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Fakevox
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Posted - 2007.11.28 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Fakevox on 28/11/2007 15:28:09
I don't fly dictors though I've often thought about it and I have to agree this nerf takes the ****. Even at their current speed I can land hits on a dictor that is flying headlong towards my fleet using medium artillery because the transversal is always low enough and they take too long to reach if they zig zag too much anyway.
On the other hand I have to agree that ceptors are in dire need of some attention but nothings gonna stop a faction fitted minmatar recon from raping my stiletto within 5 secs of any engagement.
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Tadehiro
Kudzu Collective
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.28 17:46:00 -
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And to all the naysayers:
I've seen nano fitted Ishtars used to good effect (look at KOS losses if you don't believe me). They go around 5km/s
I've seen nano fitted sacrileges used to great effect (one of our gang's pilots uses it, 4.5km/s. Think an uber fast cerberus with slightly less tank).
I've seen nano'd cerberuses used to good effect going ar around 3.9km/s.
Now look at these, and wonder how the hell a normal dictor is going to survive against ANY of those if said dictor has a cruiser's sig radius, a frigates health and tankability, and the speed of a battleship (2km/s). They go in, they bubble, they run away. That's my eris tactic, I only get to shoot if the rook in our group jams said target and if the rapier webs said target. Then and ONLY then do I dare get close, and if you say that is somehow overpowered, well then you've got to nerf recons too then.
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NeoTheo
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.28 17:52:00 -
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nano cerb ain tgoing that fast without imps and faction mwd.
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Tadehiro
Kudzu Collective
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.28 17:53:00 -
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 Originally by: NeoTheo
nano cerb ain tgoing that fast without imps and faction mwd.
Oh he had implants. He sent a very pleasent hate mail after we popped his pod. 
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NeoTheo
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.28 17:55:00 -
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Edited by: NeoTheo on 28/11/2007 17:55:29
Originally by: Tadehiro
Originally by: NeoTheo
nano cerb ain tgoing that fast without imps and faction mwd.
Oh he had implants. He sent a very pleasent hate mail after we popped his pod.
rofl :), <--- cerb pilot myself, nano cerbs are crap, if you wanna nano a caldari cruiser, the navy cara is the one to go with, as its a LOT lighter mass wise.
anyhow with that said, i think something kinda does need to be done to tame dictors, however, i certainly dont think nerfing dictor speed is the way to go, speed needs looking at as a whole issue on its self, not by nerfing individual ships.
/Theo
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Karina Bellac
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Posted - 2007.11.28 18:09:00 -
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So what was the original problem?
"Interdictors" were "too fast"?
Does "too fast" mean "faster than Interceptors"?
Does "Interdictors" actually mean "Interdictors with Polycarbons"?
Does "Interceptors" actually mean "Interceptors without Polycarbons"?
So was the original problem "Interdictors with Polycarbons were faster than Interceptors without Polycarbons?"
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Tadehiro
Kudzu Collective
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.28 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tadehiro on 28/11/2007 18:11:49
Originally by: NeoTheo
rofl :), <--- cerb pilot myself, nano cerbs are crap, if you wanna nano a caldari cruiser, the navy cara is the one to go with, as its a LOT lighter mass wise.
anyhow with that said, i think something kinda does need to be done to tame dictors, however, i certainly dont think nerfing dictor speed is the way to go, speed needs looking at as a whole issue on its self, not by nerfing individual ships.
/Theo
Agreed... I wouldn't ***** so much about this nerf if they were nerfing ALL ship speeds (I don't mind ceptors going faster then me, that's something I can live with). I'm just ticked that I'm going about as fast as a freaking TYPHOON, nevermind most speed crusiers.
Originally by: Karina Bellac
So what was the original problem?
"Interdictors" were "too fast"?
Does "too fast" mean "faster than Interceptors"?
Does "Interdictors" actually mean "Interdictors with Polycarbons"?
Does "Interceptors" actually mean "Interceptors without Polycarbons"?
So was the original problem "Interdictors with Polycarbons were faster than Interceptors without Polycarbons?"
Help me out here.
Basically most ceptor pilots were *****ing because a gisti'd polycarboned dictor with implants in were going faster then thier T2 fitted non implanted non rigged interceptor.
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G Mooo
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.11.29 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tadehiro
Edited by: Tadehiro on 28/11/2007 18:11:49
Agreed... I wouldn't ***** so much about this nerf if they were nerfing ALL ship speeds (I don't mind ceptors going faster then me, that's something I can live with). I'm just ticked that I'm going about as fast as a freaking TYPHOON, nevermind most speed crusiers.
Originally by: Karina Bellac
So what was the original problem?
"Interdictors" were "too fast"?
Does "too fast" mean "faster than Interceptors"?
Does "Interdictors" actually mean "Interdictors with Polycarbons"?
Does "Interceptors" actually mean "Interceptors without Polycarbons"?
So was the original problem "Interdictors with Polycarbons were faster than Interceptors without Polycarbons?"
Help me out here.
Basically most ceptor pilots were *****ing because a gisti'd polycarboned dictor with implants in were going faster then thier T2 fitted non implanted non rigged interceptor.
I've poly'ed a sabre before, was a great ship, till it met a rapier + heretic. :)
In order to get dictors to a survivable point you have to spend a decent amount of isk on them (just 2x poly's costs 100mil with normal prices). So ya, if i spend 130-150 mil on a ship that is "anti-frigate" i would expect to have a chance killing ceptors, even if i do have to use some tricks to web 'em since they are still faster than me (with just t2 fitting).
Destroyers are fairly useless, why make the t2 version the same.
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Andreya
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.11.29 04:44:00 -
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a sabre has to fight within web range in order for it to do its damage, yes, they may kill intys easily, (so can a heretic) but you realize SOMETHING has to be able to catch and kill intys, and intys got a speed buff with the new changes as they dont need to fit cap mods, and can just fit ALL speed mods now.. intys go 25% faster than even the sabre IF the inty isnt fitted by a moron.
dictors need speed to survive. and dictors should be faster than everything but an inty.
dictors are flimsy ONE web on a dictor, with someone else shooting it, and its dead. not to mention they have the new Hyena as well... theres no reason to nerf dictors
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Jallem Sims
Minmatar
Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2007.11.29 10:08:00 -
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do we know why this is happening?
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.11.29 11:03:00 -
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they promote heavy dictor in order to make you skill em
nerfing = making you change = skill time = money
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Jallem Sims
Minmatar
Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2007.11.29 13:24:00 -
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edit* removed text when i realised i had already posted
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