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Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:09:00 - [31] I guess you should settle for "FC sucks", "Stupid FC" or similar C\|S\|I\|N\|x.
PhalHell Minmatar Rubra Libertas Militia	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:07:00 - [32] My next character will be baptised "D. nextname" The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of my corps, not necessarily mine, and probably not necessary.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:20:00 - [33] Like my toon. Brand-name and specialization. :) Too expensive to be honest ;s --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:01:00 - [34] Skill points, specialization, learning skills, all matter. For me, if I ever were going to purchase a character, the name would be immensely important. I wouldn't want a name that was misspelled, or just plain stupid. I always figured Dense Veldspar or Massive Scordite would go for a fair amount. If I had to create a new account, I might go for Nobody as my new name (assuming it wasn't already taken). "Nobody is primary!" "Who has you scrammed? Nobody!" ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:54:00 - [35] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Like my toon. Brand-name and specialization. :) Too expensive to be honest ;s How much did you pay? Couple of hundred? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Xcom Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.20 00:15:00 - [36] A while back I tried to make a char with a good name I liked. Was surprised about how many names are already occupied. Its ridiculous how many useless alts are taking up extra space. Some might have even been deleted. IÆm pretty sure that 90% of the names suggested above are already in.
Duck Andcover Don't be Alarmed	Posted - 2007.11.20 00:32:00 - [37] Edited by: Duck Andcover on 20/11/2007 00:33:23 Originally by: FT Diomedes I always figured Dense Veldspar or Massive Scordite would go for a fair amount. There used to be a Concord Billboard, but I believe he was taken aside for a quiet word. Great names though.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Isseras Manufacture	Posted - 2007.11.20 12:40:00 - [38] Originally by: Akita T Definetely names like "AmarrCitizen 875123" or "otcvwjhv" decrease value. Famous and/or sci-fi themed names definetely add value. Feh, I actually know an "AmarrCitizen" guy. Can't remember his number, though...
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.20 13:30:00 - [39] Originally by: Malcanis How much did you pay? Couple of hundred? Too much ISKs to be honest. :s --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
the Entity the evil ones	Posted - 2007.11.20 14:27:00 - [40] ive been convoed many a time 'uve got the name i wanted!' still waiting on a BIG offer tho (big enough that ill take >:D ) Originally by: Wild Rho Do you use Eve as a dating agency and got unlucky in that your perfect women turned out to be a hairy trucker called Butch Chestington?
Maxpie Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.11.20 15:17:00 - [41] Originally by: Verone Personally, I don't agree with character sales at all in Eve... I think that one's reputation should stay with you throughout the game and you shouldn't be able to dodge the consequences of your actions by selling your char and buying a new one. QFT! He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things.
Ruah Piskonit Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.20 16:06:00 - [42] I am personally too attatched to my character(s) to sell and would feel like I had somehow bought something that would never be mine if I did ever buy a character - which I never will. And yes, it is not logical or realistic to think this. . . Ultimatly, I agree with Verone. Character sales are not healthy, neither is GTC selling for ISK by players - just throws everything out the window in my book. ----
epic113 Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.20 17:07:00 - [43] used to be in the same alliance with a guy called no1one(or something like it) i was doing invites for our wing on a random roaming op. as we were leaving i hear on vent ''epic, no1one needs a invite'', i say something like, ok but why bother telling tell me that. as the gang moves out a few jumps someone says that ''no1one is following us'' at this point im thinking the entire gang has been smoking some good **, then the fc tells me to stop **ing about and give no1one a invite as hes only a jump behind. oh wait no1ones a person?
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.11.20 19:26:00 - [44] I'd sell mine... It's just a game... My Current Project
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 19:29:00 - [45] Originally by: DarkMatter I'd sell mine... It's just a game... I get more out of the game because I identify with my character somewhat. I couldn't imagine playing as anyone else. I'd only sell if I was going to quit eve for good. probably not worth that much either... 19M SP but a lot of skill choices that reflect what I want to do rather than the minimax consensus. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.21 06:13:00 - [46] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Like my toon. Brand-name and specialization. :) Too expensive to be honest ;s Eve has characters. Go back to WOW, and dont buy characters.
Tharim Villains	Posted - 2007.11.21 06:24:00 - [47] Originally by: Orion Eridanus Names of famous sci fi character would increase the price because many people would want that name. IE, The Doctor, The Master, Captain Kirk, Han Solo, Bobba Fett, Macgyver, Matlock Id never paid a single isk for a character named The Doctor, The Master, Captain Kirk, Han Solo, Bobba Fett, Macgyver, or Matlock. No matter how many houndred million SP they got. I would be too ashamed to ever undock. Or maybe i would buy them and let the account go inactive to make sure i never had to meet a McGyver or captain kirk in EVE.
Tharim Villains	Posted - 2007.11.21 06:32:00 - [48] Originally by: epic113 used to be in the same alliance with a guy called no1one(or something like it) i was doing invites for our wing on a random roaming op. as we were leaving i hear on vent ''epic, no1one needs a invite'', i say something like, ok but why bother telling tell me that. as the gang moves out a few jumps someone says that ''no1one is following us'' at this point im thinking the entire gang has been smoking some good **, then the fc tells me to stop **ing about and give no1one a invite as hes only a jump behind. oh wait no1ones a person? lolz
Sicil Fioet Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.21 07:44:00 - [49] I'd pay more for something super specialized in one race i really want to fly rather than mediocre in three races, plus has a nice name and looks i.e. isn't an Achura named "isdfkjhs". Assets are usually thrown in to sweeten the deal when the character is lacking or seller doesn't want the hassle of selling stuff separately, and as part of the batch they sell cheaper than you can sell them separate.
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.21 08:21:00 - [50] Originally by: Sicil Fioet I'd pay more for something super specialized in one race i really want to fly rather than mediocre in three races, plus has a nice name and looks i.e. isn't an Achura named "isdfkjhs". That depends, though. I'd also value a character that is specialised in a ship class and can proficiently fly several races in that class. Personally for example I fly three races and the usefulness of skills like HAC V, CS V and Recon V is therefore a lot more than it is for someone strictly of one race. I would never buy an Achura either. I probably wouldn't use one even if I got it free. Btw don't buy Intaki, you're screwed for life. ---
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.11.21 09:48:00 - [51] Originally by: Jin Entres Btw don't buy Intaki, you're screwed for life. They make pretty decent industrialists, gang boosters and mission runners We have an intaki very old char in our corp, and he's choke-full on leadership/social skills, loads of L5s there, about 7 mil SP out of the roughly 30 he has. C\|S\|I\|N\|x.
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.21 11:15:00 - [52] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Jin Entres Btw don't buy Intaki, you're screwed for life. They make pretty decent industrialists, gang boosters and mission runners We have an intaki very old char in our corp, and he's choke-full on leadership/social skills, loads of L5s there, about 7 mil SP out of the roughly 30 he has. Here are all leadership skills (ranks): Leadership (1) Armored Warfare (2) Armored Warfare Specialist (5) Siege Warfare (2) Siege Warfare Specialist (5) Skirmish Warfare (2) Skirmish Warfare (5) Information Warfare (2) Information Warfare Specialist (5) Mining Foreman (2) Mining Director (5) Warfare Link Specialist (6) Wing Command (8) Fleet Command (12) Total: 62 ranks. One rank equals 256,000 SP, therefore 62 equals 15,872,000 SP when trained to level 5. Now let's assume that all of these skills are charisma primary, which I'm pretty sure aren't but since I have no access to the game at the moment, I can't list the proper attributes. If primary, charisma will dictate 2/3 of the training pace. Therefore, 2/3 * 15,872,000 = 10,581,332 SP. Let's say that a balanced character has half of his non-charisma skills int/mem and half per/wil (no matter which is primary). Now, a 30m SP character with all leadership skills at 5 would therefore have 19.42m (effective) SP that does not use charisma, and at equal proportions divided to the remaining four attributes that amounts to 4.85m SP used for each. For such a character, charisma would be more useful than any other attribute. For it to be equal with other attributes, such a character would need to have 52.9m SP. Most characters however are either int/mem or per/wil oriented, which means that usually more than 2/3 of their SP will be using those attributes. For such a character of 30m SP, about 6.47m SP would be used by each dominant attribute if they trained all leadership skills to level 5. At 40m SP, the figure would be 9.8m SP, only 0.8m short of what charisma uses. 15M in leadership or any charisma using skills combined is quite unrealistic, and even 5M is rare and considered specialisation. With 7.5m (which is 5m effectively used by charisma as primary), if 2/3 of your other skills are either int/mem or per/wil (or mem/int or wil/per), at 20m total SP you stop gaining advantage from higher charisma and start losing. That point comes sooner if either of the dominant attributes is willpower because it also contributes to leadership skills. Roughly, it would seem you need over 35-40% of your skills to be charisma primary for it to be worth it to have high starting charisma. ---
Cygnus Zhada Amarr The Wild Hunt Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.21 11:55:00 - [53] Originally by: Ruah Piskonit I am personally too attatched to my character(s) to sell and would feel like I had somehow bought something that would never be mine if I did ever buy a character - which I never will. And yes, it is not logical or realistic to think this. . . Ultimatly, I agree with Verone. Character sales are not healthy, neither is GTC selling for ISK by players - just throws everything out the window in my book. QFT, not that my chars are worth a damn, but still BUYING chars would feel odd too. Welcome to EVE Online: Press 1 for Caldari, PVE Online Press 2 for Minmatar, PVP Online Press 3 for Gallente, PWN Online Press 4 for Amarr, Lulz Online
Thicky McThick	Posted - 2007.11.21 11:59:00 - [54] Edited by: Thicky McThick on 21/11/2007 11:59:40 An absolute must is to check the name and never get one that sounds stupid. Post with your Alt and not your Main, 'cos I don't care about your Name.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.21 14:01:00 - [55] Originally by: Thicky McThick Edited by: Thicky McThick on 21/11/2007 11:59:40 An absolute must is to check the name and never get one that sounds stupid. Nailed it right there. Its great to see internet bring out both the worst and best in people. Sig removed for the third time, inappropriate content. Sig Locked. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
The Lobster Amarr The Last Horizon Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.21 15:23:00 - [56] Personally I would love to own a character called "Scotty, The Docking Manager" or something close (maybe "ScottyTheDockingMan"). Being called primary all the time would be worth the comedy value...
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.11.21 16:39:00 - [57] Originally by: The Lobster Personally I would love to own a character called "Scotty, The Docking Manager" or something close (maybe "ScottyTheDockingMan"). Being called primary all the time would be worth the comedy value... you're The Lobster, hook up with some woman gamers on a PvP date and you'll always be primary. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Major Stallion Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.21 18:48:00 - [58] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Like my toon. Brand-name and specialization. :) Too expensive to be honest ;s no one is stupid enough to pay what youd ask for....especially not for a char thats been e-bay'd and had its value depreciated by a moron. ________________________________ Originally by: CCP Nozh As soon as people start comparing EVE to real life or battlestar galactica I stop reading.
Skyy Caldari The Knights Templar Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.21 19:41:00 - [59] What would I go for? My name rocks! But maybe the 60mil+ skill points could rake a buck or two.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.21 19:44:00 - [60] o rly, major stallion? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.

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