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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:45:00 -
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Oh, FFS what does TTI have to do with Moo doing anything? If Moo is bored and wants someone to fight and they decide to attack CAà okà
TTI joined the C4 alliance and have been fighting in Catch every night (having a good time too thanks to the SA boys out here). TTI has never entered CA spaceà. Oh, we passed through U-Q a few timesà but jumping in then jumping out surely can not be considered to be ôoperating in CA spaceö by anyoneÆs standard. The C4Æs stance with the CA is one of mutual defense and friendship. We are allied Alliances, nothing more nothing less. Also, as I have mentioned we have been attacking CAÆs enemies and aiding in the war against SA.
I mean, is the name TTI still so volatile? /me knock, knock ôHelloà. Ragnar left 5 months agoö à TTI is a vastly different corporation now. In fact, that is the whole reason Shar T. did that EVE Guardian articleàI mean really, whatÆs it going to take? I ôtalked the talkö when I took overà and IÆve been ôwalking the walkö for the past 5 months. Judge us for who we are under my leadership. TTI has changedà we are honorable and respectableà the only problem left is the EVE community accepting that fact.
As far as the ôdo not shoot TTIö comment that BobGhengisKhan madeà Not by me you werenÆt Bob. I was asked what my stance with Moo wasà I told them ôthe same as it has been for the past 5 monthsà They are pirates and we are anti-pirateà But, IÆm not stupidà My guys only return fire in self defense against Moo, and then only enough to get away.ö That has not changedà I also made it quite clear that TTI would never have a NAP with Moo. Now then Bob, If a friend of yours asked you not to shoot TTI because weÆre in the C4 and friends of your friends. That is up to youà If you donÆt shoot TTI ships because you donÆt want to upset one of your fiends, it makes no difference to meà I never asked for that, I never would, and quite frankly I was shocked when I heard about it. In fact I told them to knock it off after I heard about you being asked thatà Moo is going to do what Moo wants to doà period.
Soà this whole thing is funny to me and sad. The CA is making sure to keep TTI at an arms distanceà we are not allowed in to operate nor mine in CA spaceà we are not even allowed into CA space for joint C4/CA military operationsà yet now I hear that Moo is using TTI as an excuse to attack CA, because CA accepted TTI as a member corporationà WTF?
The C4 alliance will help defend the CAà if that includes C4 member corporations being allowed into CA space at some point, that is up to the CAà not me.
Go Taggart!
Regardless, you will die like the rest of them.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:46:00 -
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Discorporation, I love your sig. 
Courtesy of Firma Civrie!
(contact Raem Civrie if you need one just like it!)
I'm going to switch to an EVOL sig, though ^^
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Ticket Master
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:12:00 -
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Finally, something more entertaining than the CA/SA war
Who to root for though, bioth ahd had their pot shots at me in the past....
Hmmm, ahhh
Yeah, go Moo. At least you made my podding fun :p
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:14:00 -
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I hereby demand from CA the sum of 20 billion isk and full unlimited access to Curse Space
U wont be friends after that transaction and u already have unlimited access to all other regions.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 03/03/2004 13:20:23
Most interesting post ever, nice one !!
Shame I'm off snowboarding for a week coz this news roolz ...or not ...OMG I've gone cross eyed
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Zap on 03/03/2004 13:23:39
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Since your not even the REAL Lord Zap ... your just a tired little boy. it will be my pleasure to POD you.
It's really amusing and kind of flattering that people throw this old gem at me when they cant think of anything better to say. Flattering in the sense that Lord Zap, this character I created over 8 months ago has so entered eve folk-lore and that I am constantly having to live up to what people expect of him.
The other interesting thing to come out of this thread is the amount of hostility from the Forsaken Empire, there has always been mutual respect between the original CA and m0o corp, but a lot of these newer members show a complete disregard for notions such as respect for their superiors.
I mean, Gunn Diesel may forget in his stupidity that we invaded Fountain not long ago and handed them the keys to the front door so to speak. When m0o left, they struggled in their disorganisation and naivety and were promptly kicked out. This is my over-riding memory of Forsaken Empire, and much contempt may have been discerned in my posts regarding the FE as a result of their ineptitude.
At the end of the day, think what you will of m0o but we have never lost a conflict of this nature. Sure, people occasionally get lucky and kill a ship of ours or maybe even two, but in these large scale engagements that we have had so much practice at, we are second to none. Trivial insults from the FE members will only strengthen our resolve and our desire to destroy the CA.
m0o is the great equiliser in EVE, anyone gets too powerful we are their to smack them down, by divine intervention if you will, or Malthusian intent m0o corp helps keep the balance. TTI, Omega, Forsaken Empire you will be the first of many to fall, but fall you will.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:23:00 -
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The other interesting thing to come out of this thread is the amount of hostility from the Forsaken Empire, there has always been mutual respect between the original CA and m0o corp, but a lot of these newer members show a complete disregard for notions such as respect for their superiors.
That's what you get when you turn on your friends, fool.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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redi
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:37:00 -
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Amen. Preach it brother Zap.
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Smith
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:42:00 -
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Err...I'm abit confused here.
So do I have to fight people like Bob, Teel and Sass now? Sorry to admit this is somewhat going to feel odd as I like these guys.
If this all kicks off I will be fighting against the guys I got on with (some mOo members) alongside people I dont get on with (*****).
I keep telling myself this is just a computer game but still the prospect feels weird. 
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Tamish
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:42:00 -
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Just a question Lord Zap, where will ATUK be fighting in this coming war, by your side or too the defensive of their old friends the CA?
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:47:00 -
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I was in the 'm0o declars war on CA' thread !
go m0o!..errm i hate m0o, go CA! ..errm i hate CA too,go C4! errm i hate them also. Well wth go all! 
That I just had to laf at 
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Angelsfist
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:53:00 -
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This will certainly make for an interesting fight thats for certain.
I've had great chats with members from both sides so it'd be hard to choose. If I had to though, I think it'd be w/ M0O. It remains to be seen how effective they are against such a huge alliance.
One thing is for certain, they will not have a hard time finding targets.
Good luck, M0O.
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:04:00 -
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OMG, mOo and CELES have the same enemies, has hell frozen over?.
hang on, i thought CELES were attacking the CA to GET to the pirates? so technically... doesn't this make your reason for war with us... void?
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:18:00 -
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Hush Yap Yap ......
Just bring it on .........
Mongo speaks !!
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:25:00 -
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Who to root for?
Nrrgg, whilst, I dislike some CA, others I have respect for.
Also, while I like the majority of the British m0o (except OVERCOPES 1, hes just a ****.) and some of the other m0o, the rest are just morons.
So... Goooooooooooo CA 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:29:00 -
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Seriously m0o, I think you should up the fee.
Killing CA ships is very profitable.
You know EV got 147k mega, 115k zyd and 6k morph out of an [UA] industrial some days ago...
Now MASS got 50k mega out of an [FE] battleship.
So you should consider upping that fee.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:29:00 -
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well, one thing is for sure.
If i lose any of my battleships to anything else then
a straightup fight, like lagg, not loading system, CTD,
you can bet your a$$ that i will mass-peition
untill i get reimbursed.
Time to start running that logg.
Losing a 100M battleship to CTD or lagg in a 40Vs40 ship
fight is NOT my idÚa of a good fight.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Macumba
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:31:00 -
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I'll let Francis Ford Coppola do the talking for my take on all this...
"We went into the jungle, there were too many of us; we had too much money, too much equipment and, little by little, we went insane." |
Fanatique D'Absinthe
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:37:00 -
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IMHO, this boils down to simplicity. Lord Zap and the rest of the mOo crowd got bored. They "allied" themselves (so to speak) with the Curse Alliance and began to attack the enemies of said Alliance. CFS was squashed like the bug that it always was, due to CFSN's utter lack of PvP experience as well as the stupidity of CFS' leadership (read that as President and Senate)in failing to organize ANYTHING. The Fountain Alliace came under the mOo boresites and much like CFS, became cannon fodder. Granted a portion of the Fountain Alliance were "decent" PvP pilots, but the "decent" to blatantly poor PvP pilots ratio was ludicrous at best.
With nothing better to do, Lord Zap in boredom looked to the CA and said to himself and members of the mOo Corporation, "Interested in a challenge?"
Anything else said concerning "fat and careless", "former enemies of mOo corp", "long since regarded Curse as its home", "restrict access to this region....unacceptable", "We will not tolerate....former 'friends'" etc. is flowery rhetoric to excuse Lord Zap's choice to attack the Curse Alliance out of sheer boredom.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:40:00 -
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OMG, mOo and CELES have the same enemies, has hell frozen over?.
hang on, i thought CELES were attacking the CA to GET to the pirates? so technically... doesn't this make your reason for war with us... void?
How? Do you stop being a pirate if you are attacked by a pirate (hypthetical question not directed at you).
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scouting
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:40:00 -
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I'll let Francis Ford Coppola do the talking for my take on all this...
"We went into the jungle, there were too many of us; we had too much money, too much equipment and, little by little, we went insane."
that and the fact half the crew were taking lsd 
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:42:00 -
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OMG, mOo and CELES have the same enemies, has hell frozen over?.
hang on, i thought CELES were attacking the CA to GET to the pirates? so technically... doesn't this make your reason for war with us... void?
the reason for the war is more that CA corps constantly attacked CELES members in neutral 0.0
space and spewed so much local smack that our ears bled. Its a shame, most CA corps are full of polite mature folks, just some guys bring them down. that and they accepted F-E into their care.
anyways back to subject, hope all u guys have fun.
PPl that want eternal peace in EVE have suffered a hard hit over the head .
EVE is a dangerous place lately.
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Zen Later
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:58:00 -
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orignally posted by Lord Zap
I mean, Gunn Diesel may forget in his stupidity that we invaded Fountain not long ago and handed them the keys to the front door so to speak. When m0o left, they struggled in their disorganisation and naivety and were promptly kicked out. This is my over-riding memory of Forsaken Empire, and much contempt may have been discerned in my posts regarding the FE as a result of their ineptitude.
To finally put in the other side of the story on this FA myth and some reality on the story...
mOo goes off and attacks FA. Do a lot of damage during their solo campaign, much to the delight of many including ranks within the then Forsaken Empire Alliance (now dead).
mOo then approaches FE alliance members about the FE coming down and aiding them in their campaign in Fountain. The word spreads out to the FE member corps and then members of the then Forsaken Empire alliance and forces begin to trickle down to Fountain.
mOo sticks around for a bit and then, being mOo, quickly becomes bored with the situation and packs up and leaves to go off on another rable rousing leaving the Forsaken Empire Alliance corps to "finish the job".
In reality, mOo and the Forsaken Empire Alliance's battles had only scratched the surface of FA ship counts. Quickly the situation spiralled down to a stalemate...FA controlling Fountain during the AM North American hours and Forsaken Empire corps controlling Fountain during the PM North American hours.
Of course Lord Zap would have absolutely no knowledge of this situation because he wasn't even in Fountain region...but many in the Forsaken Empire will agree that Lord Zap's in-game ego easily can take up 3 or 4 regions at a time.
Leaders of the Forsaken Empire Alliance corps were approached by him...the now Emporer of the Forsaken Alliance corp. The Emporer made the leaders of the primary Forsaken Empire Alliance corps realize that the Eve-universe was evolving and about to change drastically. We individual corps had a decision to make...evolve and grow with the game or try to continue to live in a dead past and be left behind.
We chose the leadership of the Emporer...the guidance of the 5 Pillars of the Emporer and to change and evolve with the game.
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orignally posted by Lord Zap
...the amount of hostility from the Forsaken Empire, there has always been mutual respect between the original CA and m0o corp...
Many members of the F-E have great respect for mOo members. What you see is some animosity towards the ego-manic Lord Zap. Many of our membership will take no pleasure in killing...if it comes down to it...several mOo members. Lord Zap, on the other hand, may be a complete different matter.
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Negotiator Navy
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Posted - 2004.03.03 15:37:00 -
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So do I have to fight people like Bob, Teel and Sass now? Sorry to admit this is somewhat going to feel odd as I like these guys.
someone likes Teel 
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2003Cobra
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Posted - 2004.03.03 15:51:00 -
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My favorite thing about this post is that m0o and CA aren't really talking smack to eachother, it's the people who come here and think they are somebody or think they know something about CA or m0o and run their mouths.
Nobody likes a Monday morning quarterback...
"When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard."
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.03.03 15:58:00 -
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Evol and FE working together on PA
m0o and SA working together on CA
Did the world go mad and I didn't notice?
Aren't FE a satrapy of CA? If so then they will be obliged to help out in the defence. Now that would be interesting to watch FE and m0o killing each other
Generally will be fun to observe (if this is true).
Personally, I like to hear from Stavros or Omni. Zap holds no currency with us, and I don't think so with CA either.
Zap is 99% mouth, and 1% muscle. Even on teamspeak, it was hard not to ***** up when his whiny girlish voice spoke up.
If Zap is now the mouth for m0o (especially after deserting in a huff), then I want to hear it straight up from someone more respectable.
And remember, this is not the original Lord Zap. This Lord Zap purchased the account on e-bay...
~Molari out.
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.03.03 16:01:00 -
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LMFAO, and I thought the CA was going to become a problem. It's good to know that some people think size matters, appearently not every was listening to Master Yoda when he said, "Size matters not." just before he pulled Skywalker's X-wing out of that sawmp. But hey what does Yoda know, it's not like he trained Jedi for 800 years!!! 
Yoda was a muppet... like you.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.03 16:08:00 -
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"In reality, mOo and the Forsaken Empire Alliance's battles had only scratched the surface of FA ship counts. Quickly the situation spiralled down to a stalemate...FA controlling Fountain during the AM North American hours and Forsaken Empire corps controlling Fountain during the PM North American hours."
In the brief two weeks m0o corp were in Fountain we killed well over 100 battleships. They fought bravely for the first week but quickly realised they were outgunned. And by their own admission they breathed a huge sigh of relief when we left and could set about reclaiming Fountain from the inferior FE. If 100+ battleships in 2 weeks is merely a scratch, the FA truly were/are the mightiest alliance.
"Of course Lord Zap would have absolutely no knowledge of this situation because he wasn't even in Fountain region...but many in the Forsaken Empire will agree that Lord Zap's in-game ego easily can take up 3 or 4 regions at a time."
Hey, you wouldn't have it any other way.
"Many members of the F-E have great respect for mOo members. What you see is some animosity towards the ego-manic Lord Zap. Many of our membership will take no pleasure in killing...if it comes down to it...several mOo members. Lord Zap, on the other hand, may be a complete different matter."
Well, the CA might not be so happy with you once they realise your members like to go flying around with bookmarks to safe spots in your hold. I still can't believe your members were retarded enough to do that
Anyways, I will always have much respect for the original CA (FE not included) and it will if nothing else be a fun campaign. We can rejoice in the fact that you will all be able to replay your deaths over and over again in Revs next installment "The Reclamation of Curse" Remember FE, most of m0o have fought for the CA in the past, indeed we have lost ships for them. When it comes down to it, are you prepared to do the same?
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2004.03.03 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tibor Ferenc on 03/03/2004 16:11:24
I think that most of m0o would agree whith what im about to say so here goes:
Yes we have been friends with CA for some time but that aside we want to PVP pure and simple. The strongest possible opponent for us to fight in my eyes is CA. As far as im concerned I have no ill will against CA but I know that I will have fun fighting them. On the flip side I know that the majority of CA PVP'ers have been board with all this *** peace business. Whats the point of being the biggest, richest and most powerful alliance if you cant try to spank ppl.
So to sum up all I want is a good fight and to wftpwn you all As far as I know we respect each other so lets show EvE the best war its ever seen and lets try to keep the politics out of this as thats not what its about.
See you in HLW
Tib.
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.03.03 16:10:00 -
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Does anyone really care what Lord Zap says? 
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