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GeoNoSiS
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Posted - 2004.03.05 12:18:00 -
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Did they change it??? Cause just now i got spanked at a range i have always been at -----------------------------------------------
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lickspittle
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Posted - 2004.03.05 12:25:00 -
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The stargate/station sentry gun ranges were increased to 150km I believe. -- Richard CCP Programmer. Anything said above is not the official line, but my own take or opinion. |

LukAsh
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Posted - 2004.03.05 12:37:00 -
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Ok, so if they are now at 150KM, did you also make NPC convoys go futher away from stations? Couse as it seems the only source of many goods are convoys, and to some extent agent missions.
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GeoNoSiS
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Posted - 2004.03.05 12:41:00 -
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ofmg now you completely wrecked pirating.... -----------------------------------------------
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2004.03.05 12:58:00 -
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Where was the warning???
I just nearly lost my BS while gankin a gate.
150km is just ridicilous.
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El Paco
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:05:00 -
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Again ccp ****s over all pirates. If you dont want any pirates in this game tell us so now so we can quit before we waste any more of our money |

Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:10:00 -
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They want it out of empire. And they want corp wars in empire.
Im sure they will make more need for non pirates to move out of empire soon(tm)
-- Lady Beeblebrox
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Tek Na'Shakk
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:11:00 -
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Quote: The stargate/station sentry gun ranges were increased to 150km I believe.
This is not fair. First the JIP-camping was removed and now this. You have removed the livelihood of all pirates, it's like removing the roids for miners.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:12:00 -
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Where is the piracy in indiscriminately ganking everything that appears at a gate?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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GeoNoSiS
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:12:00 -
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very smooth alerting us about this.... Many mates of mine are considdering cancelling the account they have -----------------------------------------------
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GeoNoSiS
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:14:00 -
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Quote: indiscriminately ganking
they get warning lights around us  -----------------------------------------------
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Konstas
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:36:00 -
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Why the hell is it not in the patch notes? Was it even on Chaos?
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Martinus Crimson
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Martinus Crimson on 05/03/2004 13:41:39 Edited by: Martinus Crimson on 05/03/2004 13:40:14
Quote: ofmg now you completely wrecked pirating....
Noo they completely ruined pirating for the exploiting carebears. Move your ass to 0.0 space and come pirate there. But you prolly won't cause even without sentry's, you'll be ganked withing a couple of hours cause ppl can actually SHOOT BACK. So stop whining and become a real pirate.
Note : This was only a flame to the pirates that find it funny to sit in empire space outside sentry range shooting ppl that pass by. There are MORE then enough pirates who actually do get the game, and work hard for thier money -----------------------
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.03.05 13:38:00 -
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Sentry Gun : 55km Sentry Gun II : 80km Sentry Gun III : 110km
That's the ranges I know of, unless they changed it or my memory fails me.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:13:00 -
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These threads are probably also related to this:
NPC are broken
Distances all screwed up.
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Phantom II
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Phantom II on 05/03/2004 14:16:32 ffs put this kind of stuff in patch notes!!! Whats wrong with you guys? We are paying for this game.
SIGH
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zincol
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:22:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Phantom II on 05/03/2004 14:16:32 ffs put this kind of stuff in patch notes!!! Whats wrong with you guys? We are paying for this game.
SIGH
True.
So how does a pirate,Pirate now a days? not many miners in 0.4's and pirates got most kills from gates?!
w00t!
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Ruffles
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:25:00 -
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Hunt for them, don't just be sitting around gates waiting for them to come to you. Yes sadly it will most likely be miners you end up ganking in belts, but hunting is a little more active at least. 
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:26:00 -
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It would seem CCP wants 0.1 - 0.4 to be carebear land. This is a total screwup.
Maybe CCP just wants all the old players and pirates to sod off so they can focus on getting the $$$ from new players..
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Busko Moonwalker
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:29:00 -
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yea a damn *PIP*. This should have been in notes. All changes like that. This is a big loss of kudos for CCP.   
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zincol
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: zincol on 05/03/2004 14:32:18
Quote: Hunt for them, don't just be sitting around gates waiting for them to come to you. Yes sadly it will most likely be miners you end up ganking in belts, but hunting is a little more active at least. 
Sorry to burst ure bubble but there really isnt many players in 0.4 systems and when they see u they can just fly to a gate,station or a safe point.....even faster by loggin off and lettin the auto thing fly u to a safe spot.
Think this is so pilots can fly round AFK.
w00t!
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Eduard
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:39:00 -
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Guys you have certain attitude problem. You want easy kills? OK so go and play Quake, Enemy Territory, Counter Strike or Unreal Tournament. This game shouldn't allow any static camping or mass killing players.
Simply it can't be this case. Pirates are reason for sentry guns and beefed concord. It wasn't like that, but honestly mass killing of people who doesn't will to try PvP (BS versus industrial) how you like it.
In most cases these carebear pirates when face equal power will run. This is OK because you are pirate. A bit of Role Play not offense "You behave like Pirate scum", this is fine, but don't expect that prey will not whine. It's like in real life prey will whine ever, because it's prey. This is why law and army was build up for.
Not all people in country are warriors or criminals. So don't bash masses and no one will punish you, heh. Calm down all these changes were done because you want so much blood on innocent people. May be it's time for trying a bit PvP Pirate vs Pirate. I never did saw it but your pirating nature would go that way!
Lowest acts of Pirating I saw when 5 Pirates start arguing who will hunt lonely miner in system. LOL! Truly you should ask if this is what most of customers who pay monthly really want? CCP have good sense of where it would lead it if they will not calm all these teenagers down and push them away from these casual players.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.03.05 14:52:00 -
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Mining requires greater skill than Sentry Gate Camping.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:01:00 -
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When will the damn NPC's get punished for shooting at people at gates.
Why does nobody complain about the NPC's? The behaviour pattern is identical to most PC pirates.
Yet they are allowed to get away with it, which is odd, seeing as the pirate factions at gates are the sworn enemies of the gate owners, whereas I have a positive standing with the gate owners. It'll give people something to watch on their travels, too. .
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 05/03/2004 15:12:35 not informing of change = bad, VERY bad
oh boo hoo, quit being such carebears and learn how to pirate properly
gate ganking is NOT pirating, its just ganking for the sake of loot, and when friendlies come to break it up, the rat usually gets away cuz its so easy to set up a camp point where they land many km away from you no matter where they warp in
if you can't handle the sentries go look for people in the belts
if you got a big enough team, just tank out the sentry gun fire _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:11:00 -
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Quote: When will the damn NPC's get punished for shooting at people at gates.
Why does nobody complain about the NPC's? The behaviour pattern is identical to most PC pirates.
Yet they are allowed to get away with it, which is odd, seeing as the pirate factions at gates are the sworn enemies of the gate owners, whereas I have a positive standing with the gate owners. It'll give people something to watch on their travels, too.
heh, i haven't seen a gate rat since castor hit, where are you flying anyways  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:11:00 -
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Quote: Guys you have certain attitude problem. You want easy kills? OK so go and play Quake, Enemy Territory, Counter Strike or Unreal Tournament. This game shouldn't allow any static camping or mass killing players.
Simply it can't be this case. Pirates are reason for sentry guns and beefed concord. It wasn't like that, but honestly mass killing of people who doesn't will to try PvP (BS versus industrial) how you like it.
In most cases these carebear pirates when face equal power will run. This is OK because you are pirate. A bit of Role Play not offense "You behave like Pirate scum", this is fine, but don't expect that prey will not whine. It's like in real life prey will whine ever, because it's prey. This is why law and army was build up for.
Not all people in country are warriors or criminals. So don't bash masses and no one will punish you, heh. Calm down all these changes were done because you want so much blood on innocent people. May be it's time for trying a bit PvP Pirate vs Pirate. I never did saw it but your pirating nature would go that way!
Lowest acts of Pirating I saw when 5 Pirates start arguing who will hunt lonely miner in system. LOL! Truly you should ask if this is what most of customers who pay monthly really want? CCP have good sense of where it would lead it if they will not calm all these teenagers down and push them away from these casual players.
Well, actually changing the range is fine , but for gods sake they have to warn people. Just imagine all the Pirates(and pirate hunters camping gates and waiting for pirates for that matter) that will get toasted by sentries tonight because of complete and utter lack of information from the EVE crew.
As i said before, CCP doing changes is fine, doing critical game changes that will result in massive losses of ships with out even a topic on the forums, patch note whatever to inform the players is a slap in the face to all Eve players.
Come on CCP, how many have allready petitioned for shiplosses today because of this?  ------------------------------------------------
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:20:00 -
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Congratulations!
You have just finished making this 'game' a complete waste of time and effort by removing the last tiniest piece of acceptable risk.
Non-empire space is completely unnecessary to get ahead if a person plays a smart game and will always be completely unnecessary to get ahead if a person plays a smart game. And you've escalated the risk in Empire space to blockades at gates being made up of numbers few people have a hope against. Good job. 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

01100110011
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:29:00 -
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Quote: The stargate/station sentry gun ranges were increased to 150km I believe.
This severly sucks now all pirates have to stick to 0.0 ? .. well sure lets just make this game one big carebear festival hey i have an idea !! change all system sec stat to 1.0 all but the lower regions so the carebears can mine in peace everywhere ... think about what you are doing CCP youre making the game easier for the carebears sure ... what about the others? |

Tease
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Posted - 2004.03.05 15:30:00 -
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what a bunch of crybabys..
I don't seem to have a problem finding people to fight in 0.4-0.0 space at places other than the Gates.
----------------------------------------- [2003.12.17 06:35:20] Corwin > Orvolle is .4? Doesn't that mean that it's less than .5 ? and isn't .5 what starts the danger level? [2003.12.30 07:15:50] Corwin > Tech 2, IE expanded cargo holds I, MIning lasers 2, etc.... TL2 is being released all around you [2003.12.30 07:21:20] Corwin > tech 2 is released to players. Some players are busy researching the BPs before building stuff. Others are sitting on the BPs making copies to make money off of them that way |
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