 - [44] Originally by: Spacy Tracy Is there any chance we could use this to - open the second account as normal - transfer a character from existing account - once the 6 months have expired, transfer back to original account. Basically - I already have a second account and I have to split my training time between two characters, and 6 months would allow me to pretty much get one of the alts polished up to where he needs to be. But the existing $20 character transfer fee is pretty much a turnoff for me. Any character transfers are not included in the price I'm afraid. Originally by: phillie blunt so the 6 months apply to the 2 accounts or just to the new account? The Power of Two offer means if you have an existing account you can get an additional account for 49.95, this includes account creation and 6 months of game time, after that you can continue using the account for the normal cost. Originally by: Viceroy Bolloxim I already have two accounts. will you allow me to discount the second account ? :) I think I have a 6 month renewal on my second about to come about... :) can I link my 2nd account to my first to get a discounted rate ? would be nice 'reward' for my long standing gameplaying loyalty :) oh I use a CC I dont use GTC's. bollo Power of Two is only for new accounts created with this offer, not discount for existing accounts. Originally by: Tam Elbrun is it possible to just use paypal funds for this offer? would be nice to have a alt miner :) The only method of payment for this is credit card (or debit card). Originally by: Various posters I still can't get the Power of Two offer to show up even though I meet all requirements (paraphrased). I will send off another email so we can check what is happening. Originally by: Various posters Why do we pay so much more in EUR than those paying in USD (paraphrased)? As we have said before, the main reason for the difference in cost is the EU VAT, which is basically a tax in most of Europe. There is an additional difference in price, which is due to the USD being weak right now. We have decided not to increase the price in USD for now, if that decision changes we will announce it. I hope this clears up some questions and I will get back to you with more information on the Power of Two offer not showing up for some of you when I know more. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Mongorth	Posted - 2007.11.08 15:38:00 - [45] Quote: The Power of Two offer means if you have an existing account you can get an additional account for 49.95, this includes account creation and 6 months of game time, after that you can continue using the account for the normal cost. So let me understand this. We have our first old account, normal paying. With the power of two we get a second new account for 49,5$ for 6 months. But that money also includes our first old account also for 6 months OR its just for our new second account and we continue to pay separatly for our first old account ??

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.08 15:54:00 - [46] Originally by: Mongorth So let me understand this. We have our first old account, normal paying. With the power of two we get a second new account for 49,5$ for 6 months. But that money also includes our first old account also for 6 months OR its just for our new second account and we continue to pay separatly for our first old account ?? Yes, it is only for the second account, you still pay as usual for your original account. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Boule Desbois	Posted - 2007.11.08 16:04:00 - [47] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Various posters Why do we pay so much more in EUR than those paying in USD (paraphrased)? As we have said before, the main reason for the difference in cost is the EU VAT, which is basically a tax in most of Europe. There is an additional difference in price, which is due to the USD being weak right now. We have decided not to increase the price in USD for now, if that decision changes we will announce it. - You spell out that you would pay back VAT to the EU when one is buying from there... I am a bit surprised to say the least, and I suspect it must be very simple indeed! - but what happens when if I buy ETC by shatteredcrystal for instance? Are they paying VAT to the EU too? And on which basis? - and if I were a US official playing from, say, the US embassy in Luxembourg? I am probably not supposed to pay VAT in this case, playing from US soil, and I would probably be entitled to a refund? It is the first time ever I am doing some fiscal optimisation a la Big Corp. Things are turning a bit weird in this Earthly world... Oh, by the way, you're welcome in the EU! Plus on est de fous plus on rit.
Lothiniel	Posted - 2007.11.08 20:29:00 - [48] Is the second sccount tied in any way to my first one? Because a friend of mine saw that offer, when i showed him eve, and we want to know if i can take that offer and just give him the second account, or if that is in any way against the Eula.
Katanah Tsaiukun	Posted - 2007.11.08 23:30:00 - [49] I'm not seeing this button either. And it's not that it's just small like someone said it was, it's simply not there.
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2007.11.08 23:33:00 - [50] Originally by: Boule Desbois - but what happens if I buy ETC by shatteredcrystal for instance? Are they paying VAT to the EU too? Or is Paypal paying it? And on which basis? If you're buying from a non-EU retailer you may have to pay the VAT yourself (depending on the EU country you live in) Quote: - and if I were a US official playing from, say, the US embassy in Luxembourg? I am probably not supposed to pay VAT in this case, playing from US soil, and I would probably be entitled to a refund? If you were a US official playing from, say, the US embassy in Luxembourg you would either know what to do or know where to find the information about what to do. =AFK=
Strategos Arkhein Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.11.09 00:10:00 - [51] I would like to activate the "Power of Two" offer. However, I do not have the option to do so under my account. Why is that if this account has been active for over a month now? Please help. ----- Just another newbie. =D
Boule Desbois	Posted - 2007.11.09 00:48:00 - [52] Edited by: Boule Desbois on 09/11/2007 00:49:26 About this difference of prices... some precisions fetched there and elsewhere: - Island is a member of the European Economic Space (EEE in French), which is apparently not a custom union but an economic union. Go figure... Norway and Lichtenstein are other non-EU members of this agreement, and Switzerland is closely associated to it too but with some derogations. - according to what I have read, any non-EU company selling through the Internet or otherwise to EU customers should collect the VAT (possibly considering one single rate for the whole EU) and give it back to one single fiscal administration of one of the EU member of its choice (presumably, the one with the aforementionned rate). Conclusions: - Shatteredcrystal/Ebay and the others ETC resellers should charge for the EU VAT and give it back to the EU states through one of them. I am not so sure they do that... - CCP should (and certainly does) collect the VAT and give it to one EU state. The catch is: this would count for 15% of the price in the worse case scenario, and a 45% difference between US and EU prices is not justified. Well... sorry for the annoyance, I'll have some Veldspar now... and I still feel milked. Meeeuuuuu!!
CoJest	Posted - 2007.11.09 08:42:00 - [53] Quote: make it cheaper... pure and simple, screw VAT or whatever reason it is ur keeping the EU price at the same figure as the US price. Make EU players pay 35 euros (give or take) so it's the same as US players with their 50 bucks. Unfortunately, CCP has set their prices in $$ instead of ISK (Icelandic Krona). The ISK has appreciated about 16% over the $ since jan 2007. That means the $$ players have a 16% discount to the Krona today. Not bad? Euro players are paying a 46% premium (at 1.46 $ to a Ç). In fact our costs have increased from a 32% premium in jan 2007 (1.32 $ to 1 Ç) in Jan 2007 to 46% today. ie increase of 14%. CCP is losing 16% on each $$ account and gaining 14% on each Çland account. No country has a 46% VAT. The $$ will continue to go down the toilet. And the Ç will continue to go up (soon 1.5$ to 1 Ç) That means Çland will continue to pay more while $$ customers will continue to pay less. At 10.00 hours (gmt+1) there are roughly 18players on line. most are probably euro. thats the equiv. of 26k $$ players with no extra server load. not bad, huh? ...and as for the button to extend to a second client. where is it?

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.09 10:01:00 - [54] Originally by: Lothiniel Is the second sccount tied in any way to my first one? Because a friend of mine saw that offer, when i showed him eve, and we want to know if i can take that offer and just give him the second account, or if that is in any way against the Eula. This would be against the EULA since you're not allowed to transfer accounts. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Cherubior	Posted - 2007.11.09 11:14:00 - [55] Originally by: CCP Wrangler The Power of Two offer means if you have an existing account you can get an additional account for 49.95, this includes account creation and 6 months of game time, after that you can continue using the account for the normal cost. Hi, no offence, but the normal cost after 6 month is just ridiculous, I think. Please, keep the same low price for long time customers. That case I am willing to spend another 49 bucks for CCP every 6 month.
Dirigo laForma Minmatar KYFHO Corp Ltd.	Posted - 2007.11.09 12:28:00 - [56] What exactly does Po2 do for you? Besides costing less for the second account for 6 months and allowing you to train an Alt character at the same time as the main. Can you run both accounts at the same time? Will you receive a different start up interface? Let me know. I'm interested if the benefits are worth it.
Cherubior	Posted - 2007.11.09 12:52:00 - [57] Originally by: Dirigo laForma What exactly does Po2 do for you? Besides costing less for the second account for 6 months and allowing you to train an Alt character at the same time as the main. Can you run both accounts at the same time? Will you receive a different start up interface? Let me know. I'm interested if the benefits are worth it. There will be no other interface. You got the point in every other aspects of it. You can use them both at the same time via running multiple clients paralelly, of course.
Aleck Mathews	Posted - 2007.11.09 19:04:00 - [58] Hello CCP well i got a question i just used the buddy program and gave my girlfriend a trial account now we want to turn it into regular account can we use the power of two to do this or the only way is to forget about that trial account and use a newone... because we dont want to loose the SP that she has. thanks in advance
Dunedon	Posted - 2007.11.09 19:52:00 - [59] Current issues with the ability to actually log in to the secure site mean I'm having difficulty accepting this offer (petition has been filed). If it's not fixed this weekend can the offer be extended so I am able to take advantage of it? - Dunedon ------ WYSIWYG: I don't post with an Alt ... if I die in game for having an opinion, at least I know someone listened. - Dunedon
Solbright altalt	Posted - 2007.11.09 20:25:00 - [60] Vote for a Skill Queue
Athelas Loraiel Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.11.09 21:34:00 - [61] need urgent info. Can I buy po2, then use my char from last power of 2 offer and transfer to this new po2 account, and continue his trainings further on? If po2 has no restrictions like normal accounts, I may consider buying it again. Though 20$+50$ for 6 months = 70$ makje sit cheaper by 1 $ 70c opposed to your normal charging prices. AND, if I buy it from GTCs site in US, it goes even cheaper! Lucky, my credit card does calcs in US $, so Im on cheaper side whatever I pay, lol, even if Im in EU zone (or right next to it). THNX.
bANDIIC	Posted - 2007.11.10 00:24:00 - [62] I would like to to swallow this bait of marketing (buy second account), BUT i dont see that nice button anywhere on my account page, and I have been active long enough, to qualify for this offer.
Dread Spider	Posted - 2007.11.10 00:36:00 - [63] I'm a noob so I'm not understanding the point of two accounts. Will one like a wingman or do you take control of both chars? Please shed some light on this for me. Thanks
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.11.10 00:43:00 - [64] Originally by: Athelas Loraiel need urgent info. Though 20$+50$ for 6 months = 70$ ccp how much we do pay now 70euro or 50euro for the 6 month if i create second acc with power of n the second page where one gives in his adress and so on there does stand written 30 days gametime + first registration for 20 euro but u say its 0 euro for alltogether now what is right
ChanibintLiet	Posted - 2007.11.10 03:15:00 - [65] So. What do you do when the name you want dosnt' sho up in game as being taken but when you try to creat a PO2 account under that name is says, ERROR: The username you selected has already been taken, please select a different username. I check again and the funn name has not been taken. Only the first part. Say If I wanted the name, "Vinny the Toad". The name "Vinny" comes up taken in game but not "Vinny the toad" The character with the first name I want is about 2.5 years old, still in the noob corp with no standings. I don't think the person ever got past the trial account. Can I petition for the name? Or is there a way to get the name I wanted in the first place?
SleepyOSU	Posted - 2007.11.10 04:16:00 - [66] CCP Wrangler, if the EURO/USD price becomes a continuing issue you should have the finance department look into "currency hedging" your circumstances are a bit different than I have ever dealt with due to unpredicted and small vast transactions. However a specialty currency hedging fund, might have a solution.
Tristan Michaels	Posted - 2007.11.10 04:22:00 - [67] I have an active account with EVE. I also recently created a Trial Account via a promotion. Is there any way that I could activate my trial account as my second account? I can't see any logical reason why I could not, but from what I'm reading, it's not allowed. Clarification, please.
zarn deathreaper Punk Thieves Corp	Posted - 2007.11.10 05:04:00 - [68] Well i recently started a trial account after having a break from EVE for a few years and got hooked again so i re activated my old acount thinking i would take advantage of the Power of 2 offer to keep my trial acount going wich i have got attached to the advertisment on the main page only states u need an active account to get the power of 2 deal "The Power of Two is available to everyone with an active EVE subscription. (Trial accounts are not eligible.)" i cant under stand why u wont let people take advantage of this if they have an active account reguardless of when the account was created and wish to pay another $50 isnt this good for CCP beter to have $50 for 6 months than 0 dollars
watermelon420	Posted - 2007.11.10 08:14:00 - [69] A lot of people can't seem to be able to access this deal, can you help us with this problem, I've been waiting for a solution for quite some time now but nothing has shown yet. Please the offer ends soon and I want to be able to participate in this offer.
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.11.10 11:21:00 - [70] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 10/11/2007 11:24:06 FEHLER: Username:Username exists; this is what i get after giving in my adress at the direct debit site it is totally bugged i suggest u fix this asap ccp if u want money
Katana Seiko Made in Germany	Posted - 2007.11.10 11:45:00 - [71] I had a second account with the offer of last year... Why can't I reactivate it with this offer? After all, you'd get a second paying account from me, even tho it might be only for a limited time... -- The future begins now - in EVE we live it, in real life we create it! Your sig is too big. Please keep it under 400x120 and less than 24000 byte. -the sexiest moderator ([email protected])
Lost Defender	Posted - 2007.11.10 12:19:00 - [72] Originally by: 000Hunter000 make it cheaper... pure and simple, screw VAT or whatever reason it is ur keeping the EU price at the same figure as the US price. Make EU players pay 35 euros (give or take) so it's the same as US players with their 50 bucks. I've been hearing that it's cheaper to start a new account using gtc's bougth from shattered crystal for instance, so this is just rediculous. this is the same thing that's keeping me from getting a second account. Dollar is much cheaper and it should be the same price all around of the world. keep in mind I am a student and I do not have that much money.. One price for the win. If the price is the same as the quoted writer above I would buy it instantly...
Dono Dymos	Posted - 2007.11.10 14:12:00 - [73] can i use the power of 2 if i don't have credit card? can i use isk frm my main or somehting????
Agent Oskar Renegade Circus Midgets	Posted - 2007.11.10 14:54:00 - [74] CCP please clarify, I Filed a petition under billing and account but it has been 3 days and no reply. Please allow us to activate a trial account into a full paying account via PO2 (if we already own a full paying account). No clarification has been given and the ability to use PO2 Ends on Monday, I do not want to lose 1 1/2 weeks of training time and isk already invested. Not to mention my sweet a55 name :) Thanks in advance.
NiKunni Clerk Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.10 15:36:00 - [75] FEHLER: Username:Username exists; this is what i get after giving in my adress at the CC site it is totally bugged someone fix this pls
Franzz Ferdinand Caldari CompleXion Industries	Posted - 2007.11.10 16:24:00 - [76] I've had paying account long enough to qualify but there's no option in My Account screens to take up Po2 offer... It seems I'm not the only one still suffering this bug, please fix!
Th3 F4ll3n	Posted - 2007.11.10 16:42:00 - [77] I try to do the PO2 offer but in the second window of activation I have always the same error: Username:Username exists; I have tried every type of name and it doesn't work, givin that error... I want my new account, fix the problem please...
Scalla Sand	Posted - 2007.11.10 16:43:00 - [78] one short question: if i create the account monday, will i be able to use the power of two offer or it would be too late? thanks
Dorkquemada	Posted - 2007.11.10 17:36:00 - [79] I can't see this offer :(
Medsq	Posted - 2007.11.10 18:35:00 - [80] What happens to it after 6 months? I might've missed it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Spacy Tracy Is there any chance we could use this to - open the second account as normal - transfer a character from existing account - once the 6 months have expired, transfer back to original account. Basically - I already have a second account and I have to split my training time between two characters, and 6 months would allow me to pretty much get one of the alts polished up to where he needs to be. But the existing $20 character transfer fee is pretty much a turnoff for me. Any character transfers are not included in the price I'm afraid. Originally by: phillie blunt so the 6 months apply to the 2 accounts or just to the new account? The Power of Two offer means if you have an existing account you can get an additional account for 49.95, this includes account creation and 6 months of game time, after that you can continue using the account for the normal cost. Originally by: Viceroy Bolloxim I already have two accounts. will you allow me to discount the second account ? :) I think I have a 6 month renewal on my second about to come about... :) can I link my 2nd account to my first to get a discounted rate ? would be nice 'reward' for my long standing gameplaying loyalty :) oh I use a CC I dont use GTC's. bollo Power of Two is only for new accounts created with this offer, not discount for existing accounts. Originally by: Tam Elbrun is it possible to just use paypal funds for this offer? would be nice to have a alt miner :) The only method of payment for this is credit card (or debit card). Originally by: Various posters I still can't get the Power of Two offer to show up even though I meet all requirements (paraphrased). I will send off another email so we can check what is happening. Originally by: Various posters Why do we pay so much more in EUR than those paying in USD (paraphrased)? As we have said before, the main reason for the difference in cost is the EU VAT, which is basically a tax in most of Europe. There is an additional difference in price, which is due to the USD being weak right now. We have decided not to increase the price in USD for now, if that decision changes we will announce it. I hope this clears up some questions and I will get back to you with more information on the Power of Two offer not showing up for some of you when I know more.
galen iridani	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:42:00 - [81] I Would like to have a second account, 1 simple problem... I log into account, no button or anything to create a second account :( I recently re-joined eve a week or 2 ago, asked support about it, they said my account was not active when the power of 2 was out, so tuff luck :( Now it has been extended and i have been active, how come i can't get a second account? CCP I am willing to pay for a second account, are you going to turn me down? I think it is a bit sad you dont just let anyone have a second account, after all it's extra revenue for CCP I thought this mr disgruntled customer covered my issue well - except that I have tried a bunch of times with different browsers to look for a way to purchase the promotions account. I am Mac user but not a tech luddite ccp wrangler you are my only hope! Mord -- and here is the worst thing I sent in a support request via email and got a insultingly silly response. Here it is "Thank you for contacting EVE-online Customer Support. This is an automated reply to let you know that we have received your message and will address it as soon as possible. If you have not already done so, you may want to go through the Knowledge Base and to see if you can find a solution to your problem there. Please do not file additional petitions about this incident. If you wish to update your active petition, please reply to this mail instead of sending a second one." um Gee that is the dumbest form letter I have ever been sent. I have tried a billion times to log on and take advantage of this offer and I assure you on my firefox or my safari brower -- either one -- there is no way to create an account and get this power of two promotion or any way to have the issue inteligently addressed by email support. Please CCP wrangly take care of this. With no live or phone support having a tech glitch this persistent and email support so idiotic and form letterish. I am wondering about my first account. show me you can get something done. Thanks Again Mord
CoolGryphen	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:46:00 - [82] OK, I upgraded my trial account to a full account less than 3 hours ago. When I go to https://secure.eve-online.com/AccountManMenu.aspx I see buttons for: Account details, Subscription Details, Account services, Enable Eve voice, Update subscription interval, Change password, got a new credit card?, and cancel subscription. I can't figure out how to proceed. Am I "Missing the button", or just not seeing it? Also, when I go to purchase this power of two, can I do it with a debit card other than the one I'm using to pay for my normal subscription?
watermelon420	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:58:00 - [83] CCP is doing a great job advertising promotions that don't work for half the people who want it. there's a lot of people on this thread that can't access this deal and I'm sure there's more, but CCP isn't doing **** all about it. If by monday this "bug" or whatever it is still isn't fixed, then I'll know exacly what kind of customer care they have.
Athelas Loraiel Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:13:00 - [84] bump!!!
Tristan Michaels	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:24:00 - [85] I just want an answer to a simple question. Can we or can we not activate a trial account for Po2? If so, how? If not, why not?
D4rk T3mpl4r	Posted - 2007.11.11 03:21:00 - [86] "I just want an answer to a simple question. Can we or can we not activate a trial account for Po2? If so, how? If not, why not?" BUMP!!! Please respond
Solbright altalt	Posted - 2007.11.11 03:26:00 - [87] Vote for Skill Queue
Everest Bradshaw	Posted - 2007.11.11 10:36:00 - [88] I want to take advantage of the Power of Two offer but it is not showing up on my Account Details page. Please help me!! Thanks.
Athelas Loraiel Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.11.11 10:44:00 - [89] c'mon folks, it's sunday! BUMP!
Haar'Lequin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.11.11 11:27:00 - [90] CCP, Can you extend the offer until friday. I have just joined up with a trial account with a friend and were bringing about 7 more players into the Universe. The thing is we all work together and get paid on this coming Friday once a month. Im not what you would call a saving $$ type but i would definately have that cash in your account then! Harl
Archton	Posted - 2007.11.11 13:07:00 - [91] This sucks.. I really want to accept this offer but the account management page is giving me no way to do it. I've been waiting for this to get fixed since the offer first started, but it still wont work. And my account is active and has been for nearly a month. What the hell is going on CCP? Do you NOT want my money?
CoolGryphen	Posted - 2007.11.11 13:26:00 - [92] Quote: The Power of Two offer is open for everyone who has had an active account before Wednesday. Found that in game...Rather frustrating for me since one of the reasons I signed up for the game is that I would be able to have my own "minion" During the trial I had the pleasure of loosing 2 ships to "When worlds collide", and figured having a second ship to take some of the fire, and help pick off targets would be great. So, I join up, and thenlearn that The very offer that sealed the deal for me is not available to me? Talk about frustrating... If I were in charge of making this offer, it would be standard, and never have an expiration...If you can only use it once (not get an account that is permanently cheaper), and it leaves you with a second subscription, doesn't that help CCP in the long run? The "Where is the button" bug with this is just making frustrated customers...but it is only frustrating those who want to take advantage of this offer.
Foppemoa Caldari Royal Swedish Capsulers Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.11 13:44:00 - [93] Meh I still can't create a second account since i only get teh "Not Authorized" notice when trying to pay for it. Even though my credit card works fine for everything else :/ -------------------------------------------- Originally by: GLaDOS "But there is no sense crying over every mistake You just keep on trying until you run out of cake"
Redael Rats	Posted - 2007.11.11 15:30:00 - [94] Edited by: Redael Rats on 11/11/2007 15:36:41 Quote: The Power of Two is available to everyone with an active EVE subscription. (Trial accounts are not eligible.) The special package includes account creation and six months of game time for a reduced price. To take part of this offer, please visit Account Management. This offer is only valid until Monday, November 12. It appears from the latest home page announcement that Po2 is available to all active accounts not just the ones that were active before Wednesday. However, it still is not available for me on My Account page. I only activated this account because of Po2 and was disappointed when the Wednesday qualifier was buried quite deeper than the announcement. Now the announcement is on the home page and I still can not use this offer.
watermelon420	Posted - 2007.11.11 19:51:00 - [95] CCP don't like us nor our money. They like to advertise things that don't work for half the people and not do anything about it blizzard had more customer support then this BS
ayrgin	Posted - 2007.11.11 21:37:00 - [96] I too am awaiting news from a petition on how to take advantage of this Power of 2 offer with a trial account I started. I joined first of October and got to liking the game and tried taking advantage of the Power of 2 offer then. did not see offer on my account screen so I sent a petition. I received a reply that since my account had not been created before the original offer was made, I was ineligible. OK I accepted that and then decided to go ahead and start a trial account to see how I liked running two account and at the end of that time period make it into a full account. NOW they extend the Power of 2 offer and I am unable to take advantage of this with my trial account. I have already invested a lot of time and skill points into the characters on this account to throw away, esp when it has kinda become my main. Unless they allow trial and buddy accounts to be able to use this, I might as well cancel my first account if this is how customer support is on this simple of an issue especially concerning the making of money for the company. And I don't want to make it now a paid account for $20 start fee and lets say pay for 6 months ( $71.70 ) = $91.70. Same thing, I have no desire to pay the $50 for this Po2 offer and see if I can transfer the trial account one for another $20 = $70. Does this company want mine and others monies or what ?
Ulysses Sirius	Posted - 2007.11.11 22:02:00 - [97] Maybe they'll extend it again with less restrictive rules, or make a similar permanent offer. It'd probably be a good business move; I never really considered a 2nd account until I saw this offer. If I could do it (I'm not eligible either for some reason?) I would, but ah well.
Saadow	Posted - 2007.11.11 23:08:00 - [98] Edited by: Saadow on 11/11/2007 23:14:54 I made a petition yesterday, still no answer. started playing 6 weeks ago, activated a month ago.. Can't see the button. Pretty frustrating. edit: actually I solved it by writing https://secure.eve-online.com/poweroftwo.aspx ERROR: You do not qualify for the Power of 2 offer. aww, no fair.
Sharmagne	Posted - 2007.11.11 23:13:00 - [99] Thank you for the extension, however I do not get paid until Wednesday. I hope that I get to purchase another account at a later time. Thanks, we are sorry that we are missing out. Sharmagne
Xae Hou	Posted - 2007.11.12 00:44:00 - [100] Originally by: Mina Lecour Thanks for the answers then Wrangler, too bad I can't join in the offer. Wouldn't hurt though if you gave out a little bit more information to begin with next time. If I knew about the trial account thing last week I would've upgraded to full in time. Agreed...the initial posting said that all accounts would be able to update to Po2, however they just updated the page today noting the Wednesday cutoff date: power of two offer ends on monday! reported by CCP Wrangler \| 2007.11.11 18:31:43 \| NEW It's unfortunate, I was going to go with one Po2 and a third for S&Gs. Oh well.
RU Sirius Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2007.11.12 09:30:00 - [101] I have tried this twice now. The first time it created a "username"2 login and asked for a password. Password does not work. I forgot about it. I tried it just now and it created a "username"3 login and asked for a password. Then I had to enter personal details (huh?) and credit card info. Click next and nothing happens. go to subscription details, it's the details of my original account (huh?). I log out and log in as my original main. Everything is fine. I try to login as "username"3 and it won't accept my password. Have i been billed for the other 2 accounts? Who knows. The whole system is totally ****** up. If I have been billed I'll be suing.
Dorkquemada	Posted - 2007.11.12 10:26:00 - [102] Going to the URL directly also tells me that I don't qualify. However I have had this account for a little over a month now. Fix this please :(

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:40:00 - [103] A lot of people who couldn't see the Power of Two offer will now be able to use it! Please head over to Account Management to activate your second account. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Foppemoa Caldari Royal Swedish Capsulers Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.12 13:05:00 - [104] Originally by: CCP Wrangler A lot of people who couldn't see the Power of Two offer will now be able to use it! Please head over to Account Management to activate your second account. Any idea why credit card verification isn't working for everyone? (a.k.a: me) I tried using two different CC's, using different browsers and shutting down everything that could use some kind of bandwith to disrupt it. But all i get is "Not Authorized" :/ -------------------------------------------- Originally by: GLaDOS "But there is no sense crying over every mistake You just keep on trying until you run out of cake"
caladron prime	Posted - 2007.11.12 16:18:00 - [105] worked fine for me. No issues.
CoolGryphen	Posted - 2007.11.12 16:26:00 - [106] I just signed up. Thank you. Why isn't your card working? I had that problem until I realized the name on that card had initials instead of my first name like I was putting in. When it asks for your full name, make sure it matches your card (that was my problem, but maybe not your's).
Athelas Loraiel Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.11.12 20:53:00 - [107] is it a new prolongation?
Foppemoa Caldari Royal Swedish Capsulers Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.13 08:14:00 - [108] I don't know why my card wasn't working the first weeks or so. But yesterday about 20 minutes i got home from work i got the second response to my petition (first one was basically that they where aware of a problem). Basically it was a "try again now" response, and then it worked. with the exact same card and the exact same information written like the other times. Don't know the reason for it not functioning properly, and now i don't really care. I got my second account so i'm satisfied ;) -------------------------------------------- Originally by: GLaDOS "But there is no sense crying over every mistake You just keep on trying until you run out of cake"
Lord XSiV Amarr Serenity Technology and Research Services	Posted - 2007.11.13 15:35:00 - [109] If I might make a suggestion as to the timing of the offer.... It may be a better idea to run it through the holidays as it may make a nice gift. I know I like probably quite a few others due to our age category would like to get our little ones accounts. As well, it would bring better uptake during the time of year when people have more of a chance to play.
KOOLLAYDTAC	Posted - 2007.11.14 06:42:00 - [110] How about giving us the power of three and allowing our characters to actually be trainable without having to stop one for the other. That might actually be impressive for a change.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.14 08:42:00 - [111] The Power of Two offer has now ended, we hope everyone who signed up will enjoy their second account. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."


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