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Faegas
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Posted - 2004.03.04 03:27:00 -
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Seems simple enough just all become pirates  They keep telling us how week regular players are, so become like them. True eventually it desolve eve or make ccp take drastic measures, but hey its going that way anyway The longer I play this game, the more I realise pirates are gonna out number us very soon, so honestly whats the point in being anything else? the pirates certainly cant be arsed to play that way, why should you? True a lack of victims might be a prob but hey u cant have everything and more importantly you wont be so much of a victim yourself :) if u cant beat em, join em 
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Gary Gutspiller
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Posted - 2004.03.04 04:14:00 -
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Boring ----------------------------------
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GATORAN
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Posted - 2004.03.04 05:16:00 -
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Hiya Gary! nice to see ya :)
*read more in my ingame bio! Welcome |

Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.03.04 07:01:00 -
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Quote: well, you ever thought about he poor riods in space? man thy cant defend themself at all and thy have been flying aroung ins space for millions of years in peace! and there comes some dudes with mining lasers and cut them in pieces alive? man, thas cruel and brutal! as long as Nafri is in space i cant let you kill the poor stones!
the Stone of Love told me to do so!
Hail Stone of Love
hahhaha i never thought of that before. You miners out there...your all murderers!!!! So all the Pk'er and pirates that are taking out all the miners are really saving all the roids. You see people its nothing to do with cash....they just love stones. --------------------------------------------- The world is a battle field, pass me my gun! The Black Ops Recruiting. combat Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes XXXXXXXX, wrecking for 518.0 damage. |

LCPL Franklin
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Posted - 2004.03.04 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: LCPL Franklin on 04/03/2004 09:50:11 fair? who gives a $hit about fair! if anything a pirate more subconsciously complains about fairness, "its unfair that an honest career is so much more difficult" the honorable ones are the ones who don't go for the quick cash, but they earn it. Anyone can pirate, esspecially in groups, the players that go for the challenge are the ones that lead honest lives within EVE. fair pffft.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.04 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Fanible on 04/03/2004 10:19:31
See I don't know really how to side with either of the two.
On one hand if I were a pirate I would of realised that the dude ment 9+3=11 and then proceeded to explain that what I really ment was 20mil will be satisfactory.
On the other hand taking so much time is really risky, as one could log out and back in and simply disappear, as well as call for backup. There is no way to know wether or not a cruiser warping in is not a corp mate(especially after so uch time), and you would not take the time to check as even a cruiser could do some serious damage and allow the caputured to escape. Maybe all this could of worked out if that moron hadn't warped in, and in my opinion is the only idiot in this situation. For I wouldn't of just assumed this was not a corp mate, and also assumed that he could not do major damage. I would of wasted my prisoner quickly and get out of there or THEN proceed in finding out if this warpee could actually fight me off.
Further more if I have a battleship I never mine in low level sectors without some serious defense, or usually with a team of miners. Mining by yourself in such an expensive ship with no proper defense or gear, as well as no one around to help you is your own fault.
But then again im coming back to the final destruction of severed's ship, for even though you had paid part of it, the final real situation was a spur of the moment kinda thing due to another idiot interfering. In that sense I do feel like Tank should return the money as the as you really didn't get a chance to figure out that he ment 11 more mil and died before you got a chance to finish paying.
See now that makes sense to me, but I also come back to this again. A pirate's point of view, which you were taking pretty long, and you shouldn't of had that thing out there with no proper protection to begin with.
But then once again I come back to the fact that you did pay him something and I don't feel like because some other idiot came along that you had to suffer basicly two folds.... paying and dying.
My conclusion if I were your parents would be Tank gives back atleast 6 mil. He did waste his time so I don't think he should go away empty handed. On the other hand it sucks even more for severed as everything that unfolded was crap for him.
I can probably say however that none of this is gonna happen anyhow, cause this would basicly be proving Tank wrong on everything and he has too much pride and an ego to let that happen.
I feel that Tank had enough respect that he waited as long as he did, but I also feel that sever had even more so because he didn't try logout/login, and he also didn't call for backup, as the judgement lead.
If Tank was a really honorable person (in RL) he would do this. But yes, life isn't fair, and crap happens. If this space game on the other hand was RL, none of us would be having this conversation right now. Instead, it would go as normal... people who don't like pirates would hunt pirates or people wanting bounties would hunt pirates. Tank would be a prime target in this. And as Tank acted on instinct to a suprise attack there would really be no need to repay anything in real life. You'd go on about your business.
Instead, sever you should just make it a plan to kill Tank, as so many others probably have already.
...But then again, this isn't real life. Lol, this whole thing is kind of none winning for either side. 
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.03.04 10:50:00 -
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Ouch. after reading all that my head hurts. your confused.....i think i am now too.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.04 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Fanible on 04/03/2004 11:42:56 Actually im not confused. That's just how nuts it is.
Sorry for confusing you though.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.03.04 11:14:00 -
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you...bu..duhh....huh? *brains drooling out of ears* --------------------------------------------- The world is a battle field, pass me my gun! The Black Ops Recruiting. combat Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes XXXXXXXX, wrecking for 518.0 damage. |

Avon
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Posted - 2004.03.04 11:41:00 -
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Tank, wire me the cash .. then I am the bad guy and you are all innocent :)
/emote longs for the SP days back. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |

Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.04 12:39:00 -
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Honor in this game has nothing to do with my real life anything. Anything in this game has nothing to do with real life cept for of coarse my personality with people on Teamspeak and corp mates. AS for severed, if he woulda logged out, well, he woulda died instantly cause I was ready for that cause I expect it alot because alot of people do it and he wouldnt of survived for more then 10 seconds. ---
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DrStrangelove
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Posted - 2004.03.04 13:23:00 -
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From Severed:
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I also already stated that the belt and this person in the cruiser were 150km away, what could they do from there?
A BB equipped correctly could save you from that range. Not to mention anyone warping in could be considered a scout for another BS waiting in another system. It takes no time to jump-in and warp exactly to where the scout says to ruin Tanks ransom.
From Amulek:
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 you know im right! 11 mil for a bs isn nuff! hey and why are you in m0o???? , BTW we met before in the old TLBC days.... =). (im not amulek, thats nelixs second account im deadflip!!!!!!) And BTW, i only got 25k isk spare money =), i always mine the exact amount i need to buy what i want.... 
You were in TLBC? Hmm donĘt remember, but then itĘs been a long while. I have been in m0o since we decided to disband the Club.
m0o corp
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.04 13:27:00 -
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I'm not a pirate. Never have been but I see no problem here at all.
Tank is a pirate, they can do whatever the **** they want because they are answerable to no-one.
He told you his price. He dropped it down to a reasonable amount. You didn't pay, you died.
Personally, if I was a miner and saw a pirate drop into the system, I wouldn't sit around waiting for him to come and gank me in my belt.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.03.04 13:44:00 -
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pssschhtt preachy, dont tell them to run 
Ok, Miners of the World, your safe in you belts, try to stay there and dont move when pirates come in! thy will think your at safespot and search for you at the planets!
STAY IN YOUR BELTS, ITS MUCH SAFER!
"The Stone Of Love" has spoken Wanna fly with me?
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Kuga
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Posted - 2004.03.04 14:54:00 -
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obviously, we have a case of misunderstanding during communication. If the price was 30mio, and Tank gave some 33% discount, it is still 20mio not 11mio. I guess severed just had bad luck not having liquid funds. Anything else is crap. Including the statement, that you cant fly a bs if you dont have at least 30mio in your wallet. Afaik it just requires BS-skill.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2004.03.04 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kozak on 04/03/2004 15:20:21 Well, if there is anything I learned from this thread it's that if i'm in a battleship, and cought with my guard down, I'll just loose my ship. I only carry replaceble equipment and I rather pick up my insurance then pay someone and have the slightest chance of me being blown up afterwards.
I know you guys say that if I pay I won't die, but what if someone warps into a belt I'm mining and you think it's my corp mate or a bounty hunter and you blow me up while I'm transferring the cash? I still loose my ship and from the looks of it no pirate that responded here would pay the money back.
So if your cought for ransom by any pirate, start thinking about replacing your ship, cause paying a pirate is no guarantee of anything, but insurance is a sure thing.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.03.04 15:22:00 -
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Quote:
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Oh, btw, I later heard that my corpmate in a Caracal cruiser caught up with him after the podding, and the mighty tank had to run off and log. What tactic is that??
O yes, caracals own ravens and im soooo scared of caracals, omg they pwn me. bahahahah
dont forget i defeated you in a caracal once   --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!! |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.04 15:23:00 -
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Quote: I still loose my ship and from the looks of it no pirate that responded here would pay the money back.
No, what they are saying is that if you pay the money in full then there won't be a problem.
SPVD have replaced money in the past (*****cat was one who did it for sure) for accidental shootings.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.04 18:10:00 -
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This issue is now dead, I have better things to do. An annoymous player created a alt to pay reparations to me. Don't know who it really is, but the plan is good with me. I dont need to spread the word about dishonorable rats in the game. This guy has more money than time, and has alot of time to drop ads all over the place. Suffice to say, your debt to me has been bought by "PublicServiceAnnouncement" If you want to be a honorable man, send the money to him. And to those who wish to flame, know this: I don't care, I already know I'm a nobody. Click. ___________________________________________________________ All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. |

Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.04 22:41:00 -
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Go ahead, waste your time saying what your going to say, people already think what you say about me anywas, do I care, hell no. ---
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Kinnison
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Posted - 2004.03.05 09:03:00 -
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Quote: Go ahead, waste your time saying what your going to say, people already think what you say about me anywas, do I care, hell no.
Ask yourself this Tank: How many noobs have you made leave EVE? How much new content could have been put in with the money they would have brought into ccp? Oops, sorry, forgot, all new content means to you is something new to blow up.
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Haxar
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Posted - 2004.03.05 10:10:00 -
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Quote: Ask yourself this Tank: How many noobs have you made leave EVE? How much new content could have been put in with the money they would have brought into ccp? Oops, sorry, forgot, all new content means to you is something new to blow up.
Not more content, as i bet CCP has a quite tight timeframe for every step. And n00bs in space lower than 0.5 should know the consequences at all. (Jeh i know 0.5 and up isn't safe at all, but that's not the topic )
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Lilith Danu
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Posted - 2004.03.05 11:10:00 -
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For God's sake will someone lock this thread its becoming an embarrassment to everyone on it 
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Haxar
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Posted - 2004.03.05 11:26:00 -
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Quote: For God's sake will someone lock this thread its becoming an embarrassment to everyone on it 
One solution would be that you stop to bump it to the top 
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Cmdr Sp0ck
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:26:00 -
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Sorry for your loss severed, but the mistake was mainly yours and not Tank's. Why? Because you believed him and paid up. If you dont pay the pirates they dont win its that simple. All they get is maybe some loot from your ship. You lose your ship, but they dont get much for it, except maybe some fun.  Tank was in his right to blow you up, as it was a low sec system. He's a pirate and thats the role he chose. So if you trust him to pay the ransom or not, you proceed at your own risk. But this is just my opinion. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You humans are extremely irritant with your illogical behaviour and irrational thought" -------- |

Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.03.05 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Chaz Pounder on 05/03/2004 16:24:34 What a ass .. he destryes for us who keep our word .. I even hade to wire back 20 mill becors a few torps slipped away :).
For me is isk the only thing i cear about .. if they dont pay thay end up in a egg.. if thay pay np leting em go .. well thats how we work tho. Ez as that.
hint -The "evil doers" is under threat of extermination in EVE- Call international HOT-LINE 555-ccpdontreallycareaslongasthaygettheremonthlypayche |

Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.05 17:56:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Go ahead, waste your time saying what your going to say, people already think what you say about me anywas, do I care, hell no.
Ask yourself this Tank: How many noobs have you made leave EVE? How much new content could have been put in with the money they would have brought into ccp? Oops, sorry, forgot, all new content means to you is something new to blow up.
Lol, nothing makes you whining carebears happy. I kill battleships, try to be a pirate, you still say their noobs, face it, you just hate pirates, you must hate pvp, your selfish, incosiderate for other peoples fun. Im playing my role here. You need to ask yourself how many people (veteran pirates) you forced to quit because of your endless crying to CCp. ---
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.03.06 05:21:00 -
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Awwww... don't say that Tank... you're one of the few pirates who are worthy of respect.
You got mine, at least... and that, my man, ain't easy. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:04:00 -
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Gotta love a good brown noser like s3vyn =P
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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M0RIARTY
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Posted - 2004.03.06 12:27:00 -
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o_O
enough already............. this thread still going  Noo sig comming SOONÖ =================================================== What are we going to do about all this ignorance and apathy?.... I don't know and I don't care! |
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