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Dizeezer Velar Caldari Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:18:00 - [1] I'm interested in skilling up one of the two to it's fullest potential. Will be used for gatecamps mostly or small scale gang or solo pvp. Which one is better at the above tasks and why? Cheers.
Sconitta Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:21:00 - [2] neutronthron --------
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:23:00 - [3] I would say geddon for small scale gangs,thron for solo....However the thron can do both,i wouldnt ever take a geddon out solo unless im clutching a station for dear life.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Dizeezer Velar I'm interested in skilling up one of the two to it's fullest potential. Will be used for gatecamps mostly or small scale gang or solo pvp. Which one is better at the above tasks and why? Cheers. If you have friends and are camping a gate, hmmm tough one. geddon is pretty good at that. For smallgang solo pvp mega, because of more mids.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:49:00 - [5] I'll take a Geddon over a Mega anyday
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:57:00 - [6] Geddon can start firing sooner without having to move. Mega can fit more/better tackling gear. Geddon for gang, Mega for solo (gate camping).
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:01:00 - [7] I would go with Blasterthron but to be honest, Gallentean ships are pretty good at gate camping. Look at Mega and Domi. In my humble opinion they are a gate camping race. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:02:00 - [8] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 19/11/2007 23:01:56 1v1 (similiar skills) mega eats geddon solo mega eats everything/can run away if needed/can mount mwd,web,scram,inject (needed for solo work) geddon has lots of problems in solo setup (lack of MWD will get you killed, lack of web will get you killed, lack of injector... guess ^^). Its way better gang ship tho than mega (easy to deal damage up from 0 to 55km thx to scorch). Tbh id go with mega if i were you. Gatecamps = sub 20km range = null works wonders. And you can solo/small gang too. Geddon would work in small gang/gatecamp too but when it comes to solo? nah.
ShadowlordUK	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:10:00 - [9] Gatecamps... Mega is better Smale scale Gang.... Mega is better Solo Pvp.... dont even think about it in a geddon. But in any case.. Mega is better. Apart from cost the Mega is better in any situation you can think of.
kessah Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:19:00 - [10] Squese as much dmg as you absoulutly can out of the geddon, dual sensor boosters and wd - plates and just hope there not fitting neut's but tbh your gun it so much 1200 dps easy with max skills with its super fast lock it reminds me of the old days with it ahhh. I love the geddon, megas are kinda boring- most people fly em and tbh there not 'that' amazing. Amarr powa! ------ [Video] Forever Pirate 4
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:31:00 - [11] Mega, easy. D-F-C is recruiting
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.20 00:12:00 - [12] Small gangs and gatecamping = geddon cause of its supprior range, its a pain to mwd to every single target that jumps a gate. For solo i would go for the mega all the time
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.11.20 00:16:00 - [13] gangs geddon solo mega (or also geddon if you have balls of steel)
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services The Acquisition	Posted - 2007.11.20 00:23:00 - [14] Past a gang of about 5, I'd take a geddon. Anything beneath that and it's the megathron. It's just an issue of range vs mobility.
Levin Cavil Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.11.20 00:28:00 - [15] Geddon without doubt. Similar dps but much greater rang than the mega plus it's cheaper and easier to fit. ----------
Ex0101 Gallente Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2007.11.20 00:39:00 - [16] Mega everytime for me --
Yoko Lee	Posted - 2007.11.20 00:52:00 - [17] Geddon for gang just fabulous with 7 Mega pulse II + 3 heat sink II + 5 heavy drone II but for solo megathron is a really good ship
Praxis1452 The Bastards	Posted - 2007.11.20 01:06:00 - [18] hmm why not hyperion? Tanks better, still does decent damage, and around the same speed. Just wondering ôHe who must expend his life to prolong life cannot enjoy it, and he who is still seeking for his life does not have it and can as little enjoy it.ö
Allestin Villimar Dark Nova Crisis	Posted - 2007.11.20 01:32:00 - [19] They both work excellently. A corp mate of mine flies the hype and an old alliance guy uses the geddon (sometimes he'd swap out for an abbadon), and I wouldn't want to have to fight either of them without more than 3 people. I think the hype is better for raw DPS, but the geddon can fit reasonable DPS and a good tank. I'd stick with whichever one you have already skilled up more. ...in bed.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.20 01:46:00 - [20] Edited by: Deschenus Maximus on 20/11/2007 01:45:56 Originally by: Levin Cavil Geddon without doubt. Similar dps but much greater rang than the mega plus it's cheaper and easier to fit. lol? D-F-C is recruiting
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.20 02:21:00 - [21] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Edited by: Deschenus Maximus on 20/11/2007 01:45:56 Originally by: Levin Cavil Geddon without doubt. Similar dps but much greater rang than the mega plus it's cheaper and easier to fit. lol? Geddon got a CPU boost recently, its now quite easy to fit imho, altho i dont use t2 mega pulse.
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.11.20 03:58:00 - [22] still a tight fit for some setups, especially those with eanm's
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.20 05:58:00 - [23] Originally by: Shardrael still a tight fit for some setups, especially those with eanm's or if you try to fit mandatory on roaming ops MWD.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.20 06:07:00 - [24] Even with the CPU boost, the Mega is still easier to fit. D-F-C is recruiting
Naviset	Posted - 2007.11.20 06:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I would go with Blasterthron but to be honest, Gallentean ships are pretty good at gate camping. Look at Mega and Domi. In my humble opinion they are a gate camping race. How is the drone race the gatecamping race? >.< If we're talking lowsec your drones are gone in a matter of moments, they're also somewhat slow and bulky, and drones take time to reach the target, which is typically too late to matter too much. I'd say minmatar / Amarr are the better campers.
Hamatitio Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.20 07:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Naviset Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I would go with Blasterthron but to be honest, Gallentean ships are pretty good at gate camping. Look at Mega and Domi. In my humble opinion they are a gate camping race. How is the drone race the gatecamping race? >.< If we're talking lowsec your drones are gone in a matter of moments, they're also somewhat slow and bulky, and drones take time to reach the target, which is typically too late to matter too much. I'd say minmatar / Amarr are the better campers. where is my l2p owl Hijack this
Riho Pastry Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.20 09:11:00 - [27] id take geddon over mega in small gangs and gate camps... i dont liek to be in a mega in small gangs.. only mediums close range bs gangs (10+ bs)
Bellicose Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.11.20 10:29:00 - [28] take whatever your trained for both ships have ups and downs geddon is more versile with ranges and cheaper but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps and looks far better and one the drone part both ships can atm use same amount of drones so thats not a issue Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Who needs a showel when you have a nice big cannon?
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.20 10:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 19/11/2007 23:01:56 1v1 (similiar skills) mega eats geddon solo mega eats everything/can run away if needed/can mount mwd,web,scram,inject (needed for solo work) geddon has lots of problems in solo setup (lack of MWD will get you killed, lack of web will get you killed, lack of injector... guess ^^). Its way better gang ship tho than mega (easy to deal damage up from 0 to 55km thx to scorch). Tbh id go with mega if i were you. Gatecamps = sub 20km range = null works wonders. And you can solo/small gang too. Geddon would work in small gang/gatecamp too but when it comes to solo? nah. Solo megathron cannot "eat or run" from anything. Tempest and Typhoon can defeat it using superior speed and barrage to dictate range, but need to be skilled minmatar pilot. Gets easier if the mega pilot is overconfident and follow the tempest or typhoon far from the gate. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Cown Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 10:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Bellicose take whatever your trained for both ships have ups and downs geddon is more versile with ranges and cheaper but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps and looks far better and one the drone part both ships can atm use same amount of drones so thats not a issue I did say the dmg between geddon and mega is ~ same... Proof or stfu:
Bentula	Posted - 2007.11.20 11:10:00 - [31] Im a gallente pilot who trained amarr due to their superiority in small/med gangs. As a gallente your always stuck between sucky range(blasters) or sucky damage and tracking(rails). Also null around 20km doesnt work remotly as well as people here seem to think, yes you still do ok damage, but more than a geddon using pulses? Not really. Killer feature of amarr imho is the fast ammo switching though, if you have null loaded on a mega its hardly worth it to switch ammo even if you got close. You really spend a lot of time mwding around in a mega and are usually the poor sod that looses not only ship but also pod due to bubbles. So for below 5 people mega or geddon doesnt matter much, though a 2nd geddon is better than a 4th mega imho, diversity is it what protects you from people fitting to exactly counter your gang. Above 5 people neither the extra tackle nor damage justify using a mega over a geddon due to traveltime to target, higher costs and lower survivability(closer usually means taking more damage). Also geddon in gangs(not fleets) works decently with t1 guns, making it a decent ship to fit with named stuff from loothangar .
Bellicose Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.11.20 11:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Cown Originally by: Bellicose take whatever your trained for both ships have ups and downs geddon is more versile with ranges and cheaper but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps and looks far better and one the drone part both ships can atm use same amount of drones so thats not a issue I did say the dmg between geddon and mega is ~ same... Proof or stfu: Quote: but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps wasent a personal attack so whats up with the attitude ? Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Who needs a showel when you have a nice big cannon?
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.20 11:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Even with the CPU boost, the Mega is still easier to fit. makes me wonder what mods are needed on amarr ships then since i have to use faction modules to fit my mega
Cown Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 11:48:00 - [34] Originally by: Bellicose Originally by: Cown Originally by: Bellicose take whatever your trained for both ships have ups and downs geddon is more versile with ranges and cheaper but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps and looks far better and one the drone part both ships can atm use same amount of drones so thats not a issue I did say the dmg between geddon and mega is ~ same... Proof or stfu: Quote: but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps wasent a personal attack so whats up with the attitude ? Well wasn't meant as any attack.
Szaman Viziam	Posted - 2007.11.20 12:51:00 - [35] Geddon > Mega
Eiskalt Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2007.11.20 13:49:00 - [36] Don¦t forget, that you have implants with your character Cown. ;) Mega DOES more Damage (at optimal etc). But Geddon is of more use at 10+ km of course. Check the stats of those ships with the "All lvl5" char. I still prefer a Geddon though (not solo). I love the range of pulse lasers and the instant-switching of crystals. For solo, non remote repping etc you can use a Abaddon instead btw. No amount of balancing can fix playing like a moron!
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.11.20 14:26:00 - [37] gankageddon doesnt exist anymore.. not for along while.. it died after ccp nerfed the low item stacking ->My Vids<-
Alowishus Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 15:04:00 - [38] It's personal preference. The way people weigh ships in Eve against each other is silly. Almost every time I have died in Eve in a BS I was outnumbered and got ganked. Mega vs. 10x hostiles gets the same results as Arma vs. 10x hostiles. In a gang where you don't have to worry about tackling, in either ship your job would be DPS, and at a comprehensive gate camp a +/- 200 DPS on a >1000 DPS ship is near meaningless, as well as an extra mid on a ship that has no EW bonus. My preference is toward the Geddon due to cost. I see them go for 50 mil. That's not much more than a Tier 2 BC.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.20 15:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Cown Originally by: Bellicose take whatever your trained for both ships have ups and downs geddon is more versile with ranges and cheaper but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps and looks far better and one the drone part both ships can atm use same amount of drones so thats not a issue I did say the dmg between geddon and mega is ~ same... Proof or stfu: Not that i disbelief, but you should have used same chars on both. Clearly the implants are not the same, seeing as your char used in the Armageddon exaple has slaves If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Djerin Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.20 20:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Cown Originally by: Bellicose take whatever your trained for both ships have ups and downs geddon is more versile with ranges and cheaper but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps and looks far better and one the drone part both ships can atm use same amount of drones so thats not a issue I did say the dmg between geddon and mega is ~ same... Proof or stfu: http://mooo.dk/dmg-setup.JPG http://mooo.dk/dmg-setup2.JPG Not that i disbelief, but you should have used same chars on both. Clearly the implants are not the same, seeing as your char used in the Armageddon exaple has slaves Not to mention those fittings suck, both of them. While that Geddon might work at the gate inside a large bubble the Mega he got there is complete fail. You really wont like to use a Mega without MWD. Especially a Blastermega needs to close in, because no other battleship has such short optimal range. This will not work with afterburner and those plates and trimarks aren't much of a help too. As for the Geddon working inside a bubble, it would be better off with sensorboosters. Thing is most stuff will run from you if you dont get a lock fast. No need for scram inside a bubble, and the web is useless too, because noone will come to webrange and without MWD you wont get there too. Anyways, solo a Geddon ain't very good because it just lacks mid slots. But in small gangs where other pilots can do what a Geddon can't it's actually a nice ship. It has a few advantages over the Mega: it doesn't need to reload if using t1 ammo, yet if you have to reload you dont have to wait 10 seconds; it has a significantly larger area of effect; it has a similar gank potential but is way cheaper. So if you don't plan on going solo it actually depends on which damagetypes/weapon you prefer personally. ---- Sarmaul's crosstrainorgtfo
Cown Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 20:08:00 - [41] Originally by: Djerin Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Cown Originally by: Bellicose take whatever your trained for both ships have ups and downs geddon is more versile with ranges and cheaper but mega got 1 more midslot and potential more dps and looks far better and one the drone part both ships can atm use same amount of drones so thats not a issue I did say the dmg between geddon and mega is ~ same... Proof or stfu: http://mooo.dk/dmg-setup.JPG http://mooo.dk/dmg-setup2.JPG Not that i disbelief, but you should have used same chars on both. Clearly the implants are not the same, seeing as your char used in the Armageddon exaple has slaves Not to mention those fittings suck, both of them. While that Geddon might work at the gate inside a large bubble the Mega he got there is complete fail. You really wont like to use a Mega without MWD. Especially a Blastermega needs to close in, because no other battleship has such short optimal range. This will not work with afterburner and those plates and trimarks aren't much of a help too. As for the Geddon working inside a bubble, it would be better off with sensorboosters. Thing is most stuff will run from you if you dont get a lock fast. No need for scram inside a bubble, and the web is useless too, because noone will come to webrange and without MWD you wont get there too. Anyways, solo a Geddon ain't very good because it just lacks mid slots. But in small gangs where other pilots can do what a Geddon can't it's actually a nice ship. It has a few advantages over the Mega: it doesn't need to reload if using t1 ammo, yet if you have to reload you dont have to wait 10 seconds; it has a significantly larger area of effect; it has a similar gank potential but is way cheaper. So if you don't plan on going solo it actually depends on which damagetypes/weapon you prefer personally. I only fly amarr..
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:45:00 - [42] nerf amarr

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