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Grizwold
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Posted - 2004.03.03 21:10:00 -
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Since this reversal was not expected (at least by me) for at least a few more weeks, I would be most interested in the views of other Eve-ites on who they think will win and why.
IMHO I would expect MOO to sweep the skies of the CA PVPers in less than 2 weeks, as while CA has enormous resources (come on down RUS), they do not have the numbers of experienced PVPs nor the advanced coordination to deal with the quality and coordination of the MOO PVPers.
I would also expect to see a migration of a number of the larger CA corps as a result of these losses and that these Corps would then leave or be pushed out of Curselandia by MOO (or other CA members in an effort to stop the bleeding).
I would sincerly hope that the SA and Evolution stay out of this fight as it would be more honourable for MOO to accomplish this "education" by themselves than give the CA an excuse by saying they were beset upon by a group of alliances.
Best of luck to the multi-stomached carnivorous bovines in their education of the CA (and especially the RUS).
cheers
and the Drambuie and Guinness are on me.
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Zloba
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Posted - 2004.03.03 21:25:00 -
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Grizwold why do you hate us so much? Oh wait, as far as i remember you lost 2 bships to RUS. And both times it was sooo lame +)))
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Jequan
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Posted - 2004.03.03 21:30:00 -
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Quote: Grizwold why do you hate us so much? Oh wait, as far as i remember you lost 2 bships to RUS. And both times it was sooo lame +)))
hehe 
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Enriques
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Posted - 2004.03.03 21:50:00 -
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I saw a few more CA members than usual in Empire fringe space, but on the whole it looks like CA are gunna slug it out. I expect lots of videos 
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Nelix Trist
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Posted - 2004.03.03 21:50:00 -
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rus are nice people, when i ran into them once the guy was really nice, wait that was 4 motnhs ago . kthnbye ----------------------------------
Bad A*s Pilot / Rank 5 / SP: 1,000,000 of 1,300,000 |

Druanna
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:01:00 -
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Who cares?
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:23:00 -
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(SPEAKING FOR MYSELF HERE. THIS IS NOT THE OFFICAL m0o STANCE)
I have friends in CA and have fought alongside them on numerous occasions and I would like to point out that to the best of my knollage there is no m0o member with any ill feeling towards CA.
This fight is plain and simply for fun. I like to PvP and other than CA there is no Alliance that can withstand an all out assalt by us. So I fairly sure thats why we want to fight them.
I know that I will be able to speak with my pals in CA joke with them and take the p1ss all in the name of good fun. Which lets be honest is what a "game" is all about. Dont get me wrong I want to win (and we will) but more importantly it will be a good fight.
Unfortunatley the tone has already been lowered by various ppl talking smack already (notably not by m0o or the core members of CA). This I feel is regretable as I know it is not what m0o wanted.
m0o will win thru use of superior PvP experiance pure and simple (pls dont forget we have fought alongside CA a lot). TBH I cant wait.
Lets have a good fight and try to be grown up about it.
Tib.
(Nego fix my sig u nub :P ) http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:25:00 -
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Quote: Grizwold why do you hate us so much? Oh wait, as far as i remember you lost 2 bships to RUS. And both times it was sooo lame +)))
RUS = wtf pwned by Stain (Do you remember the RUS-Stain war? Yeah I thought so)
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |

pooti
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:47:00 -
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Quote: Who cares?
A lot of people, apparently.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:55:00 -
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I'm sure m0o will inflict a lot of damage on CA, but I don't think CA can lose. They have so many good fighters down in CA. Even if the alliance has become somewhat bloated recently, at its core are a lot of good fighters. And with FE now joined with them I don't see how m0o can win.
CA might lose more ships than m0o, but they have more to lose.
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2004.03.03 22:59:00 -
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Just block the choke points that m0o has to pass through to get to CA
5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers.. Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer.
My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 19. September 2004 |

KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: KIAPieman on 03/03/2004 23:12:16 the question shouldnt be who will win, it should be how do you define victory? mo0 can declare victory in many ways:
1: stopping the CA from functioning (mining, chanining etc) 2: Killing ships in numbers so large even they cannot replace them in time. 3: de-moralising the CA to the extent that they fracture into smaller bands or into individual corps. 4: forcing them to move to empire to be able to function.
the CA can win by: 1: stopping mo0 from entering CA space in the 1st place. 2: not engaging them, or giving them easy kills (lone travellers etc) and making it not profitable 3: or the simple option (well the simplest to say) killing them.
to be honmest in both cases i believe that option 1 will be taken by both sides. so i believe that there will be no clear "victor" in this war. unless someone makes a ****up of epic proportions.
thats my opinion anyways --------------------------------------------------------
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Grizwold
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:10:00 -
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Or more likely, the choke point for CA to get to empire....only 3 ways into empire...I'm sure there will be cow patties on all three systems before long...
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Xavier Hawk
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:15:00 -
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Well... I have had a blast the last week or so chasing and being chased by RUS. I have also been chased around Catch by cOw and other CA corps.
I have no ill feelings towards anyone... in fact, they are a damn bunch of nice guys. There is no doubt that M0o / Evol and CA will have some awesome battles. I truly look forward to seeing the videos.
I can also expect to be caught between fire in that region and will take my losses like a man.
Good hunting CA, M0o and Evol... 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:19:00 -
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If i count the ammount of ship that we have inbound then it's probably smarter for the sake of whole eve to not fight at all.
The estimate currently is a fleet of around 100-150 enemies, add up 100-150 we can get = like the amarr cerimony event but then 100 people more in 1 system. Remember what happend during the amarr system? Well ill refresh your memory: The server collapsed and chocked and the event was continued in an IRC channel, and this was in a HIGHWAY system where the node has way more strength than a 0.0 system has. Since CCP and we cannot forsee where were going to fight, it will be impossible to boost the system that will be the battleground enough up to carry that many users so the end conclusion is:
Loads of people looking at frozen screens, huge lag, and maybe a nice smokesignal i can spot all the way up from UK. __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

The Monk
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: The Monk on 03/03/2004 23:38:41 Bring it m0o, ShinRa will feast on your souls. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |

Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:39:00 -
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Neither will "win".
Neither can "win".
But both may have some fun... which is the point.
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.03.04 00:33:00 -
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Due to the current game mechanics I don't think either side can "win" definitively. But having dealt firsthand with both Mo0 and the CA in conflicts, I gotta lean towards Mo0. Its a battle of quality versus quantity. CA will lose much more than Mo0 in this conflict no doubt.
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.03.04 00:34:00 -
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im just excited for some pvp, politics suck!
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fuze
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Posted - 2004.03.04 00:57:00 -
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CA won't know what hit them.
They aren't fighting m0o just alone but also the other wars on several fronts. You're mighty industry will be crippeled for as long the war will last. That will choke the warmachine. Just a matter of time. ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts! |

Ywev
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Posted - 2004.03.04 03:13:00 -
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I don't want to mine, so I will just make sure, i get all my minerals from ca :)
Pod ya later.. Ywev
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Darwin
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Posted - 2004.03.04 03:41:00 -
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Blah Blah... You guys sound like a bunch of Soccer Moms 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.04 03:43:00 -
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Quote: I don't want to mine, so I will just make sure, i get all my minerals from ca :)
I suggest you destroy industrials then. Cause it seems the normal lootdrop from CA ships are:
Industrials: 147k mega, 115k zyd and 6k morph.
while battleships: 54k mega.
That suggest the loot drop tables are b0rked though, so CCP may fix it soon(tm). Until then: kill industrials for best profit.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Majin Buu
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Posted - 2004.03.04 05:28:00 -
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tbh i cannot see anyone winning this due to all the lag. moo will fight with there usual 15+ BS's, evol will come along with there fleet, and well ca will as usuall go completley overboard and come out with 80+ BS's and totally lag the place up
BoB KillBoard |

Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.03.04 05:31:00 -
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Quote: I don't want to mine, so I will just make sure, i get all my minerals from ca :)
There are no minerals, or weapons of mass destruction in curse. Mercenary | The Azath |

Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2004.03.04 06:34:00 -
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i suspect what will happen is ca's enemys may cut some of the waste in ca corps but as for winning unless ca wtfpwns m0o and evol on their front door then neither can win
some alliance leaches will be driven off some will stay (you know the guy trying to sell an inplant while you are under attack)the pvp corps will have fun and minners will cry
m0o and evol will move on
maybe or maybe ca will split with one side supported by the current ca enemys causing an even greater wtfpwn happening to the other sides minners and even greater fun for the pvp corps
ahh content player made is always the best
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Araviel
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Posted - 2004.03.04 07:21:00 -
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CA have enormous resources, i was scouting their mining fields this week, was amazed when i saw huge amounts of arkanor just 4 jumps from base. but they resources cant last forever, whit the adjustments of NPC spawns this last patch they wont be able to mine in the same speed they used to,
currently they got war on all sides, we in CFS are doing smal geurilla raids into curse, SA strikes them from south, celestial apocalypse makes regular attacks and they got EVOL on their necks, and if moo strikes them aswell i wonder how much longer they can hold out.
smart by moo to strike against CA, they drop the best loot in the game 
EPIC Recruitment post
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2004.03.04 09:24:00 -
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Ywev bring Jort with you  _______________________________________________
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.03.04 09:59:00 -
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lol its funny to see all the little Stain nubs jump for joy over this news.
'Ooooh we are getting pwned daily ....we need bigger boys to save us' 'Yay here comes m0o (a corp who have hated and fought us for months) to fight CA, go m0o we wub you'
News flash, this is break from your pwnage and possibly a needed culling of CA but it will business as usual before you can even say 'log out at jump in'
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.03.04 10:06:00 -
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Only oblivion's dark, sacred embrace will claim the day.
exploring Charity's body is sooooo inspiring La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs Star Fraction http://www.voodoorockers.co.uk/ |

Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.03.04 10:12:00 -
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So are m0o also allied with Stain, seeing how stain are bragging about them coming to help m0o out.
Disapoiting if true. Mercenary | The Azath |

Sabahl
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Posted - 2004.03.04 11:34:00 -
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Quote: Ywev bring Jort with you 
LOL! Quote of the year. 
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Ackath
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Posted - 2004.03.04 11:50:00 -
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Quote: lol its funny to see all the little Stain nubs jump for joy over this news.
'Ooooh we are getting pwned daily ....we need bigger boys to save us' 'Yay here comes m0o (a corp who have hated and fought us for months) to fight CA, go m0o we wub you'
News flash, this is break from your pwnage and possibly a needed culling of CA but it will business as usual before you can even say 'log out at jump in'
Dunno why you guys have this Stain complex! Yeah Stain was a bit unorganized after some of the folks left game and yes we were pwned at times..BUT we are recovering and we were recovering before these new developments.
Stain had/has the will, maybe lacks the numbers and maybe a bit of courage but when the ones that CARE gather be sure CA hurts.
Who wins all this M0o vs CA, EVOL vs CA fight?? FUN will! and ..SA in a small percentage 
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.03.04 14:23:00 -
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Quote: Ywev bring Jort with you 
I still got J0rt¦s old reaper at a secure location So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Macumba
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Posted - 2004.03.04 14:47:00 -
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Estios you bad monkey!
S'true though.
"PVP = griefing" Papa Smurf |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.03.04 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Bared Bel'Medar on 04/03/2004 23:57:44 Edited by: Bared Bel'Medar on 04/03/2004 23:56:07 1.) Having Fought M0o, and having fought CA, CA in general require equal to or more ships than any SA fleet to be assured victory *edit* this is not to say individual commanders will not pull ships back before contact with the enemy, or that a blob war will occur. As to the Events at C9N: 4 to one or more? Pretty crappy odds.*edit* The Bovine Locusts on the other hand can battle those same members of SA but with half as many ships and be assured victory. Thus, by the 4GQ betting odds its 2-1 in favor of M0o. Now through in the effectiveness of Evolution's Gurilla campaigns and fleet quality and you've reduced CA's fighting prowess again. So I'd put CA at 3-1 in M0o/Evols favor. Now some SA corps may or may not assist m0o, and those who are thinking about it are premier in SA. So then you have 4-1 odds agains CA.
2.) *Edit* Nope, nevermind, SWI will either be sitting back or following Tyrell's lead. So, now I'm really happy, no comflict of interest anywhere anymore.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Lallante
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Posted - 2004.03.04 20:13:00 -
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Im (arguably) one of the leading PvPers (note not the best by any means) in the CA. All I can say is THANK YOU M0o!
We have so many **** bloated assfecks in the CA at the moment, what we DESPERATELY need is a cull.
What I hope to see is:
first few days: Enormous CA losses as the noobs are de-BSed
after 1 week: The corps that suck leave the CA or hibernate like fuzzy carebears that they are
after that: Big m0o/evol losses as they can only fight the 'original' CA PvP elite.
3 weeks in: m0o/evol temporarily retreat to replace lost stuff.
And repeat to infinity.
After a year or so, Korean players will arrive in the game and within 15mins of the first one activating their account, they will have carved out an empire over 1/3 of space.
after a few weeks more, m0o and evol will join CA, crush the remaining alliances leaving CA (renamed WESTERN ALLIANCE) vs Korea/EASTERN ALLIANCE for contorl of the game.
Obviously, eventually the Eastern hordes will overrun us and the server will hit 50k on sundays (45k of wich are 8 korean guys and their alt accounts Powergaming)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.04 20:21:00 -
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lol lallante, u have it all planned dont u:)
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.03.04 20:32:00 -
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I have my suspicians that (since I am policaly versed) eventually CA will become carebeared in the aftermath of the war and not even care about fighting SA. Then the Korean players will join and SA will have no choice but (forgive the heresy my friends, I speak slightly inebriated) join CA and crush the Korean player's allaince do to a language barrier. That or the aftermath of m0o it will be CA crushed, m0o bored; m0o attacking SA, m0o bored; m0o attacking Xetic while SA and CA go back to the usual order of business. So, I dont think much will change.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.03.04 20:54:00 -
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Quote: After a year or so, Korean players will arrive in the game and within 15mins of the first one activating their account, they will have carved out an empire over 1/3 of space.
after a few weeks more, m0o and evol will join CA, crush the remaining alliances leaving CA (renamed WESTERN ALLIANCE) vs Korea/EASTERN ALLIANCE for contorl of the game.
Obviously, eventually the Eastern hordes will overrun us and the server will hit 50k on sundays (45k of wich are 8 korean guys and their alt accounts Powergaming)
I see a lot of references to a coming korean "invasion" and, tbh I don't know if it is all sarcasam or if their is any thruth to it. Are they really releasing eve in korea soon, and, not having played a game with hoardes of koreans, what is the big deal about them joining eve?
If all of your post was sarcasam, gg you got me, I really am just curious on the topic. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2004.03.04 21:43:00 -
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koreans take their gaming very very seriously,like a real life shoot out in a internet cafe after a clan game of cs.
you have been warned.
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Georg Inekn
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Posted - 2004.03.04 21:44:00 -
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I can't speak to any pending Asian release, but having played MMOs that contained significant numbers of the Korean gaming community, I can say that they're gonna make Zombies, Inc. look like girl scouts. Korean gamers have a (deservered) reputation for being ruthless and extreme exploiters.
Note to the GMs: ban early, ban often.
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Belzeem
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Posted - 2004.03.04 22:39:00 -
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Lallante- lmfaoroflpmp- Yes Koreans are hardcore - I remember them from my Diablo2 days. As for the upcoming battles in CA I look forward to it. I hope those pirates evol come too. I learned a long time ago in a lil system called Aring just what evol is like. SO let the good times roll
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.03.04 22:43:00 -
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Quote: Due to the current game mechanics I don't think either side can "win" definitively. But having dealt firsthand with both Mo0 and the CA in conflicts, I gotta lean towards Mo0. Its a battle of quality versus quantity. CA will lose much more than Mo0 in this conflict no doubt.
Quantity has a quality all its own."
Those words were spoken by Joseph Stalin and he surely handed the world a prime example of quantity beating quality.
IF CA has as deep resources as have been claimed and IF they are willing to ride those resources to the bitter end it would be foolish of m0o or anyone to count them out regardless of perceived differences in quality.
Assuming CA has montrous reserves and assuming they will liberally tap into those reserves then I think CA has a better than even chance of fighting off m0o. If CA does not have the reserves some claim they do or if they refuse to use a significant amount of them in a war then m0o will likely own the day.
Just my 0.02 ISK Be interesting to see how it unfolds.
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2004.03.04 23:15:00 -
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OVERCOPES 1 Shootings over games are not just confined to the Far East anyone remember the shootings outside a webcafe between 2 CS clans in LA.
But back on topic ppl should not underestimate the collective wealth of m0o members combined with the corp.
Tib.
http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.03.04 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: RagnarH on 04/03/2004 23:18:57 SA + m0o + Evol vs CA, who do u thing win ? 
YOU ARE GOING DOWN CA !  This char is perm banned on forums :S |

RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.03.04 23:20:00 -
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Lallante, I heard u died 2day  nice  This char is perm banned on forums :S |

Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.03.04 23:22:00 -
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Quote: But back on topic ppl should not underestimate the collective wealth of m0o members combined with the corp.
Interesting...a few weeks ago I wrote a post on these forums talking about the overall wealth of pirate corps. Every single pirate who responded claimed they were really rather poor and it is the carebear miners who have all the money. I didn't believe them then...I will be interested to see if any respond by claiming they are actually quite wealthy as well. Fact is if they are as poor as they claimed in the other thread CA will cream them. Even if m0o gets a better ratio of ship kills m0o will simply run out of steam long before they can undermine CA.
My guess is m0o has deeper pockets than they like to let on.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.03.04 23:26:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: RagnarH on 04/03/2004 23:18:57 SA + m0o + Evol vs CA, who do u thing win ? 
YOU ARE GOING DOWN CA ! 
Sure you dont wanna bring FA and PA..just to make sure ya know..
I'll also smile when your guys are podded by m0o  Mercenary | The Azath |

The Monk
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Posted - 2004.03.04 23:28:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: RagnarH on 04/03/2004 23:18:57 SA + m0o + Evol vs CA, who do u thing win ? 
YOU ARE GOING DOWN CA ! 
We have always been fighting the whole eve universe nothing new there we will do it again. and again. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |

ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.03.04 23:32:00 -
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If SA is smart they will stay out of this and use the time to rebuild.  Just my humble opinion, not official evol stance. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Jimmeh
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Posted - 2004.03.04 23:47:00 -
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I reckon Lord Zap will be last man standing, he'll then retire to Yulai and take up mining Veldspar in an indy. 
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Jequan
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Posted - 2004.03.05 01:12:00 -
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Quote: Neither will "win".
Neither can "win".
But both may have some fun... which is the point.
Wise words.
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Abram
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Posted - 2004.03.05 03:07:00 -
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Quote: Grizwold why do you hate us so much? Oh wait, as far as i remember you lost 2 bships to RUS. And both times it was sooo lame +)))
I am not a big forum person but after reading this I must respond
Zloba: never in my long history of playing online games have I heard so much trash talk (granted mostly in local chat)from someone who gets his butt kicked as much as you. When I confronted you on this you have me blocked. You lose your ships...you lose you wingman's ships... you are just plain awful. If you were Onego on the other hand you could back it up...I look forward coming back to Curse to kill you some more. |

Zenst
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Posted - 2004.03.05 03:21:00 -
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As with any war, it depends on how you define the win. It could go on for ages. It could never even start. Only people that win either way are the ship and ammo dealers out there.
I expect the marketing campaing managers already have several plans of attack to win some extra sales, from either side/both if they can 
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Zenst
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Posted - 2004.03.05 03:26:00 -
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Quote: koreans take their gaming very very seriously,like a real life shoot out in a internet cafe after a clan game of cs.
you have been warned.
Well we're struggling to get T2 components out here, let alone on planet earth; So I feel safe 
Besides my safespot is only in the next room cloacked in a duvet.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.05 03:49:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 05/03/2004 03:52:00 Dont have a clue how it will go.
Just hope i have fun, im sure that is guranteed :).
Oh nice quote i just heard.
"Figured we spent so much time kicking everybody elses asses it was about time we got our own kicked." - Sgt. Elios, Platoon Reverend Necrona |

Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.05 04:04:00 -
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Quote: Dont have a clue how it will go.
Just hope i have fun, im sure that is guranteed :).
Oh nice quote i just heard.
"Figured we spent so much time kicking everybody elses asses it was about time we got our own kicked." - Sgt. Elios, Platoon
Best outcome in my personal opinion: CA and m0o (suprise, suprise) pod the **** out of Evolution. Molle declares that outcome as yet another successful campaign whatsoever because everyone is insured and Flatliner can add more merit to his bio. -- Stories: #1 --
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.03.05 04:16:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: RagnarH on 04/03/2004 23:18:57 SA + m0o + Evol vs CA, who do u thing win ? 
YOU ARE GOING DOWN CA ! 
Who are you, and does the above mentioned thing mean that SA will fly their BS again, down from empire So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.03.05 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Slithereen on 05/03/2004 04:42:17
Yes, you can download EVE from any part of the world. So long as you have a credit card, VISA or Amex, you can log into EVE. That includes Korea. In Asia, it's easy to download a game like EVE, make stacks of copies of it in CD-RW and sell the disks at just above the cost of the CD-RW itself. It's piracy when it applies to other single player games, but for an MMO, its not piracy since you still have to apply a subscription online to play it. Subcription gaming is the best counter to piracy in Asia, and the copiers actually even help distribute the product.
I've battled Koreans before online, and they are extreme, determined players. I find the most smack talking think-he-is-l33t-griefer player or corp in this EVE game to be small potatoes compared to Korea Online. They will do anything in their power and beyond to beat you, and they could not care less whether you're noob or vet, and willing to employ means even if it hurts the game. The concept called "welfare of the overall game" does not exist for many of them.
The one thing more popular than CS in Korea is SC (Starcraft) but that has been changing to MMORPGs/MMORTSs as Korea now has the largest per capita of broadband in the world.
I think EVE is safe from Korean kill-clans for now, in my opinion, the game is simply not yet in their target horizons, as compared to anime style RPGs.
But perhaps if we change our avatars to nice kawaii dole eyed cuties, and include mecha in the game...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.05 04:58:00 -
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Koreans are also known to play games so long they die infront of their computers from sleep deprivation. >_> ------
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.05 05:28:00 -
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Zloba
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Posted - 2004.03.05 06:11:00 -
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Edited by: Zloba on 05/03/2004 06:17:47 Abram, why you leave EV? Oh wait, i know, cos EVOL don't have war with RUS, so you can happily mine veldspar in Yulai.
Rats running from sinking ship.
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Imperishable
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Posted - 2004.03.05 06:42:00 -
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I lived in South Korea for 6 years. I seen them plan at computer game rooms - there's one on every block. So most of them don't even own a computer, they just go there, pay a little money, and load up their favorite game on a very nice computer with very good internet connection. I seen them play, it's scary. If EVE becomes a fad over there, we are all doomed.. DOOMED.. MUAHAHA.. err sorry
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2004.03.05 11:35:00 -
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I'm single handedly trying getting the population of China here, I'll introduce the game to the virus that is Korea soon :) We're donald ducked when that happens.
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Abram
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:52:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Zloba on 05/03/2004 06:17:47 Abram, why you leave EV? Oh wait, i know, cos EVOL don't have war with RUS, so you can happily mine veldspar in Yulai.
Rats running from sinking ship.
no because you have a tendency to get by EVOL while your busy gabbing in local. Remember ES-UWY? Where you were too busy saying how awesome you were in local not to see EVOL jump in the system lock you down and kill you? Please keep doing all the talking you do. It makes you way easier to kill.
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FileCop AI
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Posted - 2004.03.05 16:28:00 -
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Uhm, lets all go mine as a happy force of noobships - after all, that seems to be the point of nerfing npc (talking about webbing, scrambling, shooting etc. from 100km+)
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Novamute
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Posted - 2004.03.05 17:13:00 -
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Who cares. 
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.03.05 18:02:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Edited by: Zloba on 05/03/2004 06:17:47 Abram, why you leave EV? Oh wait, i know, cos EVOL don't have war with RUS, so you can happily mine veldspar in Yulai.
Rats running from sinking ship.
no because you have a tendency to get by EVOL while your busy gabbing in local. Remember ES-UWY? Where you were too busy saying how awesome you were in local not to see EVOL jump in the system lock you down and kill you? Please keep doing all the talking you do. It makes you way easier to kill.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2004.03.05 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Lowa on 05/03/2004 19:39:30 Lallente: That was about the funniest thing I've read on this forum! Me and some of my EVE-crew has just managed to get up from the floor!
Truly this time: ROTFL!!! 
Regards, LOWA
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Masi
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Posted - 2004.03.05 20:25:00 -
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Interesting, this is actuly a bigger picture then it seems. Will be an interesting and fun war to follow :) -------------------------
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