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Jack Thurner
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:08:00 -
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Garia: If i could change my characters name and race, i would.  |

Arenis Xemdal
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:16:00 -
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Wow, it took a full day for somebody to use this crappy argument. Being Amarr has nothing to do with flying Amarr, so please get a clue and stop bemoaning already. Most people base their characters on looks more than anything, when they're starting the game.
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Andreya
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:23:00 -
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amarr are slave traders, it just shows 16% of you guys HAVE NO MORALES        _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar Fleet of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Norwood Franskly on 13/11/2007 15:29:02 Amarr have nice command ships too with a slave set, warfare link and a plate setup you can give the Damnation more hitpoints then a carrier and it has better resists as well, some guy in our corp did it, the thing may not have the best DPS but it is nigh unkillable...
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NoobALTS
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Wow, it took a full day for somebody to use this crappy argument. Being Amarr has nothing to do with flying Amarr, so please get a clue and stop bemoaning already. Most people base their characters on looks more than anything, when they're starting the game.
What is being argused is that new players are avoiding/remaking their chars to prevent themselves retrining SP, which is valuble at the start. For vets, this SP amount is trifle, but for new players, even 100,000k SP lost is important. The number of new players who remade their chars away from Amarr upon advise is amazing!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: ilovedronesandcarriers all characters were included including alts and month old players
remember that caldari are the macho men and amarr girls dont have any skimpy outfits
anyone can train any race no matter their bloodline
that is the problem, it doesnt say anything about "amarr specific sp/capita" aka says nothing about caldari who train amarr, or amarr who train gallente. although i suppose the best way to measure that is ships flown:ships lost.
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:49:00 -
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I chose Achura for the stats, but I fly Amarr ships. CCP needs to allow more attribute point customization, so that those who wish to roleplay aren't at a disadvantage compared to those who don't.
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Aya Otosaki
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Posted - 2007.11.13 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice It's official, 16% of players generate 57% of all whines!
I dont think mc has any high ground to speak from after the carrier whinage. ----- Ignorance is my strength. |

ilovedronesandcarriers
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Posted - 2007.11.13 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: ilovedronesandcarriers all characters were included including alts and month old players
remember that caldari are the macho men and amarr girls dont have any skimpy outfits
anyone can train any race no matter their bloodline
that is the problem, it doesnt say anything about "amarr specific sp/capita" aka says nothing about caldari who train amarr, or amarr who train gallente. although i suppose the best way to measure that is ships flown:ships lost.
is suppose so thats a whole list of data to analyze though
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Duvolle
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:17:00 -
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The Amarr Navy operates under the simple doctrine of applying overwhelming force to any given situation. The Amarr Navy has almost twice as many ships as the next two empire navies put together, though the quality of some of the Amarrian ships are questionable as many of them has not been refitted for decades and are almost obsolete. Amarr Navy
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Hanno Mir
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:38:00 -
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433,000 characters, there are 164,000 Caldari pilots (38%), 116,000 Gallente pilots (27%), 86,000 Minmatar pilots (20%), and 68,000 Amarr pilots (16%).
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesnt that make 101%?
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Plave Okice
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aya Otosaki
Originally by: Plave Okice It's official, 16% of players generate 57% of all whines!
I dont think mc has any high ground to speak from after the carrier whinage.

Firstly, MC didn't make that post, Plave Okice did, me.
Secondly, find one post where I whine about carriers.
Thirdly, it was obviously just a joke, even the OP laughed.
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:48:00 -
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What is it with people interpreting the statistics to mean things they don't? First we have curzon and his "omg 91% of eve are being shafted", and now we have this. 16% of characters being amarr != 16% of players flying amarr.
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Dark Chaplain
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:50:00 -
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I'm new. I went amarr.
I intent to go with the armageddon because I'm here to have fun not to wave numbers around and go crazy when someone beats me.
:( I can't afford a 'Geddon thats the only problem right now.
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Cygnus Zhada
Amarr The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Elmicker What is it with people interpreting the statistics to mean things they don't? First we have curzon and his "omg 91% of eve are being shafted", and now we have this. 16% of characters being amarr != 16% of players flying amarr.
Read this, these are FACTS.
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Jennai
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.13 22:04:00 -
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I wonder how many of those are sales alts.
both my alts are amarr ni-kunni - the first one because I made it before this character and didn't know what I was doing, and the second one because I needed a sales alt and amarr had the best stats to train up accounting etc fast.
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari Setenta Corp Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.11.13 22:10:00 -
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who cares amarr race suck... i realised this when i turned 60 mill sp... now i train misils etc... cause amarian race cant do ****... SADLY! OMFG
I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.13 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Read this, these are FACTS.
Yes, they are. However, they're not the facts you want them to be. "Characters" covers ALL characters. Including on-account alts and trials. An eejit could see that. Approximately 200k accounts, yet, 68k characters makes up 16% of the population. Aside from that, character race actually has nearly no bearing on the ships that character can fly. My caldari achura alt flies gallente ships exclusively, for example.
Yes, i realise there are problems with amarr and yes i realise their ships need some massive improvements, but these are not the statistics you're looking for.
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Yao Shiu
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Posted - 2007.11.13 22:28:00 -
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I think in all the (few) mmorpg's I've ever played I've always tried to play the least played race/class 
I like being amarr (my main is)... but then I dont play totalhelldeath hardcore like I assume the majority of the community on the forums do.
important point though - no where near all the players of eve use the forums.
there is some good stuff on amarr in the sticky , as previously stated
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Kasak Black
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.11.13 22:32:00 -
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I am Caldari by birth, yet I have trained all my life in Amarrian Spaceship Combats!
So I consider myself to be Amarr despite my Caldari looks. So its probally higher than 16%.
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azrael2
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Posted - 2007.11.13 22:48:00 -
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I just wish ccp added more content to being amarr... someone clever should figure some bonuses for each race seperately People call me a slaver... but just because it says in the story line i am. I'd like it also shown in the game...so i want slaves and i want em bringing in isk too So plz ccp give me slaves and let me be able to use em.
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JohnStar
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.14 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Garia666
Quote: The amarr race should be an more atractive race Quote:
garia your still buttugly
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Drake Dracoli
Deviance Inc DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.11.14 05:53:00 -
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I'm so glad I started as Gallente.
When I was a noob, and I thought Gallente characters and ships looked the prettiest, so I chose them. XD ------ \o/ Raise thy weapons on this day Ye shall not die alone Fight and die; let valkyries fly For they shall take thee home! |

Rilder
Caldari THC LTD Dogs of War.
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Posted - 2007.11.14 06:17:00 -
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To be honest if I had to start over from scratch it would probably be Amarr.
I have my reasons.  --
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Leora Nomen
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Posted - 2007.11.14 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Khes
Originally by: Garia666
The amarr race should be an more atractive race.. who should appeal to the players.. My best guess is that the recent amarr players are made just because people pick them by accident instead of the roles or ideals or the power of our race..
New players do not choose race because of the ships abilities. They choose race by the information they get during the character creation. So the reason there are few amarr players is not because of how good or bad their ships are.
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Most new players pick the race based on the background story and attribute distribution. There are so many Caldari characters out there because Achura makes for some really great, albeit the least hot, characters to train for combat or science professions. If you talk to rookies very few of them are aware of what ships pwn in EVE and what ships suck, they don't even know the names of these ships and they can't even remember the names of all races. They picked their character either based on its race's story, or because their friends have characters of same race, or because they were trying to optimize the attributes.
The percent of ships of each race flown in game is more of an indication which race is more useful to train for. And here Caldari are once again #1 and Amarr ships are fewest in game.
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2k7
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Posted - 2007.11.14 07:00:00 -
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the amarr-amarr female bloodline has some of the most 'sexy' avatars in the game (look at tyrrax for example) although it is personal preference ofc. Khanid cyberknights have nice attribs too.
Oh yeah, you should remember the sheer, insane amount of alts in this game will skew any stats beyond practical usability.
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Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.14 07:15:00 -
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Having two accounts one is Minmatar trained to Caldari simply be cause I could not be arsed to work out the falloff and so on... A second one is a pure ammar female, and I have to say that she pretty much has been forced into science since she is pretty much rubish in most ships despite here attributes being set up like the PvP players dream...
Yes there is few ammar and yes we do cry about our beautiful lasers being taken away and made useless forcing us to use missiles. This does not mean we are somehow less then any other player in the game it just means that we feel that we should be able to use our racial weapon platform and that maybe CCP should look into altering the laser cap and power requirements to be more in line with the blasters and rails making the need for the overly large amount of cap on the ammar ships go away. For now my main (this char) is flying Caldari and loving it and we shall see what if anything CCP does for the ammar. If not I have a very slow learning science character on my hands...  ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |

Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.11.14 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice It's official, 16% of players generate 57% of all whines!

Nice one.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.11.14 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: bloomich You also have to remember that most new players will remake their character during the trial period.
E.G someone with 20 charisma and Amarr race is going to be advised by his first corp that he joins to remake ASAP! Heck, even with great stats, a lot of new Amarr pilots get advised from their corpmembers to change asap!
Also, most new players will look at the forums breifly to see what people think about the races. Amarr are a mostly useless race, therefore all these legitimate complaints will make new players delete their chars and remake as any of the other races during their first week even without corpmembers loling at them
My attributes are rather skewed and I didn't reroll. Hasn't worked out as doomsday as people told me it would either. After about 14 months in game I've got 23 million sps.
But, yeah, I agree with what other people are saying. I chose Minmatar based completely on the race description and the Avatars. Sorry ugly nutjob religious slave owners didn't do it for me.
-Karl
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cal nereus
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.11.14 08:33:00 -
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A lot of the older characters are Amarr, as Amarr used to be the flavor-of-the-(insert period of time here). Now, they're still cool in their own unique way, but not flavor-of-the-(insert period of time here), and it just so happens that more people are joining the game while Gallente/Caldari are the talk of the town than were joining back when Amarr were the masters of space. ---
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