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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:08:00 -
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While mining a .3 system, got a bit careless with watching local channel. A bigtime Pirate (from a bigtime Pirate Corp) warps into belt, scrambles my armageddon (equipped for straight-up mining), convos asking for ransom. All that I had and could borrow from my corpmates was 11 mill. This rat who remanes nameless (for now) accepted my offer of 11 mill, after wiring it over, still destoys my ship and podkills me. So he gets away with my loot and my cash??
Afterward he did send 1 mill back because he did destroy me.
I am not upset because I died, You were better than me, you had me locked up tight and on the brink of death. Just thought you would be a man of your word. After all, if pirates dont honor their promise to let go after ransom is paid, NO ONE will ever pay ransom again
If the remainder of my cash is not returned, your corp's name and your name will be revealed. Thank you and happy piratingscreenshot (names removed)
You also said you thought I was lying about how much money I had, you can now see the balance on my wallet at the times of my ransom payment.
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:14:00 -
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nice ship ;]
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:15:00 -
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I have to ask: Why did you not equip warp-core stabilizers if you're in an Armageddom? It has more than enough lo-slots that you should be practically impossible to warp-scramble.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:18:00 -
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just name him, if u kept it clean and didnt smack talk him, i cant see why he would ransom u then kill u, if its as u say, pretty lame, and only makes his corp look bad.
Tell us who it is:).
Oh and, u are as poor as me .
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:29:00 -
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Im sorry to heare about your losses. Well not so sorry about your losses but really sorry for this massmurderer that pretends to be a pirate. This kind of captains are expelled from all pirate unions i can name.
I aks you not to spread the word about this beeing a pirate. He/she gives us all wich are propper pirates a bad name. I will my self be more then happy to return his favore for you.
A propper pirate like my self and my co workers would never, i say again never ever kill a pilote that have payed our fair commisions. Not only that, but a captains paying is free to travle our systems and gates for the rest of that day.
Contact me ingame captain and i shall see to that this bug is squised as should be.
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Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Outcastino
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:36:00 -
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I hate that. You should hunt his ass ;). And thats not poor....all the time i have 200k in my wallet :P, but hey i give everything to my corp ;)
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:52:00 -
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I hate a pirate that doesn't keep to their word.
Thats the only thing that makes us honorable.
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Jai Kedrick
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Posted - 2004.03.02 18:13:00 -
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Hmm...whatever happened to the old addage...honour amonst thieves!! ;)
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Kinnison
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Posted - 2004.03.02 18:26:00 -
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While mining a .3 system, got a bit careless with watching local channel. A bigtime Pirate (from a bigtime Pirate Corp) warps into belt, scrambles my armageddon (equipped for straight-up mining), convos asking for ransom. All that I had and could borrow from my corpmates was 11 mill. This rat who remanes nameless (for now) accepted my offer of 11 mill, after wiring it over, still destoys my ship and podkills me. So he gets away with my loot and my cash??
Afterward he did send 1 mill back because he did destroy me.
I am not upset because I died, You were better than me, you had me locked up tight and on the brink of death. Just thought you would be a man of your word. After all, if pirates dont honor their promise to let go after ransom is paid, NO ONE will ever pay ransom again
If the remainder of my cash is not returned, your corp's name and your name will be revealed. Thank you and happy piratingscreenshot (names removed)
You also said you thought I was lying about how much money I had, you can now see the balance on my wallet at the times of my ransom payment.
Why are you surprised?
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Fenris'ar
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Posted - 2004.03.02 18:29:00 -
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Just give us his name and he will be kos among Anti pirates AND pirates :)
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:18:00 -
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Im sorry to heare about your losses. Well not so sorry about your losses but really sorry for this massmurderer that pretends to be a pirate. This kind of captains are expelled from all pirate unions i can name.
I aks you not to spread the word about this beeing a pirate. He/she gives us all wich are propper pirates a bad name. I will my self be more then happy to return his favore for you.
A propper pirate like my self and my co workers would never, i say again never ever kill a pilote that have payed our fair commisions. Not only that, but a captains paying is free to travle our systems and gates for the rest of that day.
Contact me ingame captain and i shall see to that this bug is squised as should be.
Why did you not want to play with us last night Lady Beeblebrox?
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Grizwold
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:22:00 -
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Beeblebrox - I thought you were a pirate hunter? Couldn't fight peeps that fought back and now you hunt indy's...shame.
I had thought better of you...pity.
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:29:00 -
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Beeblebrox - I thought you were a pirate hunter? Couldn't fight peeps that fought back and now you hunt indy's...shame.
I had thought better of you...pity.
Your right sir. I love PVP but hate when they fire back. This is why i turned pirate.
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Teddybears movies
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:35:00 -
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wow, fairly surprising to not get much more flaming on this. just one backhanded compliment to my noobship, one shot at my lack of warp stabilizers.
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That guy should be considered a pk'er, griefer or whatever, but is not worthy bearing the name 'pirate'.
IMHO, A player claims to be a pirate as soon as he convos looking for ransom. If this one does not return my cash, he will publicly be declared a griefer and a liar, he will not recieve any more ramsoms. I will spam every gate in the empire with ads that he and his corp will just kill you anyway.
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Just give us his name and he will be kos among Anti pirates AND pirates :)
Getting my money back means more to me than revenge. I will stand by my initial decision. All in due time. His corp might boot him, but that wont help me
And another quick note to my buddy out there, that amount of cash is tough for a hard working 6-month player to get, it probably means very little to a veteran like you.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:40:00 -
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I very much doubt it was one of my guys, but if it was, evemail me, please.
SPVD don't stand by this sort of behaviour. Not at all.
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Mikelangelo
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:49:00 -
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He won't give your 10 mil back.
Why you ask? Simple.
Because you are asking him to trust you to not reveal the name of his corp.
The same way you were trusting him to not blow you up when you wired him the money.
You dont trust him, he doesn't trust you. This relationship is obviously going nowhere.
So you might as well spill the beans on the forums, so we can all have a good laugh and a nice flame fest. I'll bring the marshmellows. 
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Rangloff
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Posted - 2004.03.02 20:12:00 -
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severed you should just go ahead and name that scum. It would cause him more agony than giving up 11 mil. c0w's #1 rule is to adhere to all ransoms and tolls for the very reason stated earlier. If your word is broken noone will ever trust you enough to pay.
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.02 20:43:00 -
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severed you should just go ahead and name that scum. It would cause him more agony than giving up 11 mil. c0w's #1 rule is to adhere to all ransoms and tolls for the very reason stated earlier. If your word is broken noone will ever trust you enough to pay.
I am banking on the fact that he realises how much agony it would cause him to be cast out, and not be trusted to be paid ransom ever again. I just want my money back, no need to grief him if he does pay up
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b0ing
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Posted - 2004.03.02 20:48:00 -
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reveal his name please.
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.02 20:52:00 -
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He won't give your 10 mil back.
Why you ask? Simple.
Because you are asking him to trust you to not reveal the name of his corp.
The same way you were trusting him to not blow you up when you wired him the money.
You dont trust him, he doesn't trust you. This relationship is obviously going nowhere.
So you might as well spill the beans on the forums, so we can all have a good laugh and a nice flame fest. I'll bring the marshmellows.
There is a difference, he does not have a reason not to trust my word. As a "law abiding" citizen of eve, my word should mean something. And if I gave his name after he pays back, I will be just as bad as he, (actually worse) because, once the beans are spilled, no turning back. Furthermore, if I doublecross him, he can continually hunt me down and cause even more harm
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Blooded Heromy
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Posted - 2004.03.02 20:55:00 -
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Ok runnin away with the isk and destroy the ship is lame
But that fact you did not have warpcorestab because you was afk minin and did not spent a lowslot for that item is plain stupidness, so i say FAT COMES hahhaah
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.03.02 21:05:00 -
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yes, some pirates are realy dirty scum.
i like it
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TauTut
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Posted - 2004.03.02 21:14:00 -
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I'm not a great believer in natural selection .. but after reading this, I can see the benefits.
-TT
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Ignition
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Posted - 2004.03.02 22:07:00 -
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Aye that does suck, i always let ppl go that paid, but it was so rare that they did pay in the 1st place that it really isnt a factor.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.03.02 22:10:00 -
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well, i would have podded too 
Wanna fly with me?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.02 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 02/03/2004 22:37:20
Edited by: Tank CEO on 02/03/2004 22:35:19
That pirate would be me, but of coarse, this person seemed to have left out alot of details, first of all, the ransom was 30 million. Severed kept me there for 20 minutes saying that hes going to get the money. He then sends me 8 mill and then he says he has 11 mill, so I said send that making it 19 mill. He sends me 3 mill instead. He did not say he couldnt afford 30 mill, he just kept saying he would get it and kept me waiting there for that long. And to add to that, when I had just got him jammed, cruisers started to warp in and attack me, so I then said in local for no one to warp into the belt or he is going to die. So after he sent me 3 mill, i said that was not enough and then I saw a cruiser warp in, so that broke the deal right there so I killed him.
It still doesnt matter anywas, the deal was 30 mill and u get to keep ur ship, he sent me 11 mill, that wasnt my word. I said, send me 30 mill and u get to live, he didnt fullfil to what he said he would do. I even gave him a chance to send me 11 more mill which would make 20 mill total, he agreed and i said i would let him go, but he sends me 3 mill, that wasnt the deal. I blew him up, he had partial hulls, lasers, so i think he was just keeping me there to be a ****, i dont know.
As far as keeping my word, I am a person that keeps my word, but he didnt live up to his side of the deal, so therefore he dies, the 10 mill payed for my 20 minutes of time.
As far as getting your 10 mill, hah, come get it.
I am a man of my word, ask many players that I have ransomed, I said 30 mill to live, did u pay me 30 mill, no, so therefore you die. You broke the deal, you didnt live up to ur word.
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Bellicose
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Posted - 2004.03.02 22:39:00 -
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theres allways 2 sides to every story.... or more.....
Who needs a shovel when you have a nice big cannon?
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Ranya
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Posted - 2004.03.02 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 02/03/2004 22:37:20
Edited by: Tank CEO on 02/03/2004 22:35:19
That pirate would be me, but of coarse, this person seemed to have left out alot of details, first of all, the ransom was 30 million. Severed kept me there for 20 minutes saying that hes going to get the money. He then sends me 8 mill and then he says he has 11 mill, so I said send that making it 19 mill. He sends me 3 mill instead. He did not say he couldnt afford 30 mill, he just kept saying he would get it and kept me waiting there for that long. And to add to that, when I had just got him jammed, cruisers started to warp in and attack me, so I then said in local for no one to warp into the belt or he is going to die. So after he sent me 3 mill, i said that was not enough and then I saw a cruiser warp in, so that broke the deal right there so I killed him.
It still doesnt matter anywas, the deal was 30 mill and u get to keep ur ship, he sent me 11 mill, that wasnt my word. I said, send me 30 mill and u get to live, he didnt fullfil to what he said he would do. I even gave him a chance to send me 11 more mill which would make 20 mill total, he agreed and i said i would let him go, but he sends me 3 mill, that wasnt the deal. I blew him up, he had partial hulls, lasers, so i think he was just keeping me there to be a ****, i dont know.
As far as keeping my word, I am a person that keeps my word, but he didnt live up to his side of the deal, so therefore he dies, the 10 mill payed for my 20 minutes of time.
As far as getting your 10 mill, hah, come get it.
I am a man of my word, ask many players that I have ransomed, I said 30 mill to live, did u pay me 30 mill, no, so therefore you die. You broke the deal, you didnt live up to ur word.
Here I believed some new scumbag would be revealed to eve... then it turns out to be the biggest one we already have.
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Posted - 2004.03.02 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 02/03/2004 22:37:20
Edited by: Tank CEO on 02/03/2004 22:35:19
That pirate would be me, but of coarse, this person seemed to have left out alot of details, first of all, the ransom was 30 million. Severed kept me there for 20 minutes saying that hes going to get the money. He then sends me 8 mill and then he says he has 11 mill, so I said send that making it 19 mill. He sends me 3 mill instead. He did not say he couldnt afford 30 mill, he just kept saying he would get it and kept me waiting there for that long. And to add to that, when I had just got him jammed, cruisers started to warp in and attack me, so I then said in local for no one to warp into the belt or he is going to die. So after he sent me 3 mill, i said that was not enough and then I saw a cruiser warp in, so that broke the deal right there so I killed him.
It still doesnt matter anywas, the deal was 30 mill and u get to keep ur ship, he sent me 11 mill, that wasnt my word. I said, send me 30 mill and u get to live, he didnt fullfil to what he said he would do. I even gave him a chance to send me 11 more mill which would make 20 mill total, he agreed and i said i would let him go, but he sends me 3 mill, that wasnt the deal. I blew him up, he had partial hulls, lasers, so i think he was just keeping me there to be a ****, i dont know.
As far as keeping my word, I am a person that keeps my word, but he didnt live up to his side of the deal, so therefore he dies, the 10 mill payed for my 20 minutes of time.
As far as getting your 10 mill, hah, come get it.
I am a man of my word, ask many players that I have ransomed, I said 30 mill to live, did u pay me 30 mill, no, so therefore you die. You broke the deal, you didnt live up to ur word.
well, there you go.
Had someone called in friends on me, I would have killed them too.
Thanks for clearing this up, tank.
And just think, I actually believed the original post. Maybe I'm too trusting?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.02 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 02/03/2004 23:23:59
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Here I believed some new scumbag would be revealed to eve... then it turns out to be the biggest one we already have.
Get yourself an intelligence implant.
I have 1, and I have 11.3 mill skill points and I have 19 intell and 23 memory, so, i think u need to get urself one =)
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MarkyP
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Posted - 2004.03.02 23:05:00 -
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Quote:
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Here I believed some new scumbag would be revealed to eve... then it turns out to be the biggest one we already have.
I have 1, and I have 11.3 mill skill points and I have 19 intell and 23 memory, so, i think u need to get urself one =)
Woulda been SUCH a good comeback, if only you had quoted the right text.
You were saying about intelligence implants?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:44:00 -
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This post is actually funny, i just read it all. lol.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:48:00 -
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i agree with tank then, thats why i was a little unsure in my post if the guy was telling the truth.
Always 2 sides to every story.
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.03 02:06:00 -
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oh dear, severed. cancel your account now, because i'm sure that all those threats that you made while letting us believe that you were indeed the truthteller will be visited upon you ten-fold.
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
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Posted - 2004.03.03 02:56:00 -
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tank does not nor the original poster name who the cruisers were attacking him/ warping into the belt " and he dies " time. we they corp members ? someone who saw tank in local and wanted a free hit ?
aside from that for some ppl , 30 mil is kinda hard to get a hold of on a moments notice.
Team work is essential... It gives the other team something ELSE to shoot at!
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.03 03:50:00 -
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I am a man of my word, ask many players that I have ransomed, I said 30 mill to live, did u pay me 30 mill, no, so therefore you die. You broke the deal, you didnt live up to ur word.
lets go to the chatlog:
[ 2004.03.02 03:40:48 ] severed > can get the rest in a sec
[ 2004.03.02 03:41:00 ] Tank CEO > ok well send the 8 now and that will buy u time
[ 2004.03.02 03:41:09 ] Tank CEO > u have 30 secodns to send the 8 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:42:18 ] severed > you got it now?
[ 2004.03.02 03:42:25 ] Tank CEO > i got the 8 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:42:29 ] Tank CEO > im keeping ur sheilds down
[ 2004.03.02 03:42:37 ] Tank CEO > u still need to send me 22 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:42:39 ] severed > ty, rest is on the way
[ 2004.03.02 03:42:47 ] Tank CEO > how much longer
[ 2004.03.02 03:42:57 ] Tank CEO > u send me that 22 mill u are free to go
[ 2004.03.02 03:44:22 ] severed > whoa, I said I could get 12
[ 2004.03.02 03:44:30 ] Tank CEO > im keeping ur sheilds down
[ 2004.03.02 03:44:39 ] severed > rgr
[ 2004.03.02 03:44:45 ] Tank CEO > how much longer
[ 2004.03.02 03:44:51 ] Tank CEO > im growing impatient again
[ 2004.03.02 03:45:20 ] severed > just a sec, I can only get 12
[ 2004.03.02 03:45:50 ] Tank CEO > k send that
[ 2004.03.02 03:46:25 ] severed > and I live?
[ 2004.03.02 03:46:45 ] Tank CEO > yes
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:26 ] severed > k, I just need to find 400k
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:37 ] severed > from another
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:45 ] Tank CEO > just send me 11 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:53 ] severed > thank you
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:24 ] severed > sent
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:35 ] Tank CEO > u send me 3 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:38 ] Tank CEO > u said 11 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:50 ] severed > 11 total
[ 2004.03.02 03:49:02 ] severed > is what you said
[ 2004.03.02 03:49:04 ] Tank CEO > sorry m8 the ransom is at least 20 - 30
[ 2004.03.02 03:49:06 ] Tank CEO > no
[ 2004.03.02 03:49:11 ] Tank CEO > u said u were going to send me 11 mill
I said I was going to send 11 mill, and I did. I did not break my word. You did
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.03 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: severed on 03/03/2004 04:16:05
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tank does not nor the original poster name who the cruisers were attacking him/ warping into the belt " and he dies " time. we they corp members ? someone who saw tank in local and wanted a free hit ?
anyone who was warping into belt were not my corp, they were the kids who were playing around in system. They posed no threat, Tank knew this and I knew it too. BTW, the belt was 150km in our rear window at this time. For all I know the guy who warped to belt was tank's alt, as an excuse for him to kill me and keep my money
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.03 04:26:00 -
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Edited by: Marichek on 03/03/2004 04:27:27
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[ 2004.03.02 03:45:20 ] severed > just a sec, I can only get 12
[ 2004.03.02 03:45:50 ] Tank CEO > k send that
[ 2004.03.02 03:46:25 ] severed > and I live?
[ 2004.03.02 03:46:45 ] Tank CEO > yes
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:26 ] severed > k, I just need to find 400k
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:37 ] severed > from another
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:45 ] Tank CEO > just send me 11 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:53 ] severed > thank you
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:24 ] severed > sent
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:35 ] Tank CEO > u send me 3 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:38 ] Tank CEO > u said 11 mill
Either you're just a total moron with no communication skills or are human and made a mistake while under pressure. Either way you should not be dragging Tank's name through the mud for your incompetence.
Did you really think that the infamous TankCEO would let you go with your apocalypse for 12 million isk???
You're digging your own hole even deeper here!
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DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.03 04:30:00 -
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It was a Armageddon Marichek
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Loctar
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Posted - 2004.03.03 04:34:00 -
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Edited by: Marichek on 03/03/2004 04:27:27
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[ 2004.03.02 03:45:20 ] severed > just a sec, I can only get 12
[ 2004.03.02 03:45:50 ] Tank CEO > k send that
[ 2004.03.02 03:46:25 ] severed > and I live?
[ 2004.03.02 03:46:45 ] Tank CEO > yes
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:26 ] severed > k, I just need to find 400k
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:37 ] severed > from another
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:45 ] Tank CEO > just send me 11 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:47:53 ] severed > thank you
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:24 ] severed > sent
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:35 ] Tank CEO > u send me 3 mill
[ 2004.03.02 03:48:38 ] Tank CEO > u said 11 mill
Either you're just a total moron with no communication skills or are human and made a mistake while under pressure. Either way you should not be dragging Tank's name through the mud for your incompetence.
Did you really think that the infamous TankCEO would let you go with your apocalypse for 12 million isk???
You're digging your own hole even deeper here!
i wonder who here cant really read O.o apoc ? it was a A-R-M-A-G-E-D-D-O-N. and ppl not use to presure aint as good at communicating as thay are under normal ermm surcomstanse(or how ever its spellt ^_^)
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.03 04:39:00 -
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It was a Armageddon Marichek
DAMNIT! My bad. I'll edit mine if you edit yours! hehe
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Koda
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Posted - 2004.03.03 05:09:00 -
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Sorry, Tank's story is bull. I held at the gate OUTSIDE the system. It was only when I had confirmation Tank killed him that I jumped in and engaged.
There was another player in a Thorax from a different corp. who ignored repeated warnings in local to stay away who apparently jumped in and touched this situation off.
Noone engaged until Severed had already been podded.
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.03 05:31:00 -
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Tank CEO > just send me 11 mill
Its really simple math here, 8+3=11
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Posted - 2004.03.03 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Lord DarkRaven on 03/03/2004 05:57:33
I can't stop laughing funniest thing i've heard on this forum
All Barcodes Have the Number 666 on them.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.03 06:11:00 -
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Im not going to argue, I spoke my peace and I dont give a **** what you beleive.
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3y3s
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Posted - 2004.03.03 09:08:00 -
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Damn, this post stinks, it was someone in local that did a hit and run, in a cruiser like the were going to make a difference, you are a target accept it, it wasn't severed's fault.
And yeah! like everyone carrys 30mill. Or have friends who will give it them, just cos they're in a BS...hmmm
PS, lets lose the big time shall we, more like log off tactic, log on tactic, then has cheek to say "If u use the log on tactic I will report u for exploiting" damn, TANK I respected u mate till u call other ppl lame in locals, them come out with ur own lame comments logging on and off till its safe for ur "Ultimate Badass Raven" to leave the system, damn hope my missiles tickled u. Anyone using those tactics just plain spoils this game.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:07:00 -
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severed you lamer, you should know better not to play around when you care about your ****. You deserved it, let it be a lesson for next time.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:08:00 -
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The way I see it, it's a simple case of misunderstanding. Tank CEO was referring to 11 million more (8+11=19), while severed was referring to 11 million total (8+3=11).
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:13:00 -
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This is a simple lesson that people should not use lazy typing. Put in the details and misunderstandings will not be made.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:27:00 -
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Its really simple math here, 8+3=11
Dude he wanted the 8 mill + 11mill u moron are u completly stupit ??? and if u dont know what 8 + 11 = 19 
Couse i think there are many pirates in eve that would just kill u for the sake of being so stupid 
Ps. tank i would had just smoked his ass in the first 5min
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:48:00 -
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Sorry, Tank's story is bull. I held at the gate OUTSIDE the system. It was only when I had confirmation Tank killed him that I jumped in and engaged.
There was another player in a Thorax from a different corp. who ignored repeated warnings in local to stay away who apparently jumped in and touched this situation off.
Noone engaged until Severed had already been podded.
IÆm sorry but I do not see how Tanks story is bull. IÆve done the ransom job many, many times and whenever the victim stalls by talking about barrowing money from others it usually ends up with friends warping in or entering the system.
Tank was more then generous by giving Severed more then 9 minutes (9 long minutes!) to comply. After about 10 minutes Tank was very much aware of the high probability of a surprise attack. ItÆs no wonder that you died when the cruiser warped in. And donÆt say that 1 cruiser could not have made a difference as we all know a cruiser equipped right could have help that Armageddon escape.
The mere fact that you expect Tank to sit there and wait even more then 10 minutes (this time with spectators) shows what little you know about pirating.
I believe Viceroy made a nice post about how to avoid losing your ship while being ransomed. It was a simple step-by-step procedure that Severed obviously ignored.
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Amulek
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:53:00 -
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nice ship ;]
cant waste to gank ur arma m1ss hellwarior, u took down 1/4th of my friend (carbondioxide)'s shields, with tachyons.
u damn evil
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Amulek
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:55:00 -
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Im sorry to heare about your losses. Well not so sorry about your losses but really sorry for this massmurderer that pretends to be a pirate. This kind of captains are expelled from all pirate unions i can name.
I aks you not to spread the word about this beeing a pirate. He/she gives us all wich are propper pirates a bad name. I will my self be more then happy to return his favore for you.
A propper pirate like my self and my co workers would never, i say again never ever kill a pilote that have payed our fair commisions. Not only that, but a captains paying is free to travle our systems and gates for the rest of that day.
Contact me ingame captain and i shall see to that this bug is squised as should be.
actually pirates normally ask mroe then 11 mil for a BS, he deserved to DIE
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Amulek
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:57:00 -
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I very much doubt it was one of my guys, but if it was, evemail me, please.
SPVD don't stand by this sort of behaviour. Not at all.
Of all drunk, you must know times 10 that 11 mil for a armageddon is not enough =/
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DrStrangelove
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Posted - 2004.03.03 11:05:00 -
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Heh, Amulek has posted 3 times and has yet to reach the part were Tank voices his side of the story
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Marmota Montax
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Posted - 2004.03.03 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Marmota Montax on 03/03/2004 11:18:01
Seems to me that GanK wasnt being very clear in his ransom. Easy to make a misunderstanding in that situation. 6 of one thing and half dozen of another in this case i think.
As for you pirates worrying about lingering over a ransom in case of surprise attacks, does it ever occur to you that you can call in reinforcements too, it does to us when we get locked down and consider calling for corp help...and i say this, if you hadnt thought of that then it shows how little YOU know of pirating. (talking to you strangelove)
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kolobos
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Posted - 2004.03.03 11:19:00 -
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im just wondering whats severed is going to do when the 24 hours are up?
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.03 11:26:00 -
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I very much doubt it was one of my guys, but if it was, evemail me, please.
SPVD don't stand by this sort of behaviour. Not at all.
Of all drunk, you must know times 10 that 11 mil for a armageddon is not enough =/
it all depends what mood you're in. I've asked more, I've asked less.
and when it comes to stalling for 10 minutes, then I *do* stand by tanks behaviour.
If you're flying an armageddon, and don't have 30 mil in your wallet, then you should put it back in the hangar, or risk losing it completely.
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.03.03 11:29:00 -
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im just wondering whats severed is going to do when the 24 hours are up?
cry coz Tank wont give back the cash and i dont blame him.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 11:47:00 -
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im just wondering whats severed is going to do when the 24 hours are up?
Stalk him in a reaper me thinks ...
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:15:00 -
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As for you pirates worrying about lingering over a ransom in case of surprise attacks, does it ever occur to you that you can call in reinforcements too, it does to us when we get locked down and consider calling for corp help...and i say this, if you hadnt thought of that then it shows how little YOU know of pirating. (talking to you strangelove)
You are dangerously close to arguing over semantics. But let me clear something up for you. What Tank KNOWS for sure is how much backup he has at that time, he was probably alone and well over 10 systems away from the nearest corpmate. What he DOESNÆT know is what kind of backup his victim has.
This is called ôsituational awarenessö and it is from this that Tank makes his decision to blow up the Armageddon or not.
So letÆs examine the situation a bit since it is in fact you that is ignorant of the pirating ways.
Tank stops someone and demands money.
Victim in a battleship plays off like he is poor and stalls for more then 10 minutes. Now for those who are not Ebay-ers know that ANYONE in a battleship should have 30-mil to spare or they should not be in a battleship. For this fact alone Tank HAS no choice but to assume the victim is calling for backup.
Someone warps in with a cruiser. It has been 10 minutes and the victim is still stalling when help arrives (albeit in a cruiser). Tank does the right thing and wastes the Armageddon.
So now you say I no nothing of pirating because I donÆt take into consideration ôthat the victim might be considering the fact that tank might be calling for backup.ö Excuse me but how would this affect Tanks decision-making. The victim is already dead with a single volley so Tank needs no backup nor does he need to know the emotional state his victim is in.
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Vashy Stampede
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:17:00 -
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Plus, the chat log is incomplete. This story smells from all sides....
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:31:00 -
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Moral of the story here, dont pay pirates. Tank is famous for doing this, he has done it to 4 of my freinds. He gets your ship and your money, and he knows he can just deney it later as he has done here.
Dont be stupid enough to pay someone who is holding you up, fight back or if thats not possible self destruct, you will feel a whole lot better afterwards.
Remember 95% of pirates are greifing losers the more they can pee you off the more likely they will do it. Also you just funded tank to do the same lame things to someone else.
Think about it first, and notice how all those sticking up for his ways are pirates, who use the same tactics. They will shout in here how honourable they are, pirates in eve = terrorists sorry but they have no honour...
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:38:00 -
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just name him, if u kept it clean and didnt smack talk him, i cant see why he would ransom u then kill u, if its as u say, pretty lame, and only makes his corp look bad.
Tell us who it is:).
Oh and, u are as poor as me.
For once i agree wid u solo.
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:28:00 -
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Moral of the story here, dont pay pirates. Tank is famous for doing this, he has done it to 4 of my freinds. He gets your ship and your money, and he knows he can just deney it later as he has done here.
Dont be stupid enough to pay someone who is holding you up, fight back or if thats not possible self destruct, you will feel a whole lot better afterwards.
Remember 95% of pirates are greifing losers the more they can pee you off the more likely they will do it. Also you just funded tank to do the same lame things to someone else.
Think about it first, and notice how all those sticking up for his ways are pirates, who use the same tactics. They will shout in here how honourable they are, pirates in eve = terrorists sorry but they have no honour...
I think you will find m0o to be very honourable infact. I am in it for the kills mostly, so I don't ransom ships, but all pods I have ransomed have been let go safely, and all m0o in the vacinity get informed and the pod gets free passage past all m0o.
I agree with Tanks decision. Had I been in the same situation, I don't think I would have waited as long before blowing the dude up. As for paying back the percentage of the ransom he paid before getting blown up.....screw him. He was lucky his stalling tactics got him as far as it did. He paid the 8 mil to BUY HIM TIME. He bought time, and got time. No refunds because the time he bought didn't help him get the full amount!
I think I read that post Viceroy made. and in short it was simple, pay quick, don't move or try to stall or you will be wasted. Simple really.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Amulek on 03/03/2004 13:51:12
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Heh, Amulek has posted 3 times and has yet to reach the part were Tank voices his side of the story
 you know im right! 11 mil for a bs isn nuff! hey and why are you in m0o???? , BTW we met before in the old TLBC days.... =).
(im not amulek, thats nelixs second account im deadflip!!!!!!)
And BTW, i only got 25k isk spare money =), i always mine the exact amount i need to buy what i want.... 
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I have 1, and I have 11.3 mill skill points and I have 19 intell and 23 memory, so, i think u need to get urself one =)
(whispering to tankceo)
tank outta all people you should knowby now you can get banned for telling on the forums u exploit... ,
mosta us know by now that 11.3 mil isn possible a legal way
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:47:00 -
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Dude he wanted the 8 mill + 11mill u moron are u completly stupit ??? and if u dont know what 8 + 11 = 19
Couse i think there are many pirates in eve that would just kill u for the sake of being so stupid
These maths are right, your manners not at all.
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Ps. tank i would had just smoked his ass in the first 5min
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:35:00 -
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(whispering to tankceo)
tank outta all people you should knowby now you can get banned for telling on the forums u exploit... ,
mosta us know by now that 11.3 mil isn possible a legal way
Actually at this time its easy enough to have 12.5+ million skill points without abusing the system. It simply depends how active you were when you could gain skill points for actions. We all know TackCEO plays very regularly and for long periods. I'm surprised he doesn't have more points, but then he has focused on combat skills I suppose.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Playmate Bunny on 03/03/2004 16:05:40
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(whispering to tankceo)
tank outta all people you should knowby now you can get banned for telling on the forums u exploit... ,
mosta us know by now that 11.3 mil isn possible a legal way
Oh yes it is, learning skills high and that kind of attribs got a pal of mine at 13 mill right now.. no exploit, just played from release and got implants really quickly after they came on
ohh and btw. I would have killed that guy around 5 minutes before tank did
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Cineas
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Posted - 2004.03.03 17:22:00 -
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I can't believe you are still whining about this!
For one, why were you mining in a .3 system with no security.
2. You should have self destructed, do you honestly believe a pirate would keep his word?
3. I don't have 30 mill in the pocket but I still use my battleship, do you honestly think I'm going to spend a week working to get the ship and not use it? Err no, if I lose it, tough **** I will go work for another one. Simply because I can make more money in it that in a cruiser.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Outcastino on 03/03/2004 17:55:21
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Now for those who are not Ebay-ers know that ANYONE in a battleship should have 30-mil to spare or they should not be in a battleship.
Eeeeeer...no. My corp is socialistic, everything to the corp, everything from the corp. On average i have 200k in my wallet, whatever i mine i give to corp hangar, and they supply me, if i hunt i give the money and most of the loot to the corp. And they give me what i need.
Soo....maybe were not the only corp like that out there, and even if we are, that fact is untrue. What if the victim just purchased something? ehm...far from all in bs have 30 mill in their wallet
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Posted - 2004.03.03 18:04:00 -
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The way I see it, it's a simple case of misunderstanding. Tank CEO was referring to 11 million more (8+11=19), while severed was referring to 11 million total (8+3=11).
agreed, The difference is also in the point of view, I remembered sending the 8 mill, because thats alot of money to me. Tank did not think much of the 8 mill, was not thinking of that, was still looking for the impossible 30. I went back and read the whole log, as I am posting it here now. The log does not reflect well on either of our communication skills. But here it is anyway
Linkage
also, even if I could have reached 11 mill MORE, thats only 19 mill, he says ransom on Bships is 20-30? It still would have been the same story, "you didn't pay enough, I kill you anyway and keep the cash"
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.03 18:18:00 -
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Victim in a battleship plays off like he is poor and stalls for more then 10 minutes. Now for those who are not Ebay-ers know that ANYONE in a battleship should have 30-mil to spare or they should not be in a battleship.
I already proved that I did not have that amount of money, look at the balances on my wallet at times of ransom payment.
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Someone warps in with a cruiser. It has been 10 minutes and the victim is still stalling when help arrives (albeit in a cruiser). Tank does the right thing and wastes the Armageddon.
I also already stated that the belt and this person in the cruiser were 150km away, what could they do from there?
Oh, btw, I later heard that my corpmate in a Caracal cruiser caught up with him after the podding, and the mighty tank had to run off and log. What tactic is that??
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Posted - 2004.03.03 19:46:00 -
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The MOO I've met and read about seem like nice people. But TankCEO has never been considered honorable in this game since day one. By letting someone like him into MOO, along with a dozen other noobs, you tarnish MOO's name.
But keeping the money after blowing someone up, doesn't matter what the circumstances, is not cool and will probably get you less ransom in the future.
I know I'd never pay someone like that if I get ransomed, because who know, a noob might warp in and he'll think it's my corp mate and I will loose my ship and my cash, I rather loose only the ship.
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.03.03 20:17:00 -
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....Yeah Tank was a d.ick....big surprise given the rep. Just the other day in a fight a corp member and I took out some ships, one being a Raven...we gave the guy back his mods...no big deal...just a game, no reason to be a p.rick about it....but then again some peeps are defective...Lol!
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.03 20:41:00 -
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Oh, btw, I later heard that my corpmate in a Caracal cruiser caught up with him after the podding, and the mighty tank had to run off and log. What tactic is that??
O yes, caracals own ravens and im soooo scared of caracals, omg they pwn me. bahahahah
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.03 21:44:00 -
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ah, anyway. moral of the story is: if you don't pay the ransom than you lose your ship. if you don't like it, go play a different game.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.03 21:55:00 -
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Tank I aplaud your patience. When I ransom people they get one chance only.
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:25:00 -
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I guess this thread shows who is endorsed in this game. When pirates are the most trustworthy according to the public. Even though I've never met Tank CEO (other than his alt Tank CE0), I've known who he is from the day I've started this game.
Why haven't any of the bountyhunters got a name on themself like Tank?
Btw, how many frozen corpses of Tank are present to this date?
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Clain Matta
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:42:00 -
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Eve mail me all you peoples where abouts in game. So I can avoid you...some of you people do seem not so"friendly" I have dealt with the ransom thing too...but not that much. I had 1 million ransom in a celestis in the good ole days. And fyi, i can't keep a cent in my wallet as I am helping to fund a corp and I fly a dom. In light of this...whats the average ransom of a dom so I can keep that much in my wallet
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LCPL Franklin
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:44:00 -
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Honor amongst theives my a$$. There is no honor in a theif, just greed and laziness. Honest players work hard for what they have. Pirates are just lazy petty thieves who don't know what it means to earn your way. I've only been ransomed once and i was in a scorpion, surronded and pinned by 4 pirates i was told to pay a mere 10 mil for my passage. I told him to **** off and promptly lost my ship. Had he asked for 1 isk my response would have been the same. Yes it sucks losing a hard earned ship. But at least you still maintain your dignity. No matter what my situation is i would never pay to some lazy petty thief. Pirates are spineless, lazy, dishonorable and petty. Pirates should not be considered PvP'ers because they only fight when the odds are cataclysmically in their favor. To often I have seen pirates run if the are unsure of victory, even in evenly matched situations. The only time I agree with forcing a ransom or attacking weaker players is when they are in violation of regional borders. EX: If a corp or alliance lays claim to an area then violaters of their border policies should be dealt with accordingly. Honor is not letting someone go after they pay your ransom, or keeping your word that you won't shoot them. Its initiating a battle with even odds; so your victory is pure and it was skill that won the battle not not strength. I have many battleships but i prefer to fly my caracel, I have attacked players in battleships who needlessly attack passerbys for mere profit and I usually lose. Out of possibly 50 battles I've won 1 because the player only had cruiser weapons on his ship and no missiles. With more scorpions, ravens, dominix' ans megathrons however the ration is somewhat favored toward me. There are certain pirates I do have some respect for. I'm not sure why, I just do. I believe I would be likley to hesitate firing on them. A player who often camps in P3-en3 fights anything that comes his way, no matter what kind of ship or how many. I find that honorable as he is also protecting territory. m0o corp has also earned a place higher then average petty thieves because I do not consider them pirates (even though they are) but rather conquerers and tyrants as their presence is felt throughout a very large portion of EVE. If ten thousand players know of you, then pirating is no longer profit but legacy. Semper Fi to my brothers at arms.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: CoolSprog on 03/03/2004 23:00:31
Edited by: CoolSprog on 03/03/2004 23:00:03
And you would be?
a carebear who wishes he could travel through 0.0 totally safe AFK in his stower full of bistot?
They aint petty m8, there playing a role that makes the game more fun! Even the small time indy gankers are playing a role, just to make things more interesting. As an anti-pirate i lost several cruisers when i was a newbie, mostly to 3 or more bships against me, i never complained becuase they made it more fun 
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:08:00 -
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there is way to many morrons in EVE....
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:38:00 -
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Honor amongst theives my a$$. There is no honor in a theif, just greed and laziness. Honest players work hard for what they have. Pirates are just lazy petty thieves who don't know what it means to earn your way. I've only been ransomed once and i was in a scorpion, surronded and pinned by 4 pirates i was told to pay a mere 10 mil for my passage. I told him to **** off and promptly lost my ship. Had he asked for 1 isk my response would have been the same. Yes it sucks losing a hard earned ship. But at least you still maintain your dignity. No matter what my situation is i would never pay to some lazy petty thief. Pirates are spineless, lazy, dishonorable and petty. Pirates should not be considered PvP'ers because they only fight when the odds are cataclysmically in their favor. To often I have seen pirates run if the are unsure of victory, even in evenly matched situations. The only time I agree with forcing a ransom or attacking weaker players is when they are in violation of regional borders. EX: If a corp or alliance lays claim to an area then violaters of their border policies should be dealt with accordingly. Honor is not letting someone go after they pay your ransom, or keeping your word that you won't shoot them. Its initiating a battle with even odds; so your victory is pure and it was skill that won the battle not not strength. I have many battleships but i prefer to fly my caracel, I have attacked players in battleships who needlessly attack passerbys for mere profit and I usually lose. Out of possibly 50 battles I've won 1 because the player only had cruiser weapons on his ship and no missiles. With more scorpions, ravens, dominix' ans megathrons however the ration is somewhat favored toward me. There are certain pirates I do have some respect for. I'm not sure why, I just do. I believe I would be likley to hesitate firing on them. A player who often camps in P3-en3 fights anything that comes his way, no matter what kind of ship or how many. I find that honorable as he is also protecting territory. m0o corp has also earned a place higher then average petty thieves because I do not consider them pirates (even though they are) but rather conquerers and tyrants as their presence is felt throughout a very large portion of EVE. If ten thousand players know of you, then pirating is no longer profit but legacy. Semper Fi to my brothers at arms.
Ever heard about the button SPACE????
As for pirates not having honnor bla bla bla and so on, Your full off Bull****. There are lotz off pirates out there that have honnor and uphold theyr word, when they say they will let you go they do.
And for never paying a ransom thats your decission, but some people value theyr gaming time inn other ways.
The fact that Tank saw it necaserry to gank that fellow is striclty legitimate, as the player staled and didnt even pay the sum Tank asked for.
I would advise to just pay the ransom as your probably going to end up saving a bit off cash on it. Its better to pay 15mill than loosing a ship that costs 60mill+new insurance+modules+implants.
Tata...........
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Posted - 2004.03.04 00:07:00 -
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As for pirates not having honnor bla bla bla and so on, Your full off Bull****. There are lotz off pirates out there that have honnor and uphold theyr word, when they say they will let you go they do.
As I said before honor is not saying you won't shoot someone. Just casue a pirate says he won't shoot you and doesn't, doesn't mean he's honorable it means hes been appeased. Honor is fair fight, where your skill brings you out on top. One of the reasons there are so many pirates in EVE is because anybod can pick on a smaller ship then them.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.03.04 00:12:00 -
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The way I see it, it's a simple case of misunderstanding. Tank CEO was referring to 11 million more (8+11=19), while severed was referring to 11 million total (8+3=11).
agreed, The difference is also in the point of view, I remembered sending the 8 mill, because thats alot of money to me. Tank did not think much of the 8 mill, was not thinking of that, was still looking for the impossible 30. I went back and read the whole log, as I am posting it here now. The log does not reflect well on either of our communication skills. But here it is anyway
Linkage
also, even if I could have reached 11 mill MORE, thats only 19 mill, he says ransom on Bships is 20-30? It still would have been the same story, "you didn't pay enough, I kill you anyway and keep the cash"
I've read the complete log. You misunderstood each other, live with it. I can post a longer explanation if you want.
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Posted - 2004.03.04 00:47:00 -
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As for pirates not having honnor bla bla bla and so on, Your full off Bull****. There are lotz off pirates out there that have honnor and uphold theyr word, when they say they will let you go they do.
As I said before honor is not saying you won't shoot someone. Just casue a pirate says he won't shoot you and doesn't, doesn't mean he's honorable it means hes been appeased. Honor is fair fight, where your skill brings you out on top. One of the reasons there are so many pirates in EVE is because anybod can pick on a smaller ship then them.
Read on the back off the box.........................
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Posted - 2004.03.04 01:47:00 -
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As for pirates not having honnor bla bla bla and so on, Your full off Bull****. There are lotz off pirates out there that have honnor and uphold theyr word, when they say they will let you go they do.
As I said before honor is not saying you won't shoot someone. Just casue a pirate says he won't shoot you and doesn't, doesn't mean he's honorable it means hes been appeased. Honor is fair fight, where your skill brings you out on top. One of the reasons there are so many pirates in EVE is because anybod can pick on a smaller ship then them.
Read on the back off the box.........................
well, you ever thought about he poor riods in space? man thy cant defend themself at all and thy have been flying aroung ins space for millions of years in peace! and there comes some dudes with mining lasers and cut them in pieces alive? man, thas cruel and brutal! as long as Nafri is in space i cant let you kill the poor stones!
the Stone of Love told me to do so!
Hail Stone of Love
Wanna fly with me?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.04 02:16:00 -
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Ever here the saying "life isnt fair" Pirates and NPCs (read the description of a npc pirate) look for ships to destroy, to ransom for money. Well hey, we gota make money too. We want it to be unfair for you. We dont care if its unfair to you, we are here to make money and upgrade our ship and have a replacement and make money like you do mining hence a pirate.
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Faegas
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Posted - 2004.03.04 03:27:00 -
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Seems simple enough just all become pirates 
They keep telling us how week regular players are, so become like them.
True eventually it desolve eve or make ccp take drastic measures, but hey its going that way anyway
The longer I play this game, the more I realise pirates are gonna out number us very soon, so honestly whats the point in being anything else?
the pirates certainly cant be arsed to play that way, why should you?
True a lack of victims might be a prob but hey u cant have everything and more importantly you wont be so much of a victim yourself :)
if u cant beat em, join em
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Posted - 2004.03.04 04:14:00 -
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Boring
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GATORAN
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Posted - 2004.03.04 05:16:00 -
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Hiya Gary! nice to see ya :)
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.03.04 07:01:00 -
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well, you ever thought about he poor riods in space? man thy cant defend themself at all and thy have been flying aroung ins space for millions of years in peace! and there comes some dudes with mining lasers and cut them in pieces alive? man, thas cruel and brutal! as long as Nafri is in space i cant let you kill the poor stones!
the Stone of Love told me to do so!
Hail Stone of Love
hahhaha i never thought of that before.
You miners out there...your all murderers!!!!
So all the Pk'er and pirates that are taking out all the miners are really saving all the roids.
You see people its nothing to do with cash....they just love stones.
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LCPL Franklin
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Posted - 2004.03.04 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: LCPL Franklin on 04/03/2004 09:50:11
fair? who gives a $hit about fair! if anything a pirate more subconsciously complains about fairness, "its unfair that an honest career is so much more difficult" the honorable ones are the ones who don't go for the quick cash, but they earn it. Anyone can pirate, esspecially in groups, the players that go for the challenge are the ones that lead honest lives within EVE. fair pffft.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.04 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Fanible on 04/03/2004 10:19:31
See I don't know really how to side with either of the two.
On one hand if I were a pirate I would of realised that the dude ment 9+3=11 and then proceeded to explain that what I really ment was 20mil will be satisfactory.
On the other hand taking so much time is really risky, as one could log out and back in and simply disappear, as well as call for backup. There is no way to know wether or not a cruiser warping in is not a corp mate(especially after so uch time), and you would not take the time to check as even a cruiser could do some serious damage and allow the caputured to escape. Maybe all this could of worked out if that moron hadn't warped in, and in my opinion is the only idiot in this situation. For I wouldn't of just assumed this was not a corp mate, and also assumed that he could not do major damage. I would of wasted my prisoner quickly and get out of there or THEN proceed in finding out if this warpee could actually fight me off.
Further more if I have a battleship I never mine in low level sectors without some serious defense, or usually with a team of miners. Mining by yourself in such an expensive ship with no proper defense or gear, as well as no one around to help you is your own fault.
But then again im coming back to the final destruction of severed's ship, for even though you had paid part of it, the final real situation was a spur of the moment kinda thing due to another idiot interfering. In that sense I do feel like Tank should return the money as the as you really didn't get a chance to figure out that he ment 11 more mil and died before you got a chance to finish paying.
See now that makes sense to me, but I also come back to this again. A pirate's point of view, which you were taking pretty long, and you shouldn't of had that thing out there with no proper protection to begin with.
But then once again I come back to the fact that you did pay him something and I don't feel like because some other idiot came along that you had to suffer basicly two folds.... paying and dying.
My conclusion if I were your parents would be Tank gives back atleast 6 mil. He did waste his time so I don't think he should go away empty handed. On the other hand it sucks even more for severed as everything that unfolded was crap for him.
I can probably say however that none of this is gonna happen anyhow, cause this would basicly be proving Tank wrong on everything and he has too much pride and an ego to let that happen.
I feel that Tank had enough respect that he waited as long as he did, but I also feel that sever had even more so because he didn't try logout/login, and he also didn't call for backup, as the judgement lead.
If Tank was a really honorable person (in RL) he would do this. But yes, life isn't fair, and crap happens. If this space game on the other hand was RL, none of us would be having this conversation right now. Instead, it would go as normal... people who don't like pirates would hunt pirates or people wanting bounties would hunt pirates. Tank would be a prime target in this. And as Tank acted on instinct to a suprise attack there would really be no need to repay anything in real life. You'd go on about your business.
Instead, sever you should just make it a plan to kill Tank, as so many others probably have already.
...But then again, this isn't real life. Lol, this whole thing is kind of none winning for either side.
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.03.04 10:50:00 -
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Ouch. after reading all that my head hurts.
your confused.....i think i am now too.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.04 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Fanible on 04/03/2004 11:42:56
Actually im not confused. That's just how nuts it is.
Sorry for confusing you though.
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.03.04 11:14:00 -
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you...bu..duhh....huh?
*brains drooling out of ears*
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.03.04 11:41:00 -
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Tank, wire me the cash .. then I am the bad guy and you are all innocent :)
/emote longs for the SP days back.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.04 12:39:00 -
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Honor in this game has nothing to do with my real life anything. Anything in this game has nothing to do with real life cept for of coarse my personality with people on Teamspeak and corp mates. AS for severed, if he woulda logged out, well, he woulda died instantly cause I was ready for that cause I expect it alot because alot of people do it and he wouldnt of survived for more then 10 seconds.
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DrStrangelove
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Posted - 2004.03.04 13:23:00 -
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I also already stated that the belt and this person in the cruiser were 150km away, what could they do from there?
A BB equipped correctly could save you from that range. Not to mention anyone warping in could be considered a scout for another BS waiting in another system. It takes no time to jump-in and warp exactly to where the scout says to ruin Tanks ransom.
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you know im right! 11 mil for a bs isn nuff! hey and why are you in m0o???? , BTW we met before in the old TLBC days.... =).
(im not amulek, thats nelixs second account im deadflip!!!!!!)
And BTW, i only got 25k isk spare money =), i always mine the exact amount i need to buy what i want....
You were in TLBC? Hmm donÆt remember, but then itÆs been a long while. I have been in m0o since we decided to disband the Club.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.04 13:27:00 -
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I'm not a pirate. Never have been but I see no problem here at all.
Tank is a pirate, they can do whatever the **** they want because they are answerable to no-one.
He told you his price. He dropped it down to a reasonable amount. You didn't pay, you died.
Personally, if I was a miner and saw a pirate drop into the system, I wouldn't sit around waiting for him to come and gank me in my belt.
dbp
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.03.04 13:44:00 -
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pssschhtt preachy, dont tell them to run
Ok, Miners of the World, your safe in you belts, try to stay there and dont move when pirates come in! thy will think your at safespot and search for you at the planets!
STAY IN YOUR BELTS, ITS MUCH SAFER!
"The Stone Of Love" has spoken
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Kuga
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Posted - 2004.03.04 14:54:00 -
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obviously, we have a case of misunderstanding during communication. If the price was 30mio, and Tank gave some 33% discount, it is still 20mio not 11mio. I guess severed just had bad luck not having liquid funds. Anything else is crap. Including the statement, that you cant fly a bs if you dont have at least 30mio in your wallet. Afaik it just requires BS-skill.
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Posted - 2004.03.04 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kozak on 04/03/2004 15:20:21
Well, if there is anything I learned from this thread it's that if i'm in a battleship, and cought with my guard down, I'll just loose my ship. I only carry replaceble equipment and I rather pick up my insurance then pay someone and have the slightest chance of me being blown up afterwards.
I know you guys say that if I pay I won't die, but what if someone warps into a belt I'm mining and you think it's my corp mate or a bounty hunter and you blow me up while I'm transferring the cash? I still loose my ship and from the looks of it no pirate that responded here would pay the money back.
So if your cought for ransom by any pirate, start thinking about replacing your ship, cause paying a pirate is no guarantee of anything, but insurance is a sure thing.
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Posted - 2004.03.04 15:22:00 -
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Oh, btw, I later heard that my corpmate in a Caracal cruiser caught up with him after the podding, and the mighty tank had to run off and log. What tactic is that??
O yes, caracals own ravens and im soooo scared of caracals, omg they pwn me. bahahahah
dont forget i defeated you in a caracal once
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Posted - 2004.03.04 15:23:00 -
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I still loose my ship and from the looks of it no pirate that responded here would pay the money back.
No, what they are saying is that if you pay the money in full then there won't be a problem.
SPVD have replaced money in the past (*****cat was one who did it for sure) for accidental shootings.
dbp
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severed
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Posted - 2004.03.04 18:10:00 -
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This issue is now dead, I have better things to do. An annoymous player created a alt to pay reparations to me. Don't know who it really is, but the plan is good with me. I dont need to spread the word about dishonorable rats in the game. This guy has more money than time, and has alot of time to drop ads all over the place. Suffice to say, your debt to me has been bought by "PublicServiceAnnouncement" If you want to be a honorable man, send the money to him. And to those who wish to flame, know this: I don't care, I already know I'm a nobody. Click.
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Posted - 2004.03.04 22:41:00 -
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Go ahead, waste your time saying what your going to say, people already think what you say about me anywas, do I care, hell no.
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Kinnison
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Posted - 2004.03.05 09:03:00 -
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Go ahead, waste your time saying what your going to say, people already think what you say about me anywas, do I care, hell no.
Ask yourself this Tank: How many noobs have you made leave EVE? How much new content could have been put in with the money they would have brought into ccp? Oops, sorry, forgot, all new content means to you is something new to blow up.
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Haxar
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Posted - 2004.03.05 10:10:00 -
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Ask yourself this Tank: How many noobs have you made leave EVE? How much new content could have been put in with the money they would have brought into ccp? Oops, sorry, forgot, all new content means to you is something new to blow up.
Not more content, as i bet CCP has a quite tight timeframe for every step.
And n00bs in space lower than 0.5 should know the consequences at all. (Jeh i know 0.5 and up isn't safe at all, but that's not the topic )
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Lilith Danu
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Posted - 2004.03.05 11:10:00 -
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For God's sake will someone lock this thread its becoming an embarrassment to everyone on it
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Haxar
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Posted - 2004.03.05 11:26:00 -
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For God's sake will someone lock this thread its becoming an embarrassment to everyone on it
One solution would be that you stop to bump it to the top
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Cmdr Sp0ck
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:26:00 -
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Sorry for your loss severed, but the mistake was mainly yours and not Tank's. Why? Because you believed him and paid up. If you dont pay the pirates they dont win its that simple. All they get is maybe some loot from your ship. You lose your ship, but they dont get much for it, except maybe some fun.
Tank was in his right to blow you up, as it was a low sec system. He's a pirate and thats the role he chose. So if you trust him to pay the ransom or not, you proceed at your own risk.
But this is just my opinion.
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Posted - 2004.03.05 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Chaz Pounder on 05/03/2004 16:24:34
What a ass .. he destryes for us who keep our word .. I even hade to wire back 20 mill becors a few torps slipped away :).
For me is isk the only thing i cear about .. if they dont pay thay end up in a egg.. if thay pay np leting em go .. well thats how we work tho. Ez as that.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.05 17:56:00 -
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Go ahead, waste your time saying what your going to say, people already think what you say about me anywas, do I care, hell no.
Ask yourself this Tank: How many noobs have you made leave EVE? How much new content could have been put in with the money they would have brought into ccp? Oops, sorry, forgot, all new content means to you is something new to blow up.
Lol, nothing makes you whining carebears happy. I kill battleships, try to be a pirate, you still say their noobs, face it, you just hate pirates, you must hate pvp, your selfish, incosiderate for other peoples fun. Im playing my role here. You need to ask yourself how many people (veteran pirates) you forced to quit because of your endless crying to CCp.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.03.06 05:21:00 -
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Awwww... don't say that Tank... you're one of the few pirates who are worthy of respect.
You got mine, at least... and that, my man, ain't easy.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:04:00 -
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Gotta love a good brown noser like s3vyn =P
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M0RIARTY
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Posted - 2004.03.06 12:27:00 -
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o_O
enough already.............
this thread still going
Noo sig comming SOONÖ
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Posted - 2004.03.06 18:03:00 -
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Gotta love a good brown noser like s3vyn =P
hehehe...
Tank's one of the few who I would consider a bona fide pirate in this game. Seems as if most of those who call themselves "Warriors" are really just forum fighters. Tank releases a video in which he hunts random people down and ransoms them or kills them... Very cool indeed.
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TFC Grimwill
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Posted - 2004.03.06 21:09:00 -
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Never ever ever ever pay a pirate's ransom!
And if it is Tank CEO - dont even bother saying a word - he likely will misunderstand you or just wont get it.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.06 21:40:00 -
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Never ever ever ever pay a pirate's ransom!
And if it is Tank CEO - dont even bother saying a word - he likely will misunderstand you or just wont get it.
Bah, end yourself. Thats the first in all my ransoms that there was a misunderstanding by his part. Fine, you dont wanna pay the ransom thats fine with me, ill just blow u up, it doesnt effect me. I got the pleasure of destroying your ship. Your the one being dumb not paying a easy ransom.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.07 03:58:00 -
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I think it is quiet funny how people say noobs quit when they get podded, I never did, I used to ninja mine jaspet in my noob ship in aurohunen. Those damm spvd guys killed off loads of my frigs...did I care? Hell no, cause I knew it was part of the Game...I moved on to Ennur to get podded by h4x0 (that ****ed me off slightley cause it was the original me and had no isurance on my rupture). Did I ever hold anything againtst these guys for doing it? No (well kinda to h4x0)
What does make noobs leave is the constant monnie coddling they get from empire huggers, One of my alts is in an empire corp and what they say to new players nearly makes me sick, they talk about instantdeath in 0.4 and below, which is not trueat all. They put alot of emphasis on loosing ships, clones and implants when it is not such a big deal, as they are bought to be used and lost.
Most of the playerbase makes me sick, as they try to justify their selfish actions and their tiny cowardly backbones.
As for pirates having honour, well we honour our word, but dont try to rip us off or **** us over as YOU will come out worse. When i first read this thread I wanted to know who the rat was that had ripped Severed off as one bad rat gives us all a bad name. Now I see him for the worthless piece of crap he is, he tried to screw tank over and failed, imho it was no mistake over getting confused about ammounts, it was a really stupid delay tactic so that he could get away, well Im so glad it really turned out bad for you severed.
Players telling other players not to pay ransoms are usually the first to cry stop in local, all big and mouthy on the forums but are total pu$$ys ingame.
Id recommend every1 to pay a ransom, saying that you dont want to pay a ransome, because you would perfer to be out of pocket than the pirate gain anything just goes to show how stupid you really are. Gain for me is never about isk, its about fun, I get the same ammount of enjoyment out of blowing people to bits as roleplaying out a ransome. But, roleplaying out a ransome can be enjoyed by both parties and that is why I perfer it. I dont really mind people getting mad and angry at me, but I perfer it everyone has a good time, either winning or loosing.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.07 04:07:00 -
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Whatever works.
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Cristian Rosseman
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Posted - 2004.03.07 10:00:00 -
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it all depends what mood you're in. I've asked more, I've asked less.
and when it comes to stalling for 10 minutes, then I *do* stand by tanks behaviour.
If you're flying an armageddon, and don't have 30 mil in your wallet, then you should put it back in the hangar, or risk losing it completely.
actually so treu, personally i wouldn't even pay in the first place.. (1-2 warpcore stab when u mine alone in 0.4 or below is all u need.. )
and even if i get my bs shot down i will have a good insurance to back me up for that..
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Omikrono
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Posted - 2004.03.07 17:44:00 -
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Hmm pay an easy ransom? 30 Mil is not an Easy ransom by any means. I have been playin this game for a few months now and 30 mil takes me a while to get. so i dont know what smoke your *****in but pass it this way please.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.07 21:11:00 -
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Hmm pay an easy ransom? 30 Mil is not an Easy ransom by any means. I have been playin this game for a few months now and 30 mil takes me a while to get. so i dont know what smoke your *****in but pass it this way please.
30mil = 2-3hrs mining in a bs
Suppose it depends on what you call a long time.
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Felix Steiner
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Posted - 2004.03.08 00:03:00 -
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Hmm pay an easy ransom? 30 Mil is not an Easy ransom by any means. I have been playin this game for a few months now and 30 mil takes me a while to get. so i dont know what smoke your *****in but pass it this way please.
30mil = 2-3hrs mining in a bs
Suppose it depends on what you call a long time.
depends on what you mine, 30 mil is alot of isk if you mine omber in 0,3! Well, never trust an irishman...
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Akallabeth Avaria
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Posted - 2004.03.08 00:08:00 -
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And to the infamous tank ceo, asking 30 mil from someone in an armegeddon in a 0,3 sys, thats crazy. Seems like you kill for fun, not for profit!
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Lord DarkRaven
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Posted - 2004.03.08 04:39:00 -
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Tank I notice ur not in Moo any more my I ask y. 
All Barcodes Have the Number 666 on them.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.08 07:41:00 -
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Whats crazy about 30 mill, ok, 40% dish out 28 mill. I have no decided to lower it to 25 mill, is that better?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.08 09:46:00 -
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Take Everything u can! Give nothing Back!
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Darth Seadog
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Posted - 2004.03.08 13:27:00 -
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Tank I notice ur not in Moo any more my I ask y.
You ain't answered his question Tank CEO
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.03.08 13:28:00 -
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Well 24 hours is well and truely up.
did anything happen????
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Darth Seadog
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Posted - 2004.03.08 13:29:00 -
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Tank I notice ur not in Moo any more my I ask y.
You ain't answered his question Tank CEO
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Basileus
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Posted - 2004.03.08 17:48:00 -
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.03.09 02:18:00 -
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Because M0o went to go attack curse and im against it, well, attackin FE that is, since im still freinds with FE and didnt and will not shoot people I have played along side with for 8 months, so i left and formed my own corp, btw *****cat, get your ass on man. where ya been.
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.03.09 07:22:00 -
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Because M0o went to go attack curse and im against it, well, attackin FE that is, since im still freinds with FE and didnt and will not shoot people I have played along side with for 8 months, so i left and formed my own corp, btw *****cat, get your ass on man. where ya been.
hes playing lineage2 apperently
me miss him on the swedish channel 
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